USB-C adapter - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have seen some comments and reviews that some USB-C cables are dangerous to use on our phones. Mainly the "Amazon Comment" from a Google Engineer who said that a particular USB-C cable could harm the device.
I am looking to buy some cheap Micro-USB to USB-C adapters for my current chargers, does anyone know if they are safe to use?
Is there a thread that has all the tested and confirmed cables, adapters and chargers? Seems this USB-C thing is more confusing than I though it would be.

I think you are better off buying a USB 2.0 Type A to Type C cable instead of a micro USB adapter. This one has been recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
Something like this is NOT compliant, according to the same Google engineer:
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-TechMatte®-Convert-Connector-OnePlus/dp/B0151RKYBG/

bummer, I don't need "fast charging" all the time so I'm ok with standard charging speed for the most part. However I certainly don't want to "harm" my device with a cable or adapter that is not properly engineered.
Most if not all of the cables he recommends are around $20 for just a cable. Craziness...

I don't think you will damage the phone, but there's a risk you will damage the other side, i.e. charger or computer port. Now frying a $10 charger is not a big deal as long as you are not setting the house on fire, but frying a computer USB port is a different story ... that's what I'm really worried about.

I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.

Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Been steadily increasing since the engineer made his post. I understand, but on the other hand, I need a cable.

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I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Good thing I ordered 2 the day the article came out. I thought they would raise prices with all the free publicity they got from the article.

What about those from one +? I bought a couple when they were in Stock

Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.

Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/

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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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Based on the photos, it seems identical to the cable Google sells. Wouldn't be surprised if they both came from the same place.

My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?

Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.

jsk23 said:
I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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wvcadle said:
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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Work, car, etc. I don't want to remember to take the charger/cable with me to work or in the car, I just want to leave them there. And the short cable that comes with the 6P is well ... too short. If you have a desktop computer sitting on the floor or want to charge from the wall or the car, it's just not good enough.

Fair enough!

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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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This has nothing to do with travel. and the c-a cable it comes with is too damn short to use for much beyond data transfer. Unless the USB a charger is literally plugged in right next to where the phone is going to sit.

I'm trying to figure out how this new charging thing works as far as the required cable/charger.
I bought the iOrange-E cable from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
I have a charger from my old Galaxy S4 that is 5V-1A. When I plug the iOrange in that charger and to my phone, it will say "Charging" but will not steadily charge. What I mean by that is that it'll change states to charging, then it'll stop charging, over and over again.
Another charger I have is 5 V - 2.1 A. With the iOrange cable, this works fine. It will say "Charging."
I have an Anker car charger. This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYQKMRG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I'm not sure what the V/A is on that but with the included USB C -- USB A cable that was shipped with the Nexus 6P, it will charge.
I don't have the USB specs but does anyone know what the minimum is for simply "Charging"? How about "Charging Rapidly?"
I'm assuming my 5V - 1 A charger is too low since it doesn't seem to charge the 6P properly.

I saw the same thing with an HTC 1.5A charger. It charges for a few seconds and then it stops. Not sure what's going on, you'd think that it could at least pull the 500mA or 900mA per the USB spec. Another Anker charger that I have works.

I have this adapter Delmkin
It passes compatibility test using this app CheckR when hooked up with a tronsmart micro-USB cable.
Somebody mentioned that we have all what is needed inside the box and that's true and all but thing is most people don't want to carry their cables/chargers with them wherever they go. I have at least two charger with cables in each room of the house. One in each car and one at work. Makes it convenient since micro-USB cables/chargers are so cheap. Now with USB-C its a different story. One these cables are not cheap at all and now we are learning most of them aren't even complaint with the specs. So it helps to have a tiny adapter to be able to use all the cable I already own with Nexus 6P.

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Be VERY Cautious (Wrong Charger)

I've come across a second individual on this forum who has ruined their phone by using an incorrect charger within the last week. I can't stress the importance of making sure you are using valid chargers. Samsung ports are VERY sensitive and from personal experience are expensive mistakes to make. One MAJOR thing I've noticed that most seem not to is the following:
When the phone is plugged in and charging, you notice it becomes less responsive and or buggy while texting or unlocking. Also while charging, haptic seems to get stuck or seems to happen at random intervals when using the phone. Another major one some completely ignore, when the phone actually pops up a notification to enter usb mode while plugged into a charger and not a computer.
Just a warning...
Any more details on what conditions are problematic? I've been using non-Samsung chargers and cords since September with no issue.
I've been using a BlackBerry (Storm1) charger on mine since Christmas with no problems, I mainly use it as I need a much longer cord length than the Samsung.
I also used it on my D1 with no problems.
Still, I'll keep an eye out for glitches, thanks.
I purchased a Samsung OEM charger from Amazon.com (marketplace) for less than $5 to use at my desk at work. I found it by going to samsung.com, finding the item number of the charger I wanted, and searched Amazon that way. It's not a detachable USB charger like what came with my phone, but I assume it's legit. I mean who would manufacture and sell counterfeit phone chargers?
yeah I am curious about this too; I just took USB as to be universal
You can use any charger you want so long as it supplies the correct voltage.
that is electronics 101
I get the USB prompt when charging in my car because it is supplying the voltage that a computer would supply, and less than what an AC charger would supply.
AnotherLameUser said:
You can use any charger you want so long as it supplies the correct voltage.
that is electronics 101
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Negative ghost rider...I've encountered those that have different pin layouts before, fried my samsung moment...but it is true, voltage is key.
You also must be aware of the amperage of the transformer in the charger.. if the amperage is too low it will cause a voltage drop
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Negative ghost rider...I've encountered those that have different pin layouts before, fried my samsung moment...but it is true, voltage is key.
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USB is a standard, why would it have a different pin layout?
I'm using a "rocketfish" micro USB cable and USB ports to charge my fascy. Could this pose any issues?
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Skrazz said:
I'm using a "rocketfish" micro USB cable and USB ports to charge my fascy. Could this pose any issues?
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Check to see the stock setup and compare. I just decided to post this as a word of caution b/c I was questioned earlier if it was normal that their phone would loose sensitivity and act choppy when plugged in.
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Check to see the stock setup and compare. I just decided to post this as a word of caution b/c I was questioned earlier if it was normal that their phone would loose sensitivity and act choppy when plugged in.
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My touch screen would act weird when on the stock rom using the SAMSUNG USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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My touch screen would act weird when on the stock rom using the SAMSUNG USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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Then something is wrong. If you notice it starts jumping around when plugged in, there is a flux in flow or some of the pins have been messed up.
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USB is a standard, why would it have a different pin layout?
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USB itself is a standard (it will always output 5v at up to 500mA). Charging over aUSB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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Charging over a USB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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I read that in more of a "what kind of a sadist would design his micro usb charger to behave differently from another?" kind of of way. It's a heck of a cruel practical joke given that
A) phone makers have finally standardized to micro usb after already creating a huge mess with chargers in the past.
B) micro USB is practically exclusive to mobile devices.
C) if there really are cables that use different wiring, there is no easy way to tell.
FWIW I am getting by just fine with a ultra cheap Chinese USB car charger and micro USB cable combo. I also have interchangeable Plantronics, LG, and generic AC USB chargers that I plug ight same cables into. No issues, luckily for me. Pretty disappointed to find out I have dodged a bullet here.
NOTE:
LG: 0.2A in, 5.1V, 0.7A out
Samsung: 0.15A in, 5.0V 0.7A out
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Then something is wrong. If you notice it starts jumping around when plugged in, there is a flux in flow or some of the pins have been messed up.
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But the thing is, after I flashed a new rom, I had no more problems.
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USB itself is a standard (it will always output 5v at up to 500mA). Charging over aUSB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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The wonderful thing about standards is that there is so many to chose from. : /
I've been dodging the bullet too with my cheapo car charger although strange behavior would have thrown up a flag.
When I visited my parents and used my dad's charger my screen would not work when plugged in.
I guess I should consider myself lucky...
Been using cheap,knock off chargers we sell at work since day one never had a problem, also use an after market droud one charger at night. come to think about it I never really use a sammy charger
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No Charger In The Box?

Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
Dr_Knickers said:
Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
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I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
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It follows the policy for Amazon Kindle HD 8.9, where no charger is included but it includes the micro USB charging wire. Also, Nexus 4 includes all the accessories including charging wire and the charger.
Best regards,
Dr_Knickers said:
Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
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Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
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I was going to link that photo gallery. Looks like the same exact 2-piece AC adapter the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses.
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
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Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
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I've not heard anything about it, and Google would be shouting about it if it did, so i'd say it doesn't unfortunately.

My OnePlus One melted!!

I just got a new OnePlus One over the holidays. I've noticed that periodically it was getting very hot when I was charging it, both when using a car and wall charger and multiple different cables. On Saturday night I left it on the charger overnight and in the morning the phone was melted around the charger cable! Check out the pics below.
Only thing worse is that OnePlus says that it's likely because I was using a 3rd party charging cable (from my Samsung Galaxy S3) so they won't provide a refund or replace it. But they will let me pay $350 for a new mother board. So I'm out $400 and a brand new phone.
Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
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Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
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No, I just got it. Didn't root or anything. When it got hot I rebooted the phone .. what is strange is that it didn't seem to always overheat. But it happened more than once on different chargers and cables.
I've been using a Samsung charger and cable that came from a galaxy s4 on so many different phones and nothing ever happened to them. Even have charged my one plus one with it. It was charging very slowly so I just used the one it came with and it charges at full speed.
Try talking with a different person and not mention using a different cable and charger. Its definitely not because of that. You deserve a new one.
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How??
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How??
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Exactly...
abhishekv09 said:
How??
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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kinda like using a skill saw on one of those two dollar 12' household extension cords. everything gets hot.
It's really odd. The One itself uses a pretty powerful 2A charger :/
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Hmm... did you charge your phone directly when it was still hot?
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results). Seems like OP used the OnePlus One charger rated at 2A with a cable which was probably rated for 0.7-1A (that seems to be the standard S3 charger's output).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
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Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
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Convenience of not carrying that same cable everywhere? OP seemed to be using chargers at home and in his car, so it's easier to have a cable for each of those chargers.
Maybe the phone is defective. I hate it when OEM'S being cheap.
C'mon One Plus. Don't be like the ****ty samsung. Make the difference
Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
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Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
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He needs to change the fried motherboard
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I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
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Leaving it on charge overnight isn't good for the battery anyway, the more time a lithium battery spends at peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it degrades.
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WHen you don't have the official charger/cable with you, I ALWAYS tell people to charge it via a computer USB port (0.5 A) instead to be on the safe side (with whatever cable you plan to use).
And never mix/match your USB cable/charger ports.

Not thrilled about USB-C

I remember a couple years ago how glad I was when I swapped my original Asus Transformer tablet with its proprietary connector for a newer device because for once all of our phones and tablets had the same microUSB connector and we could use all our chargers interchangeably. Now with the 5x it's a return to the old days. Right now we have chargers in a few places around the house plus in our two cars, so anything can get a top-up anywhere with the same cable.
Once the 5x gets here, it'll mean that I have to have a second cable -- if not charger -- anywhere I want to charge it, including a second cable/charger stuffed into the consoles on the cars. At this point in time, a USB-C port might as well be considered "proprietary!" Yes, the changeover has to start somewhere, but why am I always on the bleeding edge?
Another problem is that most of my Nexus 5 charging is done on my wireless charging pad, and that's going bye-bye as well.
I am gladly upgrading to 3A fast charging... technological advancements, yo. Be ready for fast charge wireless next....
It's the age old problem... "WTF, I just installed 3 gas lamps and now they come out with this thing called electricity!"
And cables are so cheap. At least most of my micro USB cables are beat to hell and falling apart. It'll be nice to have a phone where the charge cable stays in while I'm driving.
This really isn't new at all. Google is doing us a favor by going ahead and moving us along into the next technology phase. It does suck that all those spare cables you accumulate from Amazon over the years suddenly, at once, become useless, however, you can get cheap ass adapters still, extensions etc... just have to do it. Do it once and it's done. Get everyone a Nexus 5x or 6p and load up on new cables/docks/chargers etc... bring on the fun!
I'm looking forward to the switch. I remember when micro usb became the standard. I was so happy, because HTC used to use that weird charging port, which was almost mini-usb (I think), but it had that squared off corner, so you couldn't use the cables for any other mini usb device. I'll just buy a couple adapters for my existing chargers, and be done with it. I'll accumulate other usb c cables as time goes on.
That's how I felt when I first got the oneplus two but first thing I bought was a micro USB female to usb-c male adapter off amazon. Didn't have to replace any of my original micro USB cables. Plus Google will give you a usb-c cable so that'll do for now as far as I'm concerned. I recommend this adapter if you still want to use your existing micro USB cables.
In case you weren't aware all cell phones manufactures have to start using type c cables in 2016 in Europe, that includes Apple. So a year from now type c will be the normal
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well the difference is that usb c will eventually be the standard most companies will use. sans apple, probably.
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well the difference is that usb c will eventually be the standard most companies will use. sans apple, probably.
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Yeah, it's not like this is a weird, or custom cable. This is the new USB standard. It's like you're complaining when we started swapping serial ports for USB. It might be inconvenient, but it is better, and sooner or later, everything will be using it. May as well start stocking up on cables now. I already ordered a few.
I think the best cable available is this $8.99 yoozon one that Amazon sells. Type C to Type A, no need for new car chargers or adapters at home. Just buy like 2-4 of these if you got many Type C devices.
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Yeah, it's not like this is a weird, or custom cable. This is the new USB standard. It's like you're complaining when we started swapping serial ports for USB. It might be inconvenient, but it is better, and sooner or later, everything will be using it. May as well start stocking up on cables now. I already ordered a few.
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i made a mistake in my post. usb c will not be the new standard, it IS the new standard.
it just takes some time to spread, obviously, but it will inevitably spread.
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new macbook uses it.
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new macbook uses it.
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correct. i was strictly thinking of smartphones.
rochrunner said:
I remember a couple years ago how glad I was when I swapped my original Asus Transformer tablet with its proprietary connector for a newer device because for once all of our phones and tablets had the same microUSB connector and we could use all our chargers interchangeably. Now with the 5x it's a return to the old days. Right now we have chargers in a few places around the house plus in our two cars, so anything can get a top-up anywhere with the same cable.
Once the 5x gets here, it'll mean that I have to have a second cable -- if not charger -- anywhere I want to charge it, including a second cable/charger stuffed into the consoles on the cars. At this point in time, a USB-C port might as well be considered "proprietary!" Yes, the changeover has to start somewhere, but why am I always on the bleeding edge?
Another problem is that most of my Nexus 5 charging is done on my wireless charging pad, and that's going bye-bye as well.
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I agree. Early adopting a connector isn't fun. It's like having a proprietary cable all over again. Google made it worse by using it as an excuse to remove wireless charging and not giving an adapter or cable to connect to 99% of current PCs/phone chargers as well which basically means that $380 phone becomes $390+. Being that the USB C connector in the Nexus 5X is only USB 2.0 it would have made much more sense to include a USB C to A cable instead and used qualcomm quick charging..
Evo_Shift said:
I agree. Early adopting a connector isn't fun. It's like having a proprietary cable all over again. Google made it worse by using it as an excuse to remove wireless charging and not giving an adapter or cable to connect to 99% of current PCs/phone chargers as well which basically means that $380 phone becomes $390+.
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I agree that it sucks Google remove wireless charging, but they did it because the technology is not available for metal cased phones. However multiple devices including cell phones will use USB C starting next year. It's not an option, a bill/law was passed in Europe stating no new cell phones will be allowed to be sold in Europe unless that used the approved standard plug which is USB C. If I remember correctly, the law applies to more than cell devices. I for one thing the law makes since and it's necessary, it's forces companies to stop trying to make more profit by creating proprietary cables which are no longer used 3 years later.
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I agree that it sucks Google remove wireless charging, but they did it because the technology is not available for metal cased phones. However multiple devices including cell phones will use USB C starting next year. It's not an option, a bill/law was passed in Europe stating no new cell phones will be allowed to be sold in Europe unless that used the approved standard plug which is USB C. If I remember correctly, the law applies to more than cell devices. I for one thing the law makes since and it's necessary, it's forces companies to stop trying to make more profit by creating proprietary cables which are no longer used 3 years later.
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Personally, I'm fine with companies using plastic for phone bodies. I don't know why everyone goes crazy over a metal/glass bodied phone. Plastic is probably the best for durability over time. Metal, while durable, gets dented really easily, and shows scratches wear much more than other materials. Glass front and back is much more prone to cracking, and once glass is cracked, it would bug me to no end, and I would have to replace it. Plastic, while it will scratch, and get pitted from drops/scratches/etc, doesn't block RF. It's lightweight, and is more forgiving of the screen, compared to other materials.
And with plastic, you can use your wireless charging with no issues.
I have a feeling we will see metal bodied phones with a cut-out, and a plastic cover where the wireless charging coil is placed in future.
murfi said:
correct. i was strictly thinking of smartphones.
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Sure... but hard to see them not going with it in the end with their own notebooks now featuring it.
minnemike said:
Sure... but hard to see them not going with it in the end with their own notebooks now featuring it.
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They could still opt for lightning-to-usb c cables.
murfi said:
They could still opt for lightning-to-usb c cables.
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If i recall well, in 2014 the European union decided that all phone should use USB standard starting from 2017. This indeed includes Apple which will either have to do a US version with it's lightening and EU version with USB or use USB on all their devices. Lightning to usb do not seem like a viable option in the EU.
Additionally they stated to use USB and dropped thunderbolt on their macbook so i guess they will do the same on iphones, maybe for the 7. I bet they want to reimburse their lightning investment and avoid losing face ; switching to USB too soon would be seen as acknowledging than USB is better than their technology.
PS: Are you French? You write like french guys...
Good riddance. Micro USB is fragile and an overall crap connector. Bring on USB C. It's about time we got a better standard if you ask me.

Annoyances of having Type C

Just wanted to rant about how the most universal USB port is still so un-universal. I went to my buddy’s house last night for a party, and my phone died like 20 minutes after I got there. He had a few micro USB cables, but no one had a Type C. I know it’s my fault for not having my own cable, but man, what a pain. I can’t wait until it actually is the norm.
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
Coycaine said:
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
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You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
dianestory2 said:
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
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I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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Just messing with you man! But what he said is right. Grab a couple pairs of them for $20 and dont even worry if you do happen to lose them. The ones I bought could fit in my wallet if needed.
kendrick8997 said:
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
waynerbbx said:
You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
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omg that's perfect. I just bought it now. Thanks!!!
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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in the past it was also the same when micro USB was released whiles everyone was using the mini USB, you will get this problem with a new standard adoption, you have to give it time, and as many has stated, type C has not matured yet.
Just picked this up.
USB Type C Adapter,*Spigen® [56k Resistor to Meet USB-C to Micro USB Standard] Convert Connector Compatible with LG G5, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, OnePlus 2, HTC 10, Apple Macbook [2-Pack] SGP11881 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A1EUVHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_LUjjxb41FXA46
Totally worth it for $8.
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Any adapter will do, power drawn from a micro USB will not cause any harm to your phone, so these manufacture stating 56K resistor is just following the marketing plot to increase sales, but for a proper USB type C cable, a 56K resistor is needed.
I look at the S7 of mine that has micro USB and curse at why Samsung didn't put USB type c in it. I know why they didn't because of the Gear VR but it's really annoying.
I now have 4 devices that use type c and have bought loads of cables too to make sure I have no issues.
I love type c format. Very Apple like with the lightning cable but far more universal.
Yeah, we should never advance technology because it's inconvenient... LOL
I already have several compatible cables and chargers.
The annoying thing is manufacturer's aren't adopting it fast enough.
Just buy and carry a small adapter from micro-USB to USB Type-C. It is smaller than a cable.
The transition is always painful, specially for early adopters.
That's the whole beauty of having a phone with a removable battery. If I'm going out the evening, I swap batteries so there is no worry my phone is gonna die. If need be, I have a type c cable in my car. I bought several cables and adapters when I got the phone so I'd never be caught with a dead phone.
i always have an Adapter with me inside my Portemonnaie's coin section.
i also have three Adapters on fixed cables (work, bed, home pc) and use the LG cable inside my car since its short.
i have no complaints so far since this was not as expensive as buying new cables.
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Buy extra cables, I have the tech mattes that are spec'd correctly and I leave it in the car for the car charger so I'm never without a cable.

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