This thread will be for battery discussion related to the One X. At this point we're only speculating, but it will also be a great place to post battery test results from reviews, your own battery life results, and general discussion about improving battery life.
I started this thread because I'm interested in the One X, but assuming that with 80% the battery capacity of my OnePlus One (2,525 vs. 3,100mAh), the OnePlus X will probably have ~20% less battery performance. It will help that the One X has an AMOLED screen vs. LED, so dark pixels are not illuminated, and it's screen is smaller, thus saving some energy. Maybe we'll get 85% of the OnePlus One's battery performance
Just to start a little speculation before the reviews begin rolling in, there are two flagship devices from 2013/2014 that are somewhat comparable (~5" screen, 2,x00mAh battery, SnapDragon 80x SoC):
Google Nexus 5 w/2,300 mAh battery
Samsung Galaxy S5 w/2,800 mAh battery
HTC One M8 w/2,600 mAh battery
Just picking one review site's battery test results (it doesn't matter which one--almost none of them reflect actual user experience accurately), the S5 gets 7h 38 min, One M8 7h 12 min and the Nexus 5 4h 50 min. That's a huge range, but I think it's reasonable to expect the One X to average them since it's battery size is closer to the One NexusM8 and Nexus 5, but it has an AMOLED screen like the S5--so around 6 hrs 30min by Phone Arena's test regiment. The OnePlus One did 8hr 5min by Phone Arena's regiment, so ~80% of that would be 6hr 24min for the One X.
If my speculation is reasonable (iffy at best ), then the One X should have some pretty decent battery life for a 5" device.
Enough speculation for now. Waiting for the reviews to start coming in.
It has AMOLED display, 5" instead of 5.5" screen, a slightly underclocked version of the CPU used in OnePlus One, and when it gets Android 6.0 there are tons of battery related optimizations, I don't think there is reason to be worried...
Also with underclocking CPU and GPU with combination of undervolting will give you a great battery life. Amoled display won't illuminate dark pixels and that's also a big plus over here. With OPO i get around 8h of SOT it 2 days of moderate usage.. messaging, music and that's it mostly. OneX will be same as OPO i think. Smaller screen, new android, kernel modifyfing and you'll be able to get aroung 7-8h of SOT I'm sure
This is the same SoC Qualcomm MSM8974AB that has been used by htc with M8 and Sony in it's Xperia Z2 with 2600 and 3200 mAh battery respectively. as I'm currently suffering low battery backup with Galaxy S6, I'm bit skeptical whether to go with one X or not. If one X manage to reach minimum 4 hrs. SOT I will buy this phone as I already received the invitation.
kachrukamble said:
If one X manage to reach minimum 4 hrs. SOT I will buy this phone as I already received the invitation.
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SOT is extremely variable depending upon personal usage habits. I don't know how you could possibly find out if you would get 4 hrs with your usage habits before having the device. Maybe find somebody with an X and identical usage habits to you?
Incidentally, the Phone Arena battery test is done with the screen on, and they're getting 6-7 hrs out of similar devices.
We measure battery life by running a custom web-script, designed to replicate the power consumption of typical real-life usage. All devices that go through the test have their displays set at 200-nit brightness.
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I'm afraid it won't be enough
I live in Rome, so I'll have the chance to buy a OP X the next 11th November event but the battery is the only thing that is stopping me at the moment. I come from a ridiculous Galaxy Nexus battery life and I'd love to have a real long battery life finally. I was interested in the ZUK Z1 for this reason but I'm kind of used to the AMOLED technology and I don't want to go bigger than 5.2" for the display. Please guys post anything you know about the battery life even if iI'm afraid it will be just average and nothing special. 2500ish battery is not enough nowadays.
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I live in Rome, so I'll have the chance to buy a OP X the next 11th November event but the battery is the only thing that is stopping me at the moment. I come from a ridiculous Galaxy Nexus battery life and I'd love to have a real long battery life finally. I was interested in the ZUK Z1 for this reason but I'm kind of used to the AMOLED technology and I don't want to go bigger than 5.2" for the display. Please guys post anything you know about the battery life even if iI'm afraid it will be just average and nothing special. 2500ish battery is not enough nowadays.
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I have nexus 4 and its sot is from 3:40 to 4+h. It has 2100mah battery.
It is enough for me to last a day.
Just hope that custom roms will be available.
That will let me to adjust some settings.
Just had a conversation with the chat team, here is the conversation.
19.54.41 GMT - Client said : I am also a bit concerned abou thr battery on the oneplus x, it seems a bit small. Are there any official numbers on how long the device csn hold charge. Screen on time, etc.
19.57.04 GMT - Operator said : The device has 2,525 mAh LiPo battery. Pretty much it'll be good for one day. It is normal for smartphones that has LiPo battery. Overall, it'll just depend on the usage of the device, so to lessen the battery usage, one of the best way is to reduce the brightness of the device and to force close all apps that are running.
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I know its vague but i'm now pretty sure it'll get me through a day... Also because i'm a light user
I got this phone for almost a week and it has 4h sot of heavy usage. From 7am to 11pm. It's good but not amazing. This is enough for me at least
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By heavy usage i mean always either 4g or wi-Fi. A lot of chrome and spotify
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I got this phone for almost a week and it has 4h sot of heavy usage. From 7am to 11pm. It's good but not amazing. This is enough for me at least
By heavy usage i mean always either 4g or wi-Fi. A lot of chrome and spotify
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Omg you have facebook messenger also. Do you have facebook app also?
If you do this battery life will be amazing for me since im a minimalist.
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Omg you have facebook messenger also. Do you have facebook app also?
If you do this battery life will be amazing for me since im a minimalist.
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Nope i don't have the facebook app but i got acdisplay and fleksy which does use the battery. And yes i often use messenger, i think you can have a great time on battery with a light use of the phone
PoloB49 said:
Nope i don't have the facebook app but i got acdisplay and fleksy which does use the battery. And yes i often use messenger, i think you can have a great time on battery with a light use of the phone
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Yeah. I will wait for proper kernel then uv, uc and make gaming profile shortcuts with tasker then i will get battery and performance when i need it.
If manufactures would be smart they would make profiles available in the statusbar. Just simple battery saving, normal and performance tabs.
Also wishing that the alert slider can be customized. Just realized that it woulf be awesome if the alert slider could handle performance profile.
More than 8 hours 1080p video playback
Hi all,
the german online mag Golem.de states in his review:
- more than 8 hours continuous 1080p video playback with 1 battery charge (for comparison: ZUK Z1 made 9 hours with 4100mAh in same test)
- gets easily over 1 day usage
First day use!
Am i the only one getting such a bad battery life?? Or should i wait to test it again after a few more days??
vinay235 said:
Am i the only one getting such a bad battery life?? Or should i wait to test it again after a few more days??
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First day use and you're complaining?
Dsteppa said:
First day use and you're complaining?
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lol yea ur right..will update after a few days then..
vinay235 said:
Am i the only one getting such a bad battery life?? Or should i wait to test it again after a few more days??
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Try sleeping in a little later. Getting up before 5AM is probably what's killing your battery
interested in getting the device but would like to see the performance of the phone in real life ... battery life would also tell its capabilities
According to this test, the battery life is not bad. But I don't know this site, and i'm not sure it could be trust.
edit : I can't post link. Search for "fonearena oneplus-x-battery-life-test" and you will find it.
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Yes, according to this guy.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/galaxy-tab/44768-bettery-life-results.html
Anyone feel the same way?
its better than i expected, but i doubt its better than sammys tests
Same here it seem way better than I expected but I haven't tested the battery life thoroughly yet but indeed it is very good.
Tomorrow I will be flying back home. I'll be in the air for about 6 hours. I have 2 movies to watch, plus I'll be playing games and will listen to music. I am planning not to charge my tab until I get home. Let's see how it goes. I will update.
Being that my battery use is ~80% display, i should probably consider turning down the brightness. Still, I have been playing with it here and there throught the day (about 7 hours away from the charger now) and the battery level is still 75%
Somebody needs to find a way to mod the autobrightness to have a few options...I like the feature, but it is just a bit too dim for me.
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Being that my battery use is ~80% display, i should probably consider turning down the brightness. Still, I have been playing with it here and there throught the day (about 7 hours away from the charger now) and the battery level is still 75%
Somebody needs to find a way to mod the autobrightness to have a few options...I like the feature, but it is just a bit too dim for me.
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My tab lost 10% battery for one hour medium usage (display on, 30% brightness, reading mainly). Dose it mean I have a battery issue here?
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My tab lost 10% battery for one hour medium usage (display on, 30% brightness, reading mainly). Dose it mean I have a battery issue here?
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no. it just depends on what your doing. Wifi signal strength, Cell radio strength. the position of the moon and sun, etc.
BTW, battery life does not decrease linearly. so the numbers in that post are ridiculous.
the discharge curve will look something similar to this in most cases
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(red line, also note phones cut off the extreme ends of the scale with regards to voltage to promote cell life)
it takes a few days for the battery (more specifically the charging circuitry) to get into a 'groove' when it comes to properly charging the battery and displaying the correct percentage.
if you want to know more about the Batteries in our phones and Tablets look at RCcar and RC plane sites. they use the same batteries as phones do so pretty much everything you learn there will apply here (except our phones don't draw 20+amps! )
http://www.fmadirect.com/lipo_handbook/fma_lipo_handbook_section2.htm
Mine can easily last and day and a half, very impressed with the battery
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no. it just depends on what your doing. Wifi signal strength, Cell radio strength. the position of the moon and sun, etc.
BTW, battery life does not decrease linearly. so the numbers in that post are ridiculous.
the discharge curve will look something similar to this in most cases
(red line, also note phones cut off the extreme ends of the scale with regards to voltage to promote cell life)
it takes a few days for the battery (more specifically the charging circuitry) to get into a 'groove' when it comes to properly charging the battery and displaying the correct percentage.
if you want to know more about the Batteries in our phones and Tablets look at RCcar and RC plane sites. they use the same batteries as phones do so pretty much everything you learn there will apply here (except our phones don't draw 20+amps! )
http://www.fmadirect.com/lipo_handbook/fma_lipo_handbook_section2.htm
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Well, I understand you saying here. But 10% (90% to 80%) per hour for reading ebook only is far away from having a good battery at 4000mah. I will give it a few more days to check.
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Tomorrow I will be flying back home. I'll be in the air for about 6 hours. I have 2 movies to watch, plus I'll be playing games and will listen to music. I am planning not to charge my tab until I get home. Let's see how it goes. I will update.
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Well? How did that go?
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Well, I understand you saying here. But 10% (90% to 80%) per hour for reading ebook only is far away from having a good battery at 4000mah. I will give it a few more days to check.
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That's 10 hours at that usage, give or take, and right around what I'm seeing, 10% per hour of actual usage as an ebook, about 2-5% per hour if it's just sitting there connected, and about 15-20%/hour with heavy surfing or game playing.
I expect if I'm careful and keep the connectivity to a bare minimum, I can stretch 12 hours out of it when travelling.
Oh, and everyone...let the battery run down to zero at least once, preferably twice. We're talking total discharge to the point the phone turns itself off, then charge to 100%. This doesn't hurt or help the battery, but it does help make the actual battery monitoring more accurate.
honestly im not too impressed with the battery. i think the standby time sucks too. the iPad doesnt do a lot of things right, but the one thing it seems to do is to last for days. i realize the battery is close to twice as big but i was just use to that. i mean sure i dont use my ipad anymore, but it seems to last forever. anway, when i first got my tab, i managed to drain it in less than 6 hours. that was right out of the box (so it proly wasnt full all the way, but close to it). i was mad when that happened. that was with the brightness on auto and everything turned off except wifi. i could be just expecting too much. i thought conditioning the battery would be good for it. so i let it die all the way and recharged it to full. today, i wouldnt say i used the tablet like i usually would (i am a HEAVY user) and its been less than 12 hours and its already at 21%. this time it was running on 3G and brightness on low (not all the way, but about 30% or so). i dont even set the brightness to the highest cuz its too bright, auto seems to work the best. maybe im just being a tough critic. i mean my nexus only lasts like 5 hours now a days cuz i just use it too much. but im so use to just picking up another battery and moving along.
been having a good battery life after draining the battery to 3% twice then charging it to full again and now it almost last me 2 days better than my old nexus one using it primarily for comic book reading and bluetooth stereo music almost 6hrs. per day and a little gaming of angry birds and a little video and youtube + browsing calling and texting really don't like games too much
@croak
i've read a forum sometime ago that it's bad to drain li-ion to 0% so i think its better to drain it to near zero before charging again as i've read it may damage the cells if you drain it to 0%
how often should we condition the battery? (let it drain near 0 and charge up)
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@croak
i've read a forum sometime ago that it's bad to drain li-ion to 0% so i think its better to drain it to near zero before charging again as i've read it may damage the cells if you drain it to 0%
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Doesn't hurt a lithium ion battery much at all, it's just another charge cycle.
But if you don't go down to the point that the device shuts off at least once, your battery meter can and often will be off by a good bit. There's never any confirmation. When yours was reading 3%, it might have actually been 8%, or it may have been 1% or less, but until you zero it out, you'll never know, and neither will the device. It'll still know when it's at 100%, but any reading below that can be inaccurate.
And keep in mind, this is NOT zero charge, it is not completely drained (the device does the auto-shutdown specifically to AVOID a complete drain).
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how often should we condition the battery? (let it drain near 0 and charge up)
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Lithium Ion batteries don't need to be conditioned. But if you want to calibrate the battery meter, you'll need to do it at least once.
Using my Tab as a 3rd device, with my 1st being a HTC Evo and my 2nd being a Motorola i890, i am very impressed with the battery. Even treating my 1st and 2nd devices as red-headed step children and my Tab being in my hands more then them, my battery is yet to go below 50% in a day, the week i have had it. Even with checking 7 different email accounts every 5 min. Also, my Tab is on Wifi a majority of the day, which i would think puts more of a drain on the battery.
i was a little worried when i found out that the battery was not accessable to be able to swap it out at some point of the day. I have (6) batteries for my Evo, 2 red and 4 blacks. Before my tab, if my evo didnt touch a charger during the day, i would use atleast 4 of those batteries during the day. Yea, the size difference between the Evo and Tab battery is different, so i figured i wouldnt need 5 more Tab batteries, but atleast 1 or 2 extra.
My only complaint with regards to Power/Charging is the length of the USB Charge/Data cable. It is super short. i bought a 6ft extention @ Staples for about $5!
The fresh Tab battery is only spoiling us and will get worse as time goes by. I have been looking for other options in the mean time. Here are a few options i found:
ZAGGsparq 4000 mAh $90 @ fommy
Mophie - Juice Pack Powerstation 3600 mAh $99 @ BestBuy
ClearMax External Battery Pack 5000 mAh $39 @ eBay (questionable)
eGear UB-181 1800 mAh $19 @ eBay
eGear S220 (3-way charge: Solar,ac&usb) 2200 mAh $39 @ eBay
Yoobao YB-602 Power Bank (White or Black) 4800mAh $49 @ eBay
Personally, i think i am going with the Yoobao or Mophie or ZAGG.
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the ZAGGsparq is 6000 mAh, NOT 4000 like i stated above...
Yoobao has only 800 mA of output, too few !
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The ZAGG has 2 x 1000 mAh. i wonder what the output is @ 1? I doubt very much that it is 1 x 2000 mAh...
Im impress with the batterry , way much better than my Ipad that I just sold ...
The Droid Turbo features a 3900mah battery while the Note 4 features a 3220mah battery and a larger screen. However, testing shows that the Droid Turbo has worse battery efficiency than the Note 4., despite the Note 4's apparent disadvantages. So either the Droid Turbo has a more inefficient screen(since Samsung keeps top tier panels to themselves) or the battery capacity range is limited to improve longevity with the provided turbo charger. The only other screen that has a pixel density close the Droid Turbo is the Galaxy S5 LTE-a, so it seems unlikely that Droid turbo is using an outdated display(?).
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The Droid Turbo features a 3900mah battery while the Note 4 features a 3220mah battery and a larger screen. However, testing shows that the Droid Turbo has worse battery life than the Note 4., despite the Note 4's apparent disadvantages. So either the Droid Turbo has a more inefficient screen(since Samsung keeps top tier panels to themselves) or the battery capacity range is limited to improve longevity with the provided turbo charger. The only other screen that has a pixel density close the Droid Turbo is the Galaxy S5 LTE-a, so it seems unlikely that Droid turbo is using an outdated display(?).
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Your understanding and results of the things are wrong, no single page says that Note 4 has better longevity than Droid Turbo, besides, the source you are posting says that Turbo performs better than Note 4: Turbo has a 90h endurance rating while the Note 4 has 87h. In PhoneArena you have similar results, the Turbo lasted for 10h 42m while the Note 4 lasted 8h 43m. Another test made in Tom's Guide page says the same, the Note 4 is behind in terms of battery life.
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=6727
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks (Battery life)
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
In short, there is no way that the Note 4 achieves better battery life than the Turbo, because of the screen size in first place, and the shorter battery in second.
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Yeah the Turbo outlasts everything else. Plenty of reviews state it. However I do agree that the battery life is still somewhat underwhelming. My theory is that the phone does have pretty significant idle drain, so this drain will be going along all day, even stronger when in use. Maybe the KK system was rushed to get the phone out, since 5.0 is expected sometime soon? Who knows.
There has to be something wrong with the software related to the cell radios. Cell Standby blows through battery percentage wise. If I don't use my phone as much as usual, Cell Standby is the largest consumer of battery percentage. That should not happen. In all my previous phones, I've never seen it at the top of the battery stats or anywhere near it. I'm hoping it will be fixed via software but if not, the battery life is still great.
A lot of battery drain is due to bloatware. Check the forum for a thread about battery life. Few changes to the moto stuff and disabling apps increased my battery life. That said, the screen is a huge battery hog. When 5.0 gets to us though I'm sure we'll see a significant decrease in battery drain from idle and processes.
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Only tweak I've made is to change preferred network type settings to LTE/CDMA instead of global as it comes from the store...
I got two days battery life with about five hours screen on time my first charge cycle.
It might be underwhelming, but I'm impressed considering the screen it has to power. If the turbo came with the screen used in the X, I'd bet this would be a 3 day per charge phone at least...
In my humble opinion I honestly think the phone was never meant to have kit Kat. If you look at the timing of the release, pushed back 2 weeks and the phones on lollipop. I think this was a verizon decision to get the phone out ASAP. I seriously think all these little complaints are going to be squashed once lollipop hits.
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In my humble opinion I honestly think the phone was never meant to have kit Kat. If you look at the timing of the release, pushed back 2 weeks and the phones on lollipop. I think this was a verizon decision to get the phone out ASAP. I seriously think all these little complaints are going to be squashed once lollipop hits.
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Lollipop hasn't improved battery life on the 2014 X that I've noticed, not sure it will be a dramatic change on the Turbo.
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That's my guess as well. From what I've seen, it's not the OS that's the greatest battery hog.
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Lollipop hasn't improved battery life on the 2014 X that I've noticed, not sure it will be a dramatic change on the Turbo.
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Really?? That's disappointing. The results on the N5 were so good though. That sucks
I can get a good 17-18hrs PLUS of heavy usage in my area on my Turbo. To me this is PERFECT. Plus the added bonus of a Turbo Charger is just GRAVY.
Luke
lukesdiesel said:
I can get a good 17-18hrs PLUS of heavy usage in my area on my Turbo. To me this is PERFECT. Plus the added bonus of a Turbo Charger is just GRAVY.
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What's "heavy usage"? 6 hours of browsing on the internet? 7 hours on clash of clans? 4 hours streaming 4hd porn?
No complaints here
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This is what Turbo battery should look alike, besides this, I have seen people getting 10 SOT hours, so if this is possible with no root or extra stuff, I would be fine with the phone.
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This is what Turbo battery should look alike, besides this, I have seen people getting 10 SOT hours, so if this is possible with no root or extra stuff, I would be fine with the phone.
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I have location, google now and the front sensors on. The only thing I turn off is Bluetooth and NFC. About 60% WiFi today and 40% driving around on LTE with varying signal strengths. No root. No crazy anything. All the moto assist stuff on.
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What's "heavy usage"? 6 hours of browsing on the internet? 7 hours on clash of clans? 4 hours streaming 4hd porn?
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I know everyones "heavy usage" is different. Mine was 5hrs of screen on time, and almost 3 hrs of calls. Any other phone I have ever owned would have needed a charge or two to finish my day.
I got 44 hours on a single charge this past Fri/Sat w/ just a hair under 3hrs of SOT. Sat/Sun got me about 29hrs w/ around 6 hours of SOT (checking fantasy scores/highlights/etc). I have no complaints about the battery life.
Can't find the thread for this but I'm just chillin using my Turbo and I just installed gsam. Right now my battery is at 107?? It feels warm but what's up with this? My GPS isn't even on.
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Not too shabby.
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I disabled as much of the Verizon and Motorola bloat as possible except Moto Display and I get 17 to 20 hours in between charges with about 7 hours screen on time. I think the battery performance is the best of any phone I have ever had. Especially since the display requires so much juice when it's on.
I couldn't find a thread about battery and SOT, so here it is.
Battery life is one of the most important things in today's gadgets and even if it's often up to what kind of apps and usage pattern you have there is still good to find a baseline to benchmark your own battery life against.
Please show us your battery life, SOT and any findings you have about what to do, and not, to maximize it.
If possible , please use gsam battery monitor and post screenshot. Gsam is a great tool and will also show you parts of what's going on energywise. Root is normally needed for more granular reports.
Thanks!
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I'll put up some screenshots tomorrow after I've had a few full cycles. But its not looking good IMO.
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It's still a very early firmware and hopefully it's possible to find what's draining.
Looking forward to it, but sad news if it's the same for everyone.
Thank you!
First cycles with all initial syncs were getting me about 6:30 hours. After a few cycles, intensive usage (very little gaming, but lots of browsing, twitter, FB, sports timer, some camera etc) I am getting around 8:45. I noticed that changing brightness from default auto (too dark for me) to manual +2 (very bright) doesn't impact battery life much. I think the main drain comes from the 810 and theming.
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8:45 of screen on time ?
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First cycles with all initial syncs were getting me about 6:30 hours. After a few cycles, intensive usage (very little gaming, but lots of browsing, twitter, FB, sports timer, some camera etc) I am getting around 8:45. I noticed that changing brightness from default auto (too dark for me) to manual +2 (very bright) doesn't impact battery life much. I think the main drain comes from the 810 and theming.
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Theming is known to be able to drain.
Is there a "stock version" that don't drain and is it possible to measure?
When it comes to the SOC, I imagine that's mostly up to Qualcomm and HTC to fix.
Actually more around 8:00 screen on with 45' screen off. Note that I disabled FB and Twitter feed sync, and configured location services only on one Google account and did not use theming on these cycles.
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Actually more around 8:00 screen on with 45' screen off. Note that I disabled FB and Twitter feed sync, and configured location services only on one Google account and did not use theming on these cycles.
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About 8 hours of SOT with more than 50% brightness sounds really good, even if you turn location and stuff off.
Can you upload som statistic about what is taking battery and SOT?
Thanks
8 hours is quite consistent with the reviews, e.g. Engadget:
In the standard Engadget rundown test (with a video set to loop endlessly while the screen's set to 50 percent brightness), the M9 stuck around for eight hours and 19 minutes -- a decent increase over the original One M7, but far short of the 11-plus hours we squeezed out of the M8 last year and the 10-plus hours the G Flex2 put up. That seems abnormally low, especially considering that the M9 did just fine when it came to average daily use: It regularly hung around for 13 to 14 hours of continuous work use (including a few spells as a mobile hotspot during press events) without batting an eye.
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Also in my experience 8 hours with the screen off will drain 10%. This is without the phone doing much and WiFi only as I don't have a SIM in there yet.
Coming from a first gen Moto G I don't feel too concerned.
Xero Xenith said:
8 hours is quite consistent with the reviews, e.g. Engadget:
Also in my experience 8 hours with the screen off will drain 10%. This is without the phone doing much and WiFi only as I don't have a SIM in there yet.
Coming from a first gen Moto G I don't feel too concerned.
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True, but most of those test is normally about looping a video, web-script, on 50% brightness.
I you just got the phone and using it in a mixed way 8 hours is pretty good. I never had 8 hours on the M8, even when reading books with flight-mode on (weekend in another country, don't want to get ruined
But... I also have close to 200 apps running god knows what in the background.
dondavis007 said:
About 8 hours of SOT with more than 50% brightness sounds really good, even if you turn location and stuff off.
Can you upload som statistic about what is taking battery and SOT?
Thanks
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Absolutely no way is anyone getting 8hrs of SOT with 50% left. Not even then 720p blue studio energy with a 5000mah is.
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Absolutely no way is anyone getting 8hrs of SOT with 50% left. Not even then 720p blue studio energy with a 5000mah is.
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No one said they had 50% battery remaining after 8 hours of SOT. They were talking about the screen brightness being set at 50%
I think you've misread that. It's 8hrs SOT with brightness at 50%. Not remaining battery at 50%.
Here is mine so far tonight after 2 full drain and recharge cycles.
It seems the system itself is a big impact on the battery. Need a lot more work on the firmware.
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It seems the system itself is a big impact on the battery. Need a lot more work on the firmware.
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I think this is the only encouraging thing anyone can say right now.
We know that the M8 is capable of great battery life. The M9 has a bigger battery than the M8 so hopefully the firmware can improve.
As apposed to the S6 where the battery size leaves the battery life nowhere to go but down.
I've been testing a Verizon version with all the test software on it so it's hard to gauge battery life. My main complaint about the phone is its slow charge rate. Takes hours to charge
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I've been testing a Verizon version with all the test software on it so it's hard to gauge battery life. My main complaint about the phone is its slow charge rate. Takes hours to charge
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im guessing your not buying the htc quick charger 2.0?
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im guessing your not buying the htc quick charger 2.0?
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That's using a Motorola fast charger that came with my nexus. I think that the last update slowed the charge to help with battery temp problems many of the testers were having
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No one said they had 50% battery remaining after 8 hours of SOT. They were talking about the screen brightness being set at 50%
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Even 8 hours in general is hard to believe in real world use.
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im guessing your not buying the htc quick charger 2.0?
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I used an Apple iPad charger which gives out 12w/2.1a. It still took nearly 5hrs to charge my dead phone to full power.
My iPhone 6 plus with the same charger takes about 2.5-3hrs to charge a dead phone.
Charging m9 with out of the box charger from 12% takes me about 2 hours and 15 minutes. I'm in France . Don't know whether this is the 'quick' charger or not.
Also, power history graph crashes if I try to launch it while charging
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Hey guys, I recently bought the chrome version of Z5 premium dual.
It's been almost a week and I can safely say that I'm disappointed by the battery.
My Z3 dual almost gave me 2 days of battery life with moderate to heavy usage, Z5P dual is far from that.
Take a look at the screenshots below.
It barely gave me a day with moderate usage, I didn't even play any games during this period.
I'm not sure if the 5.5 inch 4k screen is its friend or a foe.
I'll conduct more tests and share the results.
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thank you for this
Screen on time??
It would be great to know the Screen-on-time and the brightness you've set for the screen.
Some point i think needs to be cleared by OP:
1. From the graph it's not charged fully to 100%?
2. First charge? I think no wonder..
3. Clean Master? 3GB of RAM and 32 GB of ROM and OP still need one? It obviously will take some battery power to do monitoring and cleaning..
But overall, Seeing more than 24 hour battery life time is quite good actually. Maybe not as efficient as Z3 but it's been the norm for all 810 devices. Only SOT part is needed here. Good news is when OP is asleep, the phone is sleeping too
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Some point i think needs to be cleared by OP:
1. From the graph it's not charged fully to 100%?
2. First charge? I think no wonder..
3. Clean Master? 3GB of RAM and 32 GB of ROM and OP still need one? It obviously will take some battery power to do monitoring and cleaning..
But overall, Seeing more than 24 hour battery life time is quite good actually. Maybe not as efficient as Z3 but it's been the norm for all 810 devices. Only SOT part is needed here. Good news is when OP is asleep, the phone is sleeping too
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I did charge it to 100%
Screen brightness was set to 50%
As far as clean master goes, its rather a handy app to remove whatsapp and some other apps from from the active apps list. It's a necessity for me, might not be for you.
Another update, I removed the secondary sim card from the device and the standby time improved considerably.
Using a single sim since yesterday on 3G mode.
Hey guys, I did a 720p video test. Here's the result.
MX player pro
Brightness set at 10
Volume set at 15
Handsfree plugged in
Both sim cards active
Battery dropped from 100% to 66% after 1.5 hours
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Hey guys, I did a 720p video test. Here's the result.
MX player pro
Brightness set at 10
Volume set at 15
Handsfree plugged in
Both sim cards active
Battery dropped from 100% to 66% after 1.5 hours
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Its like sony has gone back to to life before the z2/3 as far as battery is concerned. No more excellent battery life just mediocre - average.
how about battery stats for single sim? really curious as I am planning to get one myself when it gets released in my country.
just so you all know this phone has octa core so don't expect it will handle 2 days use of battery since once all 8 cores are working it will drain battery 2x faster or so than z3 would take as quad core.
But cpu does stopp some of it's cores when not needed then it will say Stopped on other 4 cores or if it says sleeping depending on which app you use to check.
I guess Sony might have solved heat problem of the S810 but not batter.......
This is not a phone for you if you watch movies or videos all the time.
Mine is 2 weeks old now, after extensive usage I can safely say it lasts comfortably for a day on a full charge with normal usage, without watching movies. If you do watch videos or movies it'll drain out in 7-8 hours.
So got my Z5P yesterday and I am not impressed with the battery it drains quite fast and I have power saving on and brightness around 25%
Any screen on time from full charge?
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So got my Z5P yesterday and I am not impressed with the battery it drains quite fast and I have power saving on and brightness around 25%
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Yea it's definitely disappointing, one of the primary reasons I purchased it was for the larger battery. I really didn't think it would be so average! I honestly find myself using my z ultra around the house on Wi-Fi. I think if I had a sim kit to revert back I'd regress lol. It's battery is growing on me now, and I just received my case in the mail today so I can stop treating it like an infant!
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Yea it's definitely disappointing, one of the primary reasons I purchased it was for the larger battery. I really didn't think it would be so average! I honestly find myself using my z ultra around the house on Wi-Fi. I think if I had a sim kit to revert back I'd regress lol. It's battery is growing on me now, and I just received my case in the mail today so I can stop treating it like an infant!
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Same here and the bigger screen, I had the Z5 before and wasn't impressed with the battery on that and the premium is hardly any better even when I am not viewing photos or videos, even just sending texts or on whats app im just watching the battery drain so fast, it doesn't even drain so fast on my ip6s or gs6. I don't know if its just because of the S810 but there is no other android phone i like this year with a big screen (5.5 inch+) they are all just disappointing imo.
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Any screen on time from full charge?
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I think yesterday mine was around 5 hours SOT. Mostly whats app and texts but my iphone can do about the same and so can my s6. This battery lasts only a bit longer overall than S6 or iphone on the same screen brightness, power saving and usage and having a much bigger battery. The S810 must really be rubbish, i would have rather them cut the 4K screen and used a 808 processor as for a 3430mah cell the battery life is dismal. I had the Z3 before aswell and the battery life made me love the phone can't say the same for the premium, Ive only had it two days and i dont like it already but i cant keep changing phones so i gotta ride it out until next year but on this basis this is definitely a phone I will get rid of in around 6 months time unless some serious battery improvements come.
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just so you all know this phone has octa core so don't expect it will handle 2 days use of battery since once all 8 cores are working it will drain battery 2x faster or so than z3 would take as quad core.
But cpu does stopp some of it's cores when not needed then it will say Stopped on other 4 cores or if it says sleeping depending on which app you use to check.
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It's not the extra cores that drain the battery.
CPU cores in mobile phones are very small (4 or 8 cores) and if u compare that power useage with a 5.5" big screen you'll get my point..
@arjun.arora
Don't close your apps so often. I see u use some cleaner app. I never liked those apps, I just closed my apps in recent app menu but since android lollipop it is not recommended to close apps at all - android manages this for u.
If u just let all ur opened apps open for a couple of days u will see the device gets smoother and faster and maybe also more juice friendly :thumbup:
(E.g. every app u kill, need to be opened at some time. So when u don't kill, it opens faster and doesn't need that much power to open)
I don't know why, but it's finish faster 100% to 65%. Then it's goes to 0% slowly. I am a heavy user and it's give me at least whole day with 8 hours screen.
Hi guys. I've had my premium for about a week now and everyday with approx same usage I am only getting 3.5 hrs screen on time! With and without stamina mode. Same
Do you think there could be something wrong with the device
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Managed to get this on my first charge using it heavy all day on data only.
Not too bad.
I've had one battery since I bought my phone in August 2015
Over the past few weeks I began noticing much less standby and screen on time as before.....
I looked for any rogue apps that could be causing the drain...
I contemplated whether it was the new v20e and f updates..
I then got two official LG batteries from am Amazon seller for $15 (out it curiosity really)
Any now my battery drain is GONE.
I didn't realize I could have battery degradation so soon.... I've used the official charger for 8 months and a certified Qualcomm quick charger for the last 2 months
Not sure... But possible that I crossed 400 charge cycles on my original battery... As I use it as my primary smartphone and primary camera (mirrorless got relegated to the box)
Maybe the marshmallow battery drain is really decreased battery capacity?
Anyone else experience anything similar?
This also makes me wonder if phones like the Nexus 6p really have a shorter service life than I thought.
I hope LG keeps trying with what is now their exclusive feature of removable batteries. Not too impressed with the friend modules so far.... But I think I'll be buying the lg360 cam asap once it's compatible with my g4.
Same here!
Got the phone on May 2015. Battery life started to get worse with first MM update.
I used to get about 4-5 hours of screen-on time, now I get about 2-3 max.
Sometimes I need to recharge in the middle of the day(never happened before, even with moderately heavy use).
I'll get a new battery as well and post results, thanks for bringing up the issue OP
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tsimpoyris said:
Same here!
Got the phone on May 2015. Battery life started to get worse with first MM update.
I used to get about 4-5 hours of screen-on time, now I get about 2-3 max.
Sometimes I need to recharge in the middle of the day(never happened before, even with moderately heavy use).
I'll get a new battery as well and post results, thanks for bringing up the issue OP
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Same situation here. Flashed 5.1, but still have max 3h SOT.
One first charge cycle with new LG battery
Will report back tomorrow maybe
Obvious difference already
GPS seems the issue for me
Battery life was good on lollipop. After the marshmallow update, started having significant drain. Did a factory reset, was slightly better. After analyzing for a bit, noticed massive GPS use, mostly in play services. Turned off location, and now use it only as needed. Giant increase in battery life.
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I have no real battery issues with MM v20d, still on the original battery from June 2015.
Had the bootloop so MB replaced 506-->601.
After flashing v20f I started to experience battery drain (Android-system), it was caused by my Fitbit charge hr bluetooth connection.
Turning off bluetooth and only turning it on when I want to sync my Fitbit stopped the Android-system wakelocks.
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One first charge cycle with new LG battery
Will report back tomorrow maybe
Obvious difference already
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Results? [emoji2] I have just received my new LG battery and almost done with the first charging cycle. I will report after few days.
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Results? [emoji2] I have just received my new LG battery and almost done with the first charging cycle. I will report after few days.
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Yes
Back to 1% drain on wifi overnight
And 4 hrs sot
I could see the battery percentage drop every few minutes of screen on with the original battery
So more that worth the $16 I paid for 2 new batteries
I really wasn't expecting to see a difference as my initial battery is now 10 months old
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Not sure... But possible that I crossed 400 charge cycles on my original battery... As I use it as my primary smartphone and primary camera (mirrorless got relegated to the box)
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Depends at which point you recharge.
ideally up to 90, back on at 40. Trying not to go below. With my 3+ yr old tab tab i've mostly followed that regime now and still can get almost 8h sot. 1500 cycles possible.
if you charge to 100 and then again at 5 & 10. Those are deep discharges which will decrease battery life sooner so around 300-500 cycles you see less battery life. (see table 2)
hey, it just might not be possible to do the former and this is why replaceable batteries are best.
This also makes me wonder if phones like the Nexus 6p really have a shorter service life than I thought.
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There is a catch here, the 6P isn't the easiest of devices to service. it gets a ifixit score of 2 (!). So a battery replacement is going to be involved and cost appropriately.
I hope LG keeps trying with what is now their exclusive feature of removable batteries.
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Definitely and the problem gets exacerbated with quick charge. Quick charge isn't good for batteries but everybody loves it.
QC 2 tries to get as much charge as it can up to a certain point then tapers off. Its more stressful than QC3 which tries to get as much as the phone will allow.Subtle difference.
It's possible with quick, fast, turbo whatever charge that people will require to change batteries sooner than in the past.
Just update to MM yesterday. My phone is just 2 days old so I have nothing weird to report about battery. Last night, I left my phone at 40%, after 5 hours of sleep, my batt is at 39%. So I guess this is a pretty good one. I also play games for 20 minutes and got 5% drain only.
Usually the battery drain after updating to mm is caused by fast dormancy.
U have to disable it.
Go to the hidden menu, type *#546368#*815# (replace 815 with ur model number, so 812 if u have the 812 model etc)
Then go to field test>Modem settings>PDP setting>0 and sellect fast dormancy off.
Reboot phone and you should be fine
This worked for me, try before u buy a new battery
Definitely we talking about battery degradation. Same usage, same condition, disabled MLT, Fast dormancy, etc etc etc... I am not new in Android world and LG phones. This is the result after first charging of my new battery. That was impossible with the old one. Result was 3h SOT and only 15% to 20% battery left on LP with the old battery. Now i have 3h 40 min SOT and 44% battery left. Usually i have 25 to 30 min SOT from 100% to 90%. Today from 100% to 90%= 1h 12 min SOT. If this is not improvement and proof for battery degradation...
PS: This is close or equal to my initial result, when the phone was new.
Could you send me a link to that battery that you have ordered?
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This is original LG battery, which i bought from the store of the official LG importer in my country and unfortunately i can't provide you a link. I presume that on Ebay you can find original battery and may be cheaper than mine (25€).
G4 dual models are better than others i think , i usually get 4:30 hours SOT with wifi on and sync and one day standby on my H818N dual sim model.
This is the final result with the new battery after one charging cycle. Considering my usage and my results with the old battery, i am absolutely glad from my purchase.
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This is the final result with the new battery after one charging cycle. Considering my usage and my results with the old battery, i am absolutely glad from my purchase.
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Same here.
But do you happen to use a quick charger?
I used a quick charger for only 2 out of the 10 months that I had mine.... I'd like to think the quick degradation isn't due to that
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Could you send me a link to that battery that you have ordered?
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I got mine from "gadgets and supplies" on Amazon
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Same here.
But do you happen to use a quick charger?
I used a quick charger for only 2 out of the 10 months that I had mine.... I'd like to think the quick degradation isn't due to that
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I didn't use a quick charger even a single time, only charger from the box of the phone.
Overall... My device have two super weak spots: bootloop problem from the last week, and battery that lasts only 10 months...
Oh, and image retention/ burn in/ bla bla display...
D*mn, my experience with this phone it's not so good... [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]