Hi there guys,
Although active in the rom part of the 1+1 forum, I rarely spend any time in the general section and I thought why not post something? so a little backstory on the cable.
I want the fastest way to charge my phone and what can I do to improve that?
- Get a better charger
- Get a better MicroUSB cable
Our stock charger is capable of 5v 2.1A well the actual amperage it can give is less than 2A, I can't draw more than 1.8-1.9A on my phone even with my custom cable
So I got a quickcharge 2.0 charger just to try it and have a spare one, finally it became my main charger as it's rated at 5v 2A but actually can output 2.1A!!! phone is drawing that much, ranging from 2 to 2.1A - with stock cable it's a bit less than 2A but pretty close(around 1.97A to be precise)
So how's this custom cable I've build? it's like this:
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So it's a 18AWG and it's rated for "Maximum amps for chassis wiring: 16A" and "Maximum amps for power transmission: 2.3A" ..so it's capable of sustaining 2.3A without any problem(heat or power loss), if you use a very cheap microusb cable it can take up to 6 hours to charge your phone(as you can imagine the cable can play significant part) - Cable wire is of course copper so you know
Nice work, I've also noticed I get 1.6 to 1.8 amps on stock cable and charget
evronetwork said:
So it's a 18AWG and it's rated for "Maximum amps for chassis wiring: 16A" and "Maximum amps for power transmission: 2.3A" ..so it's capable of sustaining 2.3A without any problem
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Very nice. Maybe a photo tutorial or youtube vid on construction?
naeem76 said:
Nice work, I've also noticed I get 1.6 to 1.8 amps on stock cable and charget
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I'm close on stock(cable+charger)
pbergonzi said:
Very nice. Maybe a photo tutorial or youtube vid on construction?
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I'm too lazy to do that hhahaa(as a computer tech guy I do many stuff and I have record many of my actions but I'm too lazy to edit my videos and post them online), but honestly trying to fit an 18AWG cable in a usb and microusb jack is pain in the a** because the wire is quite thick but it's an one time hassle, I permanently fix the wire(can't be removed even if I wanted to, the only way to fit new microusb and usb jacks is to cut the wire) - Trimming plastic inside the jacks without doing any damage just to fit the cable can be time consuming :crying:
Something that I didn't mention is the size of the cable, its the same size as stock
P.S. At best you'll find 20AWG cables in the market and some cost quite much
evronetwork said:
I'm close on stock(cable+charger)
I'm too lazy to do that hhahaa
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Thanks. Really I was simply wondering to which contacts the wires went, but I'm sure the layout is on the web, and I'm probably not gonna do it anyway.
pbergonzi said:
Thanks. Really I was simply wondering to which contacts the wires went, but I'm sure the layout is on the web, and I'm probably not gonna do it anyway.
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If you were close to me(same town or next one) I could do it for you for a small fee but don't do it if you're not very capable with ur hands and soldering iron
P.S. soldering them wrong can actually damage the phone permanently or even make the batter explode and/or charger(it's basically a short circuit) - you've been warned
My jacks are filled so after I solder the connections they can't be removed ..there are airtight also this cable is suitable if you use public chargers as no data would be "stolen" if one of the public chargers is modified - this uses only two wires and it's for charging
evronetwork said:
If you were close to me(same town or next one) I could do it for you for a small fee but don't do it if you're not very capable with ur hands and soldering iron
P.S. soldering them wrong can actually damage the phone permanently or even make the batter explode and/or charger(it's basically a short circuit) - you've been warned
My jacks are filled so after I solder the connections they can't be removed ..there are airtight also this cable is suitable if you use public chargers as no data would be "stolen" if one of the public chargers is modified - this uses only two wires and it's for charging
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Nice work. Thank you. The data security is a nice feature.
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Nice work. Thank you. The data security is a nice feature.
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On the bad side, if you need to transfer data you can't with this cable ..but I rarely use cable for data(I mostly use wifi connections to transfer data, or bluetooth) - Why? unessesary small-chargings will harm your battery, so if you connect the phone to your computer to transfer data better let it charge up rather than do your job and remove it, less than 1% charge frequent uses it will shorten ur battery life significantly
Even if I wanted to make it a full fledge cable with 18 AWG wire this is impossible, also it will become heavy for a usb cable. I barely fit 18 AWG cable(but it's capable of up to 2.3A(constant use)!! our phones can't draw 2.3A(no phone can ..at least not one I know) so it's great)
I wanted a wire with 2.1A constant use so it would have nearly no power loss(or voltage drop), putting a thicker wire won't make any different but 18AWG compared to stock, there's different. Especially if you compare a cheap 1 euro Chinese microusb cable with this one
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Although I'm really happy with my cable and it's my first pick when in hurry and need the faster charge available, two days ago the Chinese were celebrating something so I've bought cheaply(compared to original price) a Wsken magnetic micro usb cable(original), if you don't know whats that it's a microusb cable with magnetic tip. How does it work? check the picture:
I'll measure charging rates when received but I don't expect to be as good as my cable ..but in the night when in the dark a magnetic connection seems wonderful(also great if someones trip in the cable ..it won't make ur phone fall, it will be disconnected). If you put it backwards, it still works(but only for charging) so you can safely use it on public, just connect the cable in reverse. What's bad about this? well this comes with 2 microusb adaptors and one cable, you need that specific cable so if you have lots of devices you need to carry a cable with you(and it's not cheap) - Hope it has similar thickness as our stock cable so charging won't take long, can't wait 5 hours charging(as with some very cheap microusb Chinese cables)
Very good, thank you.
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Very good, thank you.
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No need, we're a community and we help each other, in the future I may need ur help and/or knowledge
I'm a big numb-nut in terms of electrics, but when you're pushing the capabilities for charging, is there also an increased risk of damage?
experience?
evronetwork said:
On the bad side, if you need to transfer data you can't with this cable ..but I rarely use cable for data(I mostly use wifi connections to transfer data, or bluetooth) - Why? unessesary small-chargings will harm your battery, so if you connect the phone to your computer to transfer data better let it charge up rather than do your job and remove it, less than 1% charge frequent uses it will shorten ur battery life significantly
Even if I wanted to make it a full fledge cable with 18 AWG wire this is impossible, also it will become heavy for a usb cable. I barely fit 18 AWG cable(but it's capable of up to 2.3A(constant use)!! our phones can't draw 2.3A(no phone can ..at least not one I know) so it's great)
I wanted a wire with 2.1A constant use so it would have nearly no power loss(or voltage drop), putting a thicker wire won't make any different but 18AWG compared to stock, there's different. Especially if you compare a cheap 1 euro Chinese microusb cable with this one
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Although I'm really happy with my cable and it's my first pick when in hurry and need the faster charge available, two days ago the Chinese were celebrating something so I've bought cheaply(compared to original price) a Wsken magnetic micro usb cable(original), if you don't know whats that it's a microusb cable with magnetic tip. How does it work? check the picture:
I'll measure charging rates when received but I don't expect to be as good as my cable ..but in the night when in the dark a magnetic connection seems wonderful(also great if someones trip in the cable ..it won't make ur phone fall, it will be disconnected). If you put it backwards, it still works(but only for charging) so you can safely use it on public, just connect the cable in reverse. What's bad about this? well this comes with 2 microusb adaptors and one cable, you need that specific cable so if you have lots of devices you need to carry a cable with you(and it's not cheap) - Hope it has similar thickness as our stock cable so charging won't take long, can't wait 5 hours charging(as with some very cheap microusb Chinese cables)
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Did you recieve this cable? I'd like to know your experiences. I know for a fact that the Znap cables are experiencing a lot of delay but there are a lot of Ebay clones on the market now.
Was going to buy this one but I have no clue if it works though.........
How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
BarnOwl said:
Did you recieve this cable? I'd like to know your experiences. I know for a fact that the Znap cables are experiencing a lot of delay but there are a lot of Ebay clones on the market now.
Was going to buy this one but I have no clue if it works though.........
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Yes I receive the cable(if ur talking about the magnetic one) and charges up to 2.1A ..max amps for our phone
gyanbhartip said:
How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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Too many apps in the internet but I prefer the "Charger Timer", measures from 20% until 80% ..where the phone gets the "fastest" charging because when battery is low or way to high it draws less power(so battery will last longer)
gyanbhartip said:
How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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Thank you. I will give it a try for sure.
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gyanbhartip said:
How do you measure the current drawn by the phone while charging?
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I've been using Amphere for a while. It works quite well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
evronetwork said:
Yes I receive the cable(if ur talking about the magnetic one) and charges up to 2.1A ..max amps for our phone
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Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.....ordering one now.
Is this the magnetic one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00VVJE6QS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453820974&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=Wsken&dpPl=1&dpID=31gh8cR4W7L&ref=plSrch
I've been after a new charger since my original one plus charger broke, been using a nexus 5 one instead.
Been using it for a while now, I got this one
I like it a lot! It even transfers data from and to my PC! I just have to make sure the led faces the bottom to transfer.
I do not know if it works on ALL oneplus ones as there seems to be a lot of difference in these devices, so don't take my word on it!
It also charges fast, just as fast as the original cable. I just ordered another one to use in my car.
Related
hey guys, developed a new light leak area. Wanted to know what you guys thought. Should i just forget about it, or ***** and moan and try to figure out a way to fix this. My light leak isnt the usual place around the screen, its actually coming from below the bezel and above the battery cover. There is a THIN space, but the light leak is VERY visible during dark places and when the keyboard is light up. Thoughts?
to the people that had light leaks, did you get over it and forget about it or did you go through countless returns?
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I have had a light leak from that same side ever since I got the phone, it leaks much more than yours.
kinda shoddy, it's as if the frame isn't even straight
Aiasib said:
I have had a light leak from that same side ever since I got the phone, it leaks much more than yours.
kinda shoddy, it's as if the frame isn't even straight
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driving you crazy or accepting it?
damn, i feel bad that yours is alot more than mine. i thought mine was bad...
btw, does you back get somewhat warm when your charging the phone?
I'm accepting it, but only because it's one of the lesser of a number of peeves I have with the phone.
Yes indeed the phone becomes warm when charging, or whenever I use 3G/WiFi/HSPA/GPS, that is perfectly normal though.
That being said, keep your lawyer and lawsuit handy for when the the battery explodes
If you are talking about the light leak in the USB area, than that's a VERY GOOD THING. I mean, it depends on who you are. Because when the lights are out, I rely on the lighted area at the USB, so I know where to plugin the charger to the USB.
If you have had phones that didn't leak light into the USB area, you would understand how I feel about this. I owned a Nokia N95 once, and it was difficult to charge the phone because I couldn't see where the charging port was.
Hahahaha,
Nice to see conflicting opinions )
Btw poetryrocksalot, why not try turning on the light before trying to charge your phone?
stormlv said:
Hahahaha,
Nice to see conflicting opinions )
Btw poetryrocksalot, why not try turning on the light before trying to charge your phone?
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Because the light goes straight out of the screen, not enough light is refracted and reflected to the usb port.
By having light "outline" the shape of the USB port, I know which way to orient the usb charger into the cord. There is no need to hit and miss.
The best way for using the screen to see the usb port is to have light reflected from a white wall.
Anyways, this shouldn't be even funny, I am right, and you are wrong.
Try this: without opening the keyboard, turn on the screen and aim the light on a white wall in pitch black, to get as much light reflected onto the usb port. You will notice that the light can't be reflected to the usb port because the usb port is perpindicular to the the light.
Now try this: open the keyboard, this will turn on the light that is found nearest to the usb port. Now close they keyboard and you will notice an outline of light on your usb port. This time you can tell which way is the top of the usb port and which way is the bottom of the port, and there will be less of a hit and miss to connect the port and the charger.
I notice that I use to rarely use the keyboard, so I would use the screen light to get enough reflection to connect to my usb port. But I notice that I always miss by like 1/8 of an inch, or sometimes the port is upside down with the charger, so it doesn't fit at all.
But when I got used to using the keyboard at night, and when I got tired on my bed and closed the keyboard I notice that there was light leakage in the usb area. So I connected the charger (I always run out of battery, because back then I had the crappy 1500 mah battery), and I noticed that it was so much easier to connect the charger.
You guys don't feel the empathy, and lack the appreciation of this leakage probably because you guys don't use your phone at 1-3 pm, there fore you rarely come into this situation. Or is it because you guys have night lights?
Also, I think mine is worth than all of yours. Perhaps the brightness made it so convenient for me than it should usually be. Anyways, this leakage was, (prior to this topic) one of the reasons why I wished that they had a phone that had a physical/virtual button to light up all ports when there is no assistance light to plug things in.
poetryrocksalot said:
Because the light goes straight out of the screen, not enough light is refracted and reflected to the usb port.
By having light "outline" the shape of the USB port, I know which way to orient the usb charger into the cord. There is no need to hit and miss.
The best way for using the screen to see the usb port is to have light reflected from a white wall.
Anyways, this shouldn't be even funny, I am right, and you are wrong.
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HAHAHAHAHA,
YOU ARE FUNNY!
I MEAN THE LIGHT IN THE ROOM! DUH
JEEZ
stormlv said:
HAHAHAHAHA,
YOU ARE FUNNY!
I MEAN THE LIGHT IN THE ROOM! DUH
JEEZ
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Oh, I guess I am the only one too lazy to turn on the light.
so is there anyone else that has a light leak on the keyboard???
but also, is this normal? When i turn off my phone the time does not continue.
for some reason when i turned off my phone, and turned it on in the morning (10:16am), the clock read 10.25pm and it read 5/17/2009.
damn there seems to be a spot on the screen when i try to take a picture. its must be the camera lens. but the weird part is, i dont see anything on the camera lens.
IpodLover77 said:
so is there anyone else that has a light leak on the keyboard???
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i have that light leak on my xperia, since always...
Is the keyboard light.
(sorry my english)
just one more question. I was using this aftermarket charger (phihong, 100-240V~200mA 50-60Hz 13-20VA) to charge my phone and as a result, my phones back would get very warm when plugged in.
yesterday i made a change to the apple usb charger, where i plugged the apple charger in the wall and instead of the white usb cord, i used the xperia cord, and i charged it like that. when i woke up, the phone wasnt warm or whatnot and it was still charged. what do you the think the difference was?
IpodLover77 said:
hey Leica, thanks for the quick reply!
just one more question. I was using this aftermarket charger (phihong, 100-240V~200mA 50-60Hz 13-20VA) to charge my phone and as a result, my phones back would get very warm when plugged in.
yesterday i made a change to the apple usb charger, where i plugged the apple charger in the wall and instead of the white usb cord, i used the xperia cord, and i charged it like that. when i woke up, the phone wasnt warm or whatnot and it was still charged. what do you the think the difference was?
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Why would you use an aftermarket charger? Why not just use the standard SE charger?
Anyway probably the apple charger wasn't supplying as many amps as the aftermarket charger (hence it didn't get worm, but it probably charged in more time).
Also, the excessive heating of the phone might also be due improper charging voltages. What you need to look in a charger is not what input it takes (100-240V~200mA 50-60Hz 13-20VA) but the output it gives.
The normal SE charger gives 5.0V DC current @ 700mA. See what the output voltage is for your aftermarket charger (and for the iphone charge for that matter).
stormlv said:
Why would you use an aftermarket charger? Why not just use the standard SE charger?
Anyway probably the apple charger wasn't supplying as many amps as the aftermarket charger (hence it didn't get worm, but it probably charged in more time).
Also, the excessive heating of the phone might also be due improper charging voltages. What you need to look in a charger is not what input it takes (100-240V~200mA 50-60Hz 13-20VA) but the output it gives.
The normal SE charger gives 5.0V DC current @ 700mA. See what the output voltage is for your aftermarket charger (and for the iphone charge for that matter).
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thanks for the reply man!
the reason is, i kind of lost my charger hahah. so i cheaped out and bought an aftermarket one.
on the charger it says phihong, 100-240V~200mA 50-60Hz 13-20VA.
hopefully that one charge i did (it wasnt a full though, i took it off after 1 hour because it got hot) did not mess up my phone.
your thoughts?
the output is
5V=1A LPS
Finally upgraded from my G1 and i must say i love it so far.
stock froyo is soooo smooth compared to a rooted G1 even with my beloved cyanogen rom
one issue however
I really thought the N1 had the same Mini USB that many phones,generic MP3s and cameras have
Motorola & HTC, to name 2.
I know it shouldn't be a big deal but I hate having to buy new chargers every time I upgrade phones.
with the shorter battery life of smart phones I try to keep a car charger in each of my cars and my work truck just to be safe as well as an extra wall charger for traveling.
so is this port proprietary? or is the plug used on other phones and devices and called by a particular name?
Im sure some places will have generic chargers for sale that DONT list HTC and would be nice to know what else to look for if needed.
also a few times today even with just default Apps I had a problem with the screen not waking up, which after searching seems to be a problem. was there any real fix? hopefully its a software thing that wont happen once rooted
and finally does anyone know where to find the car dock other than Ebay for $150? I mean i know they discontinued the phone but since when did discontinued phones and accessories appreciate in value? lol .
I want it mostly for quick charging via the dock pins as i have a cheap generic holder, to bad there is no audio out
is the car dock even that much better than a generic dock?
Thanks for any help!
The Nexus One uses a Micro USB; this is becoming the new standard charger for cellular phones and other small devices. It is a tad smaller than Mini USB, which is what it sounds like your old phones use.
Again, in terms of size:
USB > Mini USB > Micro USB
Yea I guess I didnt notice it was a micro. the only device i have that uses a micro is my newest digi cam.
at least knowing micro is becoming the new standard i can feel better about buying a handful of new car and wall chargers lol
All you have to do buy Micro USB to Mini USB adapters. They are about $1 on ebay. Get one for all your cables snd you are set.
The problem with charging via USB is the phone only pulls half the power as it would if you used a wall charger or car charger (the car dock is pretty worth it).
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soloxp said:
All you have to do buy Micro USB to Mini USB adapters. They are about $1 on ebay. Get one for all your cables snd you are set.
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Full stop. I would not use those things except perhaps converting on a desk where the phone is sitting still and not being used. They're quite long, >1", and would very easily provide a lot of strain on the port if there was lateral movement.
Certainly would not use one charging in the car etc..
pwig said:
The problem with charging via USB is the phone only pulls half the power as it would if you used a wall charger or car charger (the car dock is pretty worth it).
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Yes, charging via USB has always been a slower charge, as USB2 provides only 500mAh of current. Some phones ignore this and will draw as much power as the charging system requires, feel free to google for people who've had devices blow their USB ports because of this.
For AC chargers, I already had 3 AC-to-USB port chargers, and all three of them charge fast, ie: data pins shorted, 1A chargers. So if you have any of these laying around they'll likely work, just look at their specs.
For the car I now I have two Motorola P513 car chargers, one for myself, one for the wife, and they work great. Only complaint I have is the plug portion is rather long. They're $10ish shipped from Amazon.
Yes I saw the adapters last night on ebay they are 99 cents with free shipping and don't have data pins so will fast charge. They are short wire adapters so they wouldn't be any more strain than a normal cord. As far as charging via actual USB I never do that unless I have to. An Xbox,ps3 or cable box is even better than a PC with a data cable.
I can't wait to root and get cyanogen on here. I Loved it on my g1
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Full stop. I would not use those things except perhaps converting on a desk where the phone is sitting still and not being used. They're quite long, >1", and would very easily provide a lot of strain on the port if there was lateral movement.
Certainly would not use one charging in the car etc..
Yes, charging via USB has always been a slower charge, as USB2 provides only 500mAh of current. Some phones ignore this and will draw as much power as the charging system requires, feel free to google for people who've had devices blow their USB ports because of this.
For AC chargers, I already had 3 AC-to-USB port chargers, and all three of them charge fast, ie: data pins shorted, 1A chargers. So if you have any of these laying around they'll likely work, just look at their specs.
For the car I now I have two Motorola P513 car chargers, one for myself, one for the wife, and they work great. Only complaint I have is the plug portion is rather long. They're $10ish shipped from Amazon.
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Ah, shorting the data pins is what tells the Nexus to draw the full current? I have 2 car power plug to USB port adapters rated at 1000mA just like the AC adapter the N1 came with. Both of them appear as USB instead of AC on the Nexus One and it will still lose battery charge while plugged in and navigating, although much more slowly.
If I were to splice into one of my USB cables and short the data pins (and disconnect them from the PC end so that the cable may not be inadvertently used) would the Nexus One read this as an AC plug and draw the full current?
Yeah I got a nasty surprise too since I have three mini USB adapters lying around the house from various HTC phones over the eyars.
I found this to be the cheapest solution:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.41527
If you want USB chraging, get a gigabyte board
http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/185/on-off-charge.htm
kk.. You all go with the $.99 chargers, have fun.
khaytsus said:
kk.. You all go with the $.99 chargers, have fun.
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I will go with it. Never had a problem with it. I have a carpc in my car and I use the USB to my car dock and my phone is a lot cooler when using GPS then using the car charger.
Had my G1 for almost 2yrs and it never seen a house or car charger.
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kk.. You all go with the $.99 chargers, have fun.
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as helpful and informative as that post was keep in mind no one is talking about 99 cent chargers
Its simply a cable adapter from Mini USB to Micro USB with no data pins. it is an official Motorola charging cable.
and its also only 99 cents with free shipping if you chose the literal slow boat from china shipping option. i checked a few auctions and the standard shipping is $15
I decided to go with a seller in NY that has them for $3.44 each with free standard shipping.
these are also Motorola.
so $10.32 shipped from the US for 3 Motorola charging adapter cables isn't bad IMO. it also keeps my junk drawer of mini usb chargers in use lol
also the fact they are cables and not hard plastic adapters should keep the strain off the port, this should be no different than any charging cable
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That's the same ones I have.
Those motorola adapters can also be bought at fry's electronics for 4.99, I just bought 2 since I didn't feel like buying new car chargers.
Spoo76 said:
as helpful and informative as that post was keep in mind no one is talking about 99 cent chargers
Its simply a cable adapter from Mini USB to Micro USB with no data pins. it is an official Motorola charging cable.
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meoshe said:
Those motorola adapters can also be bought at fry's electronics for 4.99, I just bought 2 since I didn't feel like buying new car chargers.
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Cool, good information then. I've mainly seen the one-piece longish adaptors. I'm sorted on chargers now, instead of converting the cable I just bought 3 MicroUSB's off NewEgg for $3/pc or so to go with my AC->USB chargers.. One at work, one in my computer room, stock charger in the bedroom (overnight charge).. Have a few extra cables now that I also retired my old car USB output charger for the Motorola charger.
I recently got a HP Touchpad bundle and while the Touchpad is pretty darned decent and definitely worth a hundred bucks, what really impressed me was the touchstone charging dock. Its brilliant.
I looked into it and found the the palm pre also had this and some chap on the net had figured out how to shoehorn the unit into an evo.
I did the mod to mine and its amazing. No more charging cables. Yay!
This is my take on it - tutorial with pictures: http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/evo-4g-wireless-induction-charging-modification/
This should come standard in all wireless devices!
Nice mod! Looks better and I'm sure doesn't fail as bad as the powermat charger.
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Nice mod. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi, this is a great mod!
Noob question: I noticed the charging light but the charging icon does not change on your screen. Just curious if once that the battery is completely charged, the icon will turn green. If so I wonder if the charging unit from the Pixi will stop charging the battery once it's full.
Also, compared to charging it directly from the AC Adapter, how long does it take to get a full charge? Is it the same aprox?
I'm planning on taking a look at my Inspire and see if the back cover allows me to put the charging unit there.
Thanks in advance
I did this about a week after launch. Very cool...but over time the novelty wore off.
I got sick of the bulge and ripped it out.
Nice! I wonder if I do the same with the Powermat case...
I have the Powermat, but the only caveat is that it requires a bridge connector between the case and micro-usb port.
haroldgv said:
Hi, this is a great mod!
Noob question: I noticed the charging light but the charging icon does not change on your screen. Just curious if once that the battery is completely charged, the icon will turn green. If so I wonder if the charging unit from the Pixi will stop charging the battery once it's full.
Also, compared to charging it directly from the AC Adapter, how long does it take to get a full charge? Is it the same aprox?
I'm planning on taking a look at my Inspire and see if the back cover allows me to put the charging unit there.
Thanks in advance
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Im running MikG v2.5 Rom and the charging icon flashes between the lighting bolt charging icon and % so you can see at what % the battery is at while charging. When i took the picture, it was showing %, but rest assured it flashes between the two just as if it was plugged in the usb cable.
The Induction charging puck is dumb, it only supplies power much like a usb cable. The charging circuit in the Evo decides when the battery is fully charged and stops charging. The Evo for all intensive purposes acts and behaves exactly as if the usb cable was plugged in. It cant tell if power is coming from the puck or the usb cable. I wouldnt plug in the cable while its on the puck though. Although the voltage will remain the same, about 5 volts, the amperage will increase, a doubling in amperage shouldnt break anything but i havent found out the hard way.
The puck takes the same amount of time to charge as the usb cable. I havent seen any significant difference between the two.
There really isnt much of a bulge of the back case with using 30 awg wire. Just seat it flat and make sure nothing from the cover crimps on it, and its pretty much neat and tidy.
Ive seen this mod done with flat ribbon cable which would work just as well, although in not sure how it was routed through the phone.
regards,
asmd.
uniquenameevo said:
I did this about a week after launch. Very cool...but over time the novelty wore off.
I got sick of the bulge and ripped it out.
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30 awg wire or flat ribbon cable solves the bulge problem. Ive got pucks everywhere, several at home, several at work... and its great not to have to plug it in.
It serves as my phone holder and charging unit. i've set the phone screen not to go to sleep while charging, so it makes for a nice display as well. With the screen left on, it does take longer to charge though.
regards,
asmd.
Yeah,
I did this a Loooooong Time ago using the Palm Pixi touchstone cover.
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
Here is what it looks like with a custom clear back cover.
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The Pixi cover is substantially thinner than the Pre cover and can be fit easily without bulge.
It actually held my phone up hovering in the car while driving.
jdgiotta said:
Nice! I wonder if I do the same with the Powermat case...
I have the Powermat, but the only caveat is that it requires a bridge connector between the case and micro-usb port.
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Its been done. Apparently its quite easy to replace the powermat induction unit with the pixi unit. and the cover fits perfectly.
I opted not to get the powermat case as i wasnt keen on the bridge with the usb dongle sticking out the bottom.
Ive havent heard many good things about it, pretty much nothing but complaints about the powermat induction charging unit which is why i decided on this mod and i can tell you it works, it simply works, perfectly every time.
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asmd.
What about adding a diode to prevent damage from accidentally plugging in USB while charging on the puck? I really like this mod great stuff...
Childofthehorn said:
Yeah,
I did this a Loooooong Time ago using the Palm Pixi touchstone cover.
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
Here is what it looks like with a custom clear back cover.
The Pixi cover is substantially thinner than the Pre cover and can be fit easily without bulge.
It actually held my phone up hovering in the car while driving.
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Nice work!!
I would love to know hwere you wired the pixi induction charger to?
Im really curious about what you said "Inductive charging back was wired into the test points for the USB power as opposed to attaching directly to the resistors as it is safer and easier to remove if there is an issue with the phone otherwise and needs servicing."
Well, this post finally got me moving on modding my Nexus S to charge via induction. I just got my HP Touchpad with the touchstone charging dock and it is very very cool. Can't wait to get my Nexus S that way too. And the Palm Pre/Pixi covers are pretty cheap. The Touchstone dock is only $8 too. I can have multiple units for work, home, relatives and will probably mod it to be in my Car phone holder. The possibilities are endless. Wish me luck.
Ok this power thingy(name doesnt come to mind) uses a cord to power it right so doesnt it defeat the purpose of being wirless if you know were im coming from. But hey I maybe wrong its probably battery powered? So dont sun me.
Awesome mod and comes in handy for me since my USB chord is lost most of the time lol
I have mine fitted with this case. It's a TPU plus hard plastic back. I have great phone protection and touchstone charging.... It's no more bulkier than any case out there.
asmd6230 said:
Nice work!!
I would love to know hwere you wired the pixi induction charger to?
Im really curious about what you said "Inductive charging back was wired into the test points for the USB power as opposed to attaching directly to the resistors as it is safer and easier to remove if there is an issue with the phone otherwise and needs servicing."
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Actually...
This is easy to do since the screw hole surrounding areas are grounded = ground since its pretty universal in this phone, like most mobile devices.
There are a few test points next to the Micro USB port that you can directly test by simply plugging in a USB cable and "buzzing" for the connection of the 5v line.
I get your concern, but there really need not be one and these are the best spots to attach because they are the easiest and safest to remove later. Also, there is a regulator onboard with a shutoff/on ciruit within the inductive charging circuit. It will not turn on or allow voltage to pass under 4.5V (shuts off) from the outputs. Connecting the inductive charger to the 5V input line of the USB directly means that it treats it like USB charging. The onboard current and voltage regulators and charging circuitry of the Evo make it pretty darn hard to ruin it. At any rate, the inductive charger won't ever get up to 1Amp anyway because of power loss due to physics. It is pretty much 500ma in most circumstances from the Pixi receiving end.
The test points are far enough for skilled hands to hit with s solder braid or suck up after a rework airing anyway.
For those who skipped the technical mumbo jumbo, they basically made it impossible for you to screw up (unless you decided to connect your inductive charger at 5V to your Li-Ion battery at 3.7V - DO NO DO THAT!). The picture shows the wire going at the edges of the battery because that is the best place with room, they both route to the same hole at the back of the battery. Use 28AWG or 30AWG teflon-coated stranded wire for slimmest results. Great quality wire will mean that you don't have power loss (the traces are thinner than the wire is anyway so its not an issue).
If you have some detailed questions, post them up or send me a message. I will try to be prompt!
I remember last year when this mod first showed up, the addition of the Palm induction coil screwed up the evo's internal compass which then caused problems with navigation. Is this still an issue?
DroidFreek said:
Ok this power thingy(name doesnt come to mind) uses a cord to power it right so doesnt it defeat the purpose of being wirless if you know were im coming from. But hey I maybe wrong its probably battery powered? So dont sun me.
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Ha. You are totally right, simply switching one wire for another. Then, if you need to usb mount or sync or whatever, you still need a regular micro usb cable to do so...
1 cable for plug/charge/sync
or
1 Charging stone for power
1 Regular cable for das syncing/usb mount/charge.
Hmmmm
jjvw said:
I remember last year when this mod first showed up, the addition of the Palm induction coil screwed up the evo's internal compass which then caused problems with navigation. Is this still an issue?
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the induction coil and the metal discs in the phone are not magnetic. When off the charging puck, everything works like it should. Truth be said ive never used the compass app. (im not sure if i even have one), i exclusively use gps which works just fine.
Bought one of these guys to hardwire a charger in my car:
http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/mfx5v-b-micro.htm
On the charger is specifies 5V 1500mA output. Is that ok? I know it's more than stock, but I thought circuitry can step it down if needed.
Also, I'm thinking I want to hardwire to the always hot lead that goes to the radio memory function. Any chance of current problems? Don't think it will drain my battery if I leave it charging while shopping (or at the bar)
Thanks.
I'm curious why you chose to hardwire it, when the device can only pull 700mA, and these little wonders work perfectly.
Nice! Got one of these also... twice the ports and 5X the price:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q/ref=pd_cp_e_2
Yours and mine above specify 1A... this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Samsu...96/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1318442293&sr=8-15
2.1 A.
I just wanted a cleaner look in a little sports car... the hardwire is going to come out the panel and go straight to a dock. But now I'm worried that 1500 mA could be troublesome?
It won't be troublesome, just useless.
I have a setup for my iPod that utilizes one of what I linked. I've got a USB+RCA-to-dock cable running into my center console, then into a port in there, to some empty space in front of it (under the trim, totally invisible) where my audio guys spliced a new line into the RCA jacks that came from the factory, and split off another power line. The charger's in there, cable connects to the ports... It's nice and clean.
this should be fine. the amperage rating on a charger just tells what it is capable of if requested. it is up to the phone itself to provide the requested amount of current. that is to say if this charger can provide 1500mA, but our phones can only use 750mA, your good. it is provided all the current it needs. now on the other hand, if you were charging some device that could use 2000mA(unheard of) this charger would provide all it could, the device would just charge slower.
the voltage is fine. most chargers are rated at 5v, and should be spot on as long as it is a decent brand from a trusted source. a knock off may be out of spec to what it is rated. that is where you could run in to trouble with frying a phone.
anyway, besides all that, this seems risky. not hardwiring a charger to your car, but leaving it there while you are shopping or in the bar. ever heard that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? id hate to come out of a bar to a broken window and no phone...
i never leave my phone unattended outside of my home.
austin420 said:
some device that could use 2000mA(unheard of)
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iPad, TouchPad, Galaxy Tab 10.1...
Guess I'm a noob.. very detailed answer in FAQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802711&highlight=voltage+amps+charger
Now to find out if those pins are shorted...
Wall Charger/ Power Adpater For Acer Iconia Tab A500 With 2M Cable
100% Brand New.
This the OEM Wall charger for Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc for house using.
Input: 100~240V -0.65A 50/60Hz Max
Output: 12V 1.5A
Cable length: 2M (6.5feet) Special Design
Compatible with: Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc
US plug version. It needs a plug converter for EU/AU/UK using.
Package Includes:
1 x wall charger for Acer A500
$12.99
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Thanks. I just ordered one. Shipping is free! But super slow... I'll drop a note when mine gets here and let you know how it fits.
I want one with a long cord. A lot longer.
Make one with a 10' cord and I'll buy.
mwm215 said:
Make one with a 10' cord and I'll buy.
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This. I love my 15 foot HDMI cable, because I can now keep the tab closer to the wall charger and run the cable all the way to the TV.
mknewman said:
I want one with a long cord. A lot longer.
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Want a longer cable? Get a 22awg cable and either solder or crimp positive negative and ground. I wouldn't go more than 20 feet max personally. And if you solder it make sure the three cables don't touch or it goes boooooooooom!
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Chargers do not work!!!
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Wall Charger/ Power Adpater For Acer Iconia Tab A500 With 2M Cable
100% Brand New.
This the OEM Wall charger for Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc for house using.
Input: 100~240V -0.65A 50/60Hz Max
Output: 12V 1.5A
Cable length: 2M (6.5feet) Special Design
Compatible with: Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc
US plug version. It needs a plug converter for EU/AU/UK using.
Package Includes:
1 x wall charger for Acer A500
$12.99
http://witglobal.com/goods-3873.html
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So far this charger is NOT looking good.
I bought two 110 AC wall chargers and one 12v car charger and received them last night.
Plugged tablet in last night with 42% charge left in it, woke up this morning and tablet was dead.
Fully charged tablet with Acer stock OEM charger.
Used tablet until it was at 78%. Have been trying to charge all morning with one of the chargers with no luck. Now trying the other one to see it just the one is defective...
..but SO FAR, at least one of 'em is looking like a POS...
EDIT: so...BOTH of them fail to charge the unit. Plugged into wall - both of them will make the tablet think it's charging (icon changes to lightning bolt / charging icon) but there is NO POWER being added to battery. Battery will slowly discharge even when plugged into wall with these chargers.
STAY AWAY FROM THESE. I will now attempt to get my money back. I will keep you posted on my success or failure...P>S> Still have yet to test the 12v car adapter but confidence id NOT high...
Achristocat said:
So far this charger is NOT looking good.
I bought two 110 AC wall chargers and one 12v car charger and received them last night.
Plugged tablet in last night with 42% charge left in it, woke up this morning and tablet was dead.
Fully charged tablet with Acer stock OEM charger.
Used tablet until it was at 78%. Have been trying to charge all morning with one of the chargers with no luck. Now trying the other one to see it just the one is defective...
..but SO FAR, at least one of 'em is looking like a POS...
EDIT: so...BOTH of them fail to charge the unit. Plugged into wall - both of them will make the tablet think it's charging (icon changes to lightning bolt / charging icon) but there is NO POWER being added to battery. Battery will slowly discharge even when plugged into wall with these chargers.
STAY AWAY FROM THESE. I will now attempt to get my money back. I will keep you posted on my success or failure...P>S> Still have yet to test the 12v car adapter but confidence id NOT high...
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Do you have a volt meter? I'm curious (and willing to bet) that it's not really providing 1.5A. The fact that it's terminating to a USB cable and the site claims that you can use "other power supplier and Car chargers with USB power delivery" (their spelling) raises a red flag. USB power is usually only 0.5A, and even on the high-end they only push 1A or 1.2A.... not enough for our tablet. My advice is to stick with the OEM chargers (Wal-Mart still has them for $14.95).
I got ripped off with a similar eBay purchase for a USB car charger that specifically said 1.5A.... only to find that my phone was loosing power when plugged in. After checking it out the thing was only pushing 200mA!
This is definately not oem, id just pony out the extra 3? dollars and buy the real one from walmart, youll probably spend the same on shipping this one
Modified the OEM charger with a cable from one of these POS!
Tried to contact the distributor to get my money back and SURPRISE...couldn't get a hold of 'em.
The good news is that I ripped out a cord from one of 'em and replaced the cord in my OEM charger and it's working SuperGood. Direct replacement!
...which is good, because the cord in my OEM charger was starting to fray right above the strain relief...They used Very Poor wire in these guys..
Anyway, glad these chargers are good for Something...
Cord length in these?
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Cord Length of the POS..
The cord length is 6'6" long. A nice size...If only they worked...
Like I said in my other post, it made a great replacement cord AFTER I cracked one of these open and stole the cord for my tired OEM charger...
If you are thinking about buying - DON'T!
...unless you just can't find a replacement cable w/plug anywhere else and you are desperate...
They Do Not Work!!!
I can confirm that this does not work. But I am thinking about doing the same cord swap that you mentioned so it isn't a total loss for me either. Was worth a try for sure.
I too can confirm that this charger will not work. I got the exact same model off e-bay and it did supply the correct voltage, but I did not think to check the amperage at the time.
What was interesting is that the tablet reported as charging (the battery icon showed the lightning bolt), but it was actually depleting. This makes me think that it's totally a problem of not enough current.
The package I got included this charger with a car charger, which worked fine after some adjustment. So it wasn't a total loss.
Changin out the cord...
For those of you thinking about changing out the cord from the POS charger to the OEM charger, I have a few words of advice -
1) The case is glued together. There are no screws. Not under the stickers or under the plug plate. I took a very sharp, sturdy Strong knife and slid it into the seam and stuck it hard ALONG THE SEAM, not into the charger. The charger is PACKED with goodies and can be demolished easily.
2) Get a reading on polarity (center pin is What Color Wire?) BEFORE you unsolder either one. I did, but screwed up, forgot which was which but got lucky when I did my first re-solder of the wires. I did have a 50/50 chance..
3) After soldering the wires into place, hold the unit together and plug it in to your tablet to make sure it works BEFORE gluing the case back together. You know...to be sure and save your self some trouble...
4) I ended up hot gluing the case back together in case I need to take it apart again to replace the cord again. It's still sturdy as hell, but can be pryed apart Much more easily (while still being strong!) without destroying it.
5) This is a GREAT mod so far - The plug actually has a slightly longer center pin on it and stays in the socket on the tablet much easier than the stock right angle pin.
Destroy the POSand make it good for something... Good Luck!!!
I have a power cord for the gtab. Some voltage but the amp is 2. Will that still work ok our could that send too much power hurting the battery?
nvm plug too fat
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In fairness to the seller of this wall charger for the A500, I must tell you that I've received my unit today and plugged it in..........works flawlessly.
Perhaps they have changed their suppliers since last month?
Mag
Bump.
Anyone have any further experience with this charger? Is it worth buying?
OT but worth $40. http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A500-Doc...OUCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335890930&sr=8-1
Charges, headphones or speakers, two stand positions, charges with the special dock.1/2 price and overpriced but great for watching movies with your headphones on. Now they need to put the newer 5foot cord in the package. Two models on Acer's site so maybe the newer one does?
post man said:
Wall Charger/ Power Adpater For Acer Iconia Tab A500 With 2M Cable
100% Brand New.
This the OEM Wall charger for Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc for house using.
Input: 100~240V -0.65A 50/60Hz Max
Output: 12V 1.5A
Cable length: 2M (6.5feet) Special Design
Compatible with: Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet pc
US plug version. It needs a plug converter for EU/AU/UK using.
Package Includes:
1 x wall charger for Acer A500
$12.99
http://witglobal.com/goods-3873.html
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I brought one of Ebay (had pretty much exactly the same wording) and when it came it's only 4FT!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKl7V4XWEMo
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