.....connected to my laptop all the apps I have located on my ext SD card disappear which I understand but when my Atrix is unplugged the apps I have stored don't reappear on my home screens.
They have to be manually put back on.
Does anyone know why this is.....it's doing my head in.
I'm running the Alien 4 rom with Faux123 kernel if that matters.
Cheers
Paul
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I don't understand why people move apps to sd on a phone that doesn't need it.
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For the same reason you cant access anything else on the SD card when in storage mode, the OS has to unmount it while the computer has access, thus you cant use anything on it including apps, this is normal.
To the first reply, cause I want to and to the second, read my question again. I said I know why they disappear when connected but don't know why they don't return when the device is unplugged.
Never had the problem on either of my 2 desires and wondered if it was Atrix or maybe ROM specific.
Don't post unless you can help. Thanks.
Ah i missed that part :-(..... In that case no idea never tried it as I have 1.2GB free of app storage.
Do they appear in the apps list?
Tried restarting the phone?
Tried a media scan (not sure if it will pick up apps)
Sounds like your ROM is not scanning the sdcard after remounting it.
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No probs Nap and thanks Dennis, tried it mate but no joy.
Looks like I'll just use internal storage for ease from now as it gets boring adding them all back after a while.
Thanks anyway tho
you could always buy the dual mount SD program, best .99c I have spent so far. It allows you to mount and still access the sd on the phone. it is very helpful for me.
I had an issue with my ringtones that are located on storage being jacked up during mounts. the issue would occur when I had a notification, call, text, anything that made a noise that used a custom tone while mounted to a PC. After unmount the notification would either revert to default or choose a completely random tone.
I downloaded dualmount a few months back and that issue was resolved. I havent had to reset my notifications except when I flashed to CM, and I can live with that
This is my first phone that uses MTP. My last phone had an SD Card, and used USB Mass Storage, so I'm not sure if this is normal behavior for MTP.
I plug the phone in, and the only way the computer recognizes it as a storage device is to have USB Debugging off, and the phone set to "Connected as a Media Device (MTP)". If I set it to connect as a camera, it only sees the DCIM and pictures folder, and it only works if USB Debugging is turned ON. So that's the first weird thing.
All I really have installed driver-wise is the stock android drivers that are included in the SDK, installed using the device manager method. I am rooted stock, running Franco.Kernel.
I am connecting to the computer using the cable that came with the phone, although I have tried 4 other cables and they all return the same result.
What happens is, I plug in the phone, and it pops up in My Computer as "Nexus 4, Portable Media Player". So I click on that, then click on Internal Storage, the only available option. It takes about 5 seconds to load up all the files.
I am trying to back up all the files on my External Storage before I flash a ROM. I know it's not necessary, but better safe then sorry. So I highlight all the files, and drag them into a directory on my computer. And a dialogue pops up that says "Estimating time required to transfer files" or something like that. And it just sits there. I let it sit for about 15 minutes, and after it did nothing for that time, I hit cancel. To get it to fully cancel, however, I had to disconnect the phone and reconnect it.
So now I'm trying to do everything 1 by 1. Transfer 1 folder at a time. The smaller folders work fine, although they're still incredibly slow. Over a minute for a folder with 2 Megabytes of data in it? That can't be right. But then I hit the bigger folders, such as the "Android Folder" where all the big games are stored. So I drag that folder into the directory on my computer, and it spends about 25-30 minutes "Estimating time required to transfer files". Then it starts the transfer. It says it will be about 2-3 hours. There's around 3 GB of data in the folder, according to right clicking on it and clicking properties, so I guess that's a semi-reasonable amount of time, but still pretty slow compared to my old phone. But then, after about 20 minutes of copying data, it just stops. It looks like it has finished, but upon going through the directory on my computer, and comparing it to the one on the phone, it has only transferred about half of the files. So I try again, repeating the above process. And the same exact thing happens. It always stops at ~1 GB out of the 2.7 it should be copying over.
What gives? This is literally the most frustrating thing ever right now. I just want to flash PA so badly but I can't get my stuff to copy over!
Please help! Thanks so much!
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
CMNein said:
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
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That's so bad if that's normal. Why Google switched to MTP is beyond me. Another weird issue is sometimes it can take forever for the filesystem to update on my computer. I can put an apk file that I downloaded to my phone on the root of the external storage. Then, when I plug it in to my computer to transfer it off, it won't be there. I reboot, it still isn't there. After searching and searching, I went back, unplugged the phone, plugged it back in for the 20th time, and it randomly shows up. So frustrating.
Anyway... what's the command for adb pulling that? I know the external storage is called something like /emulated/0 or something. So would it be adb pull /emulated/0 C:\Users\blahblahblah?
Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
We didn't do this because we wanted to use ext3 (although that is a side benefit.) We did it because we wanted to be able to merge the "public shared storage" (i.e. for music and photos) with the internal private app storage.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
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is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
zephiK said:
Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
Let's not turn this into an argument over why mtp sucks. I'd just really like to know how to fix my problem.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
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that's all conspiracy about taking off MTP or SDCARDS in favor of their cloud service but i do agree with you, the 8GB/16GB combo was kind of silly, they should of done 16GB/32GB to the very least, as a person who lives in NYC and takes the subway. I won't always have service because underground we don't get any (we're starting too.. but it depends on which stations you're at) so the cloud isn't a viable option for me and it shouldn't be for most people anyway because of the data caps that carriers impose on them.
16GB is enough for me, but still would of been nice for a 32GB version. I hoped google learned from 8GB/16GB format for the N7 but guess not. should of been 16GB/32GB for N4 and I'd be pretty upset if they discontinued 8GB in favor for a 16GB/32GB as i paid for a 32GB at ~$349.
of course, google isnt telling everybody to get a nexus device. there are other alternatives out there such as galaxy s, note, etc. I personally like nexus devices for community support when it comes to custom roms and kernels.
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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KyraOfFire said:
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
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Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
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Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
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Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
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OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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adb pull /sdcard/ *should* work, although I haven't done it on the N4 yet so can't confirm if the /0/ throws a wrench in the works. It will still likely be painfully slow, but it won't just stop altogether for no reason.
I'm also a big fan of adb backup/restore, saves a lot of trouble when restoring your junk, including the sdcard. To back up your apps and the sdcard it would be:
Code:
adb backup -all -nosystem -shared -apk
Code:
adb restore backup.ab
A restore of this is all, or nothing, it will restore your apps, some settings, and the sdcard after you've flashed.
I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
KyraOfFire said:
Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
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It's emulated because in Android 4.2.X it supports multi user on tablets.
It has USB Mass Storage for other phones because that's the way the manufacturer developed the device. It supports USB Mass Storage. Phones/tablets by Google use MTP.
Google for the topic of discussion on Galaxy Nexus, I don't have the time to find it on Google. But I'm sure with some searching with google somewhere between the lines "USB mass storage on galaxy nexus possible?" would lead you into the right direction. Best thing I can say is to just believe me because if it was possible, I'm sure that it would of been done on the Galaxy Nexus already which is a one-year old device.
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I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
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A 2.8 GB backup took me ~40 minutes IIRC.
Edit: and if you want to get fancy with the backups, there are other options as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
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A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
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Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
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Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
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It's actually quite fast to be honest. Phone connected to WiFi of course and being on the same network (192.) aligned with FlashFXP as the FTP client on desktop. http://www.flashfxp.com/
MTP works with debugging on for me...
I've just tested my mtp speed, copied 1.5gigabyte in 2.5 minutes... theres something wrong with your mtp.
btw if your mtp driver won't install in debugging mode you can edit the wpdmtp.inf file in windows/inf.. i had to
WTF is this BS forced MTP.
I have to plug/unplug the phone like 100 times to actually get things working, this mtp sucks so bad.
Only upside is to be able to use adb and mtp together so that you can use the stuff you copy onto the phone right away.
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Are there any tricks or tipps on how to use mtp? Do i just need to wait if things get "stuck" again? Like if I want to copy over files sometimes it takes ages before it even starts. OR when I rename files etc, the update takes ages...
--- or this sh!t is not noticed at all.. even unlocked and everything it disappears from the drives list over and over..........
I want my usb storage mode back so badly... arggggghhhhhh
Switch MTP mode off?
Try *#0808#
or *#7284# //I don't think this one works on S4 and Note3
starting from yesterday my note 3 stopped to be recognized from pc, it always fails in installing the mtp driver for the pc,
ive tried alot of ways to solve(unistalling drivers, regedit, etc..), but with no luck
is it possible that i hibernated or freezed something, which leads to the driver installation failure
have been thinking of upgrading my S2 for the 20th time now, but every, single, time when I explore my S2 and compare with the newer kitkat phones,
this is the biggest mistake Google has ever done to Android... I just, can't, and won't ever, accept this stupid change.
Exploring DCIM via USB Storage on Windows:
http://i.imgur.com/4XIGdwF.jpg
(thumbnails blurred for privacy reasons)
Exploring DCIM via MTP on Windows:
http://i.imgur.com/qfNxQev.jpg
Other most annoying differences:
In USB mode, I could play the videos I recorded immediately, and play any mp3's immediately.
In MTP mode, not only can I not see a thumbnail preview in Explorer, double clicking it forces Windows to copy the entire file to desktop before it can be played! (both video and mp3s)
I am hugging my legacy S2 more tightly than ever.
Mass storage mode (MSC) is removed on Android 4.3 (or 4.2.2) and later
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Hey andriod experts,
I've spent the good part of an entire day now researching data recovery and the galaxy note 3 and posting in some droid forums, but my issue is a little more complex than many seem to be able to comprehend. I also learned that there are websites setup just for the sole purpose of directing you to download and then pay for data recovery programs, none of which solve my problem --- all of which take over nearly all goolge search results when researching this issue.
FYI: Note 3 SM-N900V - Verizon
Android 4.4.2
not rooted
my phone began acting up and I did a factory reset on it, not realizing many of my photos were being stored on the internal storage as opposed to the removable SD card.
Im familiar with being able to run recovery programs on SD cards, removable storage, and even hard drives, so I figured it would not be a problem to run a program on the phone. However, when attached to a USB, my computer only recognizes the phone as a portable media device and will not assign it a drive letter.
After doing some research, I tried to enter developer mode and enabled USB debugging mode -- which some websites hinted that would solve the problem and my computer would recognize the phone as a drive, but still, no luck.
I even tried to root my phone using Kingo -- but that proved to fail after what appears to be because my OS updated to 4.2.2. on its own before I rooted and that apparently causes some issue with Kingo.- -- so it looks like I'm stuck on that path.
I then contacted Samsung, thinking I'd get help from someone who knew what they were doing, but my questions flew far above my customer service rep's head.
searching the net proves useless because it is so over saturated with spammy websites designed to get you to download and purchase recovery programs.... none of which work for the Note 3 given the fact that they need to be able to see a drive.
Does anyone have any idea of a work-around, and if there is any way I can try to recover the photos?
Thanks so much!
-James
Your media files should have remained intact which is weird.
I assume you are positive that you didn't have any of the picture backup options setup that you may have not realized? For example all mine go to Dropbox and G+ every time I hit wifi.
Being very familiar with recovery on computers but never trying this on a phone I would try and search for things like the app wifi explorer and maybe if your lucky it can see ./trash or something. I would be shocked if you could mount the phone and do a true recovery program.
I will search and try to help as well as I feel your pain .
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Your media files should have remained intact which is weird.
I assume you are positive that you didn't have any of the picture backup options setup that you may have not realized? For example all mine go to Dropbox and G+ every time I hit wifi.
Being very familiar with recovery on computers but never trying this on a phone I would try and search for things like the app wifi explorer and maybe if your lucky it can see ./trash or something. I would be shocked if you could mount the phone and do a true recovery program.
I will search and try to help as well as I feel your pain .
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Yes, the pictures in question were actually all taken and saved to internal storage because they were taken with the snapchat app as opposed to the camera app -- my camera app does indeed auto-backup to g+.
Hell, I'd even be willing to take the phone apart and rig up some fancy wiring with a card reader if I knew it would get access to the storage as a drive. -- just assumed snapchat was saving things to the SD card. -- Will try to search the phone, but from my understanding doing a factory reset essentially formats that partition of the internal storage.... no?
-J
Yeah factory reset wipes app data and keeps media data.
Poor choice on snapchat to store stuff like that. Honestly though I only know snapchat by name and have never seen it.
i may have found something for you right HERE on XDA.
hope it works
I was wondering if anyone has tried hooking up a USB-C Thumb Drive to the PH-1 yet? I am going to be traveling soon, and was interested in being able to offload some of my vacation pictures while in the field. It would be great if I could just just hook up a drive and migrate them off the phone without having to use my laptop.
Thanks!
Haven't tested it but should work as that's a core function of Android. You might need a file browser that supports OTG file transfers though. I can try this out within the next few days, but will be busy so don't hold your breath.
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Haven't tested it but should work as that's a core function of Android. You might need a file browser that supports OTG file transfers though. I can try this out within the next few days, but will be busy so don't hold your breath.
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Works fine.
Thanks for trying it out. I suspected it would likely work, but didn't want to get stuck with a thumb drive none of my other devices can use yet.
yeah works
I have a Lexar USB 3.0 and use es file explorer
ImMurtagh said:
I was wondering if anyone has tried hooking up a USB-C Thumb Drive to the PH-1 yet? I am going to be traveling soon, and was interested in being able to offload some of my vacation pictures while in the field. It would be great if I could just just hook up a drive and migrate them off the phone without having to use my laptop.
Thanks!
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Anyone know hot to eject OTG storage?
I thought the setting was in Settings > Storage [and other forums suggest that it is], but I only get a view of storage allocation on internal storage. The persistent notification telling me that I'm powering a USB device doesn't toggle.
Any ideas on how to eject? Thanks!
PS —*Using a Kingston dual drive [USB A and C], working great otherwise...after formatting to FAT. Anyone know if exFAT is supported? Seems not to be : /
It supports only FAT on my SanDisk dual drive.
I'm using a SanDisk Dual (MicroUSB) and it works when I plug it in through an adapter. I don't even have to tell it to do Mass Storage. That's one of the things I really like about this phone. It also gives me an option at in the notifications to eject or go to explorer option for file transferring. It does sometimes get hung at 100% for several minutes, but I've learned I can still take it out once it's at 100%.
One negative is that it sucks juice like mad! Like 1% every minute bad... I accidentally left my drive in while I was waiting for a file to transfer. It said it would be done in 3-4 minutes and I went to cook dinner. I came back almost an hour later and my phone was at less than 40% from a full charge!
Power Consumption
What version of the OS is installed on the Phone?
JoRocker said:
I'm using a SanDisk Dual (MicroUSB) and it works when I plug it in through an adapter. I don't even have to tell it to do Mass Storage. That's one of the things I really like about this phone. It also gives me an option at in the notifications to eject or go to explorer option for file transferring. It does sometimes get hung at 100% for several minutes, but I've learned I can still take it out once it's at 100%.
One negative is that it sucks juice like mad! Like 1% every minute bad... I accidentally left my drive in while I was waiting for a file to transfer. It said it would be done in 3-4 minutes and I went to cook dinner. I came back almost an hour later and my phone was at less than 40% from a full charge!
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Zargone said:
What version of the OS is installed on the Phone?
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Beta 3
JoRocker said:
I'm using a SanDisk Dual (MicroUSB) and it works when I plug it in through an adapter. I don't even have to tell it to do Mass Storage. That's one of the things I really like about this phone. It also gives me an option at in the notifications to eject or go to explorer option for file transferring. It does sometimes get hung at 100% for several minutes, but I've learned I can still take it out once it's at 100%.
One negative is that it sucks juice like mad! Like 1% every minute bad... I accidentally left my drive in while I was waiting for a file to transfer. It said it would be done in 3-4 minutes and I went to cook dinner. I came back almost an hour later and my phone was at less than 40% from a full charge!
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It really depends on the drive.
The phone has to power the device.