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Help me choose a head unit for mercedes w203

I'm trying to decide which head unit to purchase, but as there are so many different models/manufacturers its hard to decide!
Could someone please confirm/refute the following....
the two most supported models are the nu3001 and RK3188, with the RK3188 being the most powerful.
1.6 cortex Quad core, and 1/2GB ram are the features to look out for.
Ideally I'd like a unit that is designed for the car and doesn't need a bezel to fit.
I have come across this RK3188
It seems to fit the requirements.. Quad core, RAM, custom fit. £288 inc Delivery to UK.
the other option is this nu3001 but doesn't seem to be available for my car, except for a universal version. Its a fair bit cheaper at £221.02 to UK
Is there anything I've missed, or better models I should look for?

RK3188 is not a type of head unit, it's a CPU. nu3001 is a head unit that has either a RK3188 or RK3066. I would get a double din to w203 bezel adapter, then a nu3001 and wiring harness adapter.

Hello I have the same dilemma. I have narrowed it down to the following few options.-S1 60 android OS my concerns with this option are whether or not it has the option to change the control button colors. The other option I am considering is the pure android 4.4.4 OS it does have the ability to change the button colors however the overall design feel of the OSC use more clunky Then the S1 60. My other concern with both units is will it be able to be upgraded to android 5.0.

Head unit for Renault Logan

Hi, there, I am new to Android Auto, just thinking about buying some new head unit with Android to my car. I found a lot of head units on ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc, but I cannot decide for one. My car has 2 DIN original multimedia system with BT, but I would like also to have some built in navigation, etc. There is a lot of universal head units with Android 4.4, 5.1, with 7" capacitive display, quad core CPU, 2 GB RAM... I am not sure how reliable it would be. I would love to have also some future software upgrade support to Android 6.0, 7.0, etc... Any ideas? Which brand is good, which is not?

www#aliexpress#com/store/product/6-2-inch-Android-Car-DVD-GPS-for-Renault-Logan-Sandero-Duster-Autoradio-GPS-with-Radio/814373_32753991706.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.JwLSna
above may be your choice.

What's wrong with Xtrons?

Hi all, first time member here - sorry for any dumb questions.
I'm looking at getting my first android head unit. I don't have much criteria, but here is the list;
- 7" double DIN
- snappy boot time (2 - 3 seconds before playing music)
- nice looking - physically (don't like the joying logo or inset/bezel), and software (prefer the look of the latest android)
- video in for pi or dash cam
- bluetooth for calling and maps data (waze, etc). Or should i be looking at wifi tether?
At first, my research lead me to the following Xtrons units (basically searching whats popular on ebay);
- TB706PL (Octa-core RK3368 PX5, Android 6.0)
- TA701PL (Quad-core RK3188 PX3, Android 7.1)
- TL702P (Quad-core Intel Atom x86, Android 6.0)
Questions:
1. I've read a lot of posts on this site steering people to Joying HUs. Whats wrong with the Xtrons HUs?
2. Is the PX5 a big deal? Is octa core overkill for HUs? (I'm currently leaning to the PX3 over the PX5 due to later Android.)
3. Are all these units rootable?
4. Is there a likelihood of being able to upgrade the Android version of all of the head units in the future?
Thanks everyone!

Joying is the brand with the greatest hacker support.
You don't need to buy the UM135 with deep plastic bezel. You can also buy UM128, which is all glass.
Yes, it has a joying logo on the front too.
PX5 may have an 8 core SoC, but they are 8 SUPER WEAK SLOW TURDS. They are badly implemented A53's. So don't for ONE SECOND thing that you're getting something on the same level as a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835. You're looking at several orders of magnitude between the 8 turds and the 8 custom A73's in the QC.
Of all the CPUs available for car radios, the INTEL quad-core is the strongest. Ignore benchmarks, its a totally different architecture that you CANNOT compare with synthetic benchmarks.
As far as upgrade android version, Joying with Intel CPU is probably the most likely one for being able to upgrade to AOSP8.

i've never had an Xtrons. I have had Joying, Dasaita, and Seicane.
All have their pros and cons. The Joying definitely ran the best, and had the most updates, but it ran too hot and fried itself. Joying did replace it, which was cool.
However, i wanted something Jeep specific with a big screen, which Joying doesn't make, so I moved on to Dasaita with Android 6.0 and PX5:
https://youtu.be/ITCawVbBL7g
And i got the Seicane with Android 7.1.2 and PX3:
https://youtu.be/MWVsNWZjeCQ
The Dasaita is noticeably quicker than the Seicane but the Dasaita had 2 bugs I couldn't get past. The Dasaita would not recognize the MicroSD card from sleep. It would be fine from a full reboot, but from sleep it didn't recognize it, and the app switcher button would randomly disappear.
Seicane does not have those issues.
I think Xtrons and Dasaita are very similar, but not positive

Pf84mtv has any one got the original software?
Xtrons gave me a wrong firmware for my system and now my system lost the function of all its buttons and now they emailed me saying sorry they dont have the firmware? Can any one help

Newbie needs advice :)

Hi all,
I'm totally new here and have no experience with android HU's at all!
I recently bought a Skoda Octavia (2012) with a RNS315 in it. It seems the navigation updates are quiet expensive and the navigation itself is not that good I think. So I started looking for an other device.
I would love to keep basic functions as: PDC, airco, maxidot, steer wheel controls,...
My eyes felt on the Joying android HU's, especially the ones with the look as the VM130N2. This device still have some buttons on it, which is handy in the car I think.
This model exist in the Intel Atom X3 version and the Rockchip PX5. Is the last one the better choice? (newest version I guess)
Or are there other brands that are better for (almost) the same price?
I've read the Joying HU can use some extra cooling, but installing a fan isn't that big problem I think.
Does these units display the name of the radio station on the screen? Or only the frequency?
Thanks in advance!

By trading your RNS for Joying you'll surely get better navigation, but you are going to miss:
- sound quality
- radio reception quality
- Maxidot integration (no navi guidance at all)
- overall quality/integrity
But again the whole Android world will be at your disposal. I traded my RNS510 for Joying and did not have a temptation to get it back despite all Joying's flaws.

Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?

Vennet84 said:
Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?
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If you buy a Sony you definitely have better sound quality.
If you buy a Joying, buy the one without the internal amplifier, for example the VM130N2 you mention and NOT the VM130N2D. You better use an external amp to improve the sound.
I have a Joying VM130N2 and would buy either a Joying or Dasaita back.
Atom X3 (Sofia 3GR) is slightly faster than PX5, but the PX5 is 8-core. In the case of multi-threading apps (actually only Google apps), more cores might be useful on a "loaded" system. Even though the PX5 is an underperforming CPU and not better than an Atom X3, it still is the future for the coming 1-2 years as every supplier is abandoning the PX3 and Sofia 3GR, and switching to PX5.
If you want to run custom ROMs, you better choose a Joying or Witson Sofia 3GR (gtx made a very good custom rom) or a PX5 mtcd to be able to use the Malaysk custom ROM. The Joying PX5s are non-mtcd units and therefore incompatible with the Malaysk ROM.
And w.r.t. Android 8: Choose very carefully. Some units are really running 6 or 7 and only have the look & feel of Android 8.

What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?

Vennet84;76001632 vHi all said:
My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units. I've been through 5 of them in the last 10 years. First was a single din media player. It died after 3 years. Second was an ebay purchase of a Windows CE with IGO in 2011ish. Seller said it had GPS--it didn't. Then the screen died sitting on the shelf when I tried firing it up a few years later. Next I bought a Windows CE with GPS unit lasted 3 years till till DVD player died in 2015. Then the res of the unit/screen died on the shelf after trying it a few years later. Then in 2015, I got an android allwinner A13 single core 4.04/8gb storage/1gb ram. The unit died after 2 years. Plus it was so slow and under-powered, that it was a waste of time to use. Then I bought a Joying intel sofia unit in 2017 January. It was pretty good unit until it stopped working. The screen started flaking out intermittently on and off after 9 months. Joying admitted they had a fault but that they fixed it the manufacturing process but the solder joints needed repair from too many heating/cooling cycles.
I'm done with this generic Chinese junk. These units simply are not weather resistant for long term exposure to the elements in the car, and they lack decent cooling. All of this is aside from various complaints of buggy software implementations.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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Vennet84 said:
What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?
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Look at the AMP chip. In the Joyings it is a TDA7388. Some other brand units come with a TDA7850 chip and sometimes with a Pioneer PA2030A.
Those are much better.
The Dasaita HA2137-V840 does have the TDA7850 and a better radio chip than the joyings (that is also why I mentioned that I might buy a Dasaita back. All chinese units are definitely not top-quality, but the Dasaita is slighly better).
I have really no idea whether it is an MTCD unit. Please ask Dasaita directly via mail, either via AlieExpress of via their own site www.hot-audio.com
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zipeee2 said:
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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Yeah, well. My brother bought a pioneer Android unit (can't remember which one). He had to wait 1½ year before they fixed the bluetooth issues.
So much for Pioneer. It is a mixed bag everywhere until you buy a unit of at least 750 euros/dollars.

zipeee2 said:
Vennet84;76001632 vHi all said:
My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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I second that. Chinese Android head units may be a suitable upgrade for older cars but are no match for recent OEM units. And most recent OEMs include Android Auto/CarPlay support which renders manufacturer navi useless.
In your particular case, the RNS315 doesn't seem to have that but there seems to be a direct replacement, the RCD 330 Plus, that keeps all previous functionality and adds AA/CP connectivity.
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Android headunit suggestions?

Looking for suggestions for single din android 7 or nwer headunits with 2GB ram minimum as I'm looking to upgrade from my ATOTO A6 and do to my setup can not go back to double din (require external eq or something mounted under the radio haven't desided) My only real requirements are 2gb ram minimum, android 7 or newer, single din and volume knob not buttons... The ATOTO A6 has lots of problems like Bluetooth doesn't work, it's slow as hell with 1GB ram and i hate the touchscreen buttons for adjusting the volume (like the back and resent buttons on the S7) I'm thinking of also upgrading to an official android auto headunit but only if it doesn't come with alot of the same problems as Bluetooth/USB single din radios from kenwood, pioneer and such.... suggestions? I have no idea what's out there but I'm ready for an upgrade...
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Here are some head unit online stores,you may find unit meet your need
Joying autopumkin Arkright Eonon
Video
It's 7 inch but not single din

I understand you are looking for 1 DIN unit to accommodate an external EQ but can I ask why you need the EQ? Many of the new HU come with a built in DSP that give you more options and also have faster CPUs, larger ROM and more RAM. I just ordered one that's fitted to my car with an 8 channel DSP PX5 4GB/32GB but if you can use a universal 2 DIN I believe Joying has a PX6 4GB/64GB and the Intel Sofia units are very fast too.

I'm looking for a headunit that supported by the community and getting a bit confused.
I'd prefer 2 din with hard buttons on the left (yes, I know there are a lot to chose from!)
Would something like this be a decent unit and have any custom roms?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32879727238.html
Edit1: I'm thinking about the 32gb version without the 4g modem (I tether with my phone). Is this somehow a dumb decision?
Edit2: ok, it looks like this linked unit doesnt have custom rom support yet? is the px6 the way to go? which is the best px6?

PX6 is still very new and not widely available so there's not many owners and much development on it. It would seem to be the platform of the future but who knows. Right now your best support is with PX5 and Intel Sofia. You should definitely look for something with a DSP most of the new units have one. I don't now of anything with PX5 and DSP that has physical buttons but there's at least one Intel that does you can read about it here.

nic2k said:
I understand you are looking for 1 DIN unit to accommodate an external EQ but can I ask why you need the EQ? Many of the new HU come with a built in DSP that give you more options and also have faster CPUs, larger ROM and more RAM. I just ordered one that's fitted to my car with an 8 channel DSP PX5 4GB/32GB but if you can use a universal 2 DIN I believe Joying has a PX6 4GB/64GB and the Intel Sofia units are very fast too.
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I require 1 din and 2 or 4 gb ram with Android 7 or newer with knob for volume not buttons... I've got an Atoto A6 and it's junk and too slow nothing works so I'm upgrading to something better... I may not put an eq under it i might just put my cb radio or something like that but not desided yet... since I've got limited space in my car I require 1din even though i could put 2 din in... I'm also using external amp for everything so all the fancy stuff in the headunit won't be used most all adjusting will be done to the amp and not headunit
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If you want to add a CB that really limits your options. This unit might be your best choice unless you can find one with a pop out panel. The line out or SPDIF output will let you enjoy the DSP goodness.

nic2k said:
If you want to add a CB that really limits your options. This unit might be your best choice unless you can find one with a pop out panel. The line out or SPDIF output will let you enjoy the DSP goodness.
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Looks good... it doesn't block anything below the radio screen? Also Does that one have rca outputs as well?
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Yes scroll down to near the bottom of the page they show you the backside and all the connections.

I ordered the Xtrons D781A from Amazon i heard good reviews of Xtrons brand radios and i like the looks of the flip out unit... I use an external amp already so i don't care of the internal amp... I'm just hoping it will be faster and less laggy then the Atoto A6 standard with 1gb ram... I'm moving the Atoto to mum's car since she only needs it for backup camera mostly
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