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So quick question XDA. I noticed on my HD2 running FroyoStone 3.2 the pixel quality is bad...I wouldn't even say "pixel" cause its just the textures on some things. I took a screenshot of my phone to show you what im talking about but it showed up better quality then it actually is... Confusing right? Well take a look.
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The shaded black part behind "Speak now" is actually good quality when i took a screen shot...even though thats not what I see?
This picture was taking with my camera
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This is what I see, Notice how the shading or the black part behind where it says "Speak now" is really bad quality.
Thats not the only thing that has bad quality. When I receive picture messages all the pictures are really bad quality. Also the pictures set for each one my contacts are bad quality. Is this something I can fix? Please and thank you.
If you really see what we can see on the pictures, then a a fix is available.
You only have to wear your glasses
The pictures are really bad. Maybe you should take a look in the manual of the camera and search for "focus" or "autofocus"
Crusoe86 said:
If you really see what we can see on the pictures, then a a fix is available.
You only have to wear your glasses
The pictures are really bad. Maybe you should take a look in the manual of the camera and search for "focus" or "autofocus"
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No no no. You don't understand lol.
Look
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Compare the two images. The first one is what i see on my phone when i use it. The second picture is what it should look like.
Also I took the first picture with my moms phone, i sent it to my HD2 without changing the file size. When I received it on my phone it was sent as a 4 KB file and which is a really small size. It does this to EVERY picture I receive. Yet its only when im running android (FroyoStone 3.2)
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This is the actual pic that I took with my moms phone and sent it to my phone. This is 195.5 KB
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Its only 4 KB.
I think I worked out what you're saying OP. I just checked mine and it's exactly the same. It's probably due to the 65k colour screen as opposed to 16million colour screens most phones have these days. It's nothing to worry about.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
boss.king said:
I think I worked out what you're saying OP. I just checked mine and it's exactly the same. It's probably due to the 65k colour screen as opposed to 16million colour screens most phones have these days. It's nothing to worry about.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Okay well is there a way to fix the file size, cause every picture i receive is really small and blurry.
boss.king said:
I think I worked out what you're saying OP. I just checked mine and it's exactly the same. It's probably due to the 65k colour screen as opposed to 16million colour screens most phones have these days. It's nothing to worry about.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's what we think. I don't think anybody has been able to prove/disprove that the HD2's screen is only capable of 65k colors; it could just be a WM limitation, and the devs have yet to 'unlock' the 16mil colors using Android. (Of course, I could be wrong, but like I said there's no proof.)
The problem is the color gradient -- it's easy to detect the low quality of the images due to the gray gradient.
Concerning the MMS sizing, I think I encountered a fix for that, but I haven't tried it. I can't help you look for it now because the sub-forum search is down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
to fix your mms issue... i get pictures that are 600kb
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
to fix your mms issue... i get pictures that are 600kb
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Okay well i only get low quality pictures when im using andriod, if im just running winmo its fine. So do I need to get this rom? I've never changed roms before, i don't even know how to do it.
Screen is a bit too bright for me even on the lowest settting. I remember reading about an app that let's us knock the brightness below the minimum level, ideal for night reading by all accounts.
Can anyone tell me what this app is called? Does it need root?
Thanks.
No root necessary.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/screen-filter/com.haxor
Thanks I will give that a go ... not to keen on this bit though :
"Known issues: - Gingerbread: Filter prevents interaction with Gmail. "
Is this the only one available so far?
It's just buggy. It will "turn off" by itself, and yes mostly when you switch to Gmail. Gets the job done though.
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Thanks i'll try it I'd that's the extent of the issue.
Edit: works brilliantly for occasional use bit I'd like something that can be applied permanently and system wide if possible. Don't know if anything exists though... yet?
Nothing else exists, sorry.
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Nothing else exists, sorry.
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OK thanks. Out of interest, am I the only one that finds the nexus s screen just too bright?
I'm sure an app will come along that caters for this if it's seen to be a common observation (though I'm not sure it is).
Na, quite a few people find the screen very bright.. right now Screen Filter is your only option.
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Na, quite a few people find the screen very bright.. right now Screen Filter is your only option.
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Hmmm, let's hope that changes soon! Thanks.
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OK thanks. Out of interest, am I the only one that finds the nexus s screen just too bright?
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i don't have this issue. i keep mine on about 40%
Once the devs start doing custom kernels, we'll get one that can go dimmer. Supercurio, the VooDoo lag-fix guy for the i9000 and other Galaxy S versions is big on color correction and gamma and all of that. One of his early fixes including making it less bright on minimum. He's looking to get a Nexus S, once he does we'll see lots of good stuff.
Meanwhile, even without one, he's chugging out lots of stuff for the NS community. Big fan of his work.
i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.
Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors
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Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.
not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently
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thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?
shamarama said:
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.
They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
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lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up
Why do I see so less threads about the color banding issue.. ? Why don't people worry that much about this? Will this get fixed because it's VERY VERY annoying. I payed €500 for a phone that is not even running on a 24bit and I'm alrdy on my 2nd SGSII ... Thinking of waiting for the Nexus Prime ...
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Why do I see so less threads about the color banding issue.. ? Why don't people worry that much about this? Will this get fixed because it's VERY VERY annoying. I payed €500 for a phone that is not even running on a 24bit and I'm alrdy on my 2nd SGSII ... Thinking of waiting for the Nexus Prime ...
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I think you answered your own question. That and the low post count in the original thread.
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Now that my battery life is incredibly awesome thanks to kg2/3, I really don't have anything to complain about.
The positives of this phone greatly out weigh the negatives which is only one thing I can think of.. Some of my wallpapers look ugly because of the banding.
I think I can live with that.
Its a minor issue and only noticed with some loading screens like angrgbirds and xda app and certain photos.
I just love how people turn a decent post into a threat like the nexus prime.
L a little research would have told you the nexus s had same issue and later fixed.
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If you don't look for banding or yellow tint, you'll never notice them. Recommend for new users to not look for these issues
Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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Idan73 said:
Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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The haters thread is over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
It's on page 18 which should tell you something.
What "banding" issue? Mine is fine.... I guess if I "look" for issues I will find them. Then again the positives far outweigh the negatives. A little gradient here and there is no matter. Some people are their own worst nightmare with their "anality" Probably have their devices wrapped in armor lest a little nick or scratch appear during normal use .......How do they sleep at night?
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The haters thread is over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
It's on page 18 which should tell you something.
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Lol I'm not a hater. I love everyone and everything except for things I dislike.
Notice I am not the one threatening to leave... until I do for something else.
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I really want to know where the majority of your banding you see.
Besides xda loading screen and angry birds I don't see it often enough to cry about. I've taken 500+ pictures and have viewed 100s of webpages and I don't see it being a major issue.
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Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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Lol I'm not a hater. I love everyone and everything except for things I dislike.
Notice I am not the one threatening to leave... until I do for something else.
Also note I never mentioned the price I paid cause I think it's just childish. But to say don't cause waves.... pretend its fine... fake it till you make it... the hell....
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Secret wallpaper both versions, nexus s wallpaper, most penguin games, ubuntu wallpaper, pretty much anything that uses gradient.
If you're primarily browsing of course you wont see it cause its white page with black letter's.
And come on original sgs does not have this issue, nexus s had it but it was fixed. What is wrong in expecting it to be fixed on this phone or not have it in the first place.
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Time to return this poor baby ..
Color banding? Don't have it.
Colors are incredible on my SGS2 and shades flow very smoothly. Best screen I've ever had.
yeah I've used a number of roms on my phone and haven't noticed any banding... I'm wondering if this is a hardware specific thing?
The default background image on the Go Launcher exhibits significant banding. The issue goes away when using CM7, currently this isn't a solution as CM7 is severely functionality-impaired at the moment.
A fix would be appreciated, it's a minor irritation though. Seems a bit silly to have such a powerful device with such a great screen and then run it at a lower bit-depth.
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Color banding? Don't have it.
Colors are incredible on my SGS2 and shades flow very smoothly. Best screen I've ever had.
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Go install Nenamark from the market and run the benchmark. You will see banding in the evening sky scene as the benchmark runs.
I don't think people are disputing the problem's there. The question was "are you OK with it?"
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I don't think people are disputing the problem's there. The question was "are you OK with it?"
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Yeah, because the problem IS there, anyone saying "I don't have it" or "it doesn't exists" is either ignorant or lying, because it's a FACT the problem(or whatever you want to call it) exists. The purpose of this topic is rather to ask to people how they live with it/what they think of it.
My 2 cents is that it's quite annoying. Now I see it, I notice it everywhere, games, apps, wallpapers. We'll see how the Tegra-version of the Galaxy S2 with SLCD screen will manage color gradients - if banding still occurs, we can be quite sure it's software-related, if not, there's more chance for it to be hardware-related(though not sure).
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Yeah, because the problem IS there, anyone saying "I don't have it" or "it doesn't exists" is either ignorant or lying, because it's a FACT the problem(or whatever you want to call it) exists. The purpose of this topic is rather to ask to people how they live with it/what they think of it.
My 2 cents is that it's quite annoying. Now I see it, I notice it everywhere, games, apps, wallpapers. We'll see how the Tegra-version of the Galaxy S2 with SLCD screen will manage color gradients - if banding still occurs, we can be quite sure it's software-related, if not, there's more chance for it to be hardware-related(though not sure).
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There's already a long thread on it that dropped to page 18. Is there really a reason to create another thread on it when it's obvious this bothers some people more than others?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
(After April update)
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
(After April update)
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It's possible but I didn't see anything about the display on the bulletin
Reuben_skelz92 said:
It's possible but I didn't see anything about the display on the bulletin
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Me neither, but i thought i would share what i felt changed according to my eyes :laugh:
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Me neither, but i thought i would share what i felt changed according to my eyes :laugh:
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Lol be interesting to see when I update. It is possible they could have tweaked it a little though
Hmm, looks exactly the same to me.
On what color profile are you on?
I think my colors are a bit more punchy and saturated now as well, just done update.
Will check if my GF will see any difference as hers phone is updating now...
When I powered up my brain said, display seems different, but after usage I can't tell anymore.
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I think my colours are a bit more punchy and saturated now as well. Just done the update.
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I think you are right. I've just checked the Electric Sheep wallpaper - it stopped looking like old, worn out, colourless rug.
Colours are the same, no mention of any colour improvements in the changelog anyways.
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Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
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That's possible, there were about 59 bug fixes from what I read.....One thing for sure that was fixed is the FPS....much better :good:
I can guarantee i can see no improvement whatsoever i am using saturated mode from day 1
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I notice zero difference in my case.
Nope screen is still mediocre
I noticed that black crush was slightly better after the March update. Watching the HDR sheep video the dark parts weren't completely black. Also, that black box test I compared what boxes I was able to see compared to others and I was able to see the darker boxes
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I noticed that black crush was slightly better after the March update. Watching the HDR sheep video the dark parts weren't completely black. Also, that black box test I compared what boxes I was able to see compared to others and I was able to see the darker boxes
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Maybe they tweaked the gamma . We all know that's the problem
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That's possible, there were about 59 bug fixes from what I read.....One thing for sure that was fixed is the FPS....much better :good:
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how can you say that the fps was improved??
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how can you say that the fps was improved??
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Because before the update the FPS was super laggy, after the update it seems much improved and responsive
I'm on natural color scheme and what I noticed was the black background I use for wallpaper seems, well, blacker. It might not be a color improvement but rather a contrast one...
I agree. I noticed sharper images too
I feel like things look better too.. unfortunately my battery life is awful
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