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I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?
I use PIMbackup. It will restore the SMS and you can choose the threads options subsequently.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pim-backup-v2-8.html
i tried using PIMBackup before, but i don't remember seeing a threading messages option. how do you do this?
Isn't the 30fps video a hardware issue??
Bennieficial said:
I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?
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I couldn't agree more. I dont see why a company as huge as Microsoft cant incorporate this into WMDC/ActiveSync. It is one thing I really miss about my Blackberry.
PIMBackup works perfect even with threaded messages I checked that few times and it's works fine
but how do i restore all messages as threads with PIMBackup? cuz from what I remember, it was restoring them as individual messages, making my phone move very sluggishly, so i stopped the restoration process. If I let it finish, will all the messages be threaded or something?
when you use PIMBackup, it will backup the way it was and restore them the way it was. There is no option to choose threaded or not, it just backs it up threaded or non-threaded.
So yea, PIMBackup is the way to go!
The X1 got sluggish because it was doing something intensive. Let it finish before you make your mind up that it doesn't do what you think it should.
It's a superb piece of software, very well written and does exactly what it says on the tin. It backs up and restores all of your PIM.
Messages restored will be threaded.
After restore phone is threading restored messages so it's need a bit of resources.
Go into messaging->sms and watch, threads will showing in real time and on the bottom bar it'll showing which messages are processing now
All of my text messages are very very important and personal to me. I carefully saved every single of them into my email and computer so I won't lost a "single" of them. That is the reason why I went for android platform because there is an application (My Backup Pro) that helps me to back up all the important texts I have with my family and my wife. The disaster struck when i upgraded my android phone to the Nexus One from the G1. The new message app in the nexus one has a "Delete old messages" option on the default which I completely acknowledged nothing about it thus I did not disable that option, so it started to delete all my messages when they reached to the certain amount number of text messages. When i noticed i was in a big shocked stage, I am extremely unhappy. I called Tmobile to see if they can send me a copy of all the contents of the texts that were deleted, they offered no help for that sort of request neither Nexus One Customer Support Department can do anything about it. To my knowledge, when a data is being "deleted", it's not really gone forever instead it is being compressed to a smaller value for saving space purpose or it's lying somewhere inside the flash memory and waiting for the new data to overwrite it. I did spend weeks of research and calling for help but I could not find any help. If any developer or anyone could help me to recover the deleted text messages in my Nexus One, I would be really happy and greatly appreciate your help. I will pay you a big reward, the reward is your choice. Anything you want. Thank you very very much for your help. My phone is not rooted yet and I haven't done the hard reset. So I guess the data is still in the flash memory, we just need to get them out.
So you went for android platform because of My Backup Pro but you didn't make any backup with it before upgrading to the N1?
Anyway.. I don't think deleted SMS messages will be recoverable... sorry
I've never seen anyone even want to accomplish this goal.. or cared about their texts in such way..
I dont know for sure, but I would assume this is something you wont be able to do.. hope you find a way I guess.
unfortunately the messages do not get saved on the sd card but rather on the phone. There does exist software that recovers lost data from Hard drives, sd cards, etc. But the messages were deleted from the phone itself and its hard to say this but you wont be able to recover it! just remember to always backup for next time and make sure you get rid of the "delete all messages" and dont forget that after a large number of text, they seem to all get deleted at once even if you dont have that option selected. it has happened to me after about 4000 texts! and not once but three times already. thats why i always backup and if i ever lose any text it will be under 100's. and also remeber to backup the backups of Backup Pro, LOL! Sd cards die as well, so you never know! so try saving a copy to your pc and by the way if your text are that imprtant then remeber that hard drives from PC'S die as well and you never know either, so backup as well and Remeber lol that you can burn it onto a cd every once in a while!
Good Luck
Yeah I hate to say you are s.o.l. with the old messages. all you can do is look how to prevent this in the future. 1. use Google voice or 2. download the sms2email app
I delete my text messages on a daily basis. I just have no use for them after I read them once. This seems important to you, so I do hope you find a way of recovering them. Good luck!
wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
melterx12 said:
wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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Naughty ones.
If you have the data backed up with mybackup pro, u can inspect the files in: /sdcard/rerware/MyBackup/
Followed by whatever name u gave em. you can restore it from there too. i think they're stored in sqlite3 but, i tried restoring some data i had backed up to sqlite3 and it couldn't re-create the db cuz it was kinda encrypted.
hope that helps. maybe u could try emailing the dev of MyBackup Pro?
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If you backup your msgs into email, why did you not use "SMS Backup" (by Christopher Studer) instead or a similar tool which does real-time backup? It adds your message proactively into gmail under a certain label. That is time saved for you.
Also, as others have pointed out, you can not recover your messages, unless you had an auto-backup of that saved to your SD card. In that case, even if your SD card was wiped or formatted, you could essentially perform a recovery using a disk recovery application.
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
phuthanvinh said:
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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T-Mobile cannot send you the contents of the text messages, they do not open up and read your texts, nor do they save that burst of data, that would be an insane amount of data to save, as well probably an illegal invasion of privacy.
phuthanvinh said:
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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Yeah, Tmobile is of no help! They cannot look at your text messages as they will be violating your rights! neither would they backup something that they have no use for!
You should really look into Google Voice or something similar in the future. That way all of your text messages are available online at all times - like email. Very, very useful.
I have been saved so many times by that service.
texts are saved i think for a certain amount of time on servers. Look at the Kwame Kilpatrick case in Detroit for example. In order to get them though you would need a search warrant to gain access to those files.
Tmobile say they would but only if the police or law enforcement involve in order for them to pull out the contents, in this case i dont know what to do. The only way get the contents back is to access to my wife iphone but the problem is her iphone also has the auto delete old sms. I did lots of researches on recovering the deleted sms on iphone and there are a few methods but im not certain because im not a tech savvy. So i have her iphone in hand and it has not been synced for months. Is there a possiblility to recover the conversations i had with her that are also had been deleted in her iphone? The reason i want get those conversations back because they involve in our large business deals. Please help.
Hey, I have PM'd you some info to help you retrieve txt msgs of an
iphone...
hope it works...
I also archive every text message. To make sure that I won't lose them, I backup them on WaveSecure (free for Android until March 31!!) and SMS Backup & Restore app. Both of them can be found on the Market. WaveSecure is an anti-theft app that also backups SMS, call logs, and files on their servers. SMS Backup & Restore (and Call Logs Backups & Restore by the same developer) saves an XML file to your SD card. You can easily email the XML to yourself.
If you were using GOOGLE VOICE on your GOOGLE Android phone there would be no issue.
aad4321 said:
its ok, i lost my sextmessages one time too
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WHOA!!!
hahahhaa, i lost a few also while trying different ROMs, but we don't go admitting to them! hahahaa.
I sincerely hope that the original poster, phuthanvinh, can find a solution for this with T-Mobile.
It seems pretty lame that they would offer to fix this IF law enforcement was involved.
Hello fellow Blade lovers. My apologies if this topic has already been posted in the Blade section... I did a few keyword searches to check first, but didn't find anything, so thought I might make a post just in case others are having the same problem. Hopefully many of you will be loving and using KitKat for the trusty Blade brought to us by the amazing Zeelog over in Modaco.
If you are coming from another ROM you will most likely be backing up all your apps, call/text logs and other things. Whilst doing this process one of the minor problems I found was the change in permissions of how SMS messaging works in KitKat and how this affects SMS Backup/Restore apps - namely that when restoring text messages they don't re-appear. To be clear, this is nothing to do with Zeelog, this is a change to the way KitKat deals with messaging.
I cannot take any credit for this information - I did some searching on the internet and found a few different sites discussing this issue and possible solutions. All I am doing here is just highlighting the way to get it working specific to Zeelog's KitKat for Blade users when using the app SMS Backup+ by Jan Berkel. Of course, any ROM that has the 'App Ops' functionality will be able to employ this same fix. The theory would suggest that it would work for other similar SMS backup apps as well, but I have only tested it with this app. In brief (and from what I can make out), it relates to a change in KitKat where only the default designated SMS application has permissions to write to the SMS database.
In order to get it working, you need 'App Ops' - which Zeelog's KitKat has. So here is what you do after installing SMS Backup+ but before you use it to restore your text messages:
Go into Settings>Privacy
Go into the first option Privacy Guard
Press the MENU button (or select the 3 square dots top right on the screen) and select Advanced
Scroll to the right twice so you get to the MESSAGING section
Scroll down until you find SMS Backup+ and then select it
Scroll down until you find the parameter Write SMS DB and you will see it is set to DENIED
Change it to ALLOWED
That's it. Now when you restore your call and text logs you will get all your text messages back. From what I can see, there is no reason why you cannot leave it set to ALLOWED. Looking at the features of SMS Backup+, you can automate backups but not automate restores, so I cannot see any reason for putting it back to DENIED. I cannot comment on any other backup/restore apps as this is my app of choice - but I guess that if you are not sure then DENY it once you have restored your logs. Hope this helps.
It just occurred to me that if you are using a ROM which doesn't have 'App Ops' available, you could always installed Xposed, then install the App Ops module.
I'm running Golden Eye on my AT&T S4 (mdl bootloader so no safestrap). I used to update regularly but been busy lately so I'm several versions behind and want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (v24 to v35). Everything goes fine with the install except for the fact that I can't seem to restore my text messages. In the past I have always been able to restore from an xml file with TiBu without any issues. Now when I open the messaging app after attempting to restore, it shows all the contacts that I've been texting with but when I select someone there's no actual texts or photos displayed. I know some people recommend against restoring call logs and texts via TiBu but I've never had an issue when upgrading v1 through v24.
Has something changed in recent updates that might affect how these files are handled or where they're stored? Anyone know of a work around or a good app that handles mms?
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.