So i love the fact that tmobile is now offering unlimited video streaming from 20 some odd suppliers of video content. However, I'm not one to watch videos on my phone much. I want to use the "optimized" data speeds of tmobile to stream videos to through my phone and tmobile network, but to my TV. Why? Because my home internet sucks, i'm renting and... long story.
I know the nexus 6p doesn't have HDMI out, as that would be the perfect option, can anyone else think of anything that would solve this for me?
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So i love the fact that tmobile is now offering unlimited video streaming from 20 some odd suppliers of video content. However, I'm not one to watch videos on my phone much. I want to use the "optimized" data speeds of tmobile to stream videos to through my phone and tmobile network, but to my TV. Why? Because my home internet sucks, i'm renting and... long story.
I know the nexus 6p doesn't have HDMI out, as that would be the perfect option, can anyone else think of anything that would solve this for me?
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https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_hdmi_adapter
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Chromcast.
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Depending on how he does it, he will have to use tethering, and tmobile is not allowing unlimited streaming with these video services through hotspot.
With that said, I believe you can mirror your screen through Chromecast without it using hotspot data. Some apps have an audio delay and other visual glitches doing this though. Netflix and YouTube are what I do this with often, and they both work flawlessly. Another caveat to doing this is you have to leave your phones screen on. This will tear through your battery and make your phone quite hot. It pretty much has to stay plugged in.
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https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_hdmi_adapter
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you frickin kiddin me, awsome, i've only ever heard from sources that this phone wasn't hdmi out enabled, mucho thanks amigo.
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Depending on how he does it, he will have to use tethering, and tmobile is not allowing unlimited streaming with these video services through hotspot.
With that said, I believe you can mirror your screen through Chromecast without it using hotspot data. Some apps have an audio delay and other visual glitches doing this though. Netflix and YouTube are what I do this with often, and they both work flawlessly. Another caveat to doing this is you have to leave your phones screen on. This will tear through your battery and make your phone quite hot. It pretty much has to stay plugged in.
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I don't see where that the "chromecast" reply went, maybe deleted. But chromecast uses wifi to draw the video stream from netflix (for example) once i perform the phoen to chromi handshake. But ya i did consider the mirror. too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/hdmi-adapter-6p-t3224011
Doesn't looks like that cable is for anything more than the pixlebook
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/hdmi-adapter-6p-t3224011
Doesn't looks like that cable is for anything more than the pixlebook
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Yeah. The Nexus 6P sadly does NOT have the capability to output HDMI.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/hdmi-adapter-6p-t3224011
Doesn't looks like that cable is for anything more than the pixlebook
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Bummer, that sucks.
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I don't see where that the "chromecast" reply went, maybe deleted. But chromecast uses wifi to draw the video stream from netflix (for example) once i perform the phoen to chromi handshake. But ya i did consider the mirror. too
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I'm assuming since he wants to use his new unlimited streaming data, he doesn't have wifi available. So it would use his phones tether data.
there's some weird information in here so hopefully i can help summarize some of the things that have been posted.
T-Mobile will forgive certain streaming services against your data plan.
The data forgiveness does not apply to tethering/hotspot connections.
Utilizing Chromecast as a streaming source (instead of mirroring your device) will require a WiFi connection. As stated above, this bypasses the forgiveness by utilizing the tethering/hotspot of your device.
The N6P does NOT have an HDMI out but can have miracast enabled and/or utilize screen mirroring through Chromecast.
Many streaming applications prevent Chromecast/Screen Mirroring from your device.
OP, the short answer here is that you're limited to your phone, unless you're willing to work for another solution. If you're looking for a solution while you're traveling, I would look in to buying a cheap "travel" router that allows you to authenticate to hotel WiFi and still use CC.
I have same issue like this. The only thing is I don't use a Chromecast. I hook up my TV with LAN (Old Sony Bravia) to my router and my phone to same routers WiFi. So I am able to share and connect with TV. No issues. I have a crappy wired internet connected to it. I also have unlimited 4G plan on my phone. I use AllConnect to cast from my Phone to TV. Now I am able to cast Movie HD app via AllConnect on my TV. But as soon as I disconnect the wired internet from my router. I am not able to cast. I want to use my Phones 4G internet to stream on my TV. Theoretically it should be possible to cast using my routers LAN which I am able to. But as soon as I disconnect DSL cable from my router the streaming stops. Can anyone help me here.
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I haven't found anything on here for Orb. Doesn't anyone use it? It is so useful on winmo (specially the diamond with only 4 gb of internal storage) and it would be even better on the G1.
Supposedly orb says it works, can anyone here get it to work on 3G? It works if you are connected to your own personal wifi, but when you connect to someone elses (or 3G) you get an error.
Are you using the orb website?
And is your computer open on the right ports?
I am going through orb.com on my g1. I never changed anything on my computer. It was working fine with my sprint diamond, and even worked somewhat OK with my sprint instinct, but not with this g1 I can't get anything to stream via 3G.
Have no idea about ports and stuff. I know that orb gave a link to some sort of complicated thread about changing stuff, I didn't want to get all technical until I find out that is the only method.
I tried changing formats and speeds but nuttin.
It may be the new t-mobile settings they are now redirecting images on the data connections to compress them... maybe for audio too?
I am able to browse my orb page, but when I try to stream video I am unable to open the feed with anything. It worked great with my tilt even t-mobile's edge. If somebody is watching tv using orb on their g1, give everyone some idea as to how you are using it. What type of feed are you using there are a few, I figure it has to be one of the 3 .3gp streams. Will play with it again when I get home.
Thanks,
Manny
It's probably a problem with not forwarding ports. I'll look into it.
I have it working on my setup... I am using Video Player and that is what picked up the movie...
Also audio plays as well going through the music player.
I am not seeing any issues I suspect they are with your computer or internet connection. I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
The other thing is if your connections up speed (smaller of two numbers normally) is low you will have issues. Because of the 3G being faster than edge it may have issues. I would suggest checking issues with your network speed while on the orb page.
What is the stream type? Flash? WMV...what? The video player launches on mine but it states the format is not supported. Can someone look into their Settings and post results? Thanks.
Its great over wifi. Doesn't stream videos well over 3G. Audio is fine though.
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I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
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Your speciality? I didn't know that 30 seconds in a router took that much skill...
I have it set up a little differently LOL not just your normal NAT or DMZ style, I actually have a business line to my house for my job and I keep my work computer and my personal computer on seperate networks and the server has a seperate IP as well that is connected to both networks. Like I said I know what I am doing been in the business for quite some time and this is what I do for a living. I don't have any firewalls on the server it is completely open... but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
On the codec side... I have to check other videos to see if they work because the video I streamed was meant to play on the G1... but the codec is 3gp-aac/rtsp format
All videos work at that codec... makes it easier to watch videos now LOL
Mine works pretty well over wifi and network. I think what had happened to me was when I first tried testing it there wasn't a video app yet and I didn't bother to try it again until now. Back when I first got the phone. 3gp-aac/rtsp stream works for me, every once in a while it does tell me it can't play a video, but if I restart the stream it work.
I can connect and get my picture and music files but I can't get video or TV...I'm thinking it has to be something with the stream settings because I have a video that plays off my SD card but wont play when I try connecting through orb to same video file on my computer. What speed do you recommend? Can we stream TV at this point or is that out because of limited file formats?
Orb working for me
Orb is working just fine for me. Audio, video, everything. The only issue I have is when my phone switches from 3g to edge at work, it comes up and says that I can't play the video. I then restart from the same point, and it works fine. I just had to forward my ports.
port forwarding huh? Mind posting a link to for a step by step?
Port Forwarding Instructions
http://support.orb.com/kb/entry/121
www.portforward.com
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but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
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How exactly would you stop 0day exploits without a firewall? Or do you just pretend those don't exist... ?
My server acts not only as a server but a router as well... it doesn't have a conventional firewall. I worked for a security company that looks at all incoming traffic and can route and block traffic that looks malicious. It is not a firewall it is a routing program in itself. This runs on my main server that can route to Network A, B, or C. As I said I do this for a living my garage is a "server farm" or as good as it can be for residential.
I have not had any attacks in over 3 years... I think I am doing pretty good.
I have used orb with my G1 and 3G and it streamed sirius just fine. that was with usirius as well, also it was with original rc now I am at 30 it may not work havent tried it yet
So I've recently been trying to wirelessly tether my g2 to my xbox360 to play live but I constantly get an error back saying my "NAT type is strict".
I can play games anyways that way but it is very slow and laggy and annoying. From what I read up about that error, I need to enable a few ports. Found here: http://www.xboxliveaddicts.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=24450&st=0 and also a few other sources....so question is, is there any way possible to do this on the g2 in place of a router as said in the directions?
Please help, not being able to play live seamlessly is terrible.
I have no idea but I do know that trying to play live through your phone is a terrible idea. The latency on these networks is not what you want when playing online or are the the speeds consistent enough. Trust me when I say this. You are going to pony up and get a real broadband connection for that. If not the lag is going to be extremely unbearable for the most part. The hspa+ network isn't built for it yet. Now true 4g will but that down the road quite a bit.
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I agree with the last poster. Latency makes it completely not worth it. I don't know about opening the ports, but I know I used to be able to to use internet connection sharing on a laptop tethered to my windows mobile phone years ago to connect, but it was too slow to play anything. But if you're dead set on trying it, that would probably be your best bet. Tether the phone to a laptop via usb or wifi, then share the connection via ethernet.
I wish it was workable. I'm in the Navy and our computer network blocks many streaming sites so I use my phone and a laptop to watch netflix on slow duty nights. Would be great to be able to play Halo at work that way, but don't see it happening for a very long time.
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Dear OP,
You're the reason our data is throttled. Thanks bud.
-Conn
connnn said:
Dear OP,
You're the reason our data is throttled. Thanks bud.
-Conn
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Actually, anyone who has their data throttled would be their own reason.
With any type of internet connection, there will always be heavy users...
...at least as long as there is porn on the internet.
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Actually, anyone who has their data throttled would be their own reason.
With any type of internet connection, there will always be heavy users...
...at least as long as there is porn on the internet.
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i second that. i love flash. stupid g1 could never handle it.
I have tried to search for an answer to this with no real success. I believe that it is possible to connect a USB 3G dongle such as Huawei E1750 to an MK809 such as Justop K9. Hopefully someone will be able to confirm that? Then I would like to know if it is possible to then share that 3G connection via wifi tethering to other devices.
Basically I'm trying to combine 3G modem and wifi router into a hdmi stick/dongle. If anyone has tried this I would be interested to hear their experience. If it is someting that is really not practical then I more than likely will give it a miss. I would need to use this as my "main" internet connection, although I wouldn't consider myself a "power user" I do stream youtube and online such as BBC iPlayer. I have had good experience with wifi tethering using my old HTC HD2 (flashed with android 4.0) and can get 4Mb connection speeds which allows me to stream no problem.
If this works well I would then be connecting a usb hard drive and using webdav server app to share the contents to my other devices.
I would appreciate any guidance! :good:
P.S. I notice that I'm not supposed to post questions in here, but I can see a few questions already within this section and it seems like the best place for this question to me. Mods, please move it if you need to.
I think it could be done as long as the router has a connection but just a bit of info, I watch YouTube quite a bit maybe 4-5 20/30min vids a day and in the past 7 days YouTube has used probably 12gig of data. Since everything is HD. I know a lot of dongles have data limits. IPlayer doesn't work great these devices for now you have to use the flash version and its a little buggy. Its best to get it from xbmc add on.
Oh and the 808 doesn't have tether not sure about the 809
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Thanks for the reply.
It's a virgin media contract I'm looking at. Supposedly truly unlimited according to vm themselves and can be used to tether. I got my dad one and he uses it to tether his laptop and ubisurfer when away. It works very well when I've tried it myself.
Thanks for the tip about tethering on 808. I imagine this is just a software limitation? It was possibly never considered when the rom was built. I think there are Google play apps that will enable this on phones that didn't have it as an original option. I'm hoping it will work in a similar way.
Xbmc will be on my list. I assume it's possible to side load flash onto these things.
Can't answer your 3g question but just bought the mk809 justop k9 and it comes pre installed with flash. Have xbmc installed and it works brilliantly with streaming from my server, an app called tvcatchup and all the usual on demand add ons.
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yes that would be interesting. I know that a lot of usb devices are supported. tried a webcam on it. Works perfect in combination with skype. for wath I read. its also possible to use a usb to lan adapter. maybe an option for the poor reception.
but a 3g dongle. got to see that.
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Can't answer your 3g question but just bought the mk809 justop k9 and it comes pre installed with flash. Have xbmc installed and it works brilliantly with streaming from my server, an app called tvcatchup and all the usual on demand add ons.
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Thanks for that. It is nice to hear a positive review about the Justop K9 as I was considering one anyway. This project might just save me some money having to buy other equipment. Would you be able to try whether you can install one of the free non root wifi tether apps from the play store? Obviously there would be no internet connection, but if you can establish a wifi hotspot and connect a phone to it then it's a good sign.
As for the USB to ethernet, I have a couple of those connectors spare. I'm aware you can use them on various android devices to give them an internet connection, but I don't know whether the reverse is true? Is it possible to share a 3G connection to the USB, and via the ethernet connection to a separate wifi router for instance? I can't find a good answer to that. I'm gonna have a play with my TF700 and see what I can accomplish!
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John
No need to install an app, android 4 onwards supports wifi tethering natively. Just needed to go into the 'more' menu and set up from there. Managed to connect easily with my Sony Tablet but, as you say, couldn't browse as the stick wifi was being used to tether.
Spoke too soon on the on demand stuff, seems itv player, 4od and 5od have been messing around with their encryption so the xbmc add ons have stopped working, I'm sure the devs are working on it. Iplayer add on still works and there is a work around using firefox anyway.
Can't help with your other query I'm afraid, sorry.
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Hey Everyone,
I've seen posts about problems with YouTube constantly buffering on HQ and have tried every possible solution I've seen, but I'm still having issues. I am hoping someone can help me.
HERE'S WHAT IS INTERESTING... when I use my phone as a hotspot (T-mobile HSPA+) and connect my N7 to it, YouTube works absolutely fine, no buffering at all! What is up with that? The internet at my house is fast (Verizon Fios) and I can stream and play everything fine on my N7 except for YouTube videos. But, once again... YouTube works fine when I connect my N7 to my phone's much slower wifi hotspot! So, obviously YouTube (both the app and web browser have the problem, but the app seems a little worse) has a problem with my home internet connection. Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose and fix this? I've tried rebooting the router. The Verizon Fios box is a kind of "all in one" device, so I can't swap out another router. Is there any settings I can try, either on my N7 or somehow on the router itself (don't know much about routers)? Any ideas? The Nexus 7 is such a great device for watching videos, etc... it's really aggravating to not be able to watch YouTube videos on it.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Mebborne
You're not the only one buddy. It happens to me as well. It's really annoying. When I watch YouTube videos on my PC it's quick and on the n7 you know..
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I don't think its the device's fault but rather the application.
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You're not the only one buddy. It happens to me as well. It's really annoying. When I watch YouTube videos on my PC it's quick and on the n7 you know..
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I don't think its the device's fault but rather the application.
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Thanks for the reply. I definitely realize that I'm not the only one. But, why does YouTube work absolutely fine on my N7 when I tether it to my phone (a much slower connection)? This means that YouTube CAN work on the N7. It just doesn't like some routers apparently, or something like that. And why does YouTube work fine for some people and not for others on the N7?
I doubt this is the problem, but your neighbors could be using the same channel as your WiFi. So their WiFi interferes with yours. You can download an app called WiFi analyzer. It will show you the channels you and your neighbors are using. It will also show you better channels than what you are on. You then go to the IP address of your router and change your channel.
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I doubt this is the problem, but your neighbors could be using the same channel as your WiFi. So their WiFi interferes with yours. You can download an app called WiFi analyzer. It will show you the channels you and your neighbors are using. It will also show you better channels than what you are on. You then go to the IP address of your router and change your channel.
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Could be. Could even be microwave ovens or portable phones/base stations if the WiFi link is using 802.11b or 802.11g (or even 802.11n, depending), as they also overlap the same ISM bands that B and G use.
Resolving performance problems (as opposed to gross connectivity issues) is tedious work - the root of the problem can be in a very large search space.
With enough packet sniffing (tcpdump or Wireshark) you can sometimes ferret out network performance problems; but it's not for the faint of heart. Your eyes will bleed from looking at raw packet data without purpose-built tools. You have to follow the data where it goes, too - you don't know if the problem is delays as a result of small % of packet loss, or something more twisty than that. If the cause is a small % of packet loss, you would be looking for TCP segment retransmissions by the server, or duplicated ACKs from the client (tablet). The will occur along one link (e.g. WiFi) but much less frequently along a different link.
Sometimes problems can be detected by just looking at gross statistics on each network interface (e.g. /sys/class/net/wlan0/statistics/* on the tablet versus something equivalent on the router) - even easier to do if you can manage to clear the counters without rebooting as you can then run a "youtube test" right after clearing them to see if the drop/error counts are actually happening when you are using the app. Either that or just collect them twice (immediately before and after the youtube test) and use subtraction.
The OP might be able to prove it's not his ISP link if it is possible to use a OTG+USB Ethernet nic plugged in to the N7 (use ethernet to his home router instead of wireless), but I can't say I've tried this myself, and I suppose he probably would prefer not to spend money solving the problem if it can be avoided.
There are some tcpdump-based tools such as "Shark for Root" on the market. Not that using the phone itself for sniffing will be all that easier, but setting up a wireless sniffer is even harder and more expensive, and since the OPs router is an "all-in-one" box, the only way to intercept traffic off of it will be if it's admin tools allow you to dump traffic to a designated ethernet port. Not typical for consumer devices, but who knows.
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... when I use my phone as a hotspot (T-mobile HSPA+) and connect my N7 to it...
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To the extent that the YouTube app is unaware of which interface it is getting it's data from, that's a demonstration right there that the problem is probably not the N7 or the YouTube app. Could be your ISP or your home network.
Out of curiosity - does your phone do WiFi tether in Infrastructure Mode, or is this a USB tether? (afaik, the N7 doesn't work with ad-hoc WiFi tether... unless you've got some tricks up your sleeve).
hope some of that helped
I've also been having this issue since i got my N7. It happens on every single WiFi network I'm on. Using the web based YouTube doesn't help either. I was getting so aggravating today that i almost threw my tablet across the room.....
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I doubt this is the problem, but your neighbors could be using the same channel as your WiFi. So their WiFi interferes with yours. You can download an app called WiFi analyzer. It will show you the channels you and your neighbors are using. It will also show you better channels than what you are on. You then go to the IP address of your router and change your channel.
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Thanks for trying to help! I tried the app you mentioned and experimented with changing channels accordingly. At first, I thought it may have been helping, but soon it came back the same. I do appreciate the help though!
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Out of curiosity - does your phone do WiFi tether in Infrastructure Mode, or is this a USB tether? (afaik, the N7 doesn't work with ad-hoc WiFi tether... unless you've got some tricks up your sleeve).
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write all that. I'm afraid most of it was above my head unfortunately. But, I'm trying to use your words to help me as I research at least
As for your question above, I think I may have used the word "tether" wrong. I just meant, when I use my phone as a wireless hotspot and connect to it on my N7 YouTube videos playback flawlessly, which seriously makes no sense. The wireless network at my house is much, much faster and I use it all the time to stream YouTube or hi-def movies to my TV (Netflix) without a hiccup. And my Nexus 7 streams Netflix as well just fine over my home network. It's just YouTube that is constantly buffering. Which would imply that it's the YouTube app... but, then why does the YouTube app stream fine when connected to my much slower phone connection? It's not making any sense!
I really appreciate you trying to help!
Thanks again,
Mebborne
Did you see this thread?
I wasn't aware of it when I responded to your post. Seems like you are in good company. I didn't read that whole thread, so I can't summarize or tell you if there are any fixes. OTOH, given the number of people saying "me too", I wonder if it is an ISP issue - purposely throttling of connections coming from youtube.
My mom has just been moved into a nursing home, and they have Wifi, but they have the network firewalling her smart TV from the internet. Her phone and Ipad work fine on the network streaming Netflix, AppleTV, etc. but not the TV. I can't get chromecast working either. I have 2 shields at home, and was wondering if there is a work-around that lets the shield appear as a phone or tablet on the network. I'm would like to try it out on one of my shield pros before I drop the $$$ just to find out its not possible. Sideloading or rooting a possibility? Simplicity is paramount and it needs to work automatically since she's 78 and obviously tech savvy. Any suggestions?
It's the nursing home's firewall which you presumably have no access to. You could use cell data to circumvent it with an unlimited data plan if the signal strength is sufficient. 4G is capable of streaming HD but lower resolution may be needed depending on bandwidth. Use a cell phone as a hot spot... most tethering is capped at [email protected] so you may need to hack that as well.
Or simply use a phone or tablet to view it...
Never tried it as TV sucks today, but in the 60's it was a sight to behold. She probably misses her soaps, some things never change.