I don't see any posts about returning to stock or stock recovery? I am wanting to root to Debloat cause this phone is not what it was the first month I have it.I want root but need a way to return to complete stock when marshmallow drops. Thanks in advance
podagee said:
I don't see any posts about returning to stock or stock recovery? I am wanting to root to Debloat cause this phone is not what it was the first month I have it.I want root but need a way to return to complete stock when marshmallow drops. Thanks in advance
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cant do it
can flash stock rom, but cant revert completely to stock
DSX2 said:
cant do it
can flash stock rom, but cant revert completely to stock
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Will I be able to restore stock recovery and be able to update ota? I know that knox will be tripped and not to worried about that.
podagee said:
Will I be able to restore stock recovery and be able to update ota? I know that knox will be tripped and not to worried about that.
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Im not entirely sure, OTA may be disabled after knox is tripped, but if that is the case you SHOULD be able to flash a stock rom through custom recovery / flash someones nandroid backup through twrp
DSX2 said:
Im not entirely sure, OTA may be disabled after knox is tripped, but if that is the case you SHOULD be able to flash a stock rom through custom recovery / flash someones nandroid backup through twrp
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Guess I'll just hang on till after the update of marshmallow. Hopefully they figure out a way to root without tripping knox,long shot but hope is alive
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So I've decided that root isn't for me I played around with it and had fun but if I want to return my phone or anything it will need to be unrooted. I can unrooted it and factory reset it just find but the only problem is that the damn custom boot animation will not go away at all. I've looked around in exposed and literally can not find out how to hide it, while still rooted ofc, and for the life life of me I can not find a link to download the stock boot animation. Can someone please either link me, or be kind enough to tell me how to hide the custom and padlock with exposed and once I unrooted my phone will it stay hidden ? Also if I just update from 4.3 to kitkat will that just solve the issue itself? Or will I be left with the custom boot logo and no way to fix it
After doing some digging and testing. It isn't the boot animation that is the problem it's the fact that the device is set to custom and not offical. I've tried many different methods to unroot and return to stock but they all have not worked. Is there any way to permanently return to official device status? I did the whole exposed fake thing but I'm wanting to completely unroot and return to stock and update to kitkat. Any help would be amazing thank you.
cynicalsinner91 said:
After doing some digging and testing. It isn't the boot animation that is the problem it's the fact that the device is set to custom and not offical. I've tried many different methods to unroot and return to stock but they all have not worked. Is there any way to permanently return to official device status? I did the whole exposed fake thing but I'm wanting to completely unroot and return to stock and update to kitkat. Any help would be amazing thank you.
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You can use odin to flash stock, but know will be tripped either way. Sam Mobile has all the firmwares.
bladehawk said:
You can use odin to flash stock, but know will be tripped either way. Sam Mobile has all the firmwares.
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So regardless of what i do if i update to kitkat it will trip knox? Is there anyway around that? And where on sammobile do I find the stock rom? I looked on there earlier and had no luck
cynicalsinner91 said:
So regardless of what i do if i update to kitkat it will trip knox? Is there anyway around that? And where on sammobile do I find the stock rom? I looked on there earlier and had no luck
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I believe you can flash Kit Kat from Sammobile without losing Knox, but I stopped caring and wanted a custom kernel so I can't say with 100% certainty. Once Knox is tripped, it stays tripped regardless.
I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.
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If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.
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Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers
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Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers
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Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
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EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.
radicalisto said:
Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
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EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.
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I see ... so -> flash stock (kills root) -> flash TWRP (trips knox) -> flash custom rom without worrying about root ? (wouldn't i need it for titanium backup ,or do custom roms come with SU preinstalled?)
Yep, used odin. file on comp, download mode, couple of ticks, clicky clicky, happiness ensues ...
Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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lol ...notorious for bricking samsung devices ... i like it ...
i ran one already (zipped a 6MB and a 14.5MB image and tar into a 300kb zip), and been told you can do that from inside TWRP as well ...
I'll take a deep breath, and start downloading the official image and roms ...
I'll update if i'll get to the other side
out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?
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out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?
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Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc
radicalisto said:
Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc
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Rubbish. ..I don't recall seeing an australian one... I'll have another look, otherwise ill look into the pit thingy. Thanks.
Hi guys,
I am currently using stock and rooted 4.4.2 firmware (international version) and I want to update my N9005 to official Lollipop, specifically this rom. Can I update it via Odin or do I have to get back to non-rooted stock 4.4.2 and then update to 5.0? Am I going to lose all my data with flashing this 5.0 rom?
Also, after updating, is it possible to root stock lollipop rom?
Thanks in advance guys!
Yes, sure you can flash that ROM in Odin, no need to go back to stock unrooted 4.4.2, doesn't matter if you are rooted or not currently, or even if you are using a custom ROM.
However I can't say whether upgrading will cause loss of data or not, I always wipe my phone before upgrading so I can't say that, sorry.
Yes, you can root Lollipop easily further.
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Hi guys,
I am currently using stock and rooted 4.4.2 firmware (international version) and I want to update my N9005 to official Lollipop, specifically this rom. Can I update it via Odin or do I have to get back to non-rooted stock 4.4.2 and then update to 5.0? Am I going to lose all my data with flashing this 5.0 rom?
Also, after updating, is it possible to root stock lollipop rom?
Thanks in advance guys!
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If you're rooted you can install a custom recovery like TWRP and do a nandroid backup in Recovery. Then later you can Restore data. Note Custom Recovery will most likely trip Knox so if you are still on 0x0 Warranty bit (check in Download Mode screen) you should probably rely on Titanium Backup or similar to back up all your user apps and data to extSDCard.
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If you're rooted you can install a custom recovery like TWRP and do a nandroid backup in Recovery. Then later you can Restore data. Note Custom Recovery will most likely trip Knox so if you are still on 0x0 Warranty bit (check in Download Mode screen) you should probably rely on Titanium Backup or similar to back up all your user apps and data to extSDCard.
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Thanks guys, appreciate it! Can you please send me a link to the custom recovery which is by your opinion the best, I suppose TWRP? And also, if you can, send me a tutorial for rooting the lollipop. Thanks!
markos807 said:
Thanks guys, appreciate it! Can you please send me a link to the custom recovery which is by your opinion the best, I suppose TWRP? And also, if you can, send me a tutorial for rooting the lollipop. Thanks!
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The Team Win project thread is in the Original Android Development forums - go here and read up on it before you try. Note the up to date versions are in the techerrata mirror link.
LP root guide - you will need to do a search - not something I've had to look for - it was JB when I rooted my phone.
At first try I've failed in Odin with flashing this rom, and I've tried to do it again and strangely it succeeded. Android L looks and feels great and very smooth, thanks guys for your help! Also, all of my data stayed where they were before flashing, so that's another plus for this flashing.
A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
skivnit said:
How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F
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Lol
I believe you still can update your phone legibly through smart switch
or kies if you using older samsung device
So basically your saying its like it has been from the beginning? Say it aint so!!!
tusing said:
A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
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You need stock kernel briski
Odin
Stock kernel and stock recovery should be enough. Or flash the same ROM as you have on top on your current throught Odin, update and re-root. But I'm not sure that root is already available to 5.1.1
This apply to any brand root phone. No OTA will work with root phone, some more you in custom kernel.
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Mine was fine with OTA after rooting, if you have an issue then just flash stock recovery back and you will be good to go and still have root!
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I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
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Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
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Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Aha well the previous comment someone seems to have an ota with root no problems anyways..
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Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
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Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
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Lot of conflicting info in this thread. I'm confused.
From what I understand, the latest Firmware update/OTA (OCF build, I am sprint) fixed the deep sleep issue. So if you have that build and applied root, you should still be good, right?
An if you apply root, you cant take an OTA because it modifies recovery. But you are saying if you root, then re-flash stock recovery, you maintain root and can still receive and OTA. Can someone confirm all this as accurate?
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Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
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You can get it from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
I've had a quick just around but can't find any info on the negatives of rooting the s6. What functionalities do you loose by rooting this phone even if you install a modified Samsung rom? I didn't get the z3 because once rooted you lost digital rights to the hi def audio and camera processing
Is there a stock rom out there, where everything is worling. Like samsung health and such.
and with stock, i mean like. Just like to boot the phone for the first time.
Shuuin said:
and with stock, i mean like. Just like to boot the phone for the first time.
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Sorry, I don´t get it. When you boot up an unmodified StockRom everything is working out of the box. Do you mean a Custom Rom based on stock with SamsungPay etc. working? Please elaborate.
you want to sell the phone and have already tripped knox?
if so, the answer is no. s-health, samsung pay etc all require knox 0x0 to work on an unmodified rom. i had the same problem.
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Sorry, I don´t get it. When you boot up an unmodified StockRom everything is working out of the box. Do you mean a Custom Rom based on stock with SamsungPay etc. working? Please elaborate.
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Yes, i'm going to sell this to my brother and he do not care about the know thingy. But he wants stock rom
Shuuin said:
Yes, i'm going to sell this to my brother and he do not care about the know thingy. But he wants stock rom
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If knox is tripped you won't be able to use Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Secure Folder etc. even if you flash a stock firmware image.
If you flash a custom rom the device will not be able receive OTA updates.
Unfortunately there aren't any fixes for tripping KNOX.
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If knox is tripped you won't be able to use Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Secure Folder etc. even if you flash a stock firmware image.
If you flash a custom rom the device will not be able receive OTA updates.
Unfortunately there aren't any fixes for tripping KNOX.
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hmm, then a stock like rom would be the thing to go with?
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hmm, then a stock like rom would be the thing to go with?
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You could flash an official Samsung Rom and get automatic OTA Updates, or flash a custom Stock Rom (Batman Rom, Renovate Ice etc.) and get some extra features, but your brother would have to update manually.
In both cases everything knox related will not work.
Flashing a offcial Rom via Odin is probably the easiest solution.