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[Q] KitKat vs Jelly Bean

Okay guys, this is not first thread about this subject but give your thoughts please.
I have:
Note 3 (SM-N9005) running some JB 4.3, unrooted
Note Pro 12.2 LTE (SM-N905) running KK 4.2
So far I haven't got any problems with Note 3, so kinda no reason to update it to 4.4, but does that update do more good or harm to me, since no way to dowgrade back.
About ext. sdcard writing problem, I haven't noticed anything that differs between my JB Note 3 and KK NP 12.2
Main reason why I would want KK on my Note 3 is Samsung SideSync feature (works only on KitKat devices) that I could use my Note 3 through my NP 12.2..
But is that really that good reason to update fully working phone (if there comes some problems with KitKat)??
Please help me with this, thanks

Spere said:
Okay guys, this is not first thread about this subject but give your thoughts please.
I have:
Note 3 (SM-N9005) running some JB 4.3, unrooted
Note Pro 12.2 LTE (SM-N905) running KK 4.2
So far I haven't got any problems with Note 3, so kinda no reason to update it to 4.4, but does that update do more good or harm to me, since no way to dowgrade back.
About ext. sdcard writing problem, I haven't noticed anything that differs between my JB Note 3 and KK NP 12.2
Main reason why I would want KK on my Note 3 is Samsung SideSync feature (works only on KitKat devices) that I could use my Note 3 through my NP 12.2..
But is that really that good reason to update fully working phone (if there comes some problems with KitKat)??
Please help me with this, thanks
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For me personally, I don't see more harms compare to the good parts.
I understand so many ppl do complain about KK firmwares. And to be frank, those problems stated, I have never experienced on my N9005 device (**touch wood**)
My ext. sd card writing also has no problem eversince I upgraded from JB to KK for the first time.
S-view cover, some also stated they experience problems, but my S-view is working just fine. And I have a fake S-view (made in China)
But all is your decision to make. My only advise is... if you really want to upgrade, after the upgrade is done, no matter you still can go through the homescreen, try to do factory reset from stock recovery. This step is very simple, but do help a lot to avoid future unnecessary problems (example : battery drains, FC, freeze, sudden reboot, phone very slow, etc).
So, my suggestions is, do backup of your important data (before upgrade) to your external SD, or to your laptop/PC.

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Spere said:
Okay guys, this is not first thread about this subject but give your thoughts please.
I have:
Note 3 (SM-N9005) running some JB 4.3, unrooted
Note Pro 12.2 LTE (SM-N905) running KK 4.2
So far I haven't got any problems with Note 3, so kinda no reason to update it to 4.4, but does that update do more good or harm to me, since no way to dowgrade back.
About ext. sdcard writing problem, I haven't noticed anything that differs between my JB Note 3 and KK NP 12.2
Main reason why I would want KK on my Note 3 is Samsung SideSync feature (works only on KitKat devices) that I could use my Note 3 through my NP 12.2..
But is that really that good reason to update fully working phone (if there comes some problems with KitKat)??
Please help me with this, thanks
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yeah there few changes in KK update of N3
few GUI improvement
reason u may like to update is RAM management that is in native KitKat codes that of course others implements it.
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Thanks, both of you..
I think I'm gonna update when I got some time to make all backups of my phone.
But let's see if this get some more replys and maby some pros/cons about KitKat
I have original S-View (which I do not use, since it makes phone too bulky for me), so I'm not worried about KitKat affects to those covers.
On my NP 12.2 running KK I haven't seen any issues with external sdcard so that should be fine.
(Possible??) battery drain issues don't scare me, and of course if I update, I'm going to make factory reset from recovery to make "clean" install
Last time I updated my phone, a day after I found URDLV, way to root without tripping KNOX. But obviously it was too late since that update patched bootloader, LOL.
I bet this wont most probably happen when going from JB to KK, that someone finds a way to root JB without tripping KNOX, but not for KK.
KitKat makes device faster/smoother (I've read somewhere, don't know is it really noticable on daily use?)
So what else you people have noticed running KK versus JB, any other cons and how about pros?

Spere said:
Thanks, both of you..
I think I'm gonna update when I got some time to make all backups of my phone.
But let's see if this get some more replys and maby some pros/cons about KitKat
I have original S-View (which I do not use, since it makes phone too bulky for me), so I'm not worried about KitKat affects to those covers.
On my NP 12.2 running KK I haven't seen any issues with external sdcard so that should be fine.
(Possible??) battery drain issues don't scare me, and of course if I update, I'm going to make factory reset from recovery to make "clean" install
Last time I updated my phone, a day after I found URDLV, way to root without tripping KNOX. But obviously it was too late since that update patched bootloader, LOL.
I bet this wont most probably happen when going from JB to KK, that someone finds a way to root JB without tripping KNOX, but not for KK.
KitKat makes device faster/smoother (I've read somewhere, don't know is it really noticable on daily use?)
So what else you people have noticed running KK versus JB, any other cons and how about pros?
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it is noticeable
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.

Yep... So I pulled the trigger and updated my phone.
First impressions:
-It's a lot faster
-After update my USB 3.0 connection works no more to my PC (My NP 12.2 USB 3 connection also don't work, now I found what's the reason.. KitKat)
-My favourite internet browser force closes when trying to open it (I loved it since it was like ICS stock browser, got those must have fast button when you slide from edge of screen, it was fast and always on fullscreen exept when you opened adress line from fast button Does any of you know any similar browser working on (non rooted) KitKat?)
It takes 100++ years to get phone back to "usable" state (All settings, homescreens, app drawer, apps and they're settings, WIFI settings, paired BT devices...etc..etc....)
Let's see what else time shows me

[Help] JasmineRom 5.0.2 soft bricked Verizon Note 3

Thanks in advance for the help, hopefully we can figure this out.
Currently my Verizon Note 3 is stuck in a boot loop and I can't get out of it. I have tried all the methods that I have found on here including wiping data/ factory reset and trying to go back to a stock firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483380). Anyways, I got myself into this problem, I wasn't thinking straight... Basically I flashed my N3 from 4.3 using safestrap to JasmineRom 5.0. After that I updated to JasmineRom 5.0.2 doing a dirty flash over the 5.0 with FlashFire (http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433). I was surprised how easy it was actually, I have been on a rooted stock firmware since day 1. After everything was running fine, I had the brilliant idea of using FlashFire to install the Lollipop Xposed Framework (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811). This is where the boot loop happened and is happening. Everything I try doesn't seem to work... I was looking into trying to convert a zip to a tar so I can use Odin to re-flash on JasmineRom, but I have had no luck, I get a "Unsupport Dev_Type" error in my Recovery. I am not sure what to do or try, any help would be appreciated.
note: I read the known issue with Lollipop's Xposed Framework install and thought that I was on a custom Samsung Rom and shouldn't have problem?
Also, I can't role back to a previous firmware through Odin because I am upgraded to 5.0 and can't re-install JasmineRom because I am stuck in the boot loop (at least I think so).

I hope someone can help. I stupidly did the samething last night to mine. after it was running so well. I jsut wanted to theme out the damn ugly green in notifications

Well looks like I have phone running again but I had to run stock so no more root for me. Very upset. I want to buy either another used note 3 that still can run this rom or maybe find a note4 reasonably priced. NOT a POS clone.
but runing odin with the 5.0 android file it restored but would not allow 4.4.2 or
4.4.4

MAD450r said:
Well looks like I have phone running again but I had to run stock so no more root for me. Very upset. I want to buy either another used note 3 that still can run this rom or maybe find a note4 reasonably priced. NOT a POS clone.
but runing odin with the 5.0 android file it restored but would not allow 4.4.2 or
4.4.4
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I did the same and updated to 5.0 with Verizon through Odin. It fixed it but just lost my root privilege as well... Atm I am glad to have a working phone. I found an error that told me my current software level when I was stuck (5.0.2) and the reason for the error (attempting to downgrad). Looks like Samsung is blocking downgrades.. That is why it wouldn't restore any lower .. Just gotta hope that a 5.0 root comes out.

You should use the dedication Verizon Note forum .

Glad you have your working again as well. I believe verizon is doing this not samsung. VZW does not want us in control of what we put on our phones or more yet what we can do with them without paying extra fees.

Ordered the Verizon S5 and it's coming with 4.4.2. What should I do and not do?

I ordered the AT&T unlocked S5 Active off Swappa from a seller that resells phones from corporate usage. It came with 4.4.2 and some modifications that lead me to believe the company does did not permit upgrades. That said, it was hell to get MTP working on it and it did not read any microSD cards (yes I troubleshot plenty). They offered to replace it and so I have a Verizon S5 (not Active) on the way instead, as I'm hoping for more official upgrade support (Marshmallow this month??).
Aaanyway, regarding root, updates, tips/tricks, etc, any suggestions?
I'm coming from the AT&T Moto X 2013 but have a good deal of experience with roots, mods, etc.

rino757 said:
I ordered the AT&T unlocked S5 Active off Swappa from a seller that resells phones from corporate usage. It came with 4.4.2 and some modifications that lead me to believe the company does did not permit upgrades. That said, it was hell to get MTP working on it and it did not read any microSD cards (yes I troubleshot plenty). They offered to replace it and so I have a Verizon S5 (not Active) on the way instead, as I'm hoping for more official upgrade support (Marshmallow this month??).
Aaanyway, regarding root, updates, tips/tricks, etc, any suggestions?
I'm coming from the AT&T Moto X 2013 but have a good deal of experience with roots, mods, etc.
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Honestly, it's a very easy procedure I was hunting and hunting when I got mine (about a month ago) so I've done plenty of research.
Mine had 4.4.2 on it as well. There is a downgrade process which is fairly simple and straightforward. It requires using Odin. I also followed a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tut-root-tripping-knox-t2803951 which helped me a lot. I also read that towelroot isn't working, so I found one set of tools which has towelroot plus v2 and v3. v3 worked for me the second time. Try googling some stuff, there is tons of information, I'm looking for a good ROM or at least a pre-rooted updated stock ROM. I have version 0A8, which is the first OTA lollipop update. I'm looking for a ROM based off of lollipop there are tons based on kitkat kernel thou. CM is working on I think 12.1 So I may downgrade again because the downside to having Verizon lollipop installed, TWRP will no longer work. Stay with kitkat, install TWRP, and go from there, think I'm going back to kitkat to find a decent ROM, I like having recovery. Hope I helped a bit

silverdragon76 said:
Honestly, it's a very easy procedure I was hunting and hunting when I got mine (about a month ago) so I've done plenty of research.
Mine had 4.4.2 on it as well. There is a downgrade process which is fairly simple and straightforward. It requires using Odin. I also followed a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tut-root-tripping-knox-t2803951 which helped me a lot. I also read that towelroot isn't working, so I found one set of tools which has towelroot plus v2 and v3. v3 worked for me the second time. Try googling some stuff, there is tons of information, I'm looking for a good ROM or at least a pre-rooted updated stock ROM. I have version 0A8, which is the first OTA lollipop update. I'm looking for a ROM based off of lollipop there are tons based on kitkat kernel thou. CM is working on I think 12.1 So I may downgrade again because the downside to having Verizon lollipop installed, TWRP will no longer work. Stay with kitkat, install TWRP, and go from there, think I'm going back to kitkat to find a decent ROM, I like having recovery. Hope I helped a bit
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Helped a ton I was thinking of sticking with the Active so I wouldn't need a case, but with all the development here, I'm glad I switched. And the Verizon model seems to be doing better than the AT&T one in terms of OTAs.

I was on a 4.4.4 for a long time as OTAs lock bootloaders.
I am happily rooted on 5.0 running a TW stock rooted ROM.
Beware of OTAs..... they can kill you. LP is Def better!
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Note 4 5.1.1 CF auto Root

Hi All,
I currently have a Note 4 910G that is still 5.1.1 with no OTA updates available.
I have been having dramas with my phone rebooting sometimes every 2 minutes, laggy and generally unresponsive.
I have backed up the phone the best I can as its stock and not rooted. However I was going to factory reset to see if it fixed the issues I am having. I have decided that root and flash may be a better option though as back up is horrible on android and also some added features would be handy (titanium back up and tasker).
My question is I am not 100% across what exact files to use as everything I find is for a different version. I found the CF auto root application, however, I am nervous that the kernel that is listed on their website is based on 6.0.1. I am finding it hard to find the 5.1.1 N910G Kernel to use instead
Will this cause an issue or does someone have the 5.1.1 kernel I can grab prior to flashing.
I hope this makes sense and any help would be much appreciated. Sorry if this has been covered, I have been searching around for a while and couldn't find this specific enquiry.

Update Rooted Kit Kat ANI2

Ok, I bought a new Verizon S5 in July of 2015. I rooted it a couple days later using Towelroot. The CID is 11, so it has a locked bootloader. I never had a single issue with the phone, and honestly, never thought about doing any updates, as it just kept chugging along dependable every day. I recently retired the S5, as I bought a mint, used Note 4 and fell in love with it. I am getting ready to sell the S5, but want to fully update it to 6.0.1 Marshmallow DQH2. I am not worried about losing root, as I am selling the phone, and will probably remove root anyway. I have a few questions though:
1) Can I update from Kit Kat all the way to Marshmallow and the latest update, or do I have to do it in increments?
2) Is it easier to update, then remove root?
3) What would be the easiest way to update to DQH2?
4) Since its rooted, can I just download the stock DQH2 firmware and flash it in Odin and go from KK to MM?
4A) If it can be flashed as stated above, will I lose root?
4A-1) Is there a rooted DQH2 firmware that can be flashed?
Thanks in Advance!!!

0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.

bbsc said:
0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.
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Thanks. Whats the highest I can update, and retain root? I am re-thinking things now, as the package disabler app I was using and very fond of.... has been updated, and evidently does not work like it used to. I used this app on my Note 4, and was so happy with being able to disable all the bloatware and OTA etc... that I didnt bother to root the Note 4. I thought that if I lost root upgrading the S5, I would just install the same package disabler app, so it wouldnt be a problem, as thats really the only reason I root.... to get rid of bloatware. I may want to keep root now though

widowmaker17 said:
Whats the highest I can update, and retain root?
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BPB1, Android 5.0.
You may also like the idea to install a custom debloated 6.0.1 ROM without root. If you've decided not to sell the S5.

Just another viewpoint if you haven't updated the phone yet: there are buyers who look primarily for phones with earlier versions of android, and it could actually increase the value/selling chance of your phone if you keep it on an earlier version and advertise it as such.
This gives the purchaser the opportunity to install the version they might want, especially since it's relatively difficult to find a Verizon S5 (or any Verizon Samsung phone) with 1. an unlocked bootloader and 2. an earlier version of Android such as KitKat installed.
I know this doesn't necessarily answer your questions, but it might be of benefit.