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Android Lollipop 5.0.2 Bugs / Troubles / Grievances / Features

So Official Rollout Start Hope Eeveryone is now on Lollipop 5.0.2 :highfive:​
It's a Request Guys Please Post Bugs Here.​​
Some Common Bugs List/New Features/More:
1.Swipe down from status bar
Click on users icon... And click more settings... Enjoy the lag...
2. Open app drawer (newer google now launcher)
Click on home button
Enjoy microstutters...
3. Go to settings
Click on any title..
The animation that seems to come from lower part of screen towards center also lags for the first time...
4. One of the major hits was that switching data on now requires at least 4 touches...yes i know aosp has it like this but...Moto being an oem could have made it simpler... For someone like me who toggles data several times a day, this is hectic.
One thing again moto failed to do was to remove the drop down quick setting when a secured lock screen is used. How the hell it is secure when any one can swtich off the data and swtich on air plane mode or even use my phone as a wifi hotspot..
5. wifi battery drain is present wid build 5.0.2. Battery is draining even when all the wifi toggles are off (including scanning while sleep) .. Have seen this on my nexus 5 too.... U can thank google for this and motorola for not patching it..
6. net is switched on and working but it is not accompanied by E/H icon near the signal icon ... This bug is random and just showed up on my device.
7. When I put adaptive brightness at its lowest then screen start flickering.
8. Lag in dialer specially while seeing recent call logs/call history.
9. Animation & UI Lag
Credit: @doctor_droid

Is dialler lag still here on final lollipop for xt1033 users? http://youtu.be/cZfSrRihrUk

You copied and pasted this from @doctor_droid's post, with no credit to him.

Battery Drain fast and UI is laggy.

Apart from the ones listed, the widget bug is a problem of the google app update and not the whole system update.
The guest mode lags a lot.
Under data usage stats, 2010 and other system apps come up without names.
Smooth but a little slow.

I'm facing these bugs on my XT1033 :
1. When I put adaptive brightness at its lowest then screen start flickering.
2. Lag in dialer specially while seeing recent call logs/call history.
3. Some common bugs which every lollipop user is facing like even after clearing recent apps some random apps start appearing there e. g. android system
but I'm not facing any bug as mentioned above expect power toggles on secure lock screen and that 6th bug.
Now if I talk about Improvements then
1st : Improved battery life, about 1 hour of extra screen on time earlier on kitkat 4.4.4 I was getting 3 Hours and 30 minutes of screen on time with full 24 h (screen on time+stand by time) of usage.
2nd : improved ram management about 400+ mb of ram are always free earlier on kitkat 4.4.4 it was 200-300 mb.
3rd: UI is now more fluid and smooth it's faster than ever and even more improved multitasking.
I updated my phone manually.
Thanks
and one more thing my English is not that good so you may find some bugs there too

After update there is a notification which says update google play services but when i try to update it on playstore it says no update.what to do?
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app

Archies said:
1.Swipe down from status bar
Click on users icon... And click more settings... Enjoy the lag...
2. Open app drawer (newer google now launcher)
Click on home button
Enjoy microstutters...
3. Go to settings
Click on any title..
The animation that seems to come from lower part of screen towards center also lags for the first time...
5. wifi battery drain is present wid build 5.0.2. Battery is draining even when all the wifi toggles are off (including scanning while sleep) .. Have seen this on my nexus 5 too.... U can thank google for this and motorola for not patching it..
6. net is switched on and working but it is not accompanied by E/H icon near the signal icon ... This bug is random and just showed up on my device.
Credit: @doctor_droid​
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All these bugs you mentioned are not present in my phone and 3 other Moto G that was updated to Lollipop recently.
Wi-Fi usage is not even showing up on the battery list and its always on. There is no such Wi-Fi battery drain here on 4 Moto G devices.
E and H icons are always visible in the status bar. It seems a very limited random bug on few devices.
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People cried for Lollipop since Motorola announced it for Moto G and now they are crying for potential bugs. Priceless!!!​

i have issue with battery doctore widget in 5.0.2. previous versions works fine with this widget. when i turn on data it is not actually turned data connection for mobile networks. Every time i have to go data usuage and turn on data connection.

How many of you factory reset and wiped cache after the update? If you haven't done it try it. Then post bugs.....
Sent from my XT1023

Add: Lag on switching WiFi on.

Archies said:
do Wipe cache.
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How?
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app

Archies said:
i did factory reset.
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I'm gonna give em more time to get this stuff straightened out before I update.
Sent from my XT1023

OTA
Should i relock bootloader because system notice software is up to date ?
i stay at 4.4.4

Bit off topic but I'm trying to get the update but the previously i had installed the Soak Test which came 3-4 days back and now it keeps prompting the update is ready but it keeps failing would this work since the file size are same,

Archies said:
3. Go to settings
Click on any title..
The animation that seems to come from lower part of screen towards center also lags for the first time.
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Oh, this. I thought nobody else noticed the animation stuttering (also happening in the GPE).
Lollipop animations are cool, but not when they lag/stutter.
I hope there's a solution for this.

t4n017 said:
Oh, this. I thought nobody else noticed the animation stuttering (also happening in the GPE).
Lollipop animations are cool, but not when they lag/stutter.
I hope there's a solution for this.
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animations are lagging sometimes in 4.4.4 too. I think it's just the device cpu is a bit slow.

battery
charging takes more time than normal.
animations are snappy in cm12 but not in stock lollipop.
screen on times have increased but...standby has decreased....

guys, if you are having problems using wireless hotspot on moto G,
1.Use it without a password
2. Get it to connect with PC
3. after it connects, try it out (should work)
4. Disconnect
5. create password for the hotspot - IMPORTANT - The password must be at least 10 characters and must be a combination of letters and numbers
6. try it out.
When I created the hotspot using passwords that did not have letters and numbers, it wouldn't connect.
try it out and give out responses because I heard some people could not use wireless hotspot.
one of the requirements for WPA S2 password is the letter and number combo.
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I flashed the flashable stock 5.0.2 rom and have been getting awesome battery life and performance. Maybe its because the bloat's gone.
You guys should try it out

I found bug..
when I try to activated battery saving, the color of status bar and navigation bar, become orange .. although I set it when it reach 15% left , while my battery still 80% left

Battery app auto optimise

Got the COI9 update a few days ago and today he a notification leading to disable auto kill type tool.

Which varient
Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

Not sure if it works like Greenify but my S6E is definitely smoother and last longer.

It appears to be an add on to the Smart Manager under the battery section

Agreed definitely smoother and quicker

Possibly a move towards Marshmallow as read today Google want everyone to be able to map battery usage by app or hardware

Few more screen shots is a disable, auto clean and the a frequency option

Anyone know how to get rid of the notification? I have enabled auto optimize, but every day I get the notification that my phone can auto optimize apps. Kinda annoying.

Press for a few seconds at the notification then tap app info and uncheck the show notifications.

Definitely, my Edge works as a champion until night, this is a great update!
Enviado desde mi SM-G925F mediante Tapatalk

POWER1FM said:
Press for a few seconds at the notification then tap app info and uncheck the show notifications.
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Yeah wish it was that simple. Samsung made sure to remove that possibility from this app.
You know what, the more I use samsung phones, the more annoyed I get with them, cause they pull stupid **** like this. A few updates ago it was the weather app nagging with notifications, and when they fixed that, they just introduce another silly app to do the same stuff.
I'm done.

The "Always Power Saving" mode comes out to be the life saver to my phone
I saw a drastic change in it's battery life! Actually it works like a task-killer and since it's integrated with the system, we don't need to root our devices and install Greenify at all Thanks Samsung for understanding the needs of average consumers!
See the drastic change here:

I have to agree! My phone is alot smoother too after this update

techsammy said:
The "Always Power Saving" mode comes out to be the life saver to my phone
I saw a drastic change in it's battery life! Actually it works like a task-killer and since it's integrated with the system, we don't need to root our devices and install Greenify at all Thanks Samsung for understanding the needs of average consumers!
See the drastic change here:
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Is this on COI9?
Do you have anything else disabled?

blackdeath09 said:
Is this on COI9?
Do you have anything else disabled?
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Probably everything. If you see the screenshot the device is in air plane mode....

ChypherG said:
Probably everything. If you see the screenshot the device is in air plane mode....
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FYI, one of my friend was constantly calling me at that time and making me difficult to take the screenshots so I had to turn it on for a couple of seconds

blackdeath09 said:
Is this on COI9?
Do you have anything else disabled?
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techsammy said:
FYI, one of my friend was constantly calling me at that time and making me difficult to take the screenshots so I had to turn it on for a couple of seconds
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:good:

techsammy said:
FYI, one of my friend was constantly calling me at that time and making me difficult to take the screenshots so I had to turn it on for a couple of seconds
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Probably everything. If you see the screenshot the device is in air plane mode....
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I was asking because on my edge, on COI9 it doesn't say "always battery saving" but rather "always optimize" and I don't get standby times that great. I thought that since there is a new firmware available Samsung changed something in the algorithm, hence the name change and techsammy was on the new one, hence the much better standby times (and maybe has something disabled that does wonders)

Ι have huge battery drain since yesterday with COI9....
Ιts getting better after a few days.

My battery drine in five cicle charge .coi9
Any solution

Downgrading, Upgrading, Disaster, But a beautiful phone. And Some Crazy Questions...

DOWNGRADING TO LOLLIPOP:: --- B151 from B331
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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THX @skeppley
THX @Demian3112
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Figured the above was an important surprise for some of you... OP still valid
Hello Everyone! Im new to the whole Honor 5x thing, coming from an m8 now, and before that a nexus 6, and before that a z3 then before that an S4 and before that an HTC Evo 4G LTE... Along with some minors, LG Risio, Moto E, S5...
Im just happy to say that so far I really enjoy this phone! Within the first few days of using it on Lolipop, i was getting 1d 15h type battery life which if youve looked at the phones ive mentioned so far... Really..really..wasnt what I was used to. A Day? For sure, the htc would be at 18% getting back on the charger... and it would die at 10%... with how long id had it. But... A Day was doable.
Ive been looking for a phone for SOOooOOO long now that had good enough battery to last a day at max brightness... Tweaking kernels, and Installing various ROMS (all of them per device)... Crack Flashing, as some would say. It just became a hobby... Ive noticed many weird things about the community, to those reading... let me list them now...
1. People all of the sudden(within the last 2 years?) prefer stock android over anything, regardless of what additional features are being added... Such as battery life improvements, Multitasking improvements, theme improvements, usability improvements... People like stock android... hmmm?
2. People want to be nexus so bad they will theme other UI's to death, just to make it look like stock, generic android... hmm..
3. Battery life, while a common complaint, seems to be indifferent to how frequently people update their phones.. (note: Marshmellow EMUI has a multi core battery bug, listed on XDA under mods..) or what ROM they choose (note the most popular rom being one with significantly worse battery life than stock)
4. Security improvements are completely unnecessary to the community (note the most popular rom being one that hardly supports the fingerprint sensor)
5. No matter how many bugs (even those listed in OP) people will always flock to the latest update of android. And then subtly complain to the developer about the bugs they already know about..
Such a strange mixture of people...to be sure.
However what ive noticed here, is a complete lack of readily available information, so i am hoping some of you might be able to assist me.
TL;DR
So I succeeded in downgrading my phone from MM to LP, as the battery life thing is a legit problem for me, as much as it may not be for other people. However the fingerprint sensor has been disabled, and no longer exists in the settings list... nor is it part of the startup. (confusing to be sure, you would think it would be there, and just FC when clicking on it were there to be a bug, or if the OS didnt detect the sensor or something... it should still be there yeah? If i understand how it works...
Also I cant seem to flash a B151 rom at all, being on B33...3? <- marshmellow... and im assuming at this point that means i wasnt supposed to be able to downgrade... (oops)
So i got TWRP installed (whats up with all the random errors twrp is throwing? Assuming thats normal...?) and am awaiting a BMarshmellow rom to finish... Which leads me to...
Where are the Emui ROMS? Unless its closed... but if this rom maker can do it... ?
and also, is the fix to the battery life on marshmello noticable to those of you who also care about battery life at all?

Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..

Demian3112 said:
Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..
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Well there is a fix for it in the mods section that fixes battery. Finally got this phone back to functional lol..
Anyway, the fix for the moment anyway looks like it works, just has to be redone every reboot but really isn't that hard. After applying mincores mincpu 0 the big cores only light up when necessary. So far its helping a lot with battery life at least noticeably. Listented to music the whole way to work this morning and was still at 97% when I got there (I have an hour drive) , and that's using Youtube Music over 4g.. Not too shabby.
Yesterday I got to work doing the same thing on marshmallow at about 85-90 so it is doing something, and watching Kernel Auditor shows the big cores turning off when not in use. Worth checking out, applying the settings that are mentioned there don't do much im afraid, as I cant get them to stick through a reboot yet.
Currently writing an init.d script to make that happen every boot.
For now to my knowledge though it is working. Though I think lollipop was for sure better apps on screen off actually worked properly -_-; which im noticing more and more it doesn't anymore. Its more like a Doze control which is annoying because Doze is not near as good as stock lollipop control. I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know!
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I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know! Id much rather downgrade than continue to fix marshmallow.
Though for those of you wondering, Viper|Atmos//Sony Beats the audio mod works perfectly on this phone

Just finished Init.d for Mincpus to fix the whole Big Little problem Super good stuff. Phone now booting in the big little mode you were talking about. super easy stuff.

Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware

I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.

skeppley said:
I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.
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U need the firmware had same.. revert though dload

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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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@Demian3112
So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.

You should try CyanogenMod 13: excellent battery life, USB OTG and gyro working, much better CPU & RAM management...
FP reader is working, but you must upgrade to MM first (to update trust zone and radio firmwares).

igotlostintampa said:
@Demian3112
So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.

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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.
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Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on your bed at night? And then never again?
As for CM13, im fairly apathetic to the topic... Not to be annoying, or rude, but ive heard the excellent battery life claim a million times about stock android, and while ive noticed its improvements over something like...say, Sense, or Touchwiz... Ive never seen it beat the z3's battery saving tool (before marshmallow), or as of the day I got this phone, Huaweis non-debloated lollipop.
Ive never seen a phone still be at 30-40%, at the end of work, the day after the day I charged. Until this phone. The Z3 would make it a little past lunch if I barely used it on day 2, but this phone played pokemon go for 2 hours the day I charged it, I spent the day listening to streaming music, browsing for various small things, watching a few youtube videos, a little navigation... And it had 40% when I left work the next day lol at 100% auto brightness. Id love to see some screen on vs idle drain comparisons between this phones CM13 and Stock, at that point, ill believe a battery claim.
It played pokemon go at 60fps and the game is a known battery/gpu hog (s7 plays slower than this phone, likely due to lack of gyroscope?)
other than some various laggy UI glitches, the phone was pretty much what id been looking for (I Prefer Miui over stock android, this phone is similar)

igotlostintampa said:
Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on yuur bed at night? And then never again?
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What buildnumber and Custom version/Cust do you have? Might be able to link you the right firmware.. twrp backup doesnt backup firmware that explains that you dont have a finger print, is the H from Honor at boot logo Red also?

I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.

skeppley said:
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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Your Reply has been added to the OP for those concerned with Downgrading. Figured it might be nice to stumble upon the directions that, after reading many posts throughout the various roms, many people might actually be looking for. Will likely try this tonight when I get home, battery is much better with the battery fix, but not as good as lolipop

Great.
Hope to help others that were stuck the same way

@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended

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@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended
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Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.

igotlostintampa said:
Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.
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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!

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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!
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Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!

igotlostintampa said:
Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!
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Im using Force doze app.. U can whitelist apps and as soon as you turnoff your screen it starts doze... You wont get notifications from apps you didnt whitelist until you turn it back on

FreeMy experience with Nougat!

EDIT: (!) WiFi and mobile network periodically die!?! ... Oh dear .... AND poor Wifi reception!! Keeps disconnecting me.
Performance; Same as before, if not better.
Camera; New manual settings (shutter speed, focus etc) are awesome
Xloud; definitely makes the audio louder
Battery; remains to be seen
Multitasking; it's works and is cool, can be a bit glitchy
Other thoughts;
- I don't like how you don't have direct access in quick settings to enable / disable wifi or mobile data. You have to go through a second menu to access the toggle switch.
- I don't like that there is no built in night mode
- I wish there wasn't a constant data saver icon
+ I like that there is a move apps option in the transfer to SD card section.
+ More free storage !!
+ VoLTE works (for me at least)
+ Redesigned system apps look good
+ Sliding down the notification shade is no longer difficult (due to disabled animations) in stamina mode
+ May security patch

William1020000 said:
EDIT: (!) WiFi and mobile network periodically die!?! ... Oh dear .... AND poor Wifi reception!! Keeps disconnecting me.
Performance; Same as before, if not better.
Camera; New manual settings (shutter speed, focus etc) are awesome
Xloud; definitely makes the audio louder
Battery; remains to be seen
Multitasking; it's works and is cool, can be a bit glitchy
Other thoughts;
- I don't like how you don't have direct access in quick settings to enable / disable wifi or mobile data. You have to go through a second menu to access the toggle switch.
- I don't like that there is no built in night mode
- I wish there wasn't a constant data saver icon
+ I like that there is a move apps option in the transfer to SD card section.
+ More free storage !!
+ VoLTE works (for me at least)
+ Redesigned system apps look good
+ Sliding down the notification shade is no longer difficult (due to disabled animations) in stamina mode
+ June security patch
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Which region support VoLte, I'm in india it is possible to flash different region rom to my device.
Since i don't get VoLte update for my region. My device is f3116

sumitha shankar said:
Which region support VoLte, I'm in india it is possible to flash different region rom to my device.
Since i don't get VoLte update for my region. My device is f3116
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I'm in the UK on F3111. Did you try dialling *#*#4636#*#* and enabling it under phone information?

William1020000 said:
I'm in the UK on F3111. Did you try dialling *#*#4636#*#* and enabling it under phone information?
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Yes i've tried that, but automatically its turn off

sumitha shankar said:
Yes i've tried that, but automatically its turn off
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You could download the UK XA dual firmware and only flash the modem?

William1020000 said:
You could download the UK XA dual firmware and only flash the modem?
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I have indian version of firmware. Ill try flashing uk version, how to flash only modem

My battery life is way better than before. I sometimes don't even charge it overnight when I didn't use my phone a lot (in other words: stand by time significantly improved for me). Average cycle indicated by gsam is 1d10h .
XLoud is good to have, although I think it makes the sound quality worse and the lowest volume level way too loud.
About night mode, I think it is built-in but just hidden. In other words, I think you need to use an app just to access the settings, but the actual implementation is built in.
On the subject of wifi quick settings: I works in two steps now. First a small bar is drawn, in which you can toggle, then the full quick settings which give access to the more complex wifi menu and other quick settings. I'm not really a fan either, but I guess that'll change once I trained myself to use the small bar for quick toggling.

KoenGo said:
My battery life is way better than before. I sometimes don't even charge it overnight when I didn't use my phone a lot (in other words: stand by time significantly improved for me). Average cycle indicated by gsam is 1d10h .
XLoud is good to have, although I think it makes the sound quality worse and the lowest volume level way too loud.
About night mode, I think it is built-in but just hidden. In other words, I think you need to use an app just to access the settings, but the actual implementation is built in.
On the subject of wifi quick settings: I works in two steps now. First a small bar is drawn, in which you can toggle, then the full quick settings which give access to the more complex wifi menu and other quick settings. I'm not really a fan either, but I guess that'll change once I trained myself to use the small bar for quick toggling.
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Oh thanks. Didn't realise you could toggle WiFi in the small bar. Does your phone randomly completely freeze after Nougat and even holding the power button does nothing?

William1020000 said:
Oh thanks. Didn't realise you could toggle WiFi in the small bar. Does your phone randomly completely freeze after Nougat and even holding the power button does nothing?
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Nope, no freezes on my F3111 running ....127

June security patch? 33.3.A.0.131 has the May security patch. Where did you get june from?

Mine has the May patch, as for the night mode, I think there are apps on the playstore that can enable it.
I've noticed that Swiftkey now cannot even be disabled and Bravia engine is gone, the setting is now called Image Enhancement. They gave us xLoud but took away Bravia Engine.
What is Sony thinking by replacing all their good apps with commercial versions.

I went back to Oreo on my Pixel 2 and here is why...

1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! (Videos play in split screen too!)
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (although this can be solved with an adb command, the whole concept is still a downgrade.
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution.
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!

What adb command and what does it do?

You went from P to Oreo ? I thought you could not downgrade anymore ?

mikeprius said:
You went from P to Oreo ? I thought you could not downgrade anymore ?
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you sure can, unlock your bootloader and install the latest 8.1 Factory Image from July, then relock your bootloader boot up and disable automatic system updates in developer options and hide the OTA notification by long pressing it.

Danvdh said:
you sure can, unlock your bootloader and install the latest 8.1 Factory Image from July, then relock your bootloader boot up and disable automatic system updates in developer options and hide the OTA notification by long pressing it.
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Oh ok interesting. Maybe I was thinking you cannot downgrade from O back to N. I thought google made changes where you cannot downgrade due to security patches or something.

Oreo just has an overall more consistent experience and mature interface.

I never left Oreo for many of the reasons you listed, after researching Pie a bit.
We're stuck in this kinda bad phase of phones right now: manufacturers are removing hardware features to encourage/require additional accessory purchases and forcing obsolescence (or ~$80 for battery replacements), plus new software seems in a lot of ways to be regressing. I mean, if you have a Kit Kat device laying around, boot it up and I swear you'll wonder what the heck has "improved" since that. Imagine a Kit Kat style firmware running on today's fast RAM and processors, with hardware features - removable battery, sd card slot, headphone jack. Excuse me while I wipe up my drool.
I'm sure there are people that want AI and all that jazz, but I also bet there are plenty of us who want a stable, long-lasting dependable phone, and there just aren't many options for that anymore.

mamarcac said:
I never left Oreo for many of the reasons you listed, after researching Pie a bit.
We're stuck in this kinda bad phase of phones right now: manufacturers are removing hardware features to encourage/require additional accessory purchases and forcing obsolescence (or ~$80 for battery replacements), plus new software seems in a lot of ways to be regressing. I mean, if you have a Kit Kat device laying around, boot it up and I swear you'll wonder what the heck has "improved" since that. Imagine a Kit Kat style firmware running on today's fast RAM and processors, with hardware features - removable battery, sd card slot, headphone jack. Excuse me while I wipe up my drool.
I'm sure there are people that want AI and all that jazz, but I also bet there are plenty of us who want a stable, long-lasting dependable phone, and there just aren't many options for that anymore.
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Its hilarious that you mention that
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353
I still use kit kat everyday my friend. Long live ticker notifications

Danvdh said:
Its hilarious that you mention that
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353
I still use kit kat everyday my friend. Long live ticker notifications
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HAHAHA that is too good, I had the S3 but not S4 so had no idea about your project. Now I kinda want to go find an S4... :highfive:

Danvdh said:
Its hilarious that you mention that
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353
I still use kit kat everyday my friend. Long live ticker notifications
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Ticker notifications are the best, and can get improved, there is an app in PS if you want them back.

Couldn't agree more with you guys. Pie is just terrible. I'm so happy to be back to oreo. Unlocked bootloader, back to oreo, relocked bootloader and turned off updates. No need to root, I couldn't get better than this and if I did root I'd lose Google pay which is awesome. No need for xda for a long time. Bye bye!

I admit that the battery was worse on the initial roll out of Pie. But I've stuck with it and this is my battery right now in the November update. I don't have or play any games on my phone though. I'm happy with it.

Forgot this screen shot.

Will my IMEI be safe if I downgrade?

NaChal said:
Will my IMEI be safe if I downgrade?
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Yes.
This is not a Samsung device where a minor mistake when modifying your device could screw up your IMEI number..

kotton666 said:
Couldn't agree more with you guys. Pie is just terrible. I'm so happy to be back to oreo. Unlocked bootloader, back to oreo, relocked bootloader and turned off updates. No need to root, I couldn't get better than this and if I did root I'd lose Google pay which is awesome. No need for xda for a long time. Bye bye!
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you can have the best of both worlds. root + unlocked bootloader + still use (most) apps like google pay that otherwise detect such things. all you need is magisk and to flash a custom kernel that disabled the bootloader check (i use flash kernel)

Danvdh said:
Its hilarious that you mention that
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353
I still use kit kat everyday my friend. Long live ticker notifications
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Thanks for your ROM it was probably my most favorite S4 one.

Also went back to 8.1. Only thing I really miss is the smart rotation option in the dock. What makes it worse is there is a bug in 8.1 where if you enable rotation via quick settings, rotate the device to landscape, rotate back to portrait, then attempt to turn off rotation via quick settings again, the first touch input does not actually toggle the setting, need to press again.
My other observations: Fingerprint sensor seems a little slower, charging sound toggle does nothing (known issue).

Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! (Videos play in split screen too!)
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (although this can be solved with an adb command, the whole concept is still a downgrade.
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution.
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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1) For me it's much preferred, I can always easily control media volume, which I do 9 out of 10 times, personally. I know that You might want to change the ringer to adapt to situation, but it's obnoxious to do it every time, why not leave it on an average setting or turn on vibrate mode for silent, for once a Android phone has a decent haptic feedback.
2) Go buy a Samsung, if You want "unprofessional". In real world it's called simple and intuitive, and Google IMO seems to be doing this even better than Apple ever did.
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6) Faster, yeah, but more fiddly, I found the new system more calming and it requires less tapping, and transition between apps and scrolling seemed smoother. But it's not perfect by no means.
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9) Can't disagree with this one

agreed 100%. My battery life is so much better now that i'm back on oreo than i was on pie. on pie i had to charge 3 times a day when prior to the 9.0 update, i'd easily make it 24 hours no problem. i lost over an hour of screen on time. was pathetic. i'm done with pixels after this phone honestly; google is such garbage now. also incredibly ridiculous i need to run a modded APK to get night sight on oreo because they won't rollout the new apk to oreo when it's clearly all software that was available on oreo. i'm staying on 8.1 until i get a new phone, and with all the BS bugs of 9.0, i'm def not looking forward to 9.0 touchwiz on my work note 8.