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[Closed] Should I upgrade to 4.4.2 from 4.3?

I've been on 4.3 for a while now, hesitating to upgrade to KK because I've read some complaints about SD card issue and battery life.
Just want to ask, are they resolved or have workarounds developed already? Or should I still hold off upgrading?
Edit: Found a list of potential issues w upgrading. Can anyone (esp. SG users) confirm?
1. SD card problems
2. Force close for action menu, handwriting and Samsung keyboard
3. Unable to switch GMS/UMTS in the Preferred network mode menu

fterh said:
I've been on 4.3 for a while now, hesitating to upgrade to KK because I've read some complaints about SD card issue and battery life.
Just want to ask, are they resolved or have workarounds developed already? Or should I still hold off upgrading?
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that problem is sovled. u should try 4.4.2 and feel it. more comfotable than 4.3
Sorry for bad eng

4.4.2 is noticeably snappier overall for me.

For all who have updated to KK, can you confirm the known issues in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658315) I'm planning on following the tutorial in that thread, or does anyone know of a better way?

fterh said:
I've been on 4.3 for a while now, hesitating to upgrade to KK because I've read some complaints about SD card issue and battery life.
Just want to ask, are they resolved or have workarounds developed already? Or should I still hold off upgrading?
Edit: Found a list of potential issues w upgrading. Can anyone (esp. SG users) confirm?
1. SD card problems
2. Force close for action menu, handwriting and Samsung keyboard
3. Unable to switch GMS/UMTS in the Preferred network mode menu
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fterh said:
For all who have updated to KK, can you confirm the known issues in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658315) I'm planning on following the tutorial in that thread, or does anyone know of a better way?
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I'm in Singapore, but my handset is export set (France firmware).
I was on MJ7 for 1 month+ (non-rooted), and just upgraded into KK 4.4.2 DBT NB7 Germany. And I rooted with CF-Autoroot with Philz CWM installed now.
So to be frank the link you have provided earlier, I have no idea, because I have never got a chance to root before upgrading to MJ7 4.3.
by the time I upgrade to MJ7, then I know I can't root without tripping its KNOX warranty bit.
So I have to bear with non-rooted until I set up my mind to upgrade to KK and finally I rooted my device on KK, and of course KNOX is tripped, but I don't care with it, as long as no other effects, other than warranty...
After using KK - DBT NB7 for 3 days, I can tell you, my SD card has no problem (only when I want to download and save to SD card from Dolphin browser, it doesn't recognize my SDcard because it is read as "external SD" instead of "storage\external SD"). Other than this, my SD card is just fine.
For problems no. 2 also never exists.
my network is running very well in 4G, H+, H, G. No problem at all.
But the happiest thing is... battery much much much better.
It is more reasonable to be used on KK, compare on earlier version of android for the battery.
And in sleep mode, for 4 hours, it dropped only 2%, things which I never found on my earlier device running on earlier android.
Cheer!

antique_sonic said:
I'm in Singapore, but my handset is export set (France firmware).
I was on MJ7 for 1 month+ (non-rooted), and just upgraded into KK 4.4.2 DBT NB7 Germany. And I rooted with CF-Autoroot with Philz CWM installed now.
So to be frank the link you have provided earlier, I have no idea, because I have never got a chance to root before upgrading to MJ7 4.3.
by the time I upgrade to MJ7, then I know I can't root without tripping its KNOX warranty bit.
So I have to bear with non-rooted until I set up my mind to upgrade to KK and finally I rooted my device on KK, and of course KNOX is tripped, but I don't care with it, as long as no other effects, other than warranty...
After using KK - DBT NB7 for 3 days, I can tell you, my SD card has no problem (only when I want to download and save to SD card from Dolphin browser, it doesn't recognize my SDcard because it is read as "external SD" instead of "storage\external SD"). Other than this, my SD card is just fine.
For problems no. 2 also never exists.
my network is running very well in 4G, H+, H, G. No problem at all.
But the happiest thing is... battery much much much better.
It is more reasonable to be used on KK, compare on earlier version of android for the battery.
And in sleep mode, for 4 hours, it dropped only 2%, things which I never found on my earlier device running on earlier android.
Cheer!
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If I try to update to KK while keeping root and face problems, I can always just flash "normally" through desktop Odin (no more root) and root using CF autoroot, and everything will be fine, just that root is tripped right?

Downgrading my samsung galaxy s4(I9500) to 4.2.2

Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?

I know how to downgrade i9505 but i9500 Im not sure about it I never tested it out
I think you can downgrade successfully, I have a thread about how to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 but its for i9505 check my profile threads
You can downgrade successfully if you follow my guide, but you will lose wifi of maybe imei
So you can solve 4.3 wifi problem by downloading 4.3 kernel
You can use the same way to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2
And for how to backup your imei you will need a rooted device !!
There some apps that backsup imei
Just look for your phone model "gt-i9500"
And you can backup you system starting from imei by having custom recovery like CWM and do Nandroid
And Knox will be tripped

Downgrade or Install Custom ROM
tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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Hey dude,
I don't really understand how the s4 lags - did u try resetting the device?
the battery life is fine with the latest update.
Overheating is still there in i9500 & also it cools down rapidly - I guess its a HW design. Hope it wont be fixed.
I was annoyed with the overheating issue & now i am used to it. It heats while using 2G or 3G Internet & playing games.
Using regular apps it doesn't heats up & now i am okay with it.
Regarding the downgrade, frimware from sammobile will work fine. You will have to install via odin.
no your phone wont get bricked cos of knox - I suggest you to follow a video tutorial and do the downgrade.
But I recommend you to try a custom rom such as Omega, Hassan etc
In my experience the these roms are very good on battery and performance. Pls do note these roms (Omega, Hassan) are based on samsung stock rom.
If you still want to downgrade, I would suggest you to take it to the service center guys & they will do it for free.
Hope this helps!! :good:

Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro

tdssmarty16 said:
Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro
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I think will be not easy. You voided ur warranty when u downgraded (KNOX:0x1). No service centers will fix it (in theory) :highfive:

No Performance Lag & Good Battery Life
tdssmarty16 said:
Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro
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Hey bro,
In my experience with the S4 on Stock ROM I never experienced a lag.
Please check on the settings - switch off the gimmicky features such as Air View, Air Gesture, S Beam, Air Gesture, Motion, Palm Motion etc etc.
Settings --> Connections Tab --> NFC, S Beam, Nearby devices, Screen Mirroring
Settings --> My Device -->(scroll down) motions & gestures, smart screen, air view
Turn locations off
Check the battery graph - see which app consumes more
I had this issues when these features were on.
The phone will be always hot, battery was draining like 1 % for 1 to 2 mins.
There is no lag with camera and gallery.
Battery drag is bit similar that I lose 1% for every 3 to 4 mins on 2/3G Internet. But on Wifi battery is solid.
In my opinion battery is very solid in S4.
The latest firmware is very stable. The performance has increased from old firmwares.
If you hv rooted the device, and got custom recovery just try a custom rom.

Okay i think it would be good to try the custom rom
So i am gonna try that and see what happens

Joku1981 said:
I think will be not easy. You voided ur warranty when u downgraded (KNOX:0x1). No service centers will fix it (in theory) :highfive:
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Bro my warranty is still intact
I did not downgrade it yet because i dont know the correct method to do it

tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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i have make downgrade to my phone i9500 form 4.4.2 to 4.2.2
with this firmware XFE-I9500XXUBMH1-20130927115211.zip
you can download form here >>> http://d-h.st/4bG
and wifi is ok and device is working so fine
but after i flash it's show the device is custom but i root it before
can u try it if you like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755184

Thanx for the information buddy
I will try to flash this firmware with odin

As I know...
tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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As I know, if you download an official firmware of samsung from sammobile, you can downgrade/upgrade your firmware without rooting, just flash via odin. Maybe you can uninstall KNOX first before downgrading, open KNOX mode and press menu and click uninstall KNOX. I hope this helps. Good Luck

Which Android version is better for our i9506 : Jelly Bean 4.3 or KitKat 4.4.2 ??

Which Android version is better for our i9506 : Jelly Bean 4.3 or KitKat 4.4.2
RubenMMS2

Kitkat

KitKat is better, even 4.2.2 was better than 4.3 slowmo..

The SD card restrictions in KitKat create too many limitations for my liking. Even with root and SDFix, some apps still can't access the external SD card. On top of this, there doesn't appear to be any significant improvement in performance or battery life.
Maybe when someone does a good sammy custom rom based on 4.4.2NNE (would I love an Omega rom right now!) it will be a worthwhile update. In the meantime, if you have 4.3, stick to it. As I discovered to my annoyance, there's no going backwards.

Any team will cook for i9506??It's a shame

In my opinion they are almost the same Sh*******t with few changes.

I'm just using the i9506 since 4.4.2.
I'm rooted, debloated and adfree.
For me the system is fast, stable and handy.
I like it and don't miss something.
PS: SDFIX: If you fixed the ext sd write permission than any app should work...
Are you sure you've done it correctly and being rooted?

mar10o said:
KitKat is better, even 4.2.2 was better than 4.3 slowmo..
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I am quite pleased with 4.4.2, my only problem is that at the moment you cannot root without activating KNOX.
For this reason I wanted to downgrade to 4.3 where you can root w/o voiding the warranty.
Anyhow, your post surprised me, because you say that even 4.2.2 was better than 4.3
Do you mind to tell me (us) why you think so?
What is wrong with 4.3?
Should I really stay far from this 4.3?
Many thanks in advance.
J

I moved since a couple of months to v4.2.2.
So far so good.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1

[Q] Lollipop Cam ported to KitKat?

Hi,
recently i got the Note 4 after my previous Note 3 was stolen. After I got it and did an immediate OTA Update to Lollipop. But since a lot of things with Lollipop on this device seem not yet right, i went back to KitKat and installed my previously for all my devices used OMEGA Rom for 4.4.4.
One thing though i noticed in my brief time with Lollipop, which seems much better than with KitKat. That's the Cam App. Especially if held against other lightning it showed much better results.
So now my question, is that just me thinking like that, and has someone ported the Lollipop Cam to KitKat so I can use that with OMEGA Rom? Any help would be appreciated. Thx so much.
Wolfseye

Quick Q: Should I update my phone to Lollipop?

Hello,
like the topic name says, should I update my phone to Lollipop?
I've read on older topics there are a lot of issues with stock 5.0.1, like lower battery life, lags and other stuff.
There have probably been a few OTA updates that might have fixed those issues?
What are you're guys experience so far with stock 5.0.1?
I'm still on 4.4.2 btw, so far it works great.

If you have i9505. Is recommend updating and flashing @Albe95 S6 Port which is the best current rom for S4
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What about stock 5.0.1, yours and other peoples experience?
I just got the phone, so I'd like to keep it stock for now.

No and never update anything your phone in any way!
Update = Problems. Lollipop already proved that.
Hope you have not yet updated !

I haven't updated yet.
So I guess I should stay on 4.4.2 then.

Stay where you are. If you want lollipop go custom or gpe.

I too is still on 4.4.2, might try a custom lollipop

Erroneous91 said:
Hello,
like the topic name says, should I update my phone to Lollipop?
I've read on older topics there are a lot of issues with stock 5.0.1, like lower battery life, lags and other stuff.
There have probably been a few OTA updates that might have fixed those issues?
What are you're guys experience so far with stock 5.0.1?
I'm still on 4.4.2 btw, so far it works great.
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Stay where you are ,Lollipop has battery drain!!!

Thanks for all your input on this guys, I really appreciate it.
Hopefully Samsung will fix it through future updates.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app

Don't count on Samsung fixing anything in a timely fashion. At this point it's highly unlikely the S4 will ever see Android 5.1.1, especially if Samsung can't even be bothered to update the Google Play Edition S4 to 5.1.1 despite every other GPE phone already receiving it.
If you want a stock-ish custom Android 5.x ROM for your S4, there are at least three decent ones in the I9505 Development section: Imperium ROM, Lollirom, and Albe95's S6 port. Currently I'm using the S6 port as it's the only one of the three that is running Android 5.1.1.

BUMP'ing my old thread a month later because I don't need to create a new one.
Same question, there probably have been a lot of OTA updates after the first 5.0.1 came out on the S4,
is it worth now updating to 5.0.1?
Have the battery issues/lags/whatever problems been fixed?
I'm still on 4.4.2 and I'm tempted to update but I don't wanna get any problems.
The looks and feel of 5.0.1 are nothing if in expense of performance/battery.
Thank you for your time.

Erroneous91 said:
BUMP'ing my old thread a month later because I don't need to create a new one.
Same question, there probably have been a lot of OTA updates after the first 5.0.1 came out on the S4,
is it worth now updating to 5.0.1?
Have the battery issues/lags/whatever problems been fixed?
I'm still on 4.4.2 and I'm tempted to updated but I don't wanna get any problems.
The looks and feel of 5.0.1 are nothing if in expense of performance/battery.
Thank you for your time.
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No, don't do it. I tried recently. Still crappy (clean install). So I'm back and will stay on KK for this devise. Faster, more reliable and fewer bugs.

DON'T, as others said stay at kitkat or older ,but if need lollipop so badly one of the following (both requires updating to lollipop)=
1.CyanogenMod or cm based ROMs(for touchwiz haters,half stable,recommended=CyanogenMod itself)
2.touchwiz based roms(for touchwiz fans or the people who are trying to be original, sometimes fully stable, sometimes half stable,recommended=able's s6 port or able's lollirom)
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