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[Q] Need advice , Which Note should I buy? Tad urgent

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I've been debating with my self whether or not I should jump in and buy the note 10.1 2014 edition, but in my fact finding efforts certain questions arose ( with a lot of confusion)
1 Will HMP be available to the Exynos 5420 ? I keep finding information that goes both ways...yes...no...maybe
2 Does a root solution exist ( or is in works) that won't void warranty? (knox issues??)
3 Snapdragon or Exynos ( this brings me back to the HMP question!! IF HMP = yes well then Exynos, but...if not...?)
4 Any drawbacks when compared to comparable gen tablets? Lack of features, performance issues , instability etc?
I'm not doubting whether or not I want a pen enabled tablet, but with the new Nvidia pen enabled tablets in the works, samsung is losing it's unique position.
Now I know there are tons of posts all over the place that in essence answer a lot of the same points, but many of the threads go a bit back and forth and often misinformed on key issues...
Like Developer support for and against the Exynos vs Snapdragon etc And HMP support?
Now there is a small ticking clock attached to these questions, I've been offered a 17.5 % discount on the note ( LTE or wifi edition , my choice) But it expires on wednesday (30.okt)
Thanks in advance!!!
Cheers lads!

Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.

mi7chy said:
Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.
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But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?

DeBoX said:
But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?
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Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Yeah l heard that snapdragon is 20 + % faster gpu. So there's that
But I can't help wonder how HMP (if it's going to be available to the note) would impact the performance of both gpu and cpu (I know that I'm a bit of a broken record)
Didn't know about the root, good to know, but there isn't one ready for the note yet...?
Anyone done a battery comparison between the two SoC ?
Anyone found articles on HMP and note? Looking for solid proof

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo

DeBoX said:
Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo
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As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.

VaggD said:
As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.
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8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...

DeBoX said:
8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...
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Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.

VaggD said:
Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.
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I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)

DeBoX said:
I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)
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No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.

VaggD said:
No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.
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That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?

DeBoX said:
That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?
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Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?

VaggD said:
Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?
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If I've understood it properly, the OS takes about 4-5 gigs ( note that's the OS and the apps that come with it etc) , so in essence you should have something like 10-12 gig of user available space.
I'de say go for the 32 gig variant.
Yes, you can always add micro SD cards etc, but most apps still don't like moving to ext storage, and in most cases they don't move all of the content but just part of it.
I won't be gaming a lot, but a few games that I do like , GTA 3 and GTA vice city er about 2 gig each ( give or take) so there goes the space, some documents here and there, and apps, and so on and so on...
Anyone know of any difference in lag between the Snapdragon and Exynos versions?

[Q] Help Plz...........N9005(Snapdragon 800) or N9000(Exynos 5420)?

Hey guys finally the day has come when i will upgrade to a new smartphone and luckily as i am not short on budget i have decided to buy Galaxy Note 3 which i think is the best Android smartphone nowadays......the problem is that in my country both versions are available and i am not sure which version is better so thought what place would be better than XDA to ask this question......i hope you guys will help me in taking the right decision.
Btw N9000($605) is about 30 usd cheaper than N9005($635) which though doesn't matter but i thought i should share this as well with you guys.
(Both are 32 gb variants)
Regards..!!!

Just watch the N9005, trick little prick if the service provider you're using is on bands 7/17, however the 9005 is a little better hardware wise! I personally don't think you'll noticed the difference!

Go 9005.
Firstly, Exynos only excels more in graphics department and its barely any better then what Snapdragon offers. Also the SD model is more widely available & the carrier choice due to FDD-LTE, Which means better longterm rom support between the two models.

N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM

vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?

SK_007 said:
Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?
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Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.

vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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vndnguyen said:
Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.
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I see but thanks anyway i wasn't aware of this!

But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?

PatienceWithin said:
But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?
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n900 exynos doesn't support 4g LTE, hardware issue.

dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....

N900 is Exynos Variant which means the processor is developed by Samsung. The N9005 is Snapdragon Variant which means the processor is developed by Qualcomm. Overall I would prefer the Snapdragon 800 Variant as performance is much more excellent than Samsung's own Exynos.
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linx1287 said:
dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....
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The last line can be a deal breaker in favor of N9005 as it would be very difficult for me to go for the variant which has considerably less developer support.......so as of now i am leaning towards N9005!

Btw i read somewhere that Samsung might release a patch which will enable all the 8 cores on N9000......is this true can anyone please confirm this?

Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.

aydc said:
Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.
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And i thought that due to those 4 power saving A7 cores N9000 will have the better battery life lol...........thanks mate for telling me about battery life coz this is one of the primary things which i look for when choosing a smartphone..!!!

On my personal usage I had both snapdragon and exynos and eventually end up with keeping exynos for myself and gave snapdragon to my sis as exynos felt a bit snappier overall to me but in few games snapdragon had a slight advantage but the exynos was no less in some games exynos was better, and yes battery sucks with latest firmware update was excellent before so you can expect battery to be fixed with updates and if you have LTE in your country go with snapdragon, exynos makes no sense if you got LTE in your region and better development also goes to snapdragon, also today Samsung might announce something about their exynos processor @Ces and my guess is they will release the hmp which enables all 8 cores, though nothing sure keep an eye, so decide what you need, but in terms of performance pick either of them you wouldn't regret

sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3

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I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.

linx1287 said:
sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3
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Go and have a [email protected] on Twitter, and you'll find something as #UnlockExynos which as assumed can be related to HMP, also if there's no HMP I wouldn't really care, I find the 5420 still great, and yeah galaxy s4 5410 that was a serious fail, I threw it out in 2 days of usage coz that 5410 processor was such a bullshi* but that isn't the case with 5420 but still it's own preference and way to think which is good or bad.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php there mate....that unlockexynos thing that you speak of is probably the processor teaser for S5 which could be 64bit processor.....& S4 octa processor is the absolute pits.....the note 3's octa is a slight improvement...but i would still say the snapdragon is a better overall package....& thus a slightly better choice
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denski101 said:
I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.
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sorry mate...but you may have gotten a faulty unit...as my snapdragon barely ever gets hot.....i played real racing 3, gt racing 2 & asphalt 8 nonstop with 100% battery until i drained it to 0% & the phone barely got warm....& as for battery life.....the snapdragon is quite a bit ahead of the exynos...i have 1 in the house so i can tell....also the performance difference may be negligible but its still visible...atleast to me

Exynos or Snapdragon? Which is better?

Hai guys,
I want to buy Samsung GALAXY Note 3. Im coming from S3 (with Exynos processor). I want to know which version is better? Exynos or Snapdragon? Samsung sellers say that Exynos is much better than Snapdragon, but from all other medias, such as internet and youtube, say Snapdragon is better. So im confused.. Please tell me the truth. Hope you will help me...
Thanks

Snapdragon
Buy the snapdragon one .
If u love custom roms and rooting stuff which I think you love ......
Otherwise you would be well off with either of them..

Ayushsinghal said:
Buy the snapdragon one .
If u love custom roms and rooting stuff which I think you love ......
Otherwise you would be well off with either of them..
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Thanks mate. How about the performance? Incase of laggy, or something like problems..?

Haven't had a Exynos device, but never had a problem with Snapdragon. Awesome processors.
HTC Fireball, Unlocked, S-OFF, CM11, Android 4.4.4 KitKat

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Thanks mate. How about the performance? Incase of laggy, or something like problems..?
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Performance is smooth. Apps load up quick... Ram usage about 1.7 GB out of 2.3 GB even in the heavy load scenario..... Even the mighty touchwiz can't slow it down ....
Personally I have the Exynos one and I am crying because it has no custom rom...:crying:

What i've read, does Snapdragon version have some fast charging that Exynos doesn't, so you'll charge your phone a lot faster? At least my Snapdragon device really charges very fast with stock charger. Also what i've seen, Exynos development is much slower than Snapdragon on Sammy's phones / tablets.
And again, what I have read from the web, Exynos devices have had problems that Snapdragon doesnt, just can't name any of them. Lol.
[OT] Same thing with Note Pro 12.2 (which is basically Note 3 but bigger in size, or is it?). Snapdragon owners have had no problems while Exynos owners have some kind of BSOD, heating problems, screen problems and lags while gaming. [/OT]
So I'll never buy an Exynos one, but thats just me

Spere said:
What i've read, does Snapdragon version have some fast charging that Exynos doesn't, so you'll charge your phone a lot faster? At least my Snapdragon device really charges very fast with stock charger. Also what i've seen, Exynos development is much slower than Snapdragon on Sammy's phones / tablets.
And again, what I have read from the web, Exynos devices have had problems that Snapdragon doesnt, just can't name any of them. Lol.
[OT] Same thing with Note Pro 12.2 (which is basically Note 3 but bigger in size, or is it?). Snapdragon owners have had no problems while Exynos owners have some kind of BSOD, heating problems, screen problems and lags while gaming. [/OT]
So I'll never buy an Exynos one, but thats just me
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Ayushsinghal said:
Performance is smooth. Apps load up quick... Ram usage about 1.7 GB out of 2.3 GB even in the heavy load scenario..... Even the mighty touchwiz can't slow it down ....
Personally I have the Exynos one and I am crying because it has no custom rom...:crying:
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Burt Macklin said:
Haven't had a Exynos device, but never had a problem with Snapdragon. Awesome processors.
HTC Fireball, Unlocked, S-OFF, CM11, Android 4.4.4 KitKat
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Ayushsinghal said:
Buy the snapdragon one .
If u love custom roms and rooting stuff which I think you love ......
Otherwise you would be well off with either of them..
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Thank you guys. From all of your reviews, I'm deciding to buy a Snapdragon one

Need buying advice - N910C of N910F ?

Which one should I buy if I'm after longer battery life / performance / XDA support?
I'm not a gamer.
Thanks in advance

search...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247

Doesn't really matter. The N910F apparently gives better battery life, but some try dispute that. If LTE Cat.6 is implemented in your country then get the N910F as it supports LTE Cat.6. With latest Android 5.1.1 now out for the USA Snapdragons and Exynos Polish, apparently both no longer have Recent Apps lag and they perform much better than before.
Either way youre getting a beastly device.

go for 910c and dont even think about it unless you are cm user.

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go for 910c and dont even think about it unless you are cm user.
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and why is that? it's simple, both run and will run 32bit, and if you want more processing power, then the C if you want graphics power, then the F.. simple as that, nothing more nothing less..

thejunkie said:
and why is that? it's simple, both run and will run 32bit, and if you want more processing power, then the C if you want graphics power, then the F.. simple as that, nothing more nothing less..
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910f barelys has any more graphics power. not a single game runs better on s805 version(atleast the ones i tried) benchmarks almost same aswell. but on the other hand cpu difference is big. when you use them side by side speed difference is very noticable.
and whatever they are on 32 or 64 bit doesnt mean anything.

I got a N910C, because I never did like Quadcomm SOCs. They tend to run a little hotter than other SOCs. I barely felt any heat of my N910C even when playing Asphalt 8 or Street Fighter IV HD. The only time I felt any heat from my N910C was when it had developed a hardware fault and I had to send it back to the retailer for repairs. Which I'm still waiting for them to finish the repairs.
Other than that I had a great experience with my N910C.

The N910F doesn't run hot, the Snapdragon 805 CPU has to be the coolest of the Qualcomm chips. The only time the phone got hot for me is when upgrading to Lollipop, it got very hot while optimising apps, then calmed down after the update was all done.
As for performance, on 5.1.1 both the C and USA Snapdragons that are basically US N910Fs are running with no Recent Apps lag, so one can't really say there is much of a difference, both run much better than they did on 5.0.1.
Get the variant that has warranty in your country, and if both do, then get the one that best suits your network e.g. if the network supports the newer and faster LTE Cat.6 then get the F, also for slightly better battery life get the F, as well as if you plan on getting the GearVR by Oculus, get the F.
If you want the Exynos CPU and Wolfson DAC, get the C.

I've just sold my 910f and bought the 910c. Two reasons first I just prefer exynos maybe because my last device was exynos. Second the snapdragon does run fairly hot and tended to overheat when using gear vr
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

Dont do that mistake and buy note 4 it's crap

Exynos 5433 is around ~30% faster at the CPU department, while it has a weaker GPU.
Honestly, it doesn't make much of a difference. But if you can choose, the 910C has better performance.
Weaker GPU matter less than weaker CPU because both are going to run any game exceptionally regardless.
Edit: Exynos 5433 is apparently ~50% ahead of the SD805 at geekbench, difference is bigger than I thought.

Go for C and don't look back.

910C.

I've just got the C & I have noticed it runs smoother than my F & also when I play music via Bluetooth it don't get ant skips, blips etc like i did with the F.
I dunno if it's the 5.1.1 update that has fixed that or its a Snapdragon fault.
So far I'm really happy with the C & just looking at the F & wonder if I should sell it.

The 5.1.1 update seems to have done wonders for both N910F and N910C.
Sent from my Note 4 +64GB MicroSDXC via Tapatalk

Get the C

Hehehe again a 910C/910F thread, let's see how quickly this one gets closed due to members fighting (cause that's where thread like these are always bound to end up in).
Anyway my personal opinion: if you want to stay stock, then go for the 910C. If you want AOSP then 910F. Yes, CM is currently also available for 910C but they're about 8-12 months behind. Realistically the Note 6 will be out before a 'perfect' stable version will be available for the 910C. These things just take a lot of time to develop.
Quick pro's and cons of stock vs AOSP:
Pro stock:
* Everything just works.
Pro AOSP:
* Quick updates, no need to wait till august 2016 for Android M, you will have it 2 weeks after google releases it
* Blazing fast GUI, everything just works so much smoother.
* Additional features and control over your phone.
Con AOSP:
* Not everything works as of yet, I think currently still missing (although will be worked upon) are AudioFX, MMS, Compass in google maps. And then there's of course the fingerprint scanner but that should be coming with Android M. And then if you flash nightlies every time, you will run into some problems every now and then of course.
Previously camera quality was also a factor but that's solved now, photo quality is now equal.
All in all a personal choice, but I think this is what it boils down to.

Snapdragon vs Exynos | Which one should I get?

Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks

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Enynos hands down
CR4SH_eR said:
Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks
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tiguy99 said:
Enynos hands down
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Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.

DarkGuyver said:
Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)

Jovan1997 said:
Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.

tiguy99 said:
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DarkGuyver said:
Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Jovan1997 said:
Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
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OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?

go snapdragon if you gonna treat the phone as a glorified psp.. Go Exynos if you want cpu power with economy.. cant get it all...

CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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I've been happily using the Snapdragon 805 variant since launch week and it runs just fine. Battery is great, I get around 6.5h SOT if I do try push it (usually going to bed by the time it hits 4h).
Both variants are great, and you should have a similar experience on both on Android 6.0.1.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC

CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?

CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!

tiguy99 said:
Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?
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The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!
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Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?

CR4SH_eR said:
Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?
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ROM Support seems good.
Check out the Exynos Development Section

Snapdragon for gaming, media, and vr. Exynos for multitasking and background processing. From what I've read, both are fairly comparable but exynos may have better chance of seeing nougat update since it's more widely used internationally.

Actually, I have used both of them.
The Exynos wins, at least in terms of a battery life (+30 min of SoT compared to the SnapDragon) and earbuds sound quality. Moreover, it heats up less than the Snap.

the n910c seems to be better in every aspect

Guys I had the snapdragon variant and I just got the exynos model now... Huge difference! The exynos hands down wins! By far better...
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA-Developers mobile app

Lol I have 2 phone right now i i say that exinos in way back after snapdragon. Snap is better in every way. More powerfull cpu, ram., all test win snapdragon

Actually if you care about performance, go with snapdragon, but if you use it as daily phone and you concern about battery life, heating problem then exynos. BTW, exynos on galaxy note 4 has 64 bit processor, which means, it is a newer version of processor!!