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For GPS and compass issues, but never have seen any evidence. .. anyone got a link, I'd just like to see it with my own eyes instead of speculating. ... thanks
Didn't think there was a statement directly from them.
I think you're right that there's no official statement from them. I think it's just what people have heard from the tech support folks at Samsung (and now also from TMo).
i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
wrong thread. ignore.
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i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
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Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
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Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
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Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
I just emailed Samsung about the issue, and asked them what the time frame of it being publicly addressed and fixed would be. I suggest everyone having issues do the same. I have not heard back yet, but will post their response when I do.
I also just got off the phone with T-Mobile tech support. They said they will not swap the phone out for the GPS issue, as it's a known issue and a different unit will not make a difference. They also had me do the keypad fix, (*#*#ect.) and it didn't give me any different results from the last time I tried it, other than the loss of signal I had last time.
I asked what Samsung has said to them about the issue and her response was there is no timeframe on when this will be fixed, but Samsung is aware for of the issue and are working on it.
Basically the same stuff everyone else is saying. 6 days left for me before I return the phone. I hope something happens soon.
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Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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On the contrare. . Try homering battle 3g. There you will see... after that you will no what I mean and every game using the accelerometer takes a split second to really orientate......
It is flawed. ..
Or try hyperspace again and pay attention... then close it and download android sensor data... open that app, now go back to the game and notice how Mich faster it moves and how Mich more it responds... another game is speedx 3d... so hard to control then open android sensor data and its smooth as butter...
Please check again, it works sometimes like the first time then after that you will notice slow response. ..
beren28 said:
Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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Try papijump..... notice how when you tilt it takes a second for the dude to respond to ya movement. .. then close it completely, open android sensor data and try again, its a lot smoother...... like the app calibrates the sensors or something...
We need more people to see this issue as not many people know about it... but I play games using accelerometer and notice its not right until that apps started first.
Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
eta: I have always sucked at these types of games on the wii or other phones, but I am doing quite well (comparatively) on the vibrant.
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Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
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OK have you tried homerun battle 3d? If you don't have it ill pm you... I need you to see this..... I know its there....
Downloading the lite version now.
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Downloading the lite version now.
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Cool. That should work... it may be smooth on try 1. But exit completely and try again, the shadow on the bat chops around and its supposed to be smooth.... then once choppy try that app again...
Thanks for testing this.. I've read others have same issue just no one really can see. This game should do it though...
I pmed you also..
Edit: if ya already opened that sensor app it wont play bad....
Must reset phone, don't run app, then try game, then when ****ty open app it'll fix everygame... but since ya opened it it will run smooth... must reset.
After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
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After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
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Its not major, just a slight stutter which in really meticulous games like asphalt 5 speeding around corners it will effect you...
But run that app after reset, even close it, for some reason now the sensor is flawless. Lime the app calibrates it somehow......
I was cool on all bugs till this, cause I'm a gamer, but luckily someone found that app in another thread, makes it flawless....
Its like first time ever playing the app, it plays fine, but then next time its wack... really strange. I can't believe no one else noticed on games like those, I notice the slightest weirdness.
Anyone notice the compass as well as other sensors respond SUPER SLOW. Fire up skymaps and find mars. Go on ill wait... Broken GPS is getting all the talk.
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There's an app called "Android Sensor Data" that can calibrate the accelerometer, but you have to run it at every boot. It doesn't fix the compass, which I expect us just broken.
The future looks so... Vibrant
Yup, it was one of the first things I noticed about the phone. The compas is definitely either broken or just not very good.
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Its not only sky maps but also layer as well, once you stop moving the phone it takes a good 10 to 15 secs to position itself, very laggy, just patiently waiting for the fix now -_-"
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one would think with Samsung preinstalling Layar on the phone the compass would work without a hitch... im hoping its a software issue not updating as frequent.
Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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I asked T-mobile if there would be a fix for the compass along with the GPS on Twitter. This was their reply:
"TMobile_USA: @fjohnette That's what is believed causing the GPS problem so its possible we will keep you updated. ^SG"
--http://www.twitter.com/TMobile_USA/status/20225466968
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"TMobile_USA: @fjohnette That's what is believed causing the GPS problem so its possible we will keep you updated. ^SG"
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So this means it's possible that they will NOT keep you updated??
Anyway, I think we now have the word of every t-mobile CS rep and tech support person and most (if not all) don't really have any idea. I guess it's worth the effort to keep pestering. It'd sure be more comforting to have an official response.
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Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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You are completely correct in how a compass works... Basic magnetism... However. Just because our compass doesn't work doesn't mean the magnet bit isn't detecting north as it should. It could easily be that the other sensors that detect which way that magnet is oriented are reporting incorrect data, which is possibly fixable via firmware update. Or that the android itself is doing something wrong with that data, or any combination of the above. And these possible causes are far from exhaustive, just a few possibilities off the top of my head.
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Based on how a compass works, (magnetism) I would hazard a guess that there is NO software fix. Buy a compass. If it doesn't work, it will never work. Software can't fix a bad magnet. I COULD be wrong...I HOPE I'm wrong...I DOUBT I'm wrong.
Magnets are not software. ):
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Yep, but every single thing about how that data is collected, interpreted, and passed on to the operating system is software, not to mention the interaction with the accelerometer sensors as Arr mentioned. Lots of potential points of failure here that have everything to do with software. Fingers crossed that it's not just a borked magnetometer.
Very true. As I said, I REALLY REALLY HOPE they can fix it... I'm just worried that we're going to be stuck with broken hardware. I'll never buy a phone on launch-day again...
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Very true. As I said, I REALLY REALLY HOPE they can fix it... I'm just worried that we're going to be stuck with broken hardware. I'll never buy a phone on launch-day again...
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this is my fear as well. It bugs the **** out of me to see people all over the forums violently defending samsung and saying with absolute certainty that a firmware fix is coming.
How do they know it can be fixed with firmware? I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how the compass actually works, but to post saying that it will be fixed is so unbelievably stupid and irresponsible that I can only attribute it to buyers remorse manifesting itself as post-purchase rationalization.
Too many idiots to have any sort of productive discussion anywhere.
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this is my fear as well. It bugs the **** out of me to see people all over the forums violently defending samsung and saying with absolute certainty that a firmware fix is coming.
How do they know it can be fixed with firmware? I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how the compass actually works, but to post saying that it will be fixed is so unbelievably stupid and irresponsible that I can only attribute it to buyers remorse manifesting itself as post-purchase rationalization.
Too many idiots to have any sort of productive discussion anywhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7252169&postcount=21
The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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Agreed. The GPS issues are getting so much attention that the borked compass is falling by the wayside. I actually use the compass, so this is really annoying.
you guys are brave
I returned the phone after a few days and decided to wait for a fix.
When/if the fix comes, I can easily buy the phone again.
To keep the phone is the same thing as keeping you anxiety level high, waiting for a fix, checking every board twice a day.
Is it worth it?
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The compass is definitely the one thing that annoys me about this phone. I really like Google Sky Maps and 3D compass and right now they are worthless.
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Google Sky maps works fine for me. It does lag slightly when rotating, (which seems to match what others are saying about compass lag), but i don't see how it's worthless. It's dead on for me.
Have you tried Google Street View (Compass Mode) or Yelp's 'Monocle' / Layar?
The compass will sometimes point to magnetic North. But most times, it spins around wildly, or simply points to the wrong direction and does not update correctly.
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Google Sky maps works fine for me. It does lag slightly when rotating, (which seems to match what others are saying about compass lag), but i don't see how it's worthless. It's dead on for me.
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A friend and I bought our phones on the same day. Date on the stickers on the box (which I assume is a build date) is 7/17 on both of them. Side-by-side, Google Sky works perfectly for him, and doesn't work at all for me.
My compass points south no matter what orientation the phone is in, or what direction I face. Sometimes if I just stand still for a very long time, it'll slowly sort of drift in one direction or another, but I haven't had the patience to just wait and see whether it ever actually aligns with where I'm facing or if it's just random variation.
Check my little video on youtube about this issue demonstrating how slow the compass reacts.
YouTube, search for: SvAJrR5Gmy0
or "Samsung Vibrant Compass Issues"
still won't let me post links yet....
I did end up getting the other phone working instead of pointing in only one direction. I factory data reset the phone and tried agan and it started pointing in the correct direction at least, still very slow.
I also suggest looking at sensor data to see how your phone performs:
*#*#1472365#*#* >> Test Application >> Show Sensor data
Big thanks to all the rom devs out there working hard on the sweet froyoish goodness. I've seen a lot of work on the GPS issues that have turned it into a trustworthy device, but very little mention of the compass.
What is the consensus on this? Is it just crappy hardware that won't ever get fixed? Bad gravity? I miss my google sky!
yeah, why is the Compass so twitchy like a crackhead
I wouldn't say it's twitchy. I've never noticed mine jumping around.
I did notice it pointing the opposite direction I was traveling yesterday down the interstate in Google Maps, though.
When I turned the phone, the compass didn't move (I was in the passenger side, for those wondering ).
I think it's just bad hardware that's very susceptible to interference. I've seen it work properly every now and then, but most of the time it jumps around like crazy.
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Well, oddly enough the GPS was accurate that time, but the compass wasn't.
I think Google Maps had me about a block or two behind where I was on the Interstate, though (judging by where I was in the software when I got to curves or intersections/exits).
Bing Maps seemed more accurate, but it doesn't have a compas on the screen (or I haven't found the setting for it, don't think I've even gone into Bing Settings yet) and it lack Voice Guided Navigation on Android.
Isn't Google Maps Navigation still in Beta? Maybe something is wrong IRT the software. Last time I tried Catch Compass (which was admittedly over a month ago, before the JI6 update) it actually seemed rather accurate... It would turn as I'd turn and everything. /shrugs/ Dunno what the issue is with it.
Interesting. Some apps seem to pull heading info from the gpd, while others will attemp to use the compass sensor. Using something like tricorder shows the compass to show north regardless.
I guess it's just one of those things
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I have it on Bionix-V 1.2.1 and it is acting a bit 'squirrely' Anyone else try it yet?
All my friends are on wordfeud, I don't associate with apple users. lol
Seriously I'll go try it out, I do have a few iphone user friends still that haven't seen the light.
I'm seeing complaints about it being buggy on a bunch of different forums. Then again, what did people really expect from Zynga?
So yeah, make your iPhone friends wait until Word Feud is out for iOS
Wordfued better then wordsmith?
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Is it just my Vibrant, or is the game not sharp when zoomed out? The scored numbers are pretty blurry and not as sharp as on other phones I've seen. When I zoom in they look fine. Anyone else noticing thing?
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Is it just my Vibrant, or is the game not sharp when zoomed out? The scored numbers are pretty blurry and not as sharp as on other phones I've seen. When I zoom in they look fine. Anyone else noticing thing?
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Looks perfect here. Have you messed with your LCD density value?
not sure how i can do that...i'm running the bionix v 1.2.1 rom. do you think that could be causing a problem?
Lots of force closes.
Clunky, ugly interface.
Notifications spotty at best.
No option to disable sounds so it makes childish noises whenever you open a game or play a words.
Not a spot on Wordfeud, but I do have a lot of iphone friends.
**sigh**
So far I have played maybe 3 games to completion and during that period experienced 8 FC's (thats just really poor coding if you ask me)
The interface is "meh" the lack of a pinch to zoom really feels awkward.
Looking beyond the poor execution, at its core it is a fun game to play with friends just could use quite a bit of improvement.
I'm on Bionix-V 1.2 and WWF looks and plays pretty badly (FC's, board looks janky zoomed out, chat's slow, some games show "their move" when it's really my move, etc). However, like beren28, I have a lot of friends who are iPhone users, so I guess I'm stuck waiting for an update.
ya opiomorph, that's exactly what i'm talking about. i switched roms too, and it still looks crappy zoomed out (compared to how it looks on an htc incredible). Mine also force closes alot.
Tried app on Stock 2.2 and it works fine (i.e. no FCs here). Any problems you're experiencing might not be the apps fault. However, I uninstalled the app because it insists on showing ads "full-screen" after every turn. Anything is better than that.
Hi guys
I seem to have a problem with the gyroscope on my nexus 7. I only noticed this when playing temple run, the character always veers off to the right. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Is it a known hardware issue and should I return the device or is there a fix for this?
Thanks
I had the issue on one and I have read quite a few accounts from other people too.
I tried all kinds of things to fix it myself and nothing worked permanently.
Returned it for a new one.
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I had the issue on one and I have read quite a few accounts from other people too.
I tried all kinds of things to fix it myself and nothing worked permanently.
Returned it for a new one.
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Ok thanks, looks like I'll be returning it then. Frustrating through, this is my second nexus already and I only bought the first one 2 weeks ago. My original one had a blown speaker.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Use some other tool to determine if the accelerometer is working, NOT GAMES.
Many games do the accelerometer VERY wrong. I have one game that works on one device but not on two others, no tilt at all on one, the other it's 90 degrees off.
Install this and find out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.miian.android.sensors
It takes about 10s to detect the sensors, just leave it alone.. then tap the accelerometer one and watch the graph, turn it one direction and watch the graph, etc through the various poles. There might be other apps out there to more easily visualize it, but this one will give you very detailed information.
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Use some other tool to determine if the accelerometer is working, NOT GAMES.
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You must have lived a very sheltered life or stayed far away from any media for this to be the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard.
I don't see why to the lay person using a game that heavily makes use of the either the gyroscope or accelerometer would be ridiculous? Either way, the game worked perfectly on my first Nexus so I'm confident its not an issue with the game.
The accelerometer test in the Android Sensor Box app shows the ball falling to the right straight away when the app is opened with the device placed on a flat table. This correlates with what I have seen in Temple Run.
Using the app you recommended, well I'm not sure what it shows! Two lines stay in the middle of the of the chart whilst the blue line stays at the top of the scale (+8). No idea of this is normal or not.
I've got the same problem while playing GTA. Every other game i tried works nice. Can somebody confirm that it is a GTA specific problem?!
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Also suffering with this
Speedx is fine
Riptide gp steers to the right all the time when held properly. Have to hold about 30° to the left for it to go straight
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