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I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (its dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
Dude forget the Z1 not only the body is huge for a 5'' screen but it's not even a 5'' screen because contrary to G2 the virtual buttons on screen are not transparent so it's like a 4.6'' usable
electronical said:
Hi
I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (it's dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
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Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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I'm running cm now. Alpha build. Dev support has been great.
chrisexv6 said:
Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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+1000000 to this. I always chuckle when I see people who are smart enough to check out XDA forums to learn more about the hacking community of their phone of choice but yet don't seem to click on the Android Development carrier sub forums to gauge how Android development is happening. Its like these people expect a CM ROM to show up 2 days after the phone is released or else the hacking developer community is a failure. Threads like this that complain about the lack of Android development should be removed immediately.
chrisexv6 said:
Have you checked the Android Development and carrier specific development forums for the G2 on XDA?
The phone has now been out for a whopping THREE WEEKS. Root, LOKI and TWRP were achieved within FIVE DAYS of release.
Sorry if I sound like Im venting but there are way too many threads questioning the phone because we dont have CM, 4.3, or KitKat yet.
And a lot of people (even me) who have come from a pure AOSP experience (like I have on my Gnex) are pretty darn satisfied with the phone as it is out of the box. Ive installed CleanROM mostly just for the debloating aspect, the UI remains virtually the same as stock.
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i am also thinking of picking up this phone
what i realised with LG phones is that they don't get much dev attention, like the G and G pro,
so i am not sure what will happen with this device
spazzy1912 said:
i am also thinking of picking up this phone
what i realised with LG phones is that they don't get much dev attention, like the G and G pro,
so i am not sure what will happen with this device
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Just ignore the working CM10.1 build located in the Android Development subforum for the LG G2, right?
Seriously guys, look around the forums and tell me if you really believe it isnt getting much dev attention.
electronical said:
Hi
I already own an HTC One but i'd like to get a Snapdragon 800 device and apparently the LG G2 is the best on the market right now. However, it seems like there is limited dev support for the G2, which is a critical issue for me. I plan to root and test new ROMs on the G2 (why else opt for such a powerful device if you don't plan to customize it to pieces) and i would also appreciate CM support and vanilla Android-based ROMs to get rid of the bloatware UI. But why is there a seemingly poor dev interest in this device? Is it due to the device being relatively new? Or is it due to LG's limited opensource support relative to Sony, HTC, etc? I just don't want to look back at this thread a few weeks from now and then regret my decision to buy the G2. Or is the Note 3 a better choice (its dev section is bristling with new ROMs, etc)? But i'd like an easily pocketable phone rather than a phablet or tablet. I also considered the Z1 as my new S800 device but its huge bezels are a turn-off for me. Maybe i should wait? I don't plan on waiting until 2014 though. :cyclops:
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We don't need anymore users that will complain of the supposed lack of dev support (which btw is not true at all)...so please do us all a favor and get a note 3, and enjoying blowing an Efuse and kissing your warranty good bye the minute you install a custom recovery.. :highfive:
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We don't need anymore users that will complain of the supposed lack of dev support (which btw is not true at all)...so please do us all a favor and get a note 3, and enjoying blowing an Efuse and kissing your warranty good bye the minute you install a custom recovery.. :highfive:
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It's an entitled world these days, my friend.
to OP: Development will pick up. As others have mentioned the phone has been out for only a hot minute. The world wasn't built on impatience and here we are getting impatient over a phone.
There are already a few Roms out. Even if there were 100s of Roms. The miniscule differences are laughable but people rage about a new rom. Just relax and wait. You also have the n5 coming out which should ramp up development.
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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@op look at the AT&T Note 3 vs the AT&T G2 for example and tell me which one has the most support as of now. The G2 hasnt been out for thaf long and already has all the root, twrp, lokid plus 3 or 4 Roms if im not mistaken. This is great and itll get better with time. Gotta be patient. The G2 out of the box is beast and offers a lot of customization.
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Are LG usually good about releasing Sources? I've pre-ordered the G2, but I'm still on the fence about actually wanting the new Nexus.
If devs can put out a decent AOSP/AOKP/etc ROM for this device, I'd rather go with the G2 with it's superior battery.
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Are LG usually good about releasing Sources? I've pre-ordered the G2, but I'm still on the fence about actually wanting the new Nexus.
If devs can put out a decent AOSP/AOKP/etc ROM for this device, I'd rather go with the G2 with it's superior battery.
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sources are out pretty usuable ones some people say
can anyone who has owned a previous lg device tell me about OTA updates?
from what i heard, LG is very late and has a bad rep for ota updates? not too sure though
Dev support really won't be an issue from what I've seen.
chronicfathead said:
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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Also if the rumors are true and the Nexus 5 is based on the G2 then the dev support will most likely explode even more. Porting KitKat and such to the G2 would be a breeze.
chronicfathead said:
I was torn between the G2 and a Nexus 5. I am so happy with my stock experience G2, I'm not bothered about the 5 any more. The G2 is a fantastic phone.
Dev activity seems to have doubled in the last week, with more people saying that they are waiting for their phones to arrive.
LG have already posted the source for the current roms. I think they may have learned from the Nexus 4 that a decent dev scene equals a very popular phone.
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Amen G2 brother. Long live no bezel
darabo said:
Also if the rumors are true and the Nexus 5 is based on the G2 then the dev support will most likely explode even more. Porting KitKat and such to the G2 would be a breeze.
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Would porting to a Verizon G2 be more difficult since it's on CDMA?
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I am getting ready to upgrade and the LG G2 on Verizon looks very nice. I'm not seeing many ROMS now and realize that it is pretty new and that ROMS don't just appear by magic.
Do people think that more ROMS will be forthcoming? I do enjoy various ROMS for the customizing etc. Are we waiting on some milestone to occur before development really starts?
If not the LG G2, what other phone on Verizon should I look at?
Thanks and please move if this isn't in the right forum.
farbster said:
I am getting ready to upgrade and the LG G2 on Verizon looks very nice. I'm not seeing many ROMS now and realize that it is pretty new and that ROMS don't just appear by magic.
Do people think that more ROMS will be forthcoming? I do enjoy various ROMS for the customizing etc. Are we waiting on some milestone to occur before development really starts?
If not the LG G2, what other phone on Verizon should I look at?
Thanks and please move if this isn't in the right forum.
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The LG G2 has a lot of buzz in the "nerd" community. development will pick up. lg has never had the amount of owners as samsung but i have a good feeling about the G2. its REALLY good and Half the price of the note 3 :good:
verizon options are becoming limited as verizon gets manufacturers to encrypt bootloaders.
the s4 was looking like it was going to be the phone to get but its locked down tight.
hashcode0f has got safestrap working but no kernel access. it allows for roms and mods but its limited.
i say buy the G2 it works really well with cleanrom and a few mods.
farbster said:
I am getting ready to upgrade and the LG G2 on Verizon looks very nice. I'm not seeing many ROMS now and realize that it is pretty new and that ROMS don't just appear by magic.
Do people think that more ROMS will be forthcoming? I do enjoy various ROMS for the customizing etc. Are we waiting on some milestone to occur before development really starts?
If not the LG G2, what other phone on Verizon should I look at?
Thanks and please move if this isn't in the right forum.
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This phone hasn't even been out a month yet and there is already root and recovery. It won't be long till there is AOSP and CM 10.1 & 10.2
afmracer6 said:
The LG G2 has a lot of buzz in the "nerd" community. development will pick up. lg has never had the amount of owners as samsung but i have a good feeling about the G2. its REALLY good and Half the price of the note 3 :good:
verizon options are becoming limited as verizon gets manufacturers to encrypt bootloaders.
the s4 was looking like it was going to be the phone to get but its locked down tight.
hashcode0f has got safestrap working but no kernel access. it allows for roms and mods but its limited.
i say buy the G2 it works really well with cleanrom and a few mods.
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Do you have the link to the cleanrom?
piam said:
Do you have the link to the cleanrom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2538
So I swear this is true. If I'm lying, give me an iPhone
I go to the Verizon store and this was my conversation with the guy. I looked at the G2 and on the way out, wanted to see about a protective case.
ME: Do you have any cases for the G2.
VERIZON MORON: I don't know that that is.
ME: It's a phone by LG. You know, the LG G2. It's over there.
i think like anything else it is just a person by person experience. I bought one outright and the verizon rep couldn't say enough good about it. even as i even thought my mind was made up which he did not know. i asked questions about the htc one and samsung galaxy s4. he was waiting for the note 3 to come out as they get a discount and he really needed a big screen he still said the g2 was the best they had so there are negative experiences but for me verizon has endorsed it and when i went for the wireless charger continued to tell me how good of a phone it was
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I'm running a cm alpha rt now on vzw g2. Supports been great by community so far.
I've been watching this space for last few days, especially to know how much active development this device would get. There is no doubt that this is one of the best device you can buy right now in the Android market. But it still has less active development than a high end device would see after a month of its release. And being a cousin to Nexus 5, I thought this device will see the added advantage of much more development but what ever is happening is absolutely opposite to it. The development activity is so less, compared to what previous flagships HTC One, S4 had after one month of their respective release, there isn't a need to create separate forums for each major (carrier) version of the device.
Is it because locked bootloaders? or something else?.
blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
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Yes, I agree that LG G2 is not as quite as popular as it should beconfused but an average user doesn't hang out in XDA looking for different roms. Even Sony's one or two years old phones are getting KitKat where as this phone has not even having more ROMS to choose from. This is supposed to be the flagship & highest speced device along with Galaxy Note 3. And as I said, being a distant cousin device of Nexus 5, I thought many ROMs from different beloved developers will be available for this device but it is not the case. Many people like me choose Android platform over other(Windows Phone 8 & IOS) because of the availability of different ROMs to choose from. But seeing that is not the case, even those people back off from buying this device.
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I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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Its not only AOSP ROMs but also stock based ROMs too
Patience guys, the ROM's are coming.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
kimtyson said:
If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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With due respect, before giving those heroic comments & suggestions, you should have understand what I'm trying to do with this thread, which is to get to know the reasons for not seeing as much development as we usually see with flagship phones(I don't know where you get the notion that I was complaining). I never tried or try to complain or demand anything, heck who the hell I'm to even think of those lines. I clearly was asking for the reasons in the OP(than complaining about any thing) that is it because of locked bootloaders or some other reasons. And every flagship has different variants, its not this phone alone.
But one thing I'm sure about is, any one who visits or comes frequently to this wonderful forum, he/she buys the device which is supported by our beloved developers, they don't care about the manufacturers supporting them in software update.
The "why no development for this device" threads are getting tiresome no matter how an OP tries to disguise it.
If you want a device with a lot a ROM's, I suggest you get a Nexus or a Galaxy S phone and not an LG, Plain and simple.
A lot of xda users know that LG suck at providing updates to the latest version of Android. Samsung and HTC used to be the same way but they have really improved. Besides when it comes to GSM devs, I think most preferred going with the cheaper option the Nexus 5 offers. Also, quite a few people don't really like the rear button placement. Most of us have gotten used to it but try convincing someone who has yet to try the device.
LG is in Samsung's shadow
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antinorm said:
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I was lucky enough to get a nexus 5 very early after the launch...i played around with it the day i got then packed it up and sent it back the next day..bought a G2 the next day and am glad i did
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low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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muhamet said:
low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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Def low development for D803.
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Theres a bounty in general to get all variants official AOKP. You want more development then donate.
force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2
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force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
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Low development? There's no development.
Is pretty simple... Most devs knows that LG is not dev friendly and most devs has gone through this with LG before.
This particular lg is very dev friendly
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Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
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At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
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Thanks for the good device and I think sticking with this is my decision after thinking about this phone does have problems but also has pros to I'm just worried that since the bump site has gone cm12 and other lollipop ROMs (which I am loving BTW) will stop being updated and remain as a buggy mess as they are( not terrible but not great) I guess I'll just wait and see what happens thanks for an amazing reply bug help dude
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I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
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Same with me I don't care about having loads of ROMs I would just love one aosp lollipop ROM that has everything and even quick circle support if that happened this device will be incredible, and I haven't heard of this open bump? Is there a thread for this I'd like to see this for myself thanks for the reply
Just to clarify for everyone the BUMP site has being shut down but bump is NOT gone at all we have an offline python script that can do it.
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ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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Bump is not dead by any means and the end-users will likely not notice any degradation in ROM development. The Open Bump option is still available and many devs will use this. Team Codefire may also privately Bump builds for certain devs. It boils down to the fact that several developers threw hissy fits over Open Bump. I understand the reason they are mad about another dev making their exploit public, but the amount of drama surrounding this is abit ridiculous and there are arguments for both sides. This is a topic for another day, just know that Bump is not dead and development for the G3 will continue, don't worry. Bump has already been implemented into the nightly builds of CM12 so it's not going anywhere. Just never take an OTA update now if you want to keep TWRP.
Thread needs to be closed bump still works just different way of doing it is all roms will still be here
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So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
soldier16 said:
So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
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Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
ymcc said:
Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
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I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
soldier16 said:
I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
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Yes.
but you must never update to lollipop to get xposed to work
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
MalekoUK said:
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
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People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
DelBoy said:
People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
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That isn't what happened, they made bump some guy got a stolen lg key to sign the boot.IMG files and also use there way yo bump and made it open source for everyone to use, the guy put credits to them but they had a tantrum cuz someone might have worked out how to do it and made it open source so anyone could use it without have to sign up for some ****ty website
Yez cuz iz biggerz.
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I'm not a developer, but from a price standpoint, there is no doubt ... The G3 with 32GB / 3GB ram cost me 1/2 the price of the Nexus 6. I believe for the money, the G3 is a fantastic device. Now, I know most people in the US will buy it on contract and won't have to put up 700 dollars (or 700 euros in my case) for a phone. But I believe techwise the N6 is a great phone, but I don't think it's worth the 700 euros (circa 1000 USD) while I got the G3 for almost half the price, and I had gone with the 16gb / 2gb ram version it would have been less than half.
If money isn't an issue, go for the N6. It will see development for years to come. But I really like the camera on the G3 and the size. 6 inches is really big for a phone in my usage.
Who told you the lie that Bump is gone? I'm still bumping my kernel here with a .py script =)
I been having galaxy phone since the s2..... I even remember with the s3,s4 there were pages of development but starting with the 5 is all been going downhill ??? We have a couple devs that work their ass off to bring us top roms and kernels glad to have them aboard or it would be completely dead..... but it doesn't seem like it was as popular as before..... Are people going away from android, Or just no that interested into flashing roms no more..... I really miss the old days that you will sign into your device thread "TMOBILE" for me and would have to decide which rom and kernel to go with for the week lol......
gdmlaz said:
I been having galaxy phone since the s2..... I even remember with the s3,s4 there were pages of development but starting with the 5 is all been going downhill ??? We have a couple devs that work their ass off to bring us top roms and kernels glad to have them aboard or it would be completely dead..... but it doesn't seem like it was as popular as before..... Are people going away from android, Or just no that interested into flashing roms no more..... I really miss the old days that you will sign into your device thread "TMOBILE" for me and would have to decide which rom and kernel to go with for the week lol......
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get a nexus 6 its crazy there, i was flashing mad and sometimes 3/4 roms a day so no not dead just yet
just a bit slow here for now
Since note 3 this road has been slowly dieing
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hussam1988 said:
Since note 3 this road has been slowly dieing
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That's exactly what I feel I mean go into any galaxy s3, s4 thread and look how many roms are out there u get bored of thinking which to pick from....... Don't know if many devs have grown out of it and are doing other things with their lives now or there is not a demand like before but I got my galaxy 5 and it was dead only like 2 or 3 roms for the full year i owned the phone....... now with the galaxy 6 is looking even worse
gdmlaz said:
That's exactly what I feel I mean go into any galaxy s3, s4 thread and look how many roms are out there u get bored of thinking which to pick from....... Don't know if many devs have grown out of it and are doing other things with their lives now or there is not a demand like before but I got my galaxy 5 and it was dead only like 2 or 3 roms for the full year i owned the phone....... now with the galaxy 6 is looking even worse
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Knox counter happened
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Knox counter happened
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Do people really care about knox so much ?? I mean you could still turn in a device that has knox tripped for jump...... and warranty do they even care if you turn in a device that has knox tripped like phone insurance ? I never seemed what the big deal is
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Do people really care about knox so much ?? I mean you could still turn in a device that has knox tripped for jump...... and warranty do they even care if you turn in a device that has knox tripped like phone insurance ? I never seemed what the big deal is
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Never delivered a device into a dealer to test if warranty existed after a knox counter breached
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i've turned several rooted phones into t mobile for problems when they were rooted, and they couldnt care less about root or knox..
Where you MIGHT have an issue is if you send a phone into Samsung itself..
And, as far as dev for this phone, I think it will pick up some as more time passes; its really only been 30 days since the official release, but yeah, the note 4 had a few roms within the first few weeks it was released.
Frankly, I think that there are so many annoying N00bs buying Samsung phones, that alot of the top Dev's have stopped buying them and if they do, they just make roms for themselves and their close "friends"..
XDA has become a haven for the leeches, the "I expect answers and help immediately" crowd, and most of the top Dev's got sick of that nonsense and either went private or went to Nexus phones..
I think I might go nexus when its time to "jump" soon...
wase4711 said:
i've turned several rooted phones into t mobile for problems when they were rooted, and they couldnt care less about root or knox..
Where you MIGHT have an issue is if you send a phone into Samsung itself..
And, as far as dev for this phone, I think it will pick up some as more time passes; its really only been 30 days since the official release, but yeah, the note 4 had a few roms within the first few weeks it was released.
Frankly, I think that there are so many annoying N00bs buying Samsung phones, that alot of the top Dev's have stopped buying them and if they do, they just make roms for themselves and their close "friends"..
XDA has become a haven for the leeches, the "I expect answers and help immediately" crowd, and most of the top Dev's got sick of that nonsense and either went private or went to Nexus phones..
I think I might go nexus when its time to "jump" soon...
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That's it in a nutshell I think - I've been using custom roms and kernels since the original Galaxy S1 came out, and people on here and other forums have got progressively ruder and more demanding with each passing year, to the point where many devs have given up.
The sense of entitlement to features and support for what is usually a hobby for devs is sickening sometimes.
Also, to be fair, I think devices are getting that powerful and good than custom roms aren't needed to the same extent. Even root isn't as essential as it once was.
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The sense of entitlement to features and support for what is usually a hobby for devs is sickening sometimes.
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Boy, that statement should be in the OP of EVERY ROM on XDA..
nofam said:
That's it in a nutshell I think - I've been using custom roms and kernels since the original Galaxy S1 came out, and people on here and other forums have got progressively ruder and more demanding with each passing year, to the point where many devs have given up.
The sense of entitlement to features and support for what is usually a hobby for devs is sickening sometimes.
Also, to be fair, I think devices are getting that powerful and good than custom roms aren't needed to the same extent. Even root isn't as essential as it once was.
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Your last point is what I think the real reason is. Android has gotten good enough that only the power users are going to root and constantly room a device. The average to techy user just doesn't see enough reasons to root a device. If you ask me, it is a pretty good problem to have.
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The only phones I've rooted and flashed were my Milestone and Captivate. Android hardware and software weren't exactly optimized at the time and performance wasn't great.
I've had my S3 for a good 3 years now and I never even rooted it. The performance was good enough that I never bothered. It only got slow with the most recent update but by now, the phone is 3 years old so I upgraded the hardware.
The other thing I didn't like about flashing is that once I did it, I often would have to flash again every other week because there was another update with fixes. It was hard to find something that I could flash and leave for 6 months or longer.
I will wish to jump to nexus if I can. My place or country rarely sell nexus. I didn't even see a real device my self. Only Samsung appear the most. My previous device was note 3, I do see the development slowing down. I hope the edge will have more developer since is a bit pricy and therfore, less newbie compare to s6
glad to see people are agreeing with me....... hopefully we could get a couple top devs back interested in developing some time soon
Another important factor is that Samsung is very closed source regarding their hardware, which makes it almost impossible for AOSP builds to run stably, especially on newer version of Android. Other vendors have made much more effort to support the developer community, so that's where the developers tend to head.
I dont know if I agree with that; my note 4 had/has several very nice and stable AOSP /cm12 based roms running 5.02 on it, but they were Snapdragon based, which may or may not be the difference when it comes to doing things with the Exnos processor..
I think you guys are forgetting that there are way more flagships from other manufacturers these days that are splitting the devs. Samsung used to be the king of the hill till HTC, Sony, LG and Motorola stepped up!
The Nexus is filled with lots of redundant roms which barely differentiate one from another.
When I owned the N5, I just left it at stock cause it was the most stable!
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Samsung used to be the king of the hill till HTC, Sony, LG and Motorola stepped up!
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Samsung was never king of the hill. HTC has made killer flagships since before Android. They also made the first Android phone. HTC has had the majority of devs since Windows Mobile. HTC was the main reason for xda to even exist. You want more devs, buy a HTC phone.
I think the real reason that Samsung doesn't get more devs here is because of the following:
1 Touchwiz
2 Touchwiz
3 KNOX
4 Switch to Samsung SoC
5 Devs know which devices are truly better, and the majority don't go Samsung.
It's a shame that Samsung is going down a path that is not dev friendly, after all competition is a good thing. They do have some nice hardware. If it weren't for Touchwiz(bloated bunch of crap) lagging the UI and KNOX, they would get a lot of attention here. But then again, all they really care about is totally volume of devices sold(like crapple), not if they are well received here. KNOX gets them enterprise sales, bye bye sd card!
BMW used to be a great company when they made only a few hundred thousand cars each year. Now they are like everyone else, they pump out high numbers of crap. Samsung is going down the same path.
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Samsung was never king of the hill. HTC has made killer flagships since before Android. They also made the first Android phone. HTC has had the majority of devs since Windows Mobile. HTC was the main reason for xda to even exist. You want more devs, buy a HTC phone.
I think the real reason that Samsung doesn't get more devs here is because of the following:
1 Touchwiz
2 Touchwiz
3 KNOX
4 Switch to Samsung SoC
5 Devs know which devices are truly better, and the majority don't go Samsung.
It's a shame that Samsung is going down a path that is not dev friendly, after all competition is a good thing. They do have some nice hardware. If it weren't for Touchwiz(bloated bunch of crap) lagging the UI and KNOX, they would get a lot of attention here. But then again, all they really care about is totally volume of devices sold(like crapple), not if they are well received here. KNOX gets them enterprise sales.
BMW used to be a great company when they made only a few hundred thousand cars each year. Now they are like everyone else, they pump out high numbers of crap. Samsung is going down the same path.
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Windows Mobile is not what is in question here! HTC was pretty much the only manufacturer that mattered in those days for that platform.
Ever since the first Galaxy S, Samsung has been king of the hill.
HTC is ridiculous with the S-Off nonsense in the same way that Samsung is with KNOX. But at least the bootloader is still unlocked for most of the Samsung variants!
Sony contributes to AOSP and encourages development it seems. Motorola is back in the game for now at least with the Moto X line. LG has been doing great since the Optimus G. OPO stole away a bunch of developers as well.
Lot more options now in comparison...not to mention the other great Chinese phones like Huwei, Xiaomi, ZTE, Oppo, Lenovo and the Taiwan based Asus!
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Another important factor is that Samsung is very closed source regarding their hardware, which makes it almost impossible for AOSP builds to run stably, especially on newer version of Android. Other vendors have made much more effort to support the developer community, so that's where the developers tend to head.
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^^^ This, and this vvv
wase4711 said:
I dont know if I agree with that; my note 4 had/has several very nice and stable AOSP /cm12 based roms running 5.02 on it, but they were Snapdragon based, which may or may not be the difference when it comes to doing things with the Exnos processor..
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Samsung device + Exynos SoC = closed source, thus no fully functional AOSP or CM-based ROMs.