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Basically, when I leave wi-fi on my phone has incredible battery life. If someone has already mentioned this feel free to bury this post, but to my knowledge it doesn't seem this has been posted yet.
With wi-fi off and 3g on
- Battery lost 5-6 percent per hour
Wi-fi on
- Battery lost 1-2 percent per hour (sometimes less than 1 percent depending on what your doing)
Right now after having my phone on for 34 hours my battery is still at 70 percent! I'm fairly certain this is because it disables the 3g radio altogether which apparently is a real battery hog. That or maybe my phone is just a fluke. I really don't know.
This also seems to be tied to the htc sense rom (correct me if im wrong) but if i remember correctly battery drainage increased when wifi was enabled in the stock rom. Currently, I'm using the latest htc sense rom from modaco, I'd really enjoy hearing if enabling wifi helps others extend their battery life.
your having better battery life with the Desire ROMs? that odd, my battery life with a Desire ROM was 20-30% worse compared to stock.
amlwaycooljr said:
Basically, when I leave wi-fi on my phone has incredible battery life. If someone has already mentioned this feel free to bury this post, but to my knowledge it doesn't seem this has been posted yet.
With wi-fi off and 3g on
- Battery lost 5-6 percent per hour
Wi-fi on
- Battery lost 1-2 percent per hour (sometimes less than 1 percent depending on what your doing)
Right now after having my phone on for 34 hours my battery is still at 70 percent! I'm fairly certain this is because it disables the 3g radio altogether which apparently is a real battery hog. That or maybe my phone is just a fluke. I really don't know.
This also seems to be tied to the htc sense rom (correct me if im wrong) but if i remember correctly battery drainage increased when wifi was enabled in the stock rom. Currently, I'm using the latest htc sense rom from modaco, I'd really enjoy hearing if enabling wifi helps others extend their battery life.
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Actually, it's a well known fact that 3G uses more power on most (every?) phones than Wifi... so you're not alone.
Hey when you say WIFI on..do you mean WIFI and EDGE or did you completely disabled the radio?
I never would have thought having wifi on would extend battery life to such a great extent though, in most of the latest cell phone reviews and what not everyone recommends to have wifi off saves battery life but in this case just the opposite is true. I kinda knew the wifi was more efficient but I never expected such a large benefit from leaving wifi on all the time.
@ram130 I haven't actually touched the radios at all so I expect them all to be on or at the very least have edge on, I am able to receive and send calls and txt so I'm assuming at least some cell radio has to be on. All I did was use the htc sense rom and enable wifi.
The cellular radio is still on, but 3G/Edge (data) are disconnected. I don't know how Edge compares to Wifi, but 3G is a battery killer in comparison.
uansari1 said:
The cellular radio is still on, but 3G/Edge (data) are disconnected. I don't know how Edge compares to Wifi, but 3G is a battery killer in comparison.
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amlwaycooljr said:
I never would have thought having wifi on would extend battery life to such a great extent though, in most of the latest cell phone reviews and what not everyone recommends to have wifi off saves battery life but in this case just the opposite is true. I kinda knew the wifi was more efficient but I never expected such a large benefit from leaving wifi on all the time.
@ram130 I haven't actually touched the radios at all so I expect them all to be on or at the very least have edge on, I am able to receive and send calls and txt so I'm assuming at least some cell radio has to be on. All I did was use the htc sense rom and enable wifi.
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In other words you have "use 2G networks" checked right?
I'm gonna try this is now. I'm currently at 3hr 32m unplugged with 80% left. I have wifi enabled and on the stock rom. So I'll post back when I wake in a few a hours and see how it goes.
My only problem:
Wifi seems to disconnect alot during the hour regardless if sleep policy is set to NEVER. My wifi signal is -78dBm to -86dBm in my room and on channel 11(used wifi analyzer). Any suggestions why?
I have the same experience at home, I enable Wifi and leave the phone stay home for a couple of days and battery still 40%, when I go out and wifi is not connected, 3G kicks in and battery drops much faster.
I'm using cyanogen 5.0.4.1
Interesting. Did not know this!
I guess I won't feel so bad about leaving my phone on Wifi all day!
Also, does anyone know how much power is used by not having a radio signal and letting it constantly search? That seems to destroy my battery. But sometimes I am in an area with wifi but no radio access (deep within a building).
It's too bad this phone doesn't have UMA - that would make up for T-Mobile's lack of indoor coverage (at times), and probably improve battery life a lot in some cases.
But I have to say that on another phones I've used, especially WinMo devices, using WiFi instead of 3G seemed to always use more battery. But, it could very well be different on this phone...I'm definitely going to give this a try.
im not sure about the percentage but i agree,the battery drain is considerably more when searching for radio.im in a building most of the day and it doesnt take long.miss the UMA i had on my bberry.
Paul22000 said:
Interesting. Did not know this!
I guess I won't feel so bad about leaving my phone on Wifi all day!
Also, does anyone know how much power is used by not having a radio signal and letting it constantly search? That seems to destroy my battery. But sometimes I am in an area with wifi but no radio access (deep within a building).
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I also Get. About 25% better battery on wifi
Well after 10hrs of the phone being on stand by I woke up. It was at 46%!! my god. Anyway I checked my email, read an article all taking around 15mins and guess what? I had 30% left!. I put it back to stand by for 3hrs and took a look at it and had about 16% left...
It is now charging after one hour with just 10min use of downloading apps ..Can ANYONE tell me why my battery is draining so much on wifi? When its on EDGE for the night after 10hr I would have around 70% left from a full charge. Anyone can help me out here?
I shall be getting a replacement battery for free Tuesday.
Stock android.
ram130 said:
Well after 10hrs of the phone being on stand by I woke up. It was at 46%!! my god. Anyway I checked my email, read an article all taking around 15mins and guess what? I had 30% left!. I put it back to stand by for 3hrs and took a look at it and had about 16% left...
It is now charging after one hour with just 10min use of downloading apps ..Can ANYONE tell me why my battery is draining so much on wifi? When its on EDGE for the night after 10hr I would have around 70% left from a full charge. Anyone can help me out here?
I shall be getting a replacement battery for free Tuesday.
Stock android.
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Did you set your phone to only use 2G networks also? If you're not charging, wifi will probably disable after not being used for a while..so it's probably rolling to 3G if you haven't disabled it.
I'm not saying it's convenient to constantly switch back and forth... but this explains why it may not be a good test of the battery life the way you're running it.
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Did you set your phone to only use 2G networks also? If you're not charging, wifi will probably disable after not being used for a while..so it's probably rolling to 3G if you haven't disabled it.
I'm not saying it's convenient to constantly switch back and forth... but this explains why it may not be a good test of the battery life the way you're running it.
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Well yes I have it on 2G only. Any thing else could be contributing to it dying so fast?
Well I found a way to use my laptop as an AP. So I connected my N1 to it and getting full bars(-41dBm) in my room now. No wifi disconnects so far!(maybe it was my linksys before ?).. So far the battery is at 86% with some 3D games, been unplug for 1hr 50min now. I'll put it to stand by now and see how it looks after 10hrs.
I'm on a stock firmware(not rooted). 2G only selected.
The way I understand it is as follows:
Phone is on STANDBY:
3g==2g* which are both more efficient then wifi (that's why the default wifi policy turns wifi off if it's not being used)**
Phone is ACTIVE:
wifi is more efficient then 2g/3g because:
1) It's waaay faster and thus causes less battery drain* and
2) The AP (router) is much closer to the phone then the cell tower so in theory it doesn't need to use as much power to talk to the router.
*http://code.google.com/events/io/2009/sessions/CodingLifeBatteryLife.html
4:45min into it there is a power usage chart and 3G/EDGE idle power usage is about the same - also somewhere else in the video they talk about wifi vs 3g usage when transferring data.
** http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewStandbyTechnique
States that 3g standby is more efficient then wifi
drak0 said:
** http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewStandbyTechnique
States that 3g standby is more efficient then wifi
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Someone needs to test this ok. ...already testing wifi
Ok I'm at 11hrs 30min on wifi and its at 67% with light usage(checking email, news for 5min)..improvement? kinda, because since turning off my laptop it switched back to getting low signal(-81dBm) from the router in the next room. Weird? I'm still thinking. anyway I'm heading out so gonna use the phone more today, lets see if it gets me through the day.
Still no where near the thread starter 30hrs!! Maybe stock really sucks? bad battery anyone??
@ram130 I'm not sure how my battery is lasting as long as it has so far. I'm up to what would be an insane number, 65 hours 36 percent left .. this battery just wont die. I haven't the slightest idea how it's lasting this long I just leave wifi on all the time and turn wifi standby off. If anyone could explain how leaving wifi on more than quadruples my battery life I'd sure love to know.
Hey, I am trying to figure out why my battery drain is so high. Part of it is the display (trying to work on that too) but I see that my "phone signal" is quite bad. I have a feeling that this is draining my battery.
I have attached my battery stats. Do they look normal. And does the phone signal look normal or below normal. I think it is worth noting that I almost always have 4 bars of signal so I am not sure whats going on. I use my phone in Canada on the fido/rogers network (i believe it is the same as At&t in the states). Is there another radio I can flash or something if this is not normal (which will still work with my phone/network)?
Thanks a lot
Reports are that using 3G a lot drains the battery immensly.
Try switching to use 2G only and see how that affects your battery life.
Greetz
frutelaken said:
Reports are that using 3G a lot drains the battery immensly.
Try switching to use 2G only and see how that affects your battery life.
Greetz
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I dont think it is worth it to pay $30 a month to use 2g networks. I will try to turn off the 3g radio when on wifi though. And maybe only turn on 3g when i need it. As for the phone signal bar. Is it the same or worse than what you guys are getting?
asb123 said:
I dont think it is worth it to pay $30 a month to use 2g networks. I will try to turn off the 3g radio when on wifi though. And maybe only turn on 3g when i need it. As for the phone signal bar. Is it the same or worse than what you guys are getting?
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It already works this way. Wifi is going to be your best bet to lessen drain if available (both in standby and when using data - just make sure you have the sleep policy set to never).
If you have poor signal you are going to murder your battery - no way around it. The radio will boost power (Gain is adjusted automatically) in an attempt to get a better signal - and constantly search for a better one. So if you are bouncing between no service and 1 bar or even with just a weak 1 bar signal you are going to see atrocious battery life. There's not much you can do there except potentially switch to SIP in those times if you use a SIP provider.
If you are sitting with 4 bars then you should be seeing decidedly better battery life. What is the actual time the display was on in that screenshot?
I use 3G and its fine. What radio are you using?
the choices are: JK8, KB1, KB3, KD1
you can find them on the dev forums
asb123 said:
Hey, I am trying to figure out why my battery drain is so high. Part of it is the display (trying to work on that too) but I see that my "phone signal" is quite bad. I have a feeling that this is draining my battery.
I have attached my battery stats. Do they look normal. And does the phone signal look normal or below normal. I think it is worth noting that I almost always have 4 bars of signal so I am not sure whats going on. I use my phone in Canada on the fido/rogers network (i believe it is the same as At&t in the states). Is there another radio I can flash or something if this is not normal (which will still work with my phone/network)?
Thanks a lot
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that looks pretty normal for that kind of usage. id say that you were a moderately heavy to heavy user.
krohnjw said:
It already works this way. Wifi is going to be your best bet to lessen drain if available (both in standby and when using data - just make sure you have the sleep policy set to never).
If you have poor signal you are going to murder your battery - no way around it. The radio will boost power (Gain is adjusted automatically) in an attempt to get a better signal - and constantly search for a better one. So if you are bouncing between no service and 1 bar or even with just a weak 1 bar signal you are going to see atrocious battery life. There's not much you can do there except potentially switch to SIP in those times if you use a SIP provider.
If you are sitting with 4 bars then you should be seeing decidedly better battery life. What is the actual time the display was on in that screenshot?
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I usually have about 3-4 bars. The time on for the display was probably just over 2 hours (judging from what it is now).
zephiK said:
I use 3G and its fine. What radio are you using?
the choices are: JK8, KB1, KB3, KD1
you can find them on the dev forums
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I have KD1, how does that stack up?
also, I am using netarchy bfs kernel if that matters.
simms22 said:
that looks pretty normal for that kind of usage. id say that you were a moderately heavy to heavy user.
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I agree. you're a pretty heavy user So far different radio doesn't drain battery, but only the difference of data connection speed cap.
window7 said:
I agree. you're a pretty heavy user So far different radio doesn't drain battery, but only the difference of data connection speed cap.
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Yes I do love android (been tinkering around since the g1). I do realize that I am a heavier user than the average person but it might also be that I recently got this phone so I am using it more.
Aside from that, does everything else seem normal?
"Android System" should not be taking such a high %. It should be about 1-2%.
There is (was?) a bug that causes high cpu usage (and shows as Android System) when wifi is on, but not connected to a network.
Another thing I can think of and is something I've experienced, is that sometimes you get an IP address from the mobile network that has a lot of noise, that is, it's an address someone has likely used p2p programs with and there are lots of connection retries. You can see it because the green arrows don't stay dark for more than a couple of seconds, and it kills your battery quite fast. Reconnecting to get a different IP address is the only solution...
Also, bluetooth may be a factor...
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"Android System" should not be taking such a high %. It should be about 1-2%.
There is (was?) a bug that causes high cpu usage (and shows as Android System) when wifi is on, but not connected to a network.
Another thing I can think of and is something I've experienced, is that sometimes you get an IP address from the mobile network that has a lot of noise, that is, it's an address someone has likely used p2p programs with and there are lots of connection retries. You can see it because the green arrows don't stay dark for more than a couple of seconds, and it kills your battery quite fast. Reconnecting to get a different IP address is the only solution...
Also, bluetooth may be a factor...
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Blutooth is always off unless I need to use it (which is rare). I am not sure how to make my mobile network connect to a different IP adresse, would turning it on and off do the trick?
Being in area where there is low/no signal also causes my battery drain to increase by a lot! Which sucks cos where i live i get either 1 or no bars of signal.
This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the 3 choices. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it.
#Its only for those beginners who dont know about this setting...
dont you mean tick always, as if you tick never itll go back to using your dataplan instead of the wifi
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I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
Results may very due to your services supporting fast dormancy, etc.
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koolshubh said:
This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the 3 choices. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it.
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You need to choose "Always", not "Never". If you choose "never", then it disconnect wifi as soon as display is turned off.
SlimJ87D said:
I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
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If you're moving out of wifi range, or in and out of wifi range, turning wifi off will use less power as associating with an AP has a high energy cost. But as the original poster says, if you're going to be sitting in one place all day e.g. at home or at the office where your phone will always be connected to an AP, leaving wifi on and always connected will use less power than 3G.
More details here:
http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arun/papers/TailEnder.pdf
I suppose it's not that surprising. I'm sure many of us, after buying a new phone, have left the old one sitting around at home without a SIM card but connected to wifi, still polling emails and everything. The battery lasts ages!
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This might be irrelevant, but i red an article her in xda about modern mobiles battery long time ago.the article said that when wifi on or off has no significance effect on battery life (regardless of other sitting like carrier signal .....etc)
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SlimJ87D said:
I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
Results may very due to your services supporting fast dormancy, etc.
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Apparently FD doesn't affect battery life that much (See here, second post). I get better battery life on wifi and I think that's still the case for the majority of people if they are within a wifi area.
I tried and with option "always" I have more battery drain, cca. 2%/h in idle/screen off/overnight. With old setup when Wi-Fi is off in case screen goes off, I have cca. 1.6%/h. So, it doesn't work for me. Thanks anyway.
What ive found is to turn your 3g to 2g, that will save a LOT of battery. I use 3g if im out and about where theres no wifi, if im at work i dont use my phone often so switch 3g to 2g. It still brings my notifications in time. And at night switch to 2g as well.
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Raz88 said:
What ive found is to turn your 3g to 2g, that will save a LOT of battery. I use 3g if im out and about where theres no wifi, if im at work i dont use my phone often so switch 3g to 2g. It still brings my notifications in time. And at night switch to 2g as well.
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But that's a no brainer! Of course battery life will last a lot longer on 2G! Your battery life will also last a lot longer if you have no data connectivity. The discussion here is between data and wifi.
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Thanks good tip
Hi,
Below you will find some tricks i use to increase standby time and force less resource consumption leading to a better battery life. I have tested all these things a number of times and my device's battery performance is upto the mark when i follow them.
1. Disable Moto tips n tricks in Settings > Motorola privacy > Uncheck Help motorola and Moto care
Everyone by now knows how to use moto apps and their added benifits so there is no need to enable those options. They use data in the background. By turning these off you not only save data but also prevent wake lock leading to better standby.
2. Use active display cleverly
I dont use the option to turn off notifications at night. But all the notifications recieved during my sleep are shown by the active display leading to battery drain even though the device itself is asleep. So, the trick here is to place the phone on its back or put the phone underneath a cushion tricking the proximity sensor into thinking its in a pocket so that active display doesnt show any notifications.
3. Disable motorola security in Settings > Security > Device admin > Motorola device privacy
By default google's android device manager is on which helps to locate device in case of theft. So there is no need to get the same benifit of android device manager by motorola. All it does is use data under google services. Again less data consumption and better standby time.
4. Google location reporting
I dont use google now. And everyone who doesnt should disable google location reporting in Setting > Location > location reporting. If you use google now then it is not a better idea to disable location reporting because it helps to provide info about places nearby but if you dont use google now unchecking location reporting helps to save data and unnecessary wake locks.
5. Retrain Ok google now
If your moto x wakes up to voices not even close to the phrase ok google now in a crowd or a noisy environment then you need to retrain the device. Speak the phrase loud and clear. This helps me to avoid unnecessary wake ups.
6. Check you ram usage under Settings > Apps > Swipe left
This is suggested everywhere but the actual thing to note is the service section. Simple apps like Aviary (photo editor) keep a service running in the background. Remove all such apps. It helps to avoid unnecessary ram use and keep the device smooth after days of use without restart.
7. Battery percentage in status bar for better Screen on time
I use Du battery saver to indicate the battery percentage on the status bar. Weirdly my device would charge slowly but provide way better screen on time. However it behaves normally if i turn of the battery indicator. I have no idea why this happens but i have tested it and this trick works on my device.
8. Turn of scanning when wifi is off
Goto Settings > wifi > in options de select avoid poor signals and scanning always available.
9. Charging with a full signal
Whenever you are charging the device be sure to charge it in a place with full signal. I have noted that when i charge the phone in a room with three signal bars or low it charges slowly as compared to full signal. Although this maybe because of different power sockets but i have tested this on two sockets located at a place where i get one maybe two signal bars and two another sockets where i get full signal. It works for me.
I will update this thread if anything else comes in my mind.
I already do all these (and a lot more actually) and i just barely make it through a day if i don't really use my Moto X (X1056). Love the phone and all but it's battery is not up to snuff at all. Just got tired of spending time babying the battery and now just use my phone. Have a Targus 6000 mAh external battery thingy i keep in my tote bag that comes in handy every now and then.
In my opinion and experience, the 2013 Moto X and great battery life are not synonymous at all. I just deal with it.
I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
I'll give some of these a try, the problem I usually have is my phone thinks that it is much more dead than it really is. I think this instance it was on 1% for like 8-10 hours.
I do know about the 1 percent bug but i think it to be a hardware problem rather than software. I have a similar problem with my car. The nossle that pours gas in the tank cuts off automatically even when the tank till has the capacity to get 10 litres of petrol in it. The car company told me that the sensor is placed incorrectly in my tank leading the nossle to cut off way before the limit. Similarly the battery circuit may be wired incorrectly but this is just a theory.
Adding to my list of suggestions-
1. Switch to 2g when using wifi
If you use 3g/4g in an area where signal strength is not that high the phone would constantly force its modem to not only maintain a steady signal but also to get maximum signal which causes battery drain. So if you got wifi installed in your home or office, switch to 2g and save battery. Goto Settings > More..> Mobile network > Preferred network type and toggle accordingly.
2. Google + auto back up
Photos app that is a part of google + app automatically backs up all your images on the cloud. Many people are unaware about it and the back up happens in background. This uses a lot data. To cancel this open photos app and in options goto settings and sign out of your account. Some people may use this feature but i dont because it backs up every image stored on the device - whatsapp images, screenshots, viber the list goes on.
3. Google sync
Goto settings and scroll down to your google account. Uncheck all the options which your device doesnt require syncing. Since i dont use google play books tv i keep them unchecked.
KD25 said:
I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
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Are you running stock? I'm thinking about putting in a warranty claim on my device. I'm currently at 61% battery. 5.5 hours on battery and about an hour screen on time. did use maps for about 5 minutes, but even then, not close to what many other users are getting. I've factory reset multiple times. Don't want to unlock bootloader as it's still under warranty.
Going to call Moto today.
npiper05 said:
Are you running stock? I'm thinking about putting in a warranty claim on my device. I'm currently at 61% battery. 5.5 hours on battery and about an hour screen on time. did use maps for about 5 minutes, but even then, not close to what many other users are getting. I've factory reset multiple times. Don't want to unlock bootloader as it's still under warranty.
Going to call Moto today.
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Yes i am running stock. Never rooted never felt the need to. Although i like to tinker devices but within the limit. Before calling in for warranty try disabling google now for a day. I am sure it wont hurt. Also check the times your device got awake in the battery section. The key here is to extend standby time. No one can magically increase on screen time of a device beyond the battery capability but what can be controlled is the standby time. If you arenot using the phone it should be figuratively dead. And seeing the information you provided i can judge your device remains awake. My average run with the battery is about 22 hrs including 4 hr screen on time.
KD25 said:
Yes i am running stock. Never rooted never felt the need to. Although i like to tinker devices but within the limit. Before calling in for warranty try disabling google now for a day. I am sure it wont hurt. Also check the times your device got awake in the battery section. The key here is to extend standby time. No one can magically increase on screen time of a device beyond the battery capability but what can be controlled is the standby time. If you arenot using the phone it should be figuratively dead. And seeing the information you provided i can judge your device remains awake. My average run with the battery is about 22 hrs including 4 hr screen on time.
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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npiper05 said:
Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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Bro just freez or disable unused app or wont use any booster they also consume lot of memeory and also no need of any antivirus....always try to switch off net when u dont use......or try custom rom
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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After watching the screenshot i suggest you switch to 3g. Your device is getting poor 4g coverage which is the only reason for heavy battery drain.
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After watching the screenshot i suggest you switch to 3g. Your device is getting poor 4g coverage which is the only reason for heavy battery drain.
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How do you do that? I didn't' think you could if you used a GSM provider and I'm on T-Mobile.
Nick
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How do you do that? I didn't' think you could if you used a GSM provider and I'm on T-Mobile.
Nick
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Well in my country moto x is sold unlocked. We dont have carrier contracts. So we get the option to switch in Settings > More > Mobile networks > Preferred network type. Not sure about your phone.
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Well in my country moto x is sold unlocked. We dont have carrier contracts. So we get the option to switch in Settings > More > Mobile networks > Preferred network type. Not sure about your phone.
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Thanks - tried that. My only options are Automatic and 2G only. No option between 3G and 4G. I usually have better signal, but I'm in my basement working from home today. When that's the case should I switch to 2G? Signal is the same. I guess I could turn off mobile data when I'm home and on Wifi. However, if I'm on wifi, do I need to worry about that or does being on Wifi turn off mobile data? It's been awhile for me.
I really just want to make it through the day on a charge. I normally only have a couple hours screen on time, but even now, I'm lucky to get ten hours. took your advice and turned off Google Now. I'll see how the second half of the battery goes.
Nick
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Thanks - tried that. My only options are Automatic and 2G only. No option between 3G and 4G. I usually have better signal, but I'm in my basement working from home today. When that's the case should I switch to 2G? Signal is the same. I guess I could turn off mobile data when I'm home and on Wifi. However, if I'm on wifi, do I need to worry about that or does being on Wifi turn off mobile data? It's been awhile for me.
I really just want to make it through the day on a charge. I normally only have a couple hours screen on time, but even now, I'm lucky to get ten hours. took your advice and turned off Google Now. I'll see how the second half of the battery goes.
Nick
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When i switch to 2g i never lose a signal bar. Never. So if you see yourself in a situation like today where signal is low i strongly suggest you to use 2g. Since you are connected to wifi your modem doesnt need to pull data. I get that people want atleast a day's battery life out of their phone but this hassle of 3g 4g is really what bogs down battery life. Another thing to lookout for is location reporting. Since you have turned off google now turn off location reporting as well.
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When i switch to 2g i never lose a signal bar. Never. So if you see yourself in a situation like today where signal is low i strongly suggest you to use 2g. Since you are connected to wifi your modem doesnt need to pull data. I get that people want atleast a day's battery life out of their phone but this hassle of 3g 4g is really what bogs down battery life. Another thing to lookout for is location reporting. Since you have turned off google now turn off location reporting as well.
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Thanks for all your help. I went ahead turned mobile data off since I'm home. I'll keep an eye on signal and try to use Wifi when I can. I do have location reporting off (I only use it when I need GPS, which isn't too often).
When I switch to 2G, my signal remains the same. Does that sound right? Or is 2g just going to use less power, regardless of signal?
Nick
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Thanks for all your help. I went ahead turned mobile data off since I'm home. I'll keep an eye on signal and try to use Wifi when I can. I do have location reporting off (I only use it when I need GPS, which isn't too often).
When I switch to 2G, my signal remains the same. Does that sound right? Or is 2g just going to use less power, regardless of signal?
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I definately see change in signal strength when i toggle between 3g/2g. And yes 2g uses way less power. Again i am not sure why you are getting the same signal on 2g.
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I definately see change in signal strength when i toggle between 3g/2g. And yes 2g uses way less power. Again i am not sure why you are getting the same signal on 2g.
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Thanks again for all your help! Closer to 11 hours in and around 45%. Only lost about 15% in last 4ish hours versus 35% in first 5. Turned off Google Now and switched to 2g when on WiFi. Location is also off. Guessing guys that get 4+ hours SOT are doing the same. Bit of a pain to have to toggle between 2g and 4g. I'm guessing I can download a widget to make it easier.
Anyway, you rock.
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I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
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Whether you agree with me or disagree with me is irrelevant. At the end of the day, it is MY experience, and what I experience using MY Moto X. Is it improbable that we both have dissimilar experiences and usage scenarios?
those are some nice suggestions, but some of your paths were not found (e.g. Motorola Privacy).
regardless,
a.) there is already a battery life thread
b.) battery life is going to be what you make of it, and there are numerous variables - even within the same country or carrier
but if you are going to report your battery life experience, be sure to give full detail so that folks can make an apples-to-apples comparison. For example, below are mine for a typical weekday:
carrier: VZW (maryland)
off charger time: 16 hours (6am - 10pm)
wifi: on all the time (about 6 hours connected to wifi)
mobile data: set to Global and on all the time (about 10 hours connected to mobile data - no wifi connection)
bluetooth: on all the time (and connected to Moto 360 watch, with 1 hour total connected to my car)
location services: on all the time
touchless control: on
active display: on
google now hotword detection: on
GPS: battery saving mode
root: yes
unlocked bootloader: yes (although this REALLY shouldn't make a difference, but I have noticed worse battery life after unlocking - could be due to after a reboot, the system does not revert back???)
system partition: DALVIK
ROM: Krypton 4.4.4 or stock 4.4.4
total screen on time: ~2 hours
battery saving apps: greenify
other apps: Xposed with gravity box
prior to the 4.4.4 update, I would get 3 hours easily, now I barely hit 2. my reason for leaving everything on is that I like to have my day/life as seamless as possible. i don't want to have to worry about turning on/off wifi/bluetooth or any other features. a smartphone should be usable for at least 24 hours with at least 2 hours of SOT without having to tinker with it all day.
hope this helps.
Hey everyone,
I picked up a T2 on Thursday morning coming from a Maxx, and after the first day I felt I wasn't getting quite the battery life I should. After watching the battery stats and doing some research, the issue seems to be due to Lollipop's well-documented cell standby bug. Coming from KitKat I have been pretty frustrated by this, as my T2 will sometimes drain 5% or more in an hour of idling if WiFi (or possibly Bluetooth) is on, and seems to drain much faster with use if WiFi is on. (Note that all of this is taking place in areas with very strong 4g and WiFi signal).
When WiFi is turned on, Cell Standby tops the battery consumption chart by a large margin and my unscientific eyeball test suggests that the battery drains much faster.
Is anyone else having this issue? I'm considering taking the T2 back, but honestly there aren't any other new phones with comparable battery life, and it would be hard to give up the shatterproof display. Other than this I'm loving the phone and Lollipop.
Thanks!
I'm not having that issue at all and I leave my WiFi on pretty much all the time. I just checked mine and in 13 hrs my cell standby was 8%. Honestly idk if that's good or bad.
I guess I'll just keep an eye on it. Over this past night Cell Standby was on for 10 hours and had the Mobile Radio on for 8 hours while the phone was idle. Not sure if this is intended or not. My battery woes could just be in my head.
cell standby has been near or at the top of all 3 of my Verizon Lollipop phones so dont believe its a Turbo 2 direct issue.
I guess I'll just be patiently awaiting marshmallow then!
Try this, idk if it'll help or not but under WiFi settings under keep WiFi on during sleep, choose only when charging.
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Try this, idk if it'll help or not but under WiFi settings under keep WiFi on during sleep, choose only when charging.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot!
I've also read this cell standby time is related to WiFi and possible fixes are as follows. Turn off allow Google to scan for networks even if off, keep WiFi on during sleep charge only, LTE instead of global, and then go into recovery and clear cache. This is what I did and my cell drain is very low. Hope it helps.
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I've also read this cell standby time is related to WiFi and possible fixes are as follows. Turn off allow Google to scan for networks even if off, keep WiFi on during sleep charge only, LTE instead of global, and then go into recovery and clear cache. This is what I did and my cell drain is very low. Hope it helps.
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Thanks for the tips - I changed all the settings but I'm having trouble getting into recover. When I try to launch from the bootloader I just get the dead Android with "No Command" displayed below it. Is there something I'm missing? FWIW I have dev mode on and unlock oem bootloader on.
I wouldn't turn on unlock boot loader this disables some security features and unless we have a way to truly unlock it. It's better to leave on. Dev mode doesn't affect drain issue at all. Here's link for booting into recovery.
http://androiding.how/download-droid-turbo-android-5-1-lollipop-ota-update/
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I wouldn't turn on unlock boot loader this disables some security features and unless we have a way to truly unlock it. It's better to leave on. Dev mode doesn't affect drain issue at all. Here's link for booting into recovery.
http://androiding.how/download-droid-turbo-android-5-1-lollipop-ota-update/
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Got it. Thanks for the help!
Mine drains fast while sleeping at home. In my case, the signal is poor so the phone has to crank up the radio power, draining the battery.
UPDATE: For anyone interested, the fixes suggested in this thread seem to have done the trick for me. After changing settings and wiping cache I am getting even better battery life (7-8 hours of screen on time up from 5-6 in similar conditions). This could, of course, be due to other factors - but hey, it's worth a shot if your battery is draining quickly!
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I've also read this cell standby time is related to WiFi and possible fixes are as follows. Turn off allow Google to scan for networks even if off, keep WiFi on during sleep charge only, LTE instead of global, and then go into recovery and clear cache. This is what I did and my cell drain is very low. Hope it helps.
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Which lte did you pick? There is 2 options. Also how do you get into recovery? Thanks
LTE/CDMA
I personally have noticed that turning off mobile data when connected to WiFi helps. I have done this with previous phones
I experienced this the other day after spending the weekend in an area with spotty service. To fix all I did was reboot the phone.
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UPDATE: For anyone interested, the fixes suggested in this thread seem to have done the trick for me. After changing settings and wiping cache I am getting even better battery life (7-8 hours of screen on time up from 5-6 in similar conditions). This could, of course, be due to other factors - but hey, it's worth a shot if your battery is draining quickly!
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Hey sorry but could you give a bit of a walkthrough for all the processes you took? Bit of a newbie here and my moto x force doesn't seem to be doing very well with the drain
Giving this a shot now...hopefully this works for me as well
Changing those settings helped immediately