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KitKat is awful

Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Care to share what monumental changes you were expecting? I see a lot of people disappointed by the update, but they don't voice what their expectations were.
You might do well to read the change log: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html. Obviously things like default SMS and translucent nav and status bars won't make it to the Nexus 7, but those weren't really big deal changes anyway. Bigger, useful changes happened under the hood. Lower system requirements and memory management improvements means 4.4 is lighter and leaner. Host Card Emulation means that things like Google Wallet are no longer reliant on a "secure element" in the device. The printing framework means any app can print any type of content using cloud printing, like Google Cloud Print. Immersive mode means nice changes for full screen apps.
Etc., etc. Just go take a look at that change log and come back and say that, "Absolutely nothing changed."

All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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The S3 Kid said:
All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.
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Uh. What? They dropped support for the Galaxy Nexus, which is only 2 years old at this point. Technically they would have supported it still if TI had updated their chipset drivers, but it is still hardly a 5 year old device. They only officially support the Nexus 4 (1 year old) and the Nexus 7 2012 (1 year and a bit old). If manufacturers like Samsung or HTC choose to support legacy devices, that's their thing, not Google. Google provides the source. Samsung, HTC, and Moto are only supporting their more recent lineups too.
Maybe do some research before you start spouting off on the Internet.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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The S3 Kid said:
All updates will probably be like this from now on because they have to cater for five year old devices.
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Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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My favorite part of this update is the Immersion mode for Reading Ebooks & the new 4.4 default Email App.

I think kitkat is one of the most exciting releases since ice cream sandwich but most changes are indeed under the hood and not officially ready yet, like ART but kitkat is an awesome start for a new future for Android.

oldblue910 said:
Are you for real? All you're essentially complaining about is the fact that there is no visual changes. The reason there aren't many visual changes is because they didn't include the Google Experience Launcher that debuted on the Nexus 5. I would direct you here for some perspective: http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/can-we-all-just-shut-up-about-the-google-experience-launcher/
Also, people, translucent status bars are available on EVERY NEXUS DEVICE EXCEPT THE NEXUS 10 (due to graphics driver issues). The thing is, the app has to specifically request the translucent bar. The reason the translucent bars don't show up on the home screens is because the other Nexus devices don't include the Google Experience Launcher. The GEL requests translucent bars. The legacy launcher does not. If you want translucent status bars on the home screen, sideload the Google Experience Launcher. Done.
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Nova launcher and action launcher beta have translucent ness... If you're looking for some see through goodness
Or side load GEL. It's what I'm running on my nexus 7...

lucaurso said:
I'm not happy with that update for other reasons: No sms support (stock) and my vpn stopped working (known bug). I'm reflashing 4.3.1 right now.
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I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.

laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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laur3n.newm4n said:
I can't comment on the VPN issues, but why is no SMS support on the NEXUS 7 TABLET a reason to dislike the update? It's a tablet. You have a data plan on it, not a talk and text plan. No tablets have SMS support out of the box. There are mods, etc. that you can use to get SMS support.
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we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)

oldblue910 said:
Amen. This is the product of the entitlement people feel toward this stuff. Ugh.
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I agree, people complain way to freaking much! First world problems here. I love the update...I've been able to EASILY get every new feature from nexus 5 kit-kat on my new nexus 7 as well. Made the nexus 7 2ndgen that much faster

lucaurso said:
we are talking about the UPDATE.
4.3 -> SMS
4.4 -> NO SMS
That's the point. I lost something after the update.
When my phone battery dies I often use normal sms from the tablet (I've a girlfriend that doesn't have an internet plan because she studies in a foreign country)
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Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?

Yup this update sucks.
- It's faster
- More battery life
- Less services running in the background
Yup horrible on this end.
As for SMS, isn't that integrated into hangouts now? Can tell as just got iPhone for work ?
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The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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wtf are you taling abbout?
wallpappers?
i dont want wallpappers
i want a fast system, stable system and everthing
with 4.4 hv more battery life, using art the system is mutch faster

The S3 Kid said:
Who else thinks this is the worst update ever?
Absolutely nothing changed, didn't even get any new wallpapers. Wtf Google?
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I don't know about worst, but I wish I hadn't updated. Battery is not a big issue with me as I mainly use it at home where I can keep it charged. The printing option is nice but not something that I can't live without. I haven't noticed any increased speed. I am stock so my issues apply to non power users who just want a first rate tablet without having to mod it, which it was before the update:
1. Browsers doesn't automatically fit text to screen like 4.3 did. I now have to double tap.
2. There is a slight stick/lag in browser when scrolling. Before it was smooth as butter.
3. To prevent major lag/freeze, I've had to cut off location services.
4. Touchscreen is sometimes non responsive, particularly the app drawer button. I use Apex (to hide non used apps) but it doesn't seem to be Apex as it also happens with the stock launcher. The only way to get it working again is by clearing default.
5. Not major but I liked the blue status bar icons in 4.3 better than the white.
6. I liked the 4.3 email app better.
7. Loss of flash. I know flash is obsolete, but there are still many websites that still use it and I liked the option of using my preferred video player as opposed to being forced to HTML5.

laur3n.newm4n said:
Did SMS support come stock, standard, out of box with 4.3, or did you have to add support yourself?
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I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...

Matrix_19 said:
Well, except for the loss of the flash plug-in.
I love this update
+ 25% battery life: my previous 7. 5 hours average is now 9-10.
-Another change is the ability to get the translucent bars (with Nova launcher beta)
- I had 2-3 random reboot per week (now it happened only once in the last 3 weeks)
- touchscreen improvement : no more sticky and ghost touch (even if the multi touch issue is still there)
You can argue that it's more bugs fixes and optimization than a big upgrade, it's true. But it's a big improvement for this tablet according to me.
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I had the opposite effect, sitting "idle" for 4 hours the battery is drained down to %20, google services was @ 74%, re-booting didn't solve it. Sitting idle with 4.3 it last 5 full days; lastly I really, really liked the way the Staus icon would be blue for secured network, and white for unsecured network, showed up/down too and would turn grayish when your connected but not repsonding....and the blue stood out just enough to catch your eye so that you could tell at a glance what is going on. I dumped KitCrap and went back to 4.3
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I somewhat doubt it. My N7 LTE came with 4.3 and the "reduced" SMS function. It can receive SMS, same as in 4.4, but i had to install a SMS app to send them. Apart from testing i never used it to send SMS. It's a bloody tablet...
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What makes it a bloody tablet? I never had that issue with mine; 4.3 runs like a champ.

Lines on note camera? Is it just a faulty device?

Not sure if new threads needed couldn't find a post to on it. Anyways my camera on the rear seems fine in daylight buy when the light drops I get loads of lines flickering. These show in picture below (on the roof top and bottom of windows right across the screen) . This is brand new phone (3 days old)
Should I take it back?
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Dont ...... take it back yet. The next device u will get most likely will have the same issue.
This particularity happens when the device is connected to a wifi network. Try again while disconnected from a wifi network.
I also have this problem and changed the device the same day i got it. Same issue tough.

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Not sure if new threads needed couldn't find a post to on it. Anyways my camera on the rear seems fine in daylight buy when the light drops I get loads of lines flickering. These show in picture below (on the roof top and bottom of windows right across the screen) . This is brand new phone (3 days old)
Should I take it back?
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i got those once too. I was in my house and now that i think of it i was connected to wifi. Is it possible that they overlooked such a huge bug?

I have the same issues yes.. I think this is a big manufacturer bug when you are connected on WIFI.. not cool samsung, hope you can fix it with a software update but I think its hardware related..

I read this too late. I took the device back today and I'm now on my second note. I have literally just got in the door and connected to my wifi. Haven't tested it on wifi yet but there was no lines in town in dimmed light.
Another reason I took it back was because I kept having unresponsive power and home key buttons.
This was temperamental but still an issue.
Just did the 2 updates from Samsung hopefully this one will be alright
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Just had a look while connected to wifi.. seems fine now.
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I had the same issue with my ex note 3. I guess all of them are same. I was almost killing shop assistant while trying to get new one. You will see the same lines when you are reacording.

Solution
I added a simple tasker rule to disable wifi and mobile data while the camera app is running. I also mutes the dial tone volume to get rid of shutter sounds...
This phone needs some patching until rooting becomes possible without loosing warranty.
I am so pissed at Samsung. Their hardware team created perfection only to be ruined by the monkeys who make their software

vgergo said:
I added a simple tasker rule to disable wifi and mobile data while the camera app is running. I also mutes the dial tone volume to get rid of shutter sounds...
This phone needs some patching until rooting becomes possible without loosing warranty.
I am so pissed at Samsung. Their hardware team created perfection only to be ruined by the monkeys who make their software
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I couldn't agree with you more.. Very disappointing that I spend a lot of money on a device i believe to be probably the best on the market for it to be ruined by something as simple as taking pictures.
But. . Touch wood.. This one hasn't produced the same lines... It did however lock up one on the day i got it requiring battery pull.

@JAMIE1000UK what's your new phone's software version? Mine's still MJ1 and I'm guarding it like gold, because with this I still have some chance of rooting, when I gather up the courage...

I'm running mj7 too. I'm pretty much the same. . Holding back on root.
Having said that. When I took out the phone I got phones4u care with it.
Meaning I get a direct replacement no quarrels within 21 days of purchase so shouldn't be a problem.
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This is becoming a serious and annoying problem. Does anyone have a fix??? I hope it's not a harware issue...

Riqz said:
This is becoming a serious and annoying problem. Does anyone have a fix??? I hope it's not a harware issue...
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People are reporting that it only happens when using the camera when using wifi.
I took the device back as I use my camera every day. The bloke in the shop knew exactly what I was talking about before I'd even shown him the images.
Must be something in the configuration. Our maybe just the camera module.
No idea. Id take it back on Warrenty.
My new replacement is Absolutely fine.
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vgergo said:
I added a simple tasker rule to disable wifi and mobile data while the camera app is running. I also mutes the dial tone volume to get rid of shutter sounds...
This phone needs some patching until rooting becomes possible without loosing warranty.
I am so pissed at Samsung. Their hardware team created perfection only to be ruined by the monkeys who make their software
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There's a setting to disable the camera shutter sound, FYI

hfuizo said:
There's a setting to disable the camera shutter sound, FYI
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no there isn't in many regional versions, such as the European Now that I am rooted, i could probably switch to a different region, but it would cause a factory reset, which I don't have time for currently
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vgergo said:
no there isn't in many regional versions, such as the European Now that I am rooted, i could probably switch to a different region, but it would cause a factory reset, which I don't have time for currently
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Germany dbt
No sound at all (silent mode of phone)
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
SM-N9005 DBT-DMJ7 0x0
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i have that lines to, and i dont really care about it
its not worse as my old htc one :

I have these lines on my device. I haven't rooted yet as my device came with MJ6 firmware.
I read that the problem goes away on MK2 firmware:
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Downloaded this tonight, haven't had the change to comment on battery life but one thing it does seem to have fixed is the issue I was having wit the camera in low light, the interference with wifi on seems to have disappeared now...no horizontal lines on screen
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48585178&postcount=18
Can anyone else confirm this?

Mine happened on the original device I had after I'd fully updated it.
I'm on same firmware on the new device and I've never had the problem. Baring in mind that the phones arrived from same store on the same firmware probably from the same batch that they had delivered. .
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LRX21R Improvements

I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.

reijndert said:
I managed to install LRX21R
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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i disable chrome and use chrome beta on all my devices. doesn't seem to get very warm for me

Is battery life better with Chrome Beta?

I tried to side load the ota and it errors at package.zip. copied it over to twrp and when I try to flash it it says it's meant for a flounder while I have a volantis device. I unlocked the boot loader, used CFroot, and flashed twrp after using the factory images for the previous release.

IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.

ky3bmu4 said:
IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:

Ramrod421 said:
Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:
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Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.

ky3bmu4 said:
Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-n1-249-android-tablet-comes-lollipop-out-box

ky3bmu4 said:
IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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I see no wake locs.
While screen off, it goes to deepsleep.
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reijndert said:
I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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I got R loaded up and re-reooted. I just opened up 8 tabs in chrome and clicked on links in all of them. The N9 is not as hot as it use to be. I'm still going to play around with it and monitor, but so far so good over here.

Just got a 17MB update from Q to R. I'm getting a lot of Wi-Fi dropouts.

accordex said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-n1-249-android-tablet-comes-lollipop-out-box
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Interesting device but depends how the atom will work, screen, battery, etc
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Migamix said:
I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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Yeah I'm aware of such software and using it on my 1+1. However I wanted to at least try to use my Nexus 9 as "normal user" would do for the first time. Browsing still drains ridiculous amount of battery however I confirm that it is now much better on R build. And heating is much less.
Ps never owned a pager

any improvement on screen flicking?
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I got tired of waiting for Google to issue a working OTA for those of us stuck on LRX21L so I flashed the LRX21R factory image. I'm very happy with it and am glad I took plunge. Noticeable improvements on smoothness. Device still gets hots at times but its improved IMO.
FYI.. I tried following googles instruction for flashing the image. It didn't work.. It crapped out on the SYSTEM.IMG.
Manually flashing each of the IMG files went fine though and all is now working great.
Lastly,
I'd like to point out the the device restore feature worked much better than I had hoped. It even managed to keep app data settings on a couple of apps (that don't have sign in accounts).

Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?

borchgrevink said:
Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?
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Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.

prdog1 said:
Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.
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Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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Did. It works with black screen, lockscreen, homescreen, within apps, everywhere. You have it turned on in GNow settings?

Got the R update today. Seems good so far. :good:

[Q] Any launch day Note 3's running Lollipop? Issues?

Looking to update, wondering if there have been any issues with launch day notes like there were with the kitkat upgrade. I need Lollipop for Android Auto

I have a day one and was on 4.3 MJE and I went to 5.0 with root and it work great so glad I did it is so much faster like a new phone you won't be disappointed
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Awesome to hear, any loss of signal? Can you tell me what you did to upgrade?
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Signal is just as good as JB if not better for me. And to update I just odin stock 4.4.2 NC4 from sammobile then re root and update safestrap to 3.75. And if you need anymore help all the videos you need are on this page https://www.youtube.com/user/SurgRisesUrg?app=desktop
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I have 2 day one note 3's. One was on JB rooted, mine on NC4 safestrapped. My signal was pretty bad, but my wife's was fine on JB. updated both to jasmine stock 5.0.1 rooted and her signal is just as good as it ever was, but mine improved IMMENSELY after the update. I have better signal, and 3g/4G handout is much smoother.

Awesome guys, thanks for the info. Looks like I need to upgrade...
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success
Upgraded just fine, all is good so far. Thanks for the input guys!

I found 1 issue. May just be me since I use the VZW Note 3 on T-Mobile. When I'm talking to an automated system and it wants me to press a button, it will not recognize it if my speaker phone is on. If speaker phone is off, it works fine.

No direct access to microSD under Lollypop
Still no access to apps and games, no way to move photos and music onto microSD without connecting to PC.

Launch day Note 3 here. Upgraded from NK1 then did a factory reset. No obvious issues until the first week in. Phone is noticeably snappier.
1. Samsung keyboard occasionally force closes. Once a week roughly, and I restart my phone every 48 hours.
2. Google play services random force closes-rare.
3. This has only happened once, but YouTube displayed all green while the audio was normal. Both in landscape and portrait mode. During this time, Netflix wouldn't play anything. Samsung Video player would crash as would VLC. A reboot fixed this..
4. The phone seems to switch to 3g at around -110DB now instead of -120. Cool story! This means instead of 1 bar of LTE at work I get 3g. Great. I get a weak signal outside my office building anyway, so no surprise but..
I ran Lollipop for a few weeks then went back to 4.4.4 because of these bugs...and the HIDEOUS orange in the messages app. Yes, I know I could've used another SMS app. I'll go back to Lollipop if/when they straighten this out in the next build (which the note 3 may very well not see for months)

Good Lock pushed to phone

So yesterday the Good Lock app randomly auto pushed to my phone from the Galaxy app store.
Has anyone else had this happen?
It also replaced the system ui. I was able to open the app and uninstall it, but I get a notification about twice a day saying I have an app to update. Every time the notification is for Good Lock.
Is Samsung forcing it on its users now?
Also is anyone using it ? Does it still negatively effect the battery? Does it remove the theme sort from the phone as well?
Thanks!

Happened to me too. I also uninstalled it, couldn't achieve a look that I like. You can disable the notification from the Galaxy Apps settings menu
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I like it, it's cool imo. The multitask screen looks better.

Hmmm...
At first, I was angry it auto updated/Installed. It.changed everything I was used to. I HATED it!
Then I played around with it a bit, and I can now see some useful features in it. Mostly the lockscreen widgets and the Routines. I'm not a fan of the notification shortcuts though.
Im going to give it a few days to sink in. If I don't miss the old layouts, then I'll keep it.
Just REALLY wish theyd update the autocorrect though. I had to retype many words in this message!
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Still seems strange to just push it on users have not heard them doing that on any other devices so far. Makes me wonder if it will be the stock setup on Android 7.1 for Samsung.

ShrekOpher said:
Still seems strange to just push it on users have not heard them doing that on any other devices so far. Makes me wonder if it will be the stock setup on Android 7.1 for Samsung.
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I think I saw on Sammobile that the Nougat ROM being tested for the S7 has it. I'll see if I can find it.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2016/09/22...y-s7-to-bring-grace-ux-and-improved-features/

I've used good lock mostly on my s6 and a bit while I used the s7edge as a loaner. I actually think I prefer the grace ux on the note to good lock these days but good lock has a lot of features and is always adding user requested features.
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I just checked out the reviews for good lock this isnt an isolated incident. People are really mad, complain their phone now has "girly colors" and threatening to go back to iOS if they don't add the ability to change colors (which you've always been able to do)
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Yeah I tried good lock and it was okay but I couldn't stand the hideous colors in notifications, and it just seemed way too busy. I only used it because I missed KitKat style lock screen music album art, but I found out Samsung music still has an acceptable form of it and I'm satisfied with it.

carelockh said:
Yeah I tried good lock and it was okay but I couldn't stand the hideous colors in notifications, and it just seemed way too busy. I only used it because I missed KitKat style lock screen music album art, but I found out Samsung music still has an acceptable form of it and I'm satisfied with it.
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You can change the colors.

naplesbill said:
You can change the colors.
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It's not easily noticeable though. There isnt a very noticeable "colors" section.
I think that's confusing people.
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Took me awhile to figure out how to change colors, buried in the routines menu. And because I use a them already, was even more fun trying to get them to match. I did try it for a few days, but went back to the regular lock screens. Also didn't seem to work real well with AoD.
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been using on my 2 phones for months; i prefer the stock Android UI look as well as the ability to "keep" some of my notifications so i can follow up later. the latest version allows you to further customize the colors (not just dragging the polygons from left to right or vice-versa). takes (me a) little effort to get it like i want it, but i can then backup and restore when necessary. --- i'm a keep it simple/basic user so the less stuff, the better (for me).
also, @nuclearrage, what issues were you having with AoD? GoodLock and AoD are working fine on my devices.