Seriously Operational Problems
OPX BLUETOOTH. There is recognition problem many devices and components.
OPX DUAL SIM, DUAL STAND BY 4G? Not applicable. When you run out of sim card data is committed as required by the company, another sim card is not using the data only telephone contact.
They will solve these problems ;. If coming from the device's operating system, perhaps solved. Otherwise the company is unreliable with the specifications advertised .
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Hi,
Was looking at the twin sim option but seem the same seller on ebay is offering this:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-6-N...836681504QQcategoryZ67966QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Universal 6 Number in 1 Sim Card for GSM Mobile Phone
Looks like it could stop having the bulge on rear of phone that the twin sim causes.
Any comments on whether it may work?
Scott
That looks neat - however, I have been told that this sort of thing won't work on UK SIMS due to the encryption standard we use (or something like that - sorry to be vague)
I've emailed the seller to ask him if it'll work with UK sims, and will let you know. If it does, I'll try one in the T-Mobile Vario (Wizard).
It is a UK seller so I guess it will work on UK SIMs.
Just got an email from the seller saying:-
The software is only standard STK menu
So - I doubt there is software for Windows Mobile device but I would loved to be proved wrong
Scott
yes, you'd think so wouldn't you...
From googling around, it appears that all supersims have a restriction that they only work with V1 and V1+ SIM cards. Not V2...
...and apparently all recent UK sims are "V2". I'm afraid I'm just passing on info from this forum, and have no way of checking what sims are v1 or v2. If someone will let me know how to check, I will do for o2 and t-mobile sims that I have
slewis1972: be very careful. As indicated, 6in1 are sim copiers, that require cracking the encryption on the sim before they can host the copy.
If this cracking doesn't work, it's destructive AFAIK. So, you'll be left without a sim. They work only on older Cellnet era sims (in the UK) and ok in some foreign countries.
I've posted on a £4 sim cut dual sim from ebay. Works well on Magician.
Hope that helps.
V
STK menu means SIM Toolkit. STK is a way for SIM cards to have their own menu with special functions on mobile phones.
This is not used much by UK operators, but it is very used elsewhere. You simply get an additional menu in your mobile phone.
This is also supported by Jams and Wizards of course, as it is a standard feature of SIM cards. One of my SIM cards have a STK menu, and it appears perfectly on the Wizard (and previously on Jam).
The problem is whether the PC software will be able to copy the data residing in our SIM cards, whether UK or non-UK. In theory, if our mobile phone can read this data, then why shouldn't this kit be able to do it.
We need more answers from the vendor. It might actually work.
A bit more research: there's no current sim copiers that can "crack" the encryption on a V2 SIM, although sim max are apparently working on it.
Every card in the last 2 years - possibly longer - has been a v2 card.
again, I'd love to be wrong as I'd love this to work, but I think it's sorta doomed
Thanks for your research.
I am waiting for an answer from the vendor, but I have also sent emails to one of his previous customers. There are also guys in the UK among his previous customers.
In any case, I do not get the argument related to encryption. Any mobile phone can read the data on any SIM, as long as you give it the correct PIN number. The encryption might be an issue if someone tries to crack the SIM without knowing the PIN code, but in this case, we all know the PIN codes of our SIMs, so why shouldn't this device be able to read the content of our SIM cards...
Anyway, let's see what the vendor will reply. He is got excellent eBay feedback by the way, and many have bought this 6 in 1 super SIM...
Sirox, I suggest you do some detailed reading on this before you risk a SIM on it. There's a great difference between getting the sim PIN and this procedure. This requires you to crack the encryption of the SIM itself and clone it, and then emulate it back from the clone card.
This is not something most Operators like (although some operators will provide you with a second sim to use simultaneously if you ask).
v1 cards had a weak encryption.
v2 cards (current) are hard, if not impossible to crack, AFAIK.
http://www.gsm-talk.com/t227735p1-please-help-cloning-uk-sim.htm
From http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-SCAN
some cards can be destroyed using this function!!! especially prepaid cards!!! because they have limited running of a38 from 10000 to 65536 times and after that a38 do not work anymore!!!
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V
Hi Vijay,
Thanks for your info.
The vendor has replied to me saying that this product supports V1 and some V2 type SIM cards, about 98% of SIM cards around. And you have to note that UK GSM providers have never been particularly up for high technology, compared for example to Italian GSM providers who use much more advanced SIM cards, with lots of menus, and 128K, etc.
What I have done, I have written messages to 6 UK-based people who have bought this stuff on eBay (all with positive feedback), asking them to report back how it works and which GSM providers they use. I believe this is the best way of solving the issue.
In any case, I am not at all interested in cloning my SIM card per se, as this would be easily done by asking the operator for a duplicate for car usage. I am only interested in having my 2-3 SIM cards (of different countries) in one, without needing to swap them.
I will report here when I receive answers from those previous customers.
Maybe this can help you ...
Explain how to distinguish V1 from V2 SIM card ...
http://www.nowgsm.com/supersim.htm
16 in 1 SIM
Take care about the NOTE : Work near 100% on V1 card but incompatible with V2 ...
Regards
Asmo
Thanks for the info and the link!
The product mentioned in your link seems to have different specs from the one that originated this thread, as this one declares that it can read some V2 cards too.
By the way, the indication in the note might be useful. It says that if the SIM supports more than 250 numbers it may not be compatible. As a matter of fact, my Vodafone UK (contract) SIM card has only 200 slots, so it might be COMP128V1, therefore compatible.
As I said earlier, UK operators do not tend to use latest technology. In Italy for example, GSM operators made big marketing campaigns a couple of year ago for the new 64K SIM cards. Now they are doing it with the 128K SIM cards, while in the UK I think they are all still 16K or 32K. And they do not use the SIM Toolkit features.
By the way, a couple of eBay customers have already replied that they haven't received the stuff yet, but will let me know when they receive it.
Is there away to clone my sim card so I don't have to keep taken it out and switching it from phone to phone. If there is can I do it with my phone or do i have to buy a sim card reader.......... Thank You!
Nowadays you almost never can. Some older generation sims could be copied once someone broke the encryption on them, but operators were quick to switch to a newer version and that hasn't been broken (yet).
Some operators also have countermeasures in the sims that simply blow a fuse if you try to clone them with regularly available cloning kits.
I thinking of purchasing this handset. but would like to know if the 3 network sim would work in this 3g handset.
Has anyone tried or could try it, if have you have access to a 3 network sim.
You will have to have mske sure your handset is sim unlocked. ??lokiwiz worked for my m600
sorry cant send you a sim to try!
thanks
abu yahya
SIM's from the 3 network still don't work in 'non 3' devices despite them now being the same physical size as other networks SIMs
One of our members on my other forum had the same query, and tested it to no avail earlier this year
thanks for the info
abuyahya
usim -3 network
will a 3 network sim work in any 3 branded phone are are they EMEI locked to that specific phone?
We might have to start unlocking sim cards too?!
Abu Yahya
I think you are on safer ground there!
Older 3 phones won't accept current 3 SIMs because the original 3 phones used a different sized SIM card, but later ones should be OK.
I can't imagine they would lock a SIM to a handset- they had so many device failures in the early years that it would have been a nightmare to manage all the IMEI locking!
Only the recent X-Series of 3 phones are capable of some of the more advanced connectivity services.
Three UK SIMs have an application running on the SIM that looks for a partner application on the handset. If you put it in a non three handset (Which doesn't have the partner application) then the SIM won't work.
HOWEVER!!!, Three UK use two types of SIMs. One type is an Axalto model, and you will see something similar to AX7021 in small letters on one side of the SIM.
The other is a Gemplus Model, which usually has GP7017 on it instead. (The AX and the GP being the critical part, although the above number seem to be the latest incarnations of them)
The Axalto SIM's have the application on it, and the Gemplus ones do not.
Therefore....the Gemplus SIMs will work in a non Three handset.
Persuading Three to send you a Gemplus SIM is the difficult part however, cos the idiots they employ in their Indian call centres wouldn't know what you are talking about, and in general the Gemplus SIMs are only for datacards, which by their nature cannot carry the application. They will usually refuse to send a Gemplus SIM to anyone without a datacard, and they also usually refuse to provision a Gemplus SIM for anything other than Data only tarriffs, even if you can get them to send you one.
Hope that explains things a bit better.
Excellent information- thanks. Explains a lot!
the phone partner application, any ideas if we could extract it and thus install it on phones such as the trinity and thereby getting the Ax7020 sim to work.
no idea i'm afraid. If someone could get hold of a 3UK Qtek 9000 we might stand a chance...
Hello all,
I've ran into some troubles with my device, since I have it running with a unlimited data transfer flatrate, that sim is blocked for incomming and outgoing phonecalls.
Solution on this trouble should be one of the dual sim adapters, which leads me to another problem. Since it seems to be impossible on my HTC Uni to have two simultaneous active cards running, the data one would be the usual active one for my needs.
But how to get the device automatically activating that sim, while its sleeping on an incomming phone call? Preferably without any costs on the data sim and extra costs on the phone sim either for me nor for the calling party.
Call deflection an possible option?
Since its probably a common issue im ashamed that I couldnt find any solution. Would be nice if I could still get some reply.
Thanks in advance,
Real.
Also have a look on this thread please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392396
You can take a look at this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256442
Actually, I don't recall any dual SIM adaptor allowing 2 SIMs online at the same time. Looks like you need a phone able to handle that specific feature.
Your phone is able to handle 2 different lines at the same time ... but on the same SIM card. Some Operators used to provide this type of plan. A plan, 2 different numbers ... But same Operator !
I've heard that ETEN will release a Dual SIM PDAPhone (DX900) : http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Eten-DX900-is-dual-SIM-smartphone-article-a_2805.html
Anyway, I've been looking for the answer ... But, nothing yet.
Here is a workaround
Dual SIM WM Phone.
http://www.totobay.com/hkc-g1000-du...and-bluetooth-function-p6073.html#description
frav said:
Here is a workaround
Dual SIM WM Phone.
http://www.totobay.com/hkc-g1000-du...and-bluetooth-function-p6073.html#description
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here's my review
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2008/04/hkc-g1000-dual-sim-wm6.html
Universal
As first thanks for the replys!
frav said:
(...) Your phone is able to handle 2 different lines at the same time ... but on the same SIM card. (...)
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This really sounds interesting, since I've got both of my most frequently used sims at the same provider. (Telefone/- and Dataflat)
Maybe my provider is willing to attach them both sims into one, or else theres still the chance of "doing by self". Another point is that those contracts dont have such a long lifetime anymore, so most likely this will be pretty mutch possible.
Sounds way better than buying a new phone, with the possibility of using two sim cards simultaneously.
Only one thing troubles me, since I've wrote about the HTC Adv beeing the mentioned device while it is Universal. Does that one have that feature aswell? I hope and pray, since this seems to be my last chance of having it more user friendly.
Any reply mutch obliged,
Real.
I purchased (what I think) a US dual-SIM version of this phone for a senior from a local vendor, Canada Computers.
I'd like to have this phone set-up with one of the SIMs for calling-only from one carrier and the other SIM for internet Data-only from another carrier as this is the most cost-effective means given this persons overall phone usage and the plans that are available to them.
I have however come across a few references that the second SIM isn't a "true" SIM slot and that this phone can't be set-up in this manner,
Can anyone confirm that the above set-up should work? I haven't opened the box yet and might return it if it isn't possible.
:fingers-crossed:
bobor9 said:
I purchased (what I think) a US dual-SIM version of this phone for a senior from a local vendor, Canada Computers.
I'd like to have this phone set-up with one of the SIMs for calling-only from one carrier and the other SIM for internet Data-only from another carrier as this is the most cost-effective means given this persons overall phone usage and the plans that are available to them.
I have however come across a few references that the second SIM isn't a "true" SIM slot and that this phone can't be set-up in this manner,
Can anyone confirm that the above set-up should work? I haven't opened the box yet and might return it if it isn't possible.
:fingers-crossed:
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It seems that Canada Computers has acquired a large stock of these phones and is selling them for CDN $139. The question is: Where did they come from?
There is a version of this phone that was customized for the Bell network and sold by PC Mobile and Lucky Mobile. On that version the second slot works only with a microSD card; the SIM function is disabled.
PC Mobile and Lucky Mobile have discontinued selling that phone and perhaps Canada Computers has bought their remaining stock.
If you post a picture of the label on the back of the box (or maybe the UPC is enough) maybe someone on this forum can tell you if you have that version.
Thanks qzjxk - wasn't aware that Bell had dual SIM versions blocked. I'll post a pic when I get home.
Noticed the description on Canada Computers website itself is quite vague:
Not one but two
With two SIM card slots, the Axon 7 Mini travels with you to wherever the world wants to take you. Capture your entire journey with the 128GB MicroSD card slot, providing expandable memory whenever you need it.