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Moto X+1 or Droid Ultra sequel? Motorola XT912A surfaces with Snapdragon 800!!!

Hi guys...
I guess the new moto is coming:highfive:
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/04/moto-x1-droid-ultra-sequel-motorola-xt912a-surfaces-snapdragon-800/

cascade128 said:
Hi guys...
I guess the new moto is coming:highfive:
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/04/moto-x1-droid-ultra-sequel-motorola-xt912a-surfaces-snapdragon-800/
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5.2" screen? :crying:
Hope they did something magical with the bezels...

chaoslimits said:
5.2" screen? :crying:
Hope they did something magical with the bezels...
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As LG G2

If the new X gets too big I'm sticking with my OG X. I was looking at the oneplusone and it's 6 inches tall. That's a negative for me

AndreaCristiano said:
If the new X gets too big I'm sticking with my OG X. I was looking at the oneplusone and it's 6 inches tall. That's a negative for me
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same for me. if the phone gets too big i will be sticking to my OG X or start looking at other directions. i am not a fan of bigger phones and the X is simply the perfect size for me.

Right now I'm having a hard time seeing any reason that I would trade in my OG Moto X.
I do, however, sincerely hope that Moto doesn't get pulled into the screen size war. When I want a tablet, I will bring my tablet. The X is right at the ideal size for me - similar size to my Galaxy Nexus - and I really don't want it getting any bigger. Maybe the phone is staying the same size and the screen size is indicating one of those sweet wrap-around screens that a couple concepts have floated around.

IF they are indeed going for a brute force edition, then hopefully they skip Snapdragon 800 and go straight to 801. The power efficiency gains of 801 alone should be enough of a reason to chose that and not 800 at this point.

I hope this is the Droid sequel. I don't want a 5.2" phone. Snapdragon 800 doesn't mean anything just like the current x which lists a s4 pro. Both the 600 and the s4 pro have krait 300 cores. Maybe it has two krait 400 cores and Qualcomm is making them brand it an 800.
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What they need to do is keep the same form factor as our OG shrink the crap out of the bezels and make it 5 inch screen if they want to go bigger and whalla bigger screen in a great phone
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They are under new new management from China, where there's a screen size war, maybe that's why the screen got larger. Sigh. I thought the Moto X size is perfect.
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Or they are adding a third level of phone (g,x,x+1)
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x2h said:
They are under new new management from China, ...
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Motorola is NOT under new management from China. The sale to Lenovo won't be complete until July at least, probably August or September. For now they are still owned by Google.

dirtysox said:
Motorola is NOT under new management from China. The sale to Lenovo won't be complete until July at least, probably August or September. For now they are still owned by Google.
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Thank toy for pointing this out. Then I don't understand why they increase the screen size so much.
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T-Keith said:
I hope this is the Droid sequel. I don't want a 5.2" phone. Snapdragon 800 doesn't mean anything just like the current x which lists a s4 pro. Both the 600 and the s4 pro have krait 300 cores. Maybe it has two krait 400 cores and Qualcomm is making them brand it an 800.
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It's registered in the system as a quad-core (per the GFXBench screenshot). I'm not sure how they'll use them yet, but they have to play the numbers game too, unfortunately.
If they had heterogeneous computing like AMD's current desktop APUs, the extra cores could become compute units for the GPU. Though, I don't think the software side is quite ready for that yet.
I'd rather see the S801 because it supports eMMC 5.0. Samsung is currently mass-producing eMMC 5.0 chips, and I'm sure others are too. The one thing that holds a phone back is poor I/O performance, so I'd like to see this.
Also, it'd be nice if they coupled the Adreno 420 to the S800 cores instead. Things are far more GPU driven these days, so that would be a great little semi-custom solution. Otherwise, the 578MHz Adreno 330 will have to do.
Here's what I think:
Droid Ultra/Maxx replacement - 5.2" 1080p
Moto X replacement (X+1) - 4.95" 1080p (or they could surprise us and use a 4.7" 1080p screen)
The camera has been changed to a 12MP unit, and if they're still using OmniVision sensors, then there are 12.6 and 12.8MP options. I think it's the OV12830: http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=120

This is probably just a new Droid series for verizon. I think Moto X+1 will remain the same size with hardware upgrade (Someone mentioned this could be just like the One X and One X+ where the processor changed). I'm not sure how they will go about with the S800. Maybe this will be a tri core S800?( The X8 had a contextual core for voice and another for camera thinggy so since S800 already comes with always on voice baked in it will make sense to get rid of the contextual core.)

Rattles said:
same for me. if the phone gets too big i will be sticking to my OG X or start looking at other directions. i am not a fan of bigger phones and the X is simply the perfect size for me.
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Same here.. the size was one of the biggest pluses about the moto x ( pun intended). I thought they did all this research to find the perfect size and shape.. that's not something that should change with generations.. (unless our hands are getting bigger haha) But they might want to release another tier to compete with the other manufacturers with big screened phones.

I don't know why moto couldn't release x's in multiple screen sizes... Maybe stagger the releases. Get your panties in a bunch over a little choice? Relax...

If the new Moto X turns out to be a 5.2" inch device (which I really doubt), I will have no choice, but to get the new upcoming iphone 6 with a rumored 4.7" display. Companies do not care about the ergonomics, the massive current phones are ridiculous to hold. And yes, hands don't grow, so the phones shouldn't either.
The current Moto X is perfect. I hope Motorola doesn't enter the stupid display "size" market and stays where its at, otherwise goodbye Android and welcome Apple.

eeshlikhith said:
This is probably just a new Droid series for verizon. I think Moto X+1 will remain the same size with hardware upgrade (Someone mentioned this could be just like the One X and One X+ where the processor changed). I'm not sure how they will go about with the S800. Maybe this will be a tri core S800?( The X8 had a contextual core for voice and another for camera thinggy so since S800 already comes with always on voice baked in it will make sense to get rid of the contextual core.)
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Just a random question but you guys don't think the nvidia tegra 4 or even tegra k1 as an option, I mean, always Qualcomm have the entire market and they are good, but I recently download the awesome camera and the info of Google play says can record slow motion video at 120fps with 1080p having the tegra 4 as the SoC, so that makes me think they are so much powerful than the Qualcomm SoC, the iPhone 5s can't record to that resolution even with they "all new" 64 bits processor...
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If there's a Droid Mini Dev Ed I'll consider that.

To everyone who is put off by the size of the Nexus 6

Get a Moto X 2014.
The Nexus 6 is built by Motorola and its basically just a blown up version of the Moto X 2014.
What's the differences between the 2 phones?
Moto X 2014 -
5.2" Display
Snapdragon 801
2gb Ram
1080p (423ppi)
2300 mAh Battery
5.08 oz (144 g)
Nexus 6 -
6" Display
Snapdragon 805
3gb Ram
1440p (493ppi)
3220 mAh Battery
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
6.49 oz (184 g)
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
Yes you're not getting the exact same specs shrunk down into the smaller Moto X but it's more in-line with what a lot of people think a "nexus device should be".
Moderate Specs, Moderate pricing and Stock android.
Here's a size comparison if anyone is interested:
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5

eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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The N5 is a great device no doubt but the Moto X follows the exact same design language as the N6 which imo is an overall a more premium feeling device with better specs
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.

eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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Agreed, there's a larger gap here in Canada between the Nexus 5 at $350 and Moto X at $600 than the X and Nexus 6 which is $750.
I'm unsure of American Moto X prices.

Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.

dtroup64 said:
Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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In the US...

EddyOS said:
In the US...
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And only on Verizon. And it will have a locked bootloader.
For you GSM guys though, it went through the FCC not too long ago with GSM bands. Rumor is that it will be released as the "Moto X Play" or "Moto Maxx" , two names that Motorola trademarked this year.

The only glaring difference here is the Nexus is a developer device, and supported directly by Google.
IMO get the Nexus 6, or Nexus 5 if the 6 is too big. The only carrier left out in that case is VZW, but that's not something new.

shadowcore said:
The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.

floepie said:
Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.

floepie said:
Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014

shadowcore said:
Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Why does it matter if something looks unimpressive when it performs better? Real world performance is what matters in the end...
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jbdan said:
My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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But if you don't like Amoled then you probably weren't gonna get a N6 either? N6 and MotoX but are amoled displays
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GalaxyWhy said:
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
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lol. So, most everything about the phone is different. Gotchya

Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.

bigf00t said:
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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they are holding onto hope it comes with super shrinking feature that's a hidden easter egg in lollipop

bigf00t said:
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Perhaps those people are intrigued to see what other peoples opinions are on it?
I have always been a Nexus guy, but this year I've been disappointed by Google with the screen size. Yeah sure, some people want a big 6" screen but for practical everyday use a lot of people want something a bit smaller - between 4.5" and 5".
I took the plunge and have gone over to the dark side and got myself and iPhone 6. I love it, it does everything an average phone user wants.
It has a decent size screen that looks beautiful in all conditions. Plus there are little extra quirks like 1080p at 60FPS and slow motion video at 240FPS. TouchID in a way that nobody else has managed to beat yet.
I think realistically the Nexus 6 and Lollipop both look amazing and I will be doing my normal thing and watching these forums to see what people do with them but I just can't imagine having to use a phone that big daily.
I will happily go on record and say that I'm sure within 1 - 2 months of owning the Nexus 6 some of you will be fed up with how big it is.

Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'll be fed up with my TOO BIG Nexus. Thanks for proving my point.

I am on the fence about it. I think the hardware improvements for the Nexus 6 are worth it's price, they are all the things I want:
-OIS camera with better sensor
-big enough battery for 5hours screen on time (not possible with my Moto X 2014 unless I use it conservatively)
-wireless charging
-stereo speakers
-all US carriers support
I might hold of preordering the Nexus 6 like I thought I would and wait for some of the reviews, but I know eventually I will likely buy one.
I love the Moto X, but I'm not as impressed with the 2014 version as I should be because they lack the aforementioned features. I just switched to the Moto X 2013 for a couple days and I'm really happy with what it offered for the price, I feel like I could live with the 2013 version. If the 2014 X had all the hardwares features of the Nexus 6 and cost $650 as well, it probably would be better for me.
If I buy the Nexus 6, I would use it as a tablet and backup device, it definitely will not be my daily driver. So I wouldn't be fully utilizing it.
So right now there isn't yet a perfect device for me. I want a phone with Motorola features and design with flagship hardwares, but not phablet size. I guess I have to wait to see what the Moto X 2015 will be like. If it's going to be a 5.5" screen I wouldn't be happy about it (unless they manage to have almost no bezel), it would be a begrudging upgrade, in that case I would get a used Nexus 6.

Moto X Play & Moto X Style Announced - Extremely Disappointed!!

http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.

This is what is called a flounce?

Wutang200 said:
http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.
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I'm assuming you aren't in the US, since that phone won't even be available to us. I'll see what the next nexus phones are like, but chances are it will come down to the camera for me this time around
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I was surprised that they didn't talk about software improvements... I was hoping Motorola would add more assist/voice features
But price is a huge positive....

I think I'll keep hold of my X 2014 for another year and go for the iPhone 7 next year.
I'll really miss Tasker and Moto Voice though
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Yeah, I am totaly disappointed too. I will keep my moto x too and will now try to root it.

Moto Display in a LCD is a big challange.

The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.

zack1175 said:
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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Well I would have called the nexus 6 their flagship of 2014 instead of the turbo since the droid line was Verizon exclusive.
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.
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The X play is more like the step between the MOTO G and the MOTO X. It doesn't look like the nexus is returning to Motorola this year so the new MOTO X probably will be their flagship device. I mean 6 core processor, 21 megapixel camera, 5 megapixel front facing camera.
What could come out topping that on Motorola's end? Oh ya and 5.7 inch full resolution screen. As well as a micro SD slot returning. Did you guys read the specs? What more do you want out of a phone

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Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).

Wutang200 said:
Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I'm pretty sure the majority of users here will happily trade an extra millimeter of thickness to accommodate a bigger battery.

You'll be saying the same thing when the Moto X 2016 is announced lol. It seems to be getting bigger each year. I'm certain next year's model will hit 6 inches in screen size like the Nexus 6.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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I bought the new Moto G, because hell, it's $220, why not? And then will wait to see what the next Nexus is like. I agree, 5.7 is just too damn big.

Sounds like I'm one of the few who likes the new size. It's physically about the same size as the iPhone 6+ which fits in my pocket fine and the larger size is great for movies and games when coupled with the stereo speakers.
I also prefer the LCD to AMOLED. MotoDisplay is still going to be doable and with LCDs becoming more and more efficient it shouldn't have a huge impact on battery life.

abrcrmdl23 said:
Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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Exactly my thoughts on it!
Moto X Play seems a downgrade to me in all aspects other than the battery department. I'll reserve my judgement on the 21MP camera until it's been properly tested.
Another phone I'm now considering is the Z4 Compact if it loses some fat.

Wutang200 said:
Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I agree. I am hoping for the new Nexus 5 will be good...if not I might try to get a OP2. iPhone would be my last resort, but still an option.

zack1175 said:
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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How is a one carrier phone the flagship? The Moto X is, has been and will be the flagship.
I don't mind the new size. As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol. I did say I'd pick my next phone on getting at least a half way decent camera so that will determine it for me. I was also thinking having expandable storage would be important for my purposes so it's nice that Motorola is kind of bucking that trend.
It'll be interesting to see what Google come up with.
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Ikr. The Moto X Pure is going to be fantastic! I can't wait to get it and unlock its bootloader!!!!
I think I will go with a black front, white back and champagne accents. So pretty!
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Chekp38 said:
As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol.
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So true! I use my phone as much as a mobile computing device as a phone so a big screen is good for me too. I can see how guys who want to carry the phone in their pocket don't like larger phones and if you can read those smaller screens great but I can't.

Idol 3 4.7 now available

http://www.alcatelonetouch.us/ALCATEL-ONETOUCH-4-7-inch-SMARTPHONE-Unlocked/dp/B0118EWIXS
Got this twitter spam today.

Yeah, keeping an eye on this as it's a more one-handed friendly size than the 5.5" model. The only concern for me is whether they'll update it to M (or 5.1.1 at the very least).

m only concern is that multi 2 points touch screen, it is not just a smaller screen of its bigger brother.

I'm looking forward to this release. Not really liking all the hype of the devices with 5+ inch screens.
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Only thing that sucks is the other specs are smaller too. Someone at work was looking for a smaller phone than 5.5 too.

I think it's overpriced for what you get, I'd rather go moto g 2015.

3dupunk said:
I think it's overpriced for what you get, I'd rather go moto g 2015.
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Moto G only has 1GB RAM/8GB storage for the US$180 model. This has 1.5GB RAM/16GB storage for the same price. Both use a Snapdragon 410.
You have to go up to the US$220 Moto G to get 2GB RAM/16GB storage.

thedosbox said:
Moto G only has 1GB RAM/8GB storage for the US$180 model. This has 1.5GB RAM/16GB storage for the same price. Both use a Snapdragon 410.
You have to go up to the US$220 Moto G to get 2GB RAM/16GB storage.
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For $40 more you get waterproofing, better build, gorilla glass 3, half a gb more of ram, probably better dev support and Motorola's android skin which is usually very good. Money well spent if you ask me. I wouldn't even consider the $180 moto g, 8gb just isn't enough imo but if I wanted a smaller phone than the 5.5 i3 I'd go moto g for the reasons I mentioned.

3dupunk said:
For $40 more you get waterproofing, better build, gorilla glass 3, half a gb more of ram, probably better dev support and Motorola's android skin which is usually very good. Money well spent if you ask me. I wouldn't even consider the $180 moto g, 8gb just isn't enough imo but if I wanted a smaller phone than the 5.5 i3 I'd go moto g for the reasons I mentioned.
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Not sure why you think Moto has an android "skin", as it's pretty much stock with the addition of a couple of apps (I have an OG Moto X).
Having said that, some people are very price sensitive and @ US$180, the 4.7 Icon would be the better deal. Also, the 1GB/8GB Moto G is the only version sold in Canada - so it's not as if we have the option of getting the 2GB/16GB version.
US$220 is still a good deal for a new phone, but it's edging into OnePlus One territory on swappa.

thedosbox said:
Not sure why you think Moto has an android "skin", as it's pretty much stock with the addition of a couple of apps (I have an OG Moto X).
Having said that, some people are very price sensitive and @ US$180, the 4.7 Icon would be the better deal. Also, the 1GB/8GB Moto G is the only version sold in Canada - so it's not as if we have the option of getting the 2GB/16GB version.
US$220 is still a good deal for a new phone, but it's edging into OnePlus One territory on swappa.
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Moto uses an android skin however light it may be, it's there. Moto is one of the better companies in this regard as most of their work is done in the background and the end user doesn't even realize it.
I can understand that some may not be able to spend more or just don't want to, that's a personal preference and that's why I said I would rather get the moto g 2015 if I wanted a smaller phone in the same price range rather than the 5.5 i3. As far as the moto g 2gb version not being available in canada, I didn't know that but I honestly wasn't thinking about those abroad when I wrote my comment.
The price for the I3 5.5 is in the opo price range new and I still chose the i3 and zf2 over it. Imho the moto g and the 4.7 i3 appeal more so to people who are looking for smaller phones so that knocks the opo out of contention. Also, at least here in the states I would add the LG g2 to the list, which can be had for $150 and has better specs.

Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.

guapinoy said:
Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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I'm thinking of doing the same with my 1/8gb. My main concern is battery life and I see the 4.7 has smaller battery?

ygb said:
I'm thinking of doing the same with my 1/8gb. My main concern is battery life and I see the 4.7 has smaller battery?
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I wouldn't worry about battery life. 4-6 screen on easily and it charges faster than the G especially using quick charger, though it doesn't really support it. I get like 1% a minute.

Also someone from android central forums stated that the idol 3 has the ability to wake up from off using alarm. I verified it and it's awesome. Such an old school feature that no one does anymore.

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Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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What didn't you like about the moto g other than the lack of nfc and gyroscope? I'm thinking to get thisor the moto g. My 4gb zf2 is nice, but that dim screen is killing me outside. My other concern is hows the perfomace of the idol3? Feeling any lag? Also not so sure about the multi touch screen. I mean 2 points....come on.

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What didn't you like about the moto g other than the lack of nfc and gyroscope? I'm thinking to get thisor the moto g. My 4gb zf2 is nice, but that dim screen is killing me outside. My other concern is hows the perfomace of the idol3? Feeling any lag? Also not so sure about the multi touch screen. I mean 2 points....come on.
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The screen on the Moto G was washed out. Kind of bothered me. Idol 3s screen is better and brighter. No real lag. It is a great well rounded phone especially for the price. As far as multi touch points, I've gotten 5 with this app.

How about the visibility of the idol 4. 7 outside directly under the sun? This is what bothers me the most, I can't see anything outside on my zf2 when is nice and sunny.

I have the 5.5 idol 3 and the screen reaches over 600 nits outside and has excellent contrast. Cannot say about 4.7 model.
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How about the visibility of the idol 4. 7 outside directly under the sun? This is what bothers me the most, I can't see anything outside on my zf2 when is nice and sunny.
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It will be brighter than the zf2.

3dupunk said:
I can understand that some may not be able to spend more or just don't want to, that's a personal preference and that's why I said I would rather get the moto g 2015 if I wanted a smaller phone in the same price range rather than the 5.5 i3. As far as the moto g 2gb version not being available in canada, I didn't know that but I honestly wasn't thinking about those abroad when I wrote my comment.
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So what you're really saying is that you wouldn't buy a US$180 phone? Cool, everyone has different priorities.
So why state that the 4.7 is a worse deal than it's competition at the same price?
The price for the I3 5.5 is in the opo price range new and I still chose the i3 and zf2 over it. Imho the moto g and the 4.7 i3 appeal more so to people who are looking for smaller phones so that knocks the opo out of contention. Also, at least here in the states I would add the LG g2 to the list, which can be had for $150 and has better specs.
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Yes, paying more gives people more options - that's the point.
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Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it after you've used it for a few weeks. Any lag/stutter? Does it heat up when navigation is running? Any issues with BT? How's the screen holding up (some phones don't have a very good oleophobic coating)?

Should I Play Along??

I am stuck between Moto X Play and Moto X 2014... Can someone differentiate them on basis of Processor and what effect it has on phone,,
I have seen benchmarks of 615 to be quite close of 801, i know 615 overheats in other phones but is it as bad as non underclocked 810 heat
I Need Battery To Last Me atleast a day Without much problems (Not very heaviest of the users) and a Good Camera
Not much gaming fan although I do some occasionally
Both of Them are available at near Same price Here.. So anyone with experience of both can help me out??

I'd take the 2014 easily

Go for Moto X play

100rabh7791 said:
Go for Moto X play
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Why

dicecuber said:
Why
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Coz its new , its better , better cam n battery , performance is fine , gaming is really good , and it will get more updates

100rabh7791 said:
Coz its new , its better , better cam n battery , performance is fine , gaming is really good , and it will get more updates
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Isn't the processor in the 2014 X better?

dicecuber said:
Isn't the processor in the 2014 X better?
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So a phone isn't just about processor .. its over all and play is better anyday

Currently the Moto X Play is much better with battery life but generally feels less responsive and slower. The screen on the Moto X 2 will in fact degrade after a year. I've had mine for that long and its not even close to what it used to be, not to mention amoled burn in. It's up to you really, I would probably still choose the Play even though it feels noticeably slower right now. We'll have to see if Motorola fixes that in the next update, I god damn hope so. My Moto X 2013 felt more responsive than this phone.