Why the need for addtl cables? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have seen quite a few threads on certified usb c cables. This may be a dumb question but why is there a need for people to buy other type c cables if the 6p comes with them?

Extras buddy.. Not everyone wants to use the same cable everywhere
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mattdub1 said:
I have seen quite a few threads on certified usb c cables. This may be a dumb question but why is there a need for people to buy other type c cables if the 6p comes with them?
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Because someone might want to leave one at work, get a charger for their car, and just have a longer cable or extras. My cat ends up chewing on my cables while I am sleeping, so I am waiting on more cables to come before I leave my charger out at night.

One for car, work, bedside, etc.

Thanks guys. I figured it was probably for extras but wanted to double check as I'm still figuring out this type c thing and didn't know if I need to buy any other cables

Isn't the included Type C-Standard A cable a bit short for charging from a desktop computer?

stevemw said:
Isn't the included Type C-Standard A cable a bit short for charging from a desktop computer?
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It's only like 8". Might work for a laptop, but not a desktop with a high USB port.

ArkAngel06 said:
It's only like 8". Might work for a laptop, but not a desktop with a high USB port.
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That's why I purchased the additional C to A cable from the Google Store.

The included Type C to Type A cable is less than a foot, so it's relatively useless. Many people want a cable for home, work, and their car.

I needed one for Android Auto.

Wait....is it possible to have too many cables? For anything?
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The USB Type-C to A cable is short, but I just use a Type-A USB extender cable that I had lying around to make it longer. Short-cable problem solved.

ajgftw said:
Wait....is it possible to have too many cables? For anything?
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No

I personally like to have a charger available wherever I go whether it be my office, home, car, parents house etc. and since no one has a USB c cable yet I have to provide my own

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USB cable?

Is it USB3?
Where can I buy one to recharge my n7 in 2h30min?like original cable.
Mine is dead....
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Its a normal micro USB cable, USB 2. A cable is a cable, most of them should work (all of them actually, a standard is a standard...)
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issak42 said:
Its a normal micro USB cable, USB 2 ... most of them should work (all of them actually, a standard is a standard...)
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+1 Look around, the Asus charger is rated at 2A and that's the "trick" for fast charging, modules/generic by others are often rated at .5A to .7A like those in (non-smart) phone days from Motorola & LG's or even Samsung's. The standard/universal micro-usb cable from HTC's are great (got like half of a dozen of them around) and their charger is rated at 1A and it will charge the N7 at a slower pace, but it's fine for overnight and so far so good, no problems (knock on woods - )
Oh, yeah, BTW - those generic ones from eBay or sold on Amazon as a bundle are just as good in that, they work too - dah dah. From what I know, practically all of these cables - branded or otherwise, are made in China ...
Do you have a cell phone? Most likely it uses the same cable. I charge my S2 and N7 with the same charger/cable combo. You can find one at almost any cell phone store.
Every USB Cable will fit as long as its a micro USB. loads of places sell them but eBay would be your best bet, PC World is a rip off
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Cheap thin cables have significant resistance, and do not deliver 5 volts at one amp. If the drop is severe, the Nexus will go into slow charge mode, like charging from a PC.
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I was also under the impression that the supplied N7 cable is a USB3 cable and the charger output is 5V @ 2Amps. If I use the original charger, I can substitute my Bionic cable and it seems to charge just as well. The supplied cable is quite thin compared to the typical usb2 cable.
Nexus 7 > Nexus 7 General > [SOLVED] Nexus 7 charger/cable issues.
USB3 is an entirely different kind of connector and has minimal PC support as of yet and is not backwards compatible. USB2 is almost universally supported by virtually every PC manufacturer.
Miami_Son said:
USB3 is an entirely different kind of connector and has minimal PC support as of yet and is not backwards compatible. USB2 is almost universally supported by virtually every PC manufacturer.
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AFAIK USB3 isn't entirely different from USB2, and actually backwards compatible. I have USB3 HDD Drive and can easily connect it to my old laptop or USB2 port on my PC. same with my USB3 card reader, i can use it on my USB2 with no problem. Downside just reduced speed, USB3 to USB2 will only reached max speed of USB2 capable of.
I have two USB3 ports on my desktop and they look nothing like the standard USB2 ports. I also have a USB3 hard drive and its cable will not fit anything but the USB3 ports on my desktop.
According to Tom's, there are significant differences even if you can plug one into the other.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-superspeed-external-drive,2670-2.html
Max speed will always reduced if you plug USB3 device to USB2 ports.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_3.0_connectors
Miami_Son said:
I have two USB3 ports on my desktop and they look nothing like the standard USB2 ports. I also have a USB3 hard drive and its cable will not fit anything but the USB3 ports on my desktop.
According to Tom's, there are significant differences even if you can plug one into the other.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-superspeed-external-drive,2670-2.html
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The first caption in the article you list says "USB 3.0 Type A Connector. Yes, it’s backward compatible with USB 2.0." which contradicts your statement about your hard drive and cable. You may be thinking about the micro USB Type B connector for usb 3, which is a different thing entirely.
Groid said:
The first caption in the article you list says "USB 3.0 Type A Connector. Yes, it’s backward compatible with USB 2.0." which contradicts your statement about your hard drive and cable. You may be thinking about the micro USB Type B connector for usb 3, which is a different thing entirely.
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I am only going off what's on MY motherboard as far as connectors and they are visually different from the USB2 connectors. My USB3 HDD enclosure came with its own cable and the end that plugs into the USB3 ports on my MB does not fit the USB2 ports. Apparently, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.:silly:
Miami_Son said:
I am only going off what's on MY motherboard as far as connectors and they are visually different from the USB2 connectors. My USB3 HDD enclosure came with its own cable and the end that plugs into the USB3 ports on my MB does not fit the USB2 ports. Apparently, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.:silly:
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I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
Wiki on usb3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Connectors
Reeonimus said:
I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
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I'm currently in L.A. until 2/26, so not until then. I was somewhat surprised myself because I assumed they would be backward compatible, but there is definitely something different on the USB3 end of the cable and on my motherboard that prevented me from plugging it into any of the USB2 ports.
Reeonimus said:
I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
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Yeah that strange to have non standard usb ports on pc. Maybe its esata or something.
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USB-C adapter

I have seen some comments and reviews that some USB-C cables are dangerous to use on our phones. Mainly the "Amazon Comment" from a Google Engineer who said that a particular USB-C cable could harm the device.
I am looking to buy some cheap Micro-USB to USB-C adapters for my current chargers, does anyone know if they are safe to use?
Is there a thread that has all the tested and confirmed cables, adapters and chargers? Seems this USB-C thing is more confusing than I though it would be.
I think you are better off buying a USB 2.0 Type A to Type C cable instead of a micro USB adapter. This one has been recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
Something like this is NOT compliant, according to the same Google engineer:
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-TechMatte®-Convert-Connector-OnePlus/dp/B0151RKYBG/
bummer, I don't need "fast charging" all the time so I'm ok with standard charging speed for the most part. However I certainly don't want to "harm" my device with a cable or adapter that is not properly engineered.
Most if not all of the cables he recommends are around $20 for just a cable. Craziness...
I don't think you will damage the phone, but there's a risk you will damage the other side, i.e. charger or computer port. Now frying a $10 charger is not a big deal as long as you are not setting the house on fire, but frying a computer USB port is a different story ... that's what I'm really worried about.
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Been steadily increasing since the engineer made his post. I understand, but on the other hand, I need a cable.
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Good thing I ordered 2 the day the article came out. I thought they would raise prices with all the free publicity they got from the article.
What about those from one +? I bought a couple when they were in Stock
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
jsk23 said:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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Based on the photos, it seems identical to the cable Google sells. Wouldn't be surprised if they both came from the same place.
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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wvcadle said:
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
jsk23 said:
I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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wvcadle said:
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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Work, car, etc. I don't want to remember to take the charger/cable with me to work or in the car, I just want to leave them there. And the short cable that comes with the 6P is well ... too short. If you have a desktop computer sitting on the floor or want to charge from the wall or the car, it's just not good enough.
Fair enough!
inneyeseakay said:
The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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This has nothing to do with travel. and the c-a cable it comes with is too damn short to use for much beyond data transfer. Unless the USB a charger is literally plugged in right next to where the phone is going to sit.
I'm trying to figure out how this new charging thing works as far as the required cable/charger.
I bought the iOrange-E cable from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
I have a charger from my old Galaxy S4 that is 5V-1A. When I plug the iOrange in that charger and to my phone, it will say "Charging" but will not steadily charge. What I mean by that is that it'll change states to charging, then it'll stop charging, over and over again.
Another charger I have is 5 V - 2.1 A. With the iOrange cable, this works fine. It will say "Charging."
I have an Anker car charger. This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYQKMRG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I'm not sure what the V/A is on that but with the included USB C -- USB A cable that was shipped with the Nexus 6P, it will charge.
I don't have the USB specs but does anyone know what the minimum is for simply "Charging"? How about "Charging Rapidly?"
I'm assuming my 5V - 1 A charger is too low since it doesn't seem to charge the 6P properly.
I saw the same thing with an HTC 1.5A charger. It charges for a few seconds and then it stops. Not sure what's going on, you'd think that it could at least pull the 500mA or 900mA per the USB spec. Another Anker charger that I have works.
I have this adapter Delmkin
It passes compatibility test using this app CheckR when hooked up with a tronsmart micro-USB cable.
Somebody mentioned that we have all what is needed inside the box and that's true and all but thing is most people don't want to carry their cables/chargers with them wherever they go. I have at least two charger with cables in each room of the house. One in each car and one at work. Makes it convenient since micro-USB cables/chargers are so cheap. Now with USB-C its a different story. One these cables are not cheap at all and now we are learning most of them aren't even complaint with the specs. So it helps to have a tiny adapter to be able to use all the cable I already own with Nexus 6P.

What's a good usb c to c cable that is greater than 6ft?

Both cables included with the 6p are too short for my use cases. I've bought a C to USB 2 cable but I'm having trouble finding USB C cables longer than 6ft. Also I've noticed that there are plenty of issues with cables that are advertised as rated as one thing but really another
I like the one+ cables. I know they are not over 6ft but just a suggestion.....I have a USB extention cable....USB A male to USB A female that I keep in our minivan. It allows any charging cable to stretch across the entire vehicle for long trips when kids/passengers battery is low on any device. They are cheap and worth using if you are using a USB A to USB C....if it's C to C then I'm of no help to you lol
Isn't there a issue with the cable in that it's 2a vs 3a? And yeah primarily concerned with c to c to replace the one packaged with the phone
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andy_d0 said:
Isn't there a issue with the cable in that it's 2a vs 3a? And yeah primarily concerned with c to c to replace the one packaged with the phone
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A cable is a cable, but will be rated to carry a certain amount of power with a certain amount of losses. The longer the run, the more the losses.
Longest I've been able to find are 6.6ft. Cable Matters is one that uses metric and so is a little longer than a 6ft cable. PECHAM C32 [2 Pack] 6.6ft USB 3.1 Type C Cable USB-C to USB-C Male Reversible.

Annoyances of having Type C

Just wanted to rant about how the most universal USB port is still so un-universal. I went to my buddy’s house last night for a party, and my phone died like 20 minutes after I got there. He had a few micro USB cables, but no one had a Type C. I know it’s my fault for not having my own cable, but man, what a pain. I can’t wait until it actually is the norm.
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
Coycaine said:
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
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You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
dianestory2 said:
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
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I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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Just messing with you man! But what he said is right. Grab a couple pairs of them for $20 and dont even worry if you do happen to lose them. The ones I bought could fit in my wallet if needed.
kendrick8997 said:
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
waynerbbx said:
You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
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omg that's perfect. I just bought it now. Thanks!!!
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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in the past it was also the same when micro USB was released whiles everyone was using the mini USB, you will get this problem with a new standard adoption, you have to give it time, and as many has stated, type C has not matured yet.
Just picked this up.
USB Type C Adapter,*Spigen® [56k Resistor to Meet USB-C to Micro USB Standard] Convert Connector Compatible with LG G5, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, OnePlus 2, HTC 10, Apple Macbook [2-Pack] SGP11881 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A1EUVHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_LUjjxb41FXA46
Totally worth it for $8.
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Any adapter will do, power drawn from a micro USB will not cause any harm to your phone, so these manufacture stating 56K resistor is just following the marketing plot to increase sales, but for a proper USB type C cable, a 56K resistor is needed.
I look at the S7 of mine that has micro USB and curse at why Samsung didn't put USB type c in it. I know why they didn't because of the Gear VR but it's really annoying.
I now have 4 devices that use type c and have bought loads of cables too to make sure I have no issues.
I love type c format. Very Apple like with the lightning cable but far more universal.
Yeah, we should never advance technology because it's inconvenient... LOL
I already have several compatible cables and chargers.
The annoying thing is manufacturer's aren't adopting it fast enough.
Just buy and carry a small adapter from micro-USB to USB Type-C. It is smaller than a cable.
The transition is always painful, specially for early adopters.
That's the whole beauty of having a phone with a removable battery. If I'm going out the evening, I swap batteries so there is no worry my phone is gonna die. If need be, I have a type c cable in my car. I bought several cables and adapters when I got the phone so I'd never be caught with a dead phone.
i always have an Adapter with me inside my Portemonnaie's coin section.
i also have three Adapters on fixed cables (work, bed, home pc) and use the LG cable inside my car since its short.
i have no complaints so far since this was not as expensive as buying new cables.
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Buy extra cables, I have the tech mattes that are spec'd correctly and I leave it in the car for the car charger so I'm never without a cable.

USB to USB type c cable

Hi all I want to get a USB to USB c cable so I can charge my phone in the car.
Will any on ebay work or is there some specific one that works better?
I found most of the cables from eBay to be cheap and not offer a full charge Amazon offers some descent cables and can get full reviews on each one. I went through the same thing rushed to Walmart and picked one up
chrisnewton said:
Hi all I want to get a USB to USB c cable so I can charge my phone in the car. Will any on ebay work or is there some specific one that works better?
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If you want rapid charging you need to look for one that either has a USB-C port on the charger (like the stock charger) or one that has a dedicated cable for USB-C that will output 5V/3A. Any charger or cable that uses USB-A will only provide a maximum of 2.4A and will not "rapid charge". This includes QC2 and QC3 which our phone does not support.
chrisnewton said:
Hi all I want to get a USB to USB c cable so I can charge my phone in the car.
Will any on ebay work or is there some specific one that works better?
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Hey there, are you open to using a car adapter? I purchased a Vinsic car adapter which has both USB type C and A ports. It was reviewed favorably by Googler Benson Leung among other products that are fully compliant with USB type C guidelines. It has worked fantastic for me in the year that I've owned this product along with my Nexus 5X. This has been used 3 to 6 times a week.
Thanks all for your help and advice
I got one from eBay that is 10 ft and works really great! It was also not very expensive and a better charger then the short one that came with the phone
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