Can a Loki Patched AT&T S4 can go to Lolipop? I have a feeling that something special needs to be done so that the old 4.2.2 bootloader is compatible like how there was a specific patch for 4.4.2 . I would like to run an international Lolipop i9505 ROM on my S4. I'm still on a custom 4.4.2 ROM and didn't know that there was even official lolipop ROMs. Thanks guys.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
Can a Loki Patched AT&T S4 can go to Lolipop? I have a feeling that something special needs to be done so that the old 4.2.2 bootloader is compatible like how there was a specific patch for 4.4.2 . I would like to run an international Lolipop i9505 ROM on my S4. I'm still on a custom 4.4.2 ROM and didn't know that there was even official lolipop ROMs. Thanks guys.
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For sure. I'm on Loki and using CM 12.1 with my AMDL bootloader.
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Hi folks, I'm thinking about getting the SGH-I337 (AT&T version of the s4) which from what I've heard is identical to the i9505 but flashed with a different Modem and ROM. What I was wondering was if it was possible to flash the i9505 ROM + Modem onto the SGH-I337 and essentially "convert" it to the i9505. I was wondering if anyone had more details on the hardware and if there were any issues that I'm just not seeing. I see that the ROM is not an issue. More curious about the Modem. I would like to use the phone on LTE in the UK
I'm looking for a 32GB version of the i9505 and so far, the only option I have is the SGH-I337.
Any thoughts?
dilwaala said:
Hi folks, I'm thinking about getting the SGH-I337 (AT&T version of the s4) which from what I've heard is identical to the i9505 but flashed with a different Modem and ROM. What I was wondering was if it was possible to flash the i9505 ROM + Modem onto the SGH-I337 and essentially "convert" it to the i9505. I was wondering if anyone had more details on the hardware and if there were any issues that I'm just not seeing. I see that the ROM is not an issue. More curious about the Modem. I would like to use the phone on LTE in the UK
I'm looking for a 32GB version of the i9505 and so far, the only option I have is the SGH-I337.
Any thoughts?
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Yes you can flash i9505 rom but not sure if you can flash i9505 modem. The way everybody is doing it, to insure ATT network compatibility, is to flash just the i9505 rom while keeping the ATT radio. By doing so, your device ID will switch to GT-I9505 and the SGH-I337 will be gone.
So from what I'm understanding he can flash the i9505 ROM which by he means stock firmware? So I can flash i9505 5.0.1 lollipop stock firmware on my i337? That's what I understood. Is it true?
The bootloader on the i337 may be locked so flashing the i9505 stock firmware onto the i337 may not be possible. I am just guessing here as I have the i337m which does not have a locked bootloader.
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The bootloader on the i337 may be locked so flashing the i9505 stock firmware onto the i337 may not be possible. I am just guessing here as I have the i337m which does not have a locked bootloader.
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Mine is not locked, I bought it used and it was rooted already, so I installed twrp through flashify and I am using cm12. The reason I'm asking is because in sammobile there isn't any lollipop not even kitkat firmwares for my i337 model. So I wanted to know if flashing the i9505 kitkat/lollipop stock firmware on my device could be fine. If not, I can keep on using cm12.
Att never released a complete kk or LP rom. These were only available via ota updates which explains why they cannot be found on sammobile.com.
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Att never released a complete kk or LP rom. These were only available via ota updates which explains why they cannot be found on sammobile.com.
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How could I update it then? I'll be stock in jellybean 4.2.2 because with no root I never received the ota update nor for kikat and not even lollipop.
The rom must be running a completely stock 4.2.2 rom, including stock recovery with no root, to install ota updates.
You could look in the general or development forum to see if anyone has made a flashable zip for the ota updates. The again, the ota updates may not work without an updated bootloader and modem which may mean locking the bootloader.
I'm currently running on 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on my ATT Galaxy S4(SGH-i337). I want to upgrade to the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 Stock Update. My ATT S4 is rooted and unlocked to work in India.
Can someone tell me:-
- If I need custom recovery for this ?
-If Yes/ No how do I go about it ?
-Will I lose root & and Carrier unlock after update ?
- Link to the Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat OTA
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I'm currently running on 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on my ATT Galaxy S4(SGH-i337). I want to upgrade to the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 Stock Update. My ATT S4 is rooted and unlocked to work in India.
Can someone tell me:-
- If I need custom recovery for this ?
-If Yes/ No how do I go about it ?
-Will I lose root & and Carrier unlock after update ?
- Link to the Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat OTA
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If you update, depending on which firmware you are on now, you will lose your ability to boot custom roms. If you have the MDL firmware, I suggest keeping it as you can use LOKI to bypass the locked bootloader and boot custom roms and recoveries. Now to answer your questions.
You can use a custom recovery to update to 4.4.2 if a .zip file for the update is available. You can also use ODIN to flash the update. You will lose root unless you use a pre-rooted update file. The stock 4.4.2 update is in the General forums I believe.
Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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It says in the OP the ROM is AOSP based, which means you cannot flash it on the retail Verizon version. It can only be flashed on the Developer Edition Verizon variant.
Ok, that's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure. Thanks for your help!
RayburnD said:
Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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A developer edition cannot run Roms for the retail edition. You will lock your device. You can backup your phone or flash something else by using Odin to flash a kernel of an earlier build such as nk2. This will bring safestrap back up.
lazrus1 said:
I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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I wouldn't suggest installing roms based off retail firmware for the de version as it'll probably lock your bootloader. Developer editions can take any aosp rom made for the kltevzw, and any rom that isn't based off of retail firmware, for that matter. Safestrap doesn't work on lollipop, but if you want it to run all you have to do is flash a kitkat kernel on odin and safestrap will work again, ths system will not, however, unless you install a lollipop kernel.
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A developer edition cannot run Roms for the retail edition. You will lock your device. You can backup your phone or flash something else by using Odin to flash a kernel of an earlier build such as nk2. This will bring safestrap back up.
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thank you!
Are there any AOSP ROMS based on CM12.1 that are semi-stable? I saw the one by albinoman887 , but that one does not yet seem stable, and since I am a n00b, might not be a good idea to flash it.... Are there any other ROMS for Samsung GS5 kltevzw phones with unlocked bootloaders that you know of?
thank you!
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thank you!
Are there any AOSP ROMS based on CM12.1 that are semi-stable? I saw the one by albinoman887 , but that one does not yet seem stable, and since I am a n00b, might not be a good idea to flash it.... Are there any other ROMS for Samsung GS5 kltevzw phones with unlocked bootloaders that you know of?
thank you!
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I am too unfamiliar with the developer edition. I wouldn't want to mess up your phone.
Hey guys,
My brother has the S4 i337 model and he's on 4.4.2
This phone is unlocked and he's using Tmobile on it.
For some reason it cannot find 4.4.4 via OTA and Kies
Is this because it's on tmobile or this model didn't get 4.4.4 yet.
Do I need to root it and flash a rom on it?
Thanks
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Hey guys,
My brother has the S4 i337 model and he's on 4.4.2
This phone is unlocked and he's using Tmobile on it.
For some reason it cannot find 4.4.4 via OTA and Kies
Is this because it's on tmobile or this model didn't get 4.4.4 yet.
Do I need to root it and flash a rom on it?
Thanks
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Some models of the Samsung Galaxy S4 just didn't get the update, for instance my i337 didn't even get the 4.4.2 Kitkat update and was stuck on JellyBean. Your best bet is to just flash a 4.4.4 Rom on it. Clears out the bloated stock software.
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Some models of the Samsung Galaxy S4 just didn't get the update, for instance my i337 didn't even get the 4.4.2 Kitkat update and was stuck on JellyBean. Your best bet is to just flash a 4.4.4 Rom on it. Clears out the bloated stock software.
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that's really lame
So to make sure I do this the right way
I have to root the phone first
then install custom recovery
then flash rom right?
Or does the boot loader need to be unlocked?
Any rom recommendations?
I'd like for it to be stock so it's stable since my brother needs this for testing purposes
krazyq said:
that's really lame
So to make sure I do this the right way
I have to root the phone first
then install custom recovery
then flash rom right?
Or does the boot loader need to be unlocked?
Any rom recommendations?
I'd like for it to be stock so it's stable since my brother needs this for testing purposes
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Yes correct, but if your boot loader is locked then you're going to need to download SafeStrap Recovery for locked bootloaders. Then once you have installed that, there's only very limited amount of Roms you can install because of the kernel, if you find a ROM that changes the kernel your phone won't boot. But a ROM that is fully working is called "GoldenEye ROM" its a 4.4.2 ROM but is really clean, stock, and clears out all that bloated nonsense. There's no 4.4.4 Roms for locked bootloaders yet.
Brandon.Black said:
Yes correct, but if your boot loader is locked then you're going to need to download SafeStrap Recovery for locked bootloaders. Then once you have installed that, there's only very limited amount of Roms you can install because of the kernel, if you find a ROM that changes the kernel your phone won't boot. But a ROM that is fully working is called "GoldenEye ROM" its a 4.4.2 ROM but is really clean, stock, and clears out all that bloated nonsense. There's no 4.4.4 Roms for locked bootloaders yet.
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thanks for this info
I'll look into it
i have a samsung galaxy s4 that says its a gt-i9500 on the about device setting but SGH-1337 on odin , i don't know what to do so i can install a custom rom on it or if theres a way to remove the software and install it from the ground up
The phone's motherboard is from an AT&T S4 sgh-i337. It's running at least a 4.3 bootloader and the bootloader is locked which means the phone cannot run custom ROMs.
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The phone's motherboard is from an AT&T S4 sgh-i337. It's running at least a 4.3 bootloader and the bootloader is locked which means the phone cannot run custom ROMs.
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There are TouchWiz ROMs (Goldeneye for example) that can be flashed with SafeStrap after the NB1 package is flashed via Odin.
When debloated TW is actually surprisingly stable and quick.
Sorry, when I said custom ROMs, I should have stated that the phone can only run custom ROMs that are based off a Samsung ROM and installed via safestrap.