http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.
This is what is called a flounce?
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http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.
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I'm assuming you aren't in the US, since that phone won't even be available to us. I'll see what the next nexus phones are like, but chances are it will come down to the camera for me this time around
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I was surprised that they didn't talk about software improvements... I was hoping Motorola would add more assist/voice features
But price is a huge positive....
I think I'll keep hold of my X 2014 for another year and go for the iPhone 7 next year.
I'll really miss Tasker and Moto Voice though
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Yeah, I am totaly disappointed too. I will keep my moto x too and will now try to root it.
Moto Display in a LCD is a big challange.
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.
zack1175 said:
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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Well I would have called the nexus 6 their flagship of 2014 instead of the turbo since the droid line was Verizon exclusive.
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.
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The X play is more like the step between the MOTO G and the MOTO X. It doesn't look like the nexus is returning to Motorola this year so the new MOTO X probably will be their flagship device. I mean 6 core processor, 21 megapixel camera, 5 megapixel front facing camera.
What could come out topping that on Motorola's end? Oh ya and 5.7 inch full resolution screen. As well as a micro SD slot returning. Did you guys read the specs? What more do you want out of a phone
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Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I'm pretty sure the majority of users here will happily trade an extra millimeter of thickness to accommodate a bigger battery.
You'll be saying the same thing when the Moto X 2016 is announced lol. It seems to be getting bigger each year. I'm certain next year's model will hit 6 inches in screen size like the Nexus 6.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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I bought the new Moto G, because hell, it's $220, why not? And then will wait to see what the next Nexus is like. I agree, 5.7 is just too damn big.
Sounds like I'm one of the few who likes the new size. It's physically about the same size as the iPhone 6+ which fits in my pocket fine and the larger size is great for movies and games when coupled with the stereo speakers.
I also prefer the LCD to AMOLED. MotoDisplay is still going to be doable and with LCDs becoming more and more efficient it shouldn't have a huge impact on battery life.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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Exactly my thoughts on it!
Moto X Play seems a downgrade to me in all aspects other than the battery department. I'll reserve my judgement on the 21MP camera until it's been properly tested.
Another phone I'm now considering is the Z4 Compact if it loses some fat.
Wutang200 said:
Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I agree. I am hoping for the new Nexus 5 will be good...if not I might try to get a OP2. iPhone would be my last resort, but still an option.
zack1175 said:
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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How is a one carrier phone the flagship? The Moto X is, has been and will be the flagship.
I don't mind the new size. As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol. I did say I'd pick my next phone on getting at least a half way decent camera so that will determine it for me. I was also thinking having expandable storage would be important for my purposes so it's nice that Motorola is kind of bucking that trend.
It'll be interesting to see what Google come up with.
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Ikr. The Moto X Pure is going to be fantastic! I can't wait to get it and unlock its bootloader!!!!
I think I will go with a black front, white back and champagne accents. So pretty!
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As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol.
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So true! I use my phone as much as a mobile computing device as a phone so a big screen is good for me too. I can see how guys who want to carry the phone in their pocket don't like larger phones and if you can read those smaller screens great but I can't.
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Hi guys...
I guess the new moto is coming:highfive:
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/04/moto-x1-droid-ultra-sequel-motorola-xt912a-surfaces-snapdragon-800/
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Hi guys...
I guess the new moto is coming:highfive:
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/04/moto-x1-droid-ultra-sequel-motorola-xt912a-surfaces-snapdragon-800/
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5.2" screen? :crying:
Hope they did something magical with the bezels...
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5.2" screen? :crying:
Hope they did something magical with the bezels...
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As LG G2
If the new X gets too big I'm sticking with my OG X. I was looking at the oneplusone and it's 6 inches tall. That's a negative for me
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If the new X gets too big I'm sticking with my OG X. I was looking at the oneplusone and it's 6 inches tall. That's a negative for me
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same for me. if the phone gets too big i will be sticking to my OG X or start looking at other directions. i am not a fan of bigger phones and the X is simply the perfect size for me.
Right now I'm having a hard time seeing any reason that I would trade in my OG Moto X.
I do, however, sincerely hope that Moto doesn't get pulled into the screen size war. When I want a tablet, I will bring my tablet. The X is right at the ideal size for me - similar size to my Galaxy Nexus - and I really don't want it getting any bigger. Maybe the phone is staying the same size and the screen size is indicating one of those sweet wrap-around screens that a couple concepts have floated around.
IF they are indeed going for a brute force edition, then hopefully they skip Snapdragon 800 and go straight to 801. The power efficiency gains of 801 alone should be enough of a reason to chose that and not 800 at this point.
I hope this is the Droid sequel. I don't want a 5.2" phone. Snapdragon 800 doesn't mean anything just like the current x which lists a s4 pro. Both the 600 and the s4 pro have krait 300 cores. Maybe it has two krait 400 cores and Qualcomm is making them brand it an 800.
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What they need to do is keep the same form factor as our OG shrink the crap out of the bezels and make it 5 inch screen if they want to go bigger and whalla bigger screen in a great phone
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They are under new new management from China, where there's a screen size war, maybe that's why the screen got larger. Sigh. I thought the Moto X size is perfect.
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Or they are adding a third level of phone (g,x,x+1)
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They are under new new management from China, ...
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Motorola is NOT under new management from China. The sale to Lenovo won't be complete until July at least, probably August or September. For now they are still owned by Google.
dirtysox said:
Motorola is NOT under new management from China. The sale to Lenovo won't be complete until July at least, probably August or September. For now they are still owned by Google.
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Thank toy for pointing this out. Then I don't understand why they increase the screen size so much.
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T-Keith said:
I hope this is the Droid sequel. I don't want a 5.2" phone. Snapdragon 800 doesn't mean anything just like the current x which lists a s4 pro. Both the 600 and the s4 pro have krait 300 cores. Maybe it has two krait 400 cores and Qualcomm is making them brand it an 800.
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It's registered in the system as a quad-core (per the GFXBench screenshot). I'm not sure how they'll use them yet, but they have to play the numbers game too, unfortunately.
If they had heterogeneous computing like AMD's current desktop APUs, the extra cores could become compute units for the GPU. Though, I don't think the software side is quite ready for that yet.
I'd rather see the S801 because it supports eMMC 5.0. Samsung is currently mass-producing eMMC 5.0 chips, and I'm sure others are too. The one thing that holds a phone back is poor I/O performance, so I'd like to see this.
Also, it'd be nice if they coupled the Adreno 420 to the S800 cores instead. Things are far more GPU driven these days, so that would be a great little semi-custom solution. Otherwise, the 578MHz Adreno 330 will have to do.
Here's what I think:
Droid Ultra/Maxx replacement - 5.2" 1080p
Moto X replacement (X+1) - 4.95" 1080p (or they could surprise us and use a 4.7" 1080p screen)
The camera has been changed to a 12MP unit, and if they're still using OmniVision sensors, then there are 12.6 and 12.8MP options. I think it's the OV12830: http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=120
This is probably just a new Droid series for verizon. I think Moto X+1 will remain the same size with hardware upgrade (Someone mentioned this could be just like the One X and One X+ where the processor changed). I'm not sure how they will go about with the S800. Maybe this will be a tri core S800?( The X8 had a contextual core for voice and another for camera thinggy so since S800 already comes with always on voice baked in it will make sense to get rid of the contextual core.)
Rattles said:
same for me. if the phone gets too big i will be sticking to my OG X or start looking at other directions. i am not a fan of bigger phones and the X is simply the perfect size for me.
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Same here.. the size was one of the biggest pluses about the moto x ( pun intended). I thought they did all this research to find the perfect size and shape.. that's not something that should change with generations.. (unless our hands are getting bigger haha) But they might want to release another tier to compete with the other manufacturers with big screened phones.
I don't know why moto couldn't release x's in multiple screen sizes... Maybe stagger the releases. Get your panties in a bunch over a little choice? Relax...
If the new Moto X turns out to be a 5.2" inch device (which I really doubt), I will have no choice, but to get the new upcoming iphone 6 with a rumored 4.7" display. Companies do not care about the ergonomics, the massive current phones are ridiculous to hold. And yes, hands don't grow, so the phones shouldn't either.
The current Moto X is perfect. I hope Motorola doesn't enter the stupid display "size" market and stays where its at, otherwise goodbye Android and welcome Apple.
eeshlikhith said:
This is probably just a new Droid series for verizon. I think Moto X+1 will remain the same size with hardware upgrade (Someone mentioned this could be just like the One X and One X+ where the processor changed). I'm not sure how they will go about with the S800. Maybe this will be a tri core S800?( The X8 had a contextual core for voice and another for camera thinggy so since S800 already comes with always on voice baked in it will make sense to get rid of the contextual core.)
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Just a random question but you guys don't think the nvidia tegra 4 or even tegra k1 as an option, I mean, always Qualcomm have the entire market and they are good, but I recently download the awesome camera and the info of Google play says can record slow motion video at 120fps with 1080p having the tegra 4 as the SoC, so that makes me think they are so much powerful than the Qualcomm SoC, the iPhone 5s can't record to that resolution even with they "all new" 64 bits processor...
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If there's a Droid Mini Dev Ed I'll consider that.
Do you guys think there'll be a surge of orders from Nexus users who don't want to upgrade to a phone as big as the Nexus 6?
The new Moto X is the closest to a Nexus phone now (not phablet).
I think it's more likely that they stick with the Nexus 5 and pray Google comes back down to earth next year. I can't imagine that releasing a 5.9" phone as your one and only is going to pay off.
Yeah, I think the Moto X might pick of a few Nexus users (myself included) if the next Nexus device really only offers a 6" screen. But I suspect the reasons people want a Nexus device go deeper than that. The 1st Gen. Moto X got almost no development. If you want the roms and the hacks and all that, nothing is like the Nexus (and the Moto X is far from 2nd runner up, in terms of amount of development). So the near stock rom on the Moto X is a bit of a mirage. I'm still not sure I'm ready to make the jump and lose out on the development options (as well as the increased control and potential privacy offered by something like Cyanogen, over any manufacturer maintained rom).
Also the price on the Nexus has always been at least $100 lower than what a Moto X goes for. That's going to be a big deciding factor. Nothing talks like money.
But for people who aren't into the roms and just like the stock Android experience and don't care about price so much, maybe some of them will jump ship from the Nexus.
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Project:Frankenphone said:
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Literally everything is pointing to a 5.9" screen. No one is even acknowledging that a 5.2" device is even in the works any more. More likely the 5.2" phone everyone was talking about was the Droid Turbo.
Are the Nexus 5 and Moto X using the same size sim?
EDIT: Nope. Curses.
Yea cause I'm most likely one of them. I think the better speakers is what I want most. Weak speakers is the only thing I don't like about the Nexus
I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I was a Nexus 4 user, and why I got the Moto X is because my n4 was dying on me. Also, it's a nice phone, and the added hardware and software tweaks is worth enough for the price imo. I just want a clean stock experience, and that is why I like both the Nexus and Moto X
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Nexus user here - owned every Nexus phone since the original. I've picked up a Moto X simply because this year's Nexus is too large. But I agree with the analysis here - the X is a good substitute, but it isn't quite the same thing and I hope we won't see any negatives from that. If we don't get L pronto I will be complaining all over Twitter :crying:
I bought the nexus 5 first and the moto x after but sold my nexus 5 and used the moto x exclusively. My wife got a new iphone so now i'm using her nexus 5.
Things i like since moving to the Nexus 5
larger crisper screen.
snappier performance (very noticable) whether in games, browsing, and using google now voice commands, everything just comes quicker and faster.
willingness to take more pictures because it has a better camera
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
Touchless controls. I can't wake my phone from sleep. I don't use it much but when I want to I can't with the N5
--mics Moto's mics are awesome. I don't have to raise my voice like I do with the N5 when using the OK google command.
* on the N5 i have the google voice detection turned on for all screens and it drains the battery a little more. When plugged in, i leave the screen on so I have somewhat of touchless control.
Speaker - The moto's speaker is super loud compared to the N5.
Moto Assist - I use "AGENT" for the N5 but it's just not the same. The text reading and replying is very similar but with the Moto's mics the experience is better on the moto, but agent works very well as an alternative. Incoming calls aren't read out loud to you in Agent but they are in Moto Assist. AGENT relies on connecting to a trusted device in order for drive mode to come on while moto assist is able to detect when you're driving even w/o connecting to the trusted bluetooth device.
Battery life - i consistently get an hour more of SOT time with the moto over the N5 with just about the exact same type of usage.
There are a few other quirks between the two but these are the major ones for me.
The Moto X 2014 seems to blend both of these phones together and that's why I'm really wanting it, despite the battery life complaints. If it's equal to or greater to the moto x 2013 I'll probably get it. ESPECIALLY if the moto nexus doesn't have the moto tweaks. I doubt it does but i'm holding onto that small sliver of hope it does. These moto enhancements are very very very usual and i wish Google would bake these into Android but then Moto wouldn't be as unique any longer.
biggiestuff said:
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
My take on it is that Motorola provides the nearest to Nexus experience (aside from GPE editions), with some extras in the sensors/software. The new Moto X is of the same hardware generation as the Nexus 5, so I think most will stick with the 5 unless they want a larger phone, and those will go to the 6 (which is about 1/2 generation newer if we believe the Snapdragon 805 [I almost called it a dragonball - now that will show my age in the mobile chip world] rumor). The phone jumpers will end up trying both the X and the 6, and may end up back at the 5.
I've been scratching my head between a Nexus 5 and Moto X to replace my work-supplied blackberry (company started to support Android in August) and think I am about to pull the trigger on the X. I thought about the M8 GPE, but holding both the new X and the M8 yesterday, the X definitely won out in-hand.
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
I have an N5, OPO and Moto X 2014. The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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Also, the battery drain will be a little bit more since the n5 screen is LCD. Having an active display like feature is made for amoled screens if you want to conserve battery
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I'm considering the Moto X but I am waiting to see if a root method (an prefereably an easy way to unlock the bootloader like the first gen Moto X) appears for the non-pure edition devices. If that doesn't happen by January, I may just have to rock a stupidly huge device. Being able to root and customize/backup/automate to my heart's desire is the most important feature of a phone to me. Second is stock Android and fast updates (so obviously the Moto X meets that).
For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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Even after the most recent GPU update lol I still own mine and play with it occasionally
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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I know. Almost 3yrs at this point. But what was I gonna do? We have unlimited data on our two phones, and get a nice discount through my wife's work. And she travels in places like Kentucky and West Virginia so the Verizon coverage is a big deal. If it was just me I would've switched to T-Mobile already. So, considering that....what could I do but keep the Galaxy Nexus? I couldn't stand Samsung's crapware etc, and nothing else interested me. The new X is the first thing that seems like a real option.
I hope it lives up to my expectations.
My wife is still rocking a Motorola Droid Razr. If you think the Galaxy Nexus struggles to function now you should try her phone....she gave up before me, and she still uses a Blackberry Curve for work.
Get a Moto X 2014.
The Nexus 6 is built by Motorola and its basically just a blown up version of the Moto X 2014.
What's the differences between the 2 phones?
Moto X 2014 -
5.2" Display
Snapdragon 801
2gb Ram
1080p (423ppi)
2300 mAh Battery
5.08 oz (144 g)
Nexus 6 -
6" Display
Snapdragon 805
3gb Ram
1440p (493ppi)
3220 mAh Battery
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
6.49 oz (184 g)
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
Yes you're not getting the exact same specs shrunk down into the smaller Moto X but it's more in-line with what a lot of people think a "nexus device should be".
Moderate Specs, Moderate pricing and Stock android.
Here's a size comparison if anyone is interested:
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
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eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
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The N5 is a great device no doubt but the Moto X follows the exact same design language as the N6 which imo is an overall a more premium feeling device with better specs
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
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Agreed, there's a larger gap here in Canada between the Nexus 5 at $350 and Moto X at $600 than the X and Nexus 6 which is $750.
I'm unsure of American Moto X prices.
Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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In the US...
EddyOS said:
In the US...
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And only on Verizon. And it will have a locked bootloader.
For you GSM guys though, it went through the FCC not too long ago with GSM bands. Rumor is that it will be released as the "Moto X Play" or "Moto Maxx" , two names that Motorola trademarked this year.
The only glaring difference here is the Nexus is a developer device, and supported directly by Google.
IMO get the Nexus 6, or Nexus 5 if the 6 is too big. The only carrier left out in that case is VZW, but that's not something new.
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Why does it matter if something looks unimpressive when it performs better? Real world performance is what matters in the end...
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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But if you don't like Amoled then you probably weren't gonna get a N6 either? N6 and MotoX but are amoled displays
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Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
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lol. So, most everything about the phone is different. Gotchya
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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they are holding onto hope it comes with super shrinking feature that's a hidden easter egg in lollipop
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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Perhaps those people are intrigued to see what other peoples opinions are on it?
I have always been a Nexus guy, but this year I've been disappointed by Google with the screen size. Yeah sure, some people want a big 6" screen but for practical everyday use a lot of people want something a bit smaller - between 4.5" and 5".
I took the plunge and have gone over to the dark side and got myself and iPhone 6. I love it, it does everything an average phone user wants.
It has a decent size screen that looks beautiful in all conditions. Plus there are little extra quirks like 1080p at 60FPS and slow motion video at 240FPS. TouchID in a way that nobody else has managed to beat yet.
I think realistically the Nexus 6 and Lollipop both look amazing and I will be doing my normal thing and watching these forums to see what people do with them but I just can't imagine having to use a phone that big daily.
I will happily go on record and say that I'm sure within 1 - 2 months of owning the Nexus 6 some of you will be fed up with how big it is.
Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'll be fed up with my TOO BIG Nexus. Thanks for proving my point.
I am on the fence about it. I think the hardware improvements for the Nexus 6 are worth it's price, they are all the things I want:
-OIS camera with better sensor
-big enough battery for 5hours screen on time (not possible with my Moto X 2014 unless I use it conservatively)
-wireless charging
-stereo speakers
-all US carriers support
I might hold of preordering the Nexus 6 like I thought I would and wait for some of the reviews, but I know eventually I will likely buy one.
I love the Moto X, but I'm not as impressed with the 2014 version as I should be because they lack the aforementioned features. I just switched to the Moto X 2013 for a couple days and I'm really happy with what it offered for the price, I feel like I could live with the 2013 version. If the 2014 X had all the hardwares features of the Nexus 6 and cost $650 as well, it probably would be better for me.
If I buy the Nexus 6, I would use it as a tablet and backup device, it definitely will not be my daily driver. So I wouldn't be fully utilizing it.
So right now there isn't yet a perfect device for me. I want a phone with Motorola features and design with flagship hardwares, but not phablet size. I guess I have to wait to see what the Moto X 2015 will be like. If it's going to be a 5.5" screen I wouldn't be happy about it (unless they manage to have almost no bezel), it would be a begrudging upgrade, in that case I would get a used Nexus 6.
http://www.redmondpie.com/motorola-moto-x-2015-specs-leaked-online/
Snapdragon 808
4GB RAM (bit OTT me thinks)
3280mah Battery (finally!!!)
5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
16MP Rear Camera (with OIS I hope!)
5MP front camera
No micro SD slot (who cares in this day and age!)
32GB or 64GB storage options
I've got a feeling that huge battery isn't going to last much longer than the current gen Moto X due to that power hungry QHD screen
If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
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If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size.
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Same here
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5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
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5.2 inch is the perfect size for me! I think QHD is a good choice but I can live w/o it.
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If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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I have both the 2014 Moto X and the Moto Maxx. If they do go QHD in the Moto X hopefully they can source a better quality screen then the Maxx uses. It is QHD and offers nothing over the Moto X screen. Myself and friends have compared the screens side by side and the Moto X screen always wins.
The bigger the battery the better. I'd much prefer something closer to the Maxx battery which is 3900 mah. Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
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I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone, but I'll stick to the screen. It looked like absolute crap compared to my Nexus 7 and my Nexus 5 (which I got the day it came out and immediately sold my Moto X). Going from my Nexus 7 screen to my Moto X screen was like going from an HD flat screen TV to a 1950s box-style TV. You can see the list of phones I've owned in my signature, plus I purchased a GS4 for my girlfriend and have some experience using it. I rank the Moto X 2013 at the very bottom of that list without question. On the flip side, I rank the Moto X 2014 #2 on the list, right behind the Nexus 5. That is adjusting for the time frame, of course--I would rather have a Moto X 2014 than a Nexus 5 today, but the Nexus 5 from Oct. 2013-2014 was better than the Moto X Sept. 2014-Sept. 2015.
I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life or two days of moderate use. I'd also like the screen to stay at 5.2" The Nexus 6 is just too big for me.
Good - 5.2" screen size and larger battery. 808 instead of 810.
Bad - QHD screen, waste of battery and will increase cost. Will also cause lag as the 808 chipset tries to push that many pixels.
4GB RAM seems unlikely.
Just realized the SD808 comes with a slower adreno (418) than the SD805 (420). Crap.
I'm waiting on anandtech's review to see what the real difference is between the two GPUs. I'm hoping just a slightly lower clock speed.
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Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Errrr, the secondary coil of the wireless charging system can be curved, no problem with that, the primary coil would still induces electricity on the secondary coil, curved or not.
QHD doesnt necessarily mean battery killer anymore.
With each successive generation Samsung has been systematically improving the power efficiency of their OLED displays. We measured a 20 percent improvement in display power efficiency between the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy S6, which is especially impressive given that the Galaxy S6 has almost double the number of pixels and therefore much higher processing overhead
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm
They can be pretty efficient.
For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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QHD is a technology that is being pushed to the consumers as just benefits. In the future, the cons will be minimized because we will have stringer SOC with minimal impact in this resolution, most energy efficient screens and better batteries. But it's feasible in the near future, not in this year...
I prefer a cheaper phone or a smoother and battery efficient phone now, not 600 ppi in my 5" display...
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Those are some very specific price guesses!
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Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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But the N6 has wireless charging and a curved back?
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Paddington said:
I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone,
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I love my MX13 - great as a daily driver. Maybe you got a bad one?
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I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life.
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They would have to make the phone thick and heavy like the Droid Turbo/Maxx to get that kind of battery performance. I prefer the lighter, thinner Moto X to the Turbo/Maxx.
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For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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No one knows yet, but if it is like the Moto X 2014, it will likely be $500 on launch for the base model and $50 more for the larger storage and $25 more for the premium backs. But now that Lenovo owns Motorola maybe not.
These so called leaks always make me laugh. I could have made up a spreadsheet of specs and it would look pretty similar to this. I think these sites makeup these leaks for clicks. My preference would be same screen size at 1080, 3000mAh battery and better camera processing sw.
Same screen better color calibration, same edge thinness but slightly thicker middle to fit a 2800-3000mah battery, camera obviously,
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I've been hoping for an announcement regarding the Moto X 2016. I currently have the Moto X 2015 and love the phone. I don't want the Moto Z due to the higher price and lack of front facing speakers. If there's no Moto X 2016/2017 what will you get?
I'm currently looking at the ZTE Axon 7. It has everything I was hoping for in this year's Moto X except Moto's awesome customization features to stock Android. It also has an awesome QHD AMOLED display, dual front facing speakers, fingerprint scanner on back, all aluminum build, support for microSD, support for dual SIM cards, and runs the same processor as the Galaxy S7 all at a $399 price tag. Reviews are amazing aside from the camera and it seems to be similar to the camera on my Moto X Pure. I can live with that.
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TBH, this will likely be my last Moto phone... Moto is not Motorola and the respect for customers and devices that Motorola had is gone under Lenovo, whether there is a Moto X 2016/2017 model or not, I won't be getting one.
The Axon 7 looks solid, but at this time I will probably stick with my MXPE, if I had to replace it today it would be a solid contender, along side the OnePlus 3, or the new LeEco devices announced today look interesting, or I would probably grab a sub-$200 budget or used device temporarily.
I see the Android market changing, with LeEco and Xiaomi bringing phones to the US market (or soon to be), other Chinese manufacturers will likely follow suit, which could bring about a revolution in the mid-range price and device category.
We had OG Droid Turbos. Decided that I wasn't wanting to deal with Lenovo anymore so we jumped over to the Note 7, and we all know how that went. So I was able to pick up MXPs for $250 each to tide us over till next year. As soon as the Note 8 or whatever the replacement for it is released, we are gone from Moto again.
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If I'm honest I have no idea. Decided for now to stick with X Style. I bought a OnePlus 3 the other week from a phone store but by the time it came to picking it up I'd decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. Trying one in the shop it didn't feel all that faster than the Style though sure the benchmarks would say otherwise. No stereo speakers and although amoled, wasn't as bright. Not to mention Moto display, double twist for camera and double chop for torch.
I'll consider an X Style/Pure 2016/17 if there is even one. True, Lenovo have gone downhill as far as updates are concerned. It's to be seen how/if an upgrade to android 7 goes.
So I still like my X Style. If it fell under a bus tomorrow then maybe an OP3. More probable I'd get another X Style! I've looked Moto Z and not keen. Other than that I've considered a Samsung GS7 and even the Note 7. Axon 7 could be a contender but unavailable in the UK currently.
My Moto X Style is still stock and not had the urge to root or load a custom room. Works day in day out. Battery lasts most days but turbo charge it either by mains or vehicle soon tops it up. I have a tempered Glass screen protector but don't bother with a case and never takes any harm. I work outdoors in a rough manual environment. I still think as phones go it's underrated.
No more Moto for me. As a T-Mobile customer with the XT1575, and having the VoLTE choppy audio almost this entire year, and Moto not providing a fix but almost promising the fix will be in N if it ever gets released, I don't have any reason to give them any more of my money.
My wife's Honor 5x has been solid on CM13 and I am eyeing a pair of Honor 8 phones @ Best Buy for $400 each. I may wait for a price drop and CM14 as EMUI is a bit irritating at times.
Now that Lenovo seems to be killing the Moto brand, I hate Samsung software, LG has some hardware solder issues, I am beginning to like the one plus
A lot of folks are going with the Google Pixel XL phones, but I cannot stomach that ridiculous $800 price. About the only phone I would have purchased for near that price would have been the Note 7 had it not 'gone up in flames'. Thankfully I still have my MXPE trucking on, so I'll wait till next fall and decide then with whatever is available at a decent price. Maybe by then the Pixel XL's will come down in price from the stratosphere.
I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
I like this phone, but I don't like the direction moto is trending. Nexus is dead.
OnePlus is looking like the best choice remaining for a modder/enthusiast.
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I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
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Gets good enough reviews.
I said earlier that the Axon 7 wasn't available in the UK but I'm wrong as amazon have them. Price seems to have gone up to £482. It's got too expensive so off my list now. I'd pay a little more and buy a Moto z.
If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
warvelous said:
The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Mysterious-Motorola-device-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Myst...-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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Saw that but I'm not convinced at all. It looks exactly like the Moto X Style/Pure except the bezels look a little more narrow. The picture is blurred except for the viewable screen. Even the most novice of Photoshop users could recreate this. For that matter, even the most basic photo editing software could do a better job than what is seen.
I plan on sticking with my Moto X Pure for a while. It performs very well in my opinion on the stock firmware, I've tried several ROMs and IMO it is hard to beat Moto's stock Android. The Snapdragon 808 is plenty powerful for day to day usage. I do a bit of 3D gaming as well, and with Nougat comes Vulkan, which is becoming more common, so that should help satisfy my need for graphics performance a while longer.
I went with the Axon 7. The hardware is essentially an updated Moto X Pure. The software is just as buggy but it looks like ZTE is so far responsive to making improvements.
TBH, I don't really see the need to upgrade my phone anymore.
I think specwise the number can keep getting bigger and bigger but for me, the specs that a phone truly need had peaked already.
I was really interested in the Moto Z and the Hasselblad camera attachment but I can't take the price at the moment. I received the MXPE for free so I can't complain too much about it. I am considering rooting because I want gravity box to change the navigation buttons and the dpi but I won't be doing much more than that.
Maybe this time next year when the new Pixel is on the way I'll get one of those or the Moto Z
it's hard decision since there is no true moto x alternative right now ;\ decent specs with great price and stock up to date android, since google killed nexus there is no other phone like that. Hopefully I don't have to make this decison yet because I've bought this phone few months before so I'll keep it for next few years.
the xiami mi mix looks very nice, with nova launcher - im really thinking of getting it, but will hold on until reviews come out