Hey guys so I bought a Nexus 6P yesterday. Everything works good except the video camera, the 120/240 fps has a lots of grains, when I take it outside it dosent have much problem but I feel its not up to the mark of iphone.
Also when i change orientations from landscape to portrait it lags for a tiny second.
Is it normal to have this issue. Any ideas or fixes?
Similar thing on mine, grain is always there indoors in 240 fps, in 120 fps it's still acceptable (at least when there's some source of light. When i switch orientation on camera it only lags for a couple of tens of milliseconds, same as an iPhone.
So i'm assuming nothing's wrong with my phone
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Glad to know I'm not alone.. But it would have been cool if it worked all the time in great quality as I love taking slow mo videos. BTW I don't find the iPhone camera to lag at all .. They always seem to manage software better than anyone else.
I was thinking of getting this replaced but I'm afraid if the other one will come with more serious problems.
rythu_u said:
Hey guys so I bought a Nexus 6P yesterday. Everything works good except the video camera, the 120/240 fps has a lots of grains, when I take it outside it dosent have much problem but I feel its not up to the mark of iphone.
Also when i change orientations from landscape to portrait it lags for a tiny second.
Is it normal to have this issue. Any ideas or fixes?
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Grain is there, because you are shooting stuff indoors, and in 1/240 of a second you get little to none light in to the camera sensor. Also, comparing looks of the 720p footage between iPhone 720p-ish 5 inch screen vs. 2k 5.7 inch screen on Nexus 6p is pointless.
My point is, the footage will look worse on Nexus 6p because it has much bigger resolution and screen.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Grain is there, because you are shooting stuff indoors, and in 1/240 of a second you get little to none light in to the camera sensor. Also, comparing looks of the 720p footage between iPhone 720p-ish 5 inch screen vs. 2k 5.7 inch screen on Nexus 6p is pointless.
My point is, the footage will look worse on Nexus 6p because it has much bigger resolution and screen.
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Yeah that does make sense. I guess I have been really picky on every tiny details of this phone. The stills shots are amazing in the dark
The 12mp camera take top spot in DXO testing.
Everyone can now take a breather knowing they have the best camera on their phone on the market.
http://m.connect.dpreview.com/post/3905204821/dxomark-mobile-report-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
I think the phone takes horrible quality video tho and I have set to 4k and it's very grainy and yellow.
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I think the phone takes horrible quality video tho and I have set to 4k and it's very grainy and yellow.
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Well you can't expect it to perform well in low light. Were you shooting under CFL lighting? I found the camera tends to shoot yellow under cfls. Outside in daylight I have found video phenomenal. I shoot 4k, then stabilize then and downscale. It produces very very good 1080p. 4k resolution is basically never needed in normal life. Shoot it and downscale it. You will get alot less noise and a much smaller file. It's pretty much usable at most iso's. Before downscaling change the white balance.
Alot to go through. But it's the only reason to really shoot 4k.
I came from an iPhone 6+ and Oh boy did everyone overhype this camera.
It might be slightly better than what I was used on the iPhone but not to the scale everyone was claiming.
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Well you can't expect it to perform well in low light. Were you shooting under CFL lighting? I found the camera tends to shoot yellow under cfls. Outside in daylight I have found video phenomenal. I shoot 4k, then stabilize then and downscale. It produces very very good 1080p. 4k resolution is basically never needed in normal life. Shoot it and downscale it. You will get alot less noise and a much smaller file. It's pretty much usable at most iso's. Before downscaling change the white balance.
Alot to go through. But it's the only reason to really shoot 4k.
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Are you down scaling on the phone or the computer
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I saw one review in YouTube which concluded that the v20 video ois wasn't as good as...(I can't remember which phone it was comparing it to)...But I just remembered it now....I took a video of my daughter's performance and I noticed it was...shaking or vibrating in some parts because my hand wasn't steady.
Vibrating seems the better description.
Anyways...I did some testing by taking videos and walking around..and from what I can conclude, taking videos as fhd produces that vibrating effect while taking aa video at fhd 60 was prefect.
Wish I knew that before I recorded my daughter's performance....
It was a video comparing to a Pixel. Pretty sad the OIS is worthless.
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Noticed the poor IS. Wasn't happy about it. Hoping the fix it. I usually shoot 24-30fps which is supposed to be the sweet spot. No IS at full 4K which is expected. Tells me they're using EIS or basically just frame cropping in other words. It's what YouTube will apply to a video if you ask it. Wish they gave us an option to turn off all IS though so we can see just how well it really is working. I know I have shaky hands so maybe the little shaking I see is a massive improvement. Although, I guess I should try shooting 1080 with it on and 4K which has it off and see how different it is. Also, loud noise like video of certain bands seems to rattle the IS.
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It was a video comparing to a Pixel. Pretty sad the OIS is worthless.
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Yes the exact same jittery video hastened to me. But changing the video resolution one up gave me a prefect video. Maybe that's why the other video tests show the v20 as best.
I tried to use the V20 for a semi-professional video but it was no good. I had it on a gimbal to ensure it was very smooth, but the shots were "warbly". It was subtle, but made the footage unusable. I played back frame by frame in Premiere Pro and had a hard time pin pointing just what it was. It was like a jitter of some kind. I was shooting FHD 1080p 60 fps. I had to shoot at 60 fps to make it slow motion when I edited it.
I've tested this for a while and transferred video onto my laptop and see just as on my phone that the 60fps setting video is DARKER. Why is it doing this? Does anyone else see this? I can see through the viewfinder that it turns darker switching to 60fps. What's up with this?
Since 60fps requires 60 exposures per second of the camera sensor instead of 30 there is half as much light hitting the sensor per exposure. This means you can either get a darker image or a more grainy image with a boosted ISO.
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Since 60fps requires 60 exposures per second of the camera sensor instead of 30 there is half as much light hitting the sensor per exposure. This means you can either get a darker image or a more grainy image with a boosted ISO.
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Oh, shoot. So the sensor they put in this 6T is just crappy? I'm trying to figure this out because on my Note 9 recording in 60fps in the same exact room where I tested the 6T within the same hour I compared the videos and the N9 shot clean and bright video. So it's just the 6T camera not being great is the problem?
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Oh, shoot. So the sensor they put in this 6T is just crappy? I'm trying to figure this out because on my Note 9 recording in 60fps in the same exact room where I tested the 6T within the same hour I compared the videos and the N9 shot clean and bright video. So it's just the 6T camera not being great is the problem?
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probably the sensor of a oneplus is worse, but that isn't the reason, probably Samsung doesnt take advantage of the higher time between frames to capture more light in 30fps mode
Hi, I don't know how but it is happening something weird with my camera.
Yesterday it was recording a video in 4K at 60fps and I zoomed to focus on a specific object which was on the table.
After having recorded video I watched it again and noticed that in moment of the video when I focused on the object, this object was out of sight, out of the shooting of the video.
To be specific I could only see part of this object. It seems absurd to me because when I took the video, the object was in the center of the screen
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Hi, I don't know how but it is happening something weird with my camera.
Yesterday it was recording a video in 4K at 60fps and I zoomed to focus on a specific object which was on the table.
After having recorded video I watched it again and noticed that in moment of the video when I focused on the object, this object was out of sight, out of the shooting of the video.
To be specific I could only see part of this object. It seems absurd to me because when I took the video, the object was in the center of the screen
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Hello, I just read you and I was very surprised, the exact same problem happens to me, when I record a video at 60 FPS in 4k with the zoom at maximum, when viewing the video you do not see what I have recorded.
The worst and most curious thing is that they have already changed my device 2 times and in all of them the same problem occurs, I have only found 2 more people who have the same problem.
The first phone that they changed me was in Amazon which is where I originally bought it, later, since they no longer wanted to change it, I contacted OnePlus directly where they changed the camera module 2 times and since the problem was not solved they gave me another new phone but my surprise is that the same problem keeps happening which leads me to think that it is a general problem in all or a series of devices.
I returned to claim oneplus and they asked me for tests, I sent several videos where the problem is clearly seen and they say that the technicians do not see anything strange which is false.
The problem happens with or without zoom but with zoom it is more evident, I have recorded things in motion such as a helicopter, a boat or cars among other things and then they are not seen in the recording, it is as if the camera that records the video does not is the one that shows the image on the screen when recording the video.
Try it but if the problem you have is the same as mine, it will also happen to you in the photos if you pay attention.
I already opened a thread on xda but was surprised no one seems to have this problem, only one here and one on the official OnePlus forum.
I am thinking of suing OnePlus because it does not want to recognize the failure of a device that in my case cost me € 1000.
I hope we can find a solution but I am afraid that the problem is not software and is a more serious failure.
Make sure the lens are clean and the case if any doesn't interfere. Do not use 3rd party lense protectors.
Try clearing system cache.
Try clearing cam data.
A hard reset is a waste of time but a hard reboot might help.
Hard reboots shouldn't be needed and indicate a potential software/firmware/hardware issue.
Make them resolve this issue or refund your money... or live with the limitations.
I noticed the same thing when the camera is filming at 60fps. I read about it somewhere on xda as well, but I don't remember where.
It's as though the viewfinder is showing the image pre-stabilize, but the capture is stabilized and therefore is at a slightly different angle.
I figured it's really only an issue if i zoom in a lot, since what I'm filming can get completely out of frame. for those kind of shots i switch to 30fps, where the viewfinder shows exactly what is being captured.
I found the issue to be present in both 1080p and 4k 60fps.
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I didn't notice the post by @vrg3030 when i posted this lol
In this video you can clearly see what my problem is, when I record the letters on the screen then the image is shifted towards the center and when you are recording something in motion it is impossible to capture something like a car for example.
When I record the car centered on the screen then I see a small part of the car even not seen.
For me it is a serious problem sincerely because it limits a lot the possibilities of the camera and it is clear that it is a manufacturing fault.
To be able to record something in motion, you have to do it without focusing on what you want to record and that should not be the case and less on a € 1000 smartphone in my case.
I also have to say that when I updated to Android 11 it happened the opposite, in the video the letters are seen in the center and in Android 11 the letters disappear because they go up ..... incredible but true
So strange looks like it's being cropped.
Could this be a stabilization technique used similar to Google photos and YouTube which matches on screen content and shifts the frames to eliminate shake?
Then the resulting video capture crops the video as the edges which would have been uneven and changing edges?
Just a theory but would make sense.
A test for this would be to make a video in the same way but use a tripod to Trotsky eliminate shake, use a delay.
Obviously I'm not suggesting using a tripod all the time but it may result in the proposed video you see through the viewfinder
dladz said:
So strange looks like it's being cropped.
Could this be a stabilization technique used similar to Google photos and YouTube which matches on screen content and shifts the frames to eliminate shake?
Then the resulting video capture crops the video as the edges which would have been uneven and changing edges?
Just a theory but would make sense.
A test for this would be to make a video in the same way but use a tripod to Trotsky eliminate shake, use a delay.
Obviously I'm not suggesting using a tripod all the time but it may result in the proposed video you see through the viewfinder
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In the recording it is seen that I am using a tripod on the OnePlus 8 at the time I perform the test.
Obviously the one with which I record the video is not on a tripod, anyway although the OnePlus 8 worked well with a tripod it cannot be that it has to be used to record videos at 4k 60fps with zoom.
And as I said before, if what I am trying to record is in motion, it would not be seen on the screen as the letters appear on the video.
The letters are visible because they are static and that video is before updating to Android 11, after updating it happens the opposite, the letters disappear from the screen because they go up, it's crazy
I have done the test recording the same with the OnePlus 8 Pro, Samsung note 20 Ultra and Galaxy S20 ultra and the problem is only me, I have sent several videos recording static and moving targets to OnePlus and they say they do not see anything abnormal ..... Seriously?
All the people who see the videos and my friends who test the smartphone clearly see the problem and they do not hahaha anyway ..... I am studying taking legal action
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In the recording it is seen that I am using a tripod on the OnePlus 8 at the time I perform the test.
Obviously the one with which I record the video is not on a tripod, anyway although the OnePlus 8 worked well with a tripod it cannot be that it has to be used to record videos at 4k 60fps with zoom.
And as I said before, if what I am trying to record is in motion, it would not be seen on the screen as the letters appear on the video.
The letters are visible because they are static and that video is before updating to Android 11, after updating it happens the opposite, the letters disappear from the screen because they go up, it's crazy
I have done the test recording the same with the OnePlus 8 Pro, Samsung note 20 Ultra and Galaxy S20 ultra and the problem is only me, I have sent several videos recording static and moving targets to OnePlus and they say they do not see anything abnormal ..... Seriously?
All the people who see the videos and my friends who test the smartphone clearly see the problem and they do not hahaha anyway ..... I am studying taking legal action
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Ok so the text on screen, where does that come from??
Is that something you've added?
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Ok so the text on screen, where does that come from??
Is that something you've added?
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I am recording a 50 "television where there is a YouTube video paused and I am recording it with the OnePlus 8 Pro on a tripod one meter from the screen and the video you see is recorded with a Realme X2 I do not know if I explain well, i'm not english speaking sorry.
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I am recording a 50 "television where there is a YouTube video paused and I am recording it with the OnePlus 8 Pro on a tripod one meter from the screen and the video you see is recorded with a Realme X2 I do not know if I explain well, i'm not english speaking sorry.
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Lol dw. Ok so the text is on screen that's fine. I'll give it a test later myself . Just watching the football
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I am recording a 50 "television where there is a YouTube video paused and I am recording it with the OnePlus 8 Pro on a tripod one meter from the screen and the video you see is recorded with a Realme X2 I do not know if I explain well, i'm not english speaking sorry.
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I've just turned grid on, then recorded in 4k 60fps with HDR off and put the center point out the grid on a picture on my wall then recorded, zoomed in, zoomed out then played back, my starting lens was the centre one.
Retried with the most zoomed out lens and repeated.
Image in the center remains in the center throughout.
I'm on OOS 11.0.2.2
If it's switching lenses then I'm not seeing it
Edit: also placed a piece of blu tac over the center of the screen to confirm and it does indeed remain central
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I've just turned grid on, then recorded in 4k 60fps with HDR off and put the center point out the grid on a picture on my wall then recorded, zoomed in, zoomed out then played back, my starting lens was the centre one.
Retried with the most zoomed out lens and repeated.
Image in the center remains in the center throughout.
I'm on OOS 11.0.2.2
If it's switching lenses then I'm not seeing it
Edit: also placed a piece of blu tac over the center of the screen to confirm and it does indeed remain central
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Thanks for doing the test, you have reminded me of something talking about the change between lenses, I think the failure may be related to that although I do not understand much about this topic.
If you don't mind by having time, try to record some moving object such as a car for example that is about 150 meters or so and then check if you see it correctly centered
In this video I recorded a ship that passed in front of me with the zoom and the only moment that I could see entirety in the video is when it passed in front of me because obviously at some point the ship passes in front of all the lenses and they capture it entirely but in the moment that has already overtaken me and I begin to follow it, the problem begins.
It is as if the lens that shows me the image on the screen when recording the video is not the same as the one that records the video, it is recorded by one of the 2 next to it
In the video do not use the zoom to the maximum and you can see clearly what I say, with the zoom to the maximum it would not have been seen and I assure you that when I was recording the video the boat was completely visible
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Thanks for doing the test, you have reminded me of something talking about the change between lenses, I think the failure may be related to that although I do not understand much about this topic.
If you don't mind by having time, try to record some moving object such as a car for example that is about 150 meters or so and then check if you see it correctly centered
In this video I recorded a ship that passed in front of me with the zoom and the only moment that I could see entirety in the video is when it passed in front of me because obviously at some point the ship passes in front of all the lenses and they capture it entirely but in the moment that has already overtaken me and I begin to follow it, the problem begins.
It is as if the lens that shows me the image on the screen when recording the video is not the same as the one that records the video, it is recorded by one of the 2 next to it
In the video do not use the zoom to the maximum and you can see clearly what I say, with the zoom to the maximum it would not have been seen and I assure you that when I was recording the video the boat was completely visible
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That's when it goes past X3 zoom you can see a small stutter.
Will have a go at it, it's midnight here, sorry probs tomorrow.
I'd be almost certain that this doesn't happen on GCam, unless it alters the lenses.
Has anyone found a solution?