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Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.
Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).
Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol
How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?
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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do
Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Thats why im getting it....
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Thats why im getting it....
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Im gonna root it day one and run CM11. Im on sprint so i could have took the easy route with a n5 but I like to do some tinkering so here i go.
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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Thats why im getting it....
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JRJ442 said:
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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Some have issues getting ROMs to flash on the 12B for VZW update. But over time all the ROMs will have that fixed. The ROM community seem to have most of the bugs fixed or they're working on fixing them. I'd say give some a try.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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This is good to hear. It sounds like G2 is the next best thing to having a Nexus on Verizon. At least I know I am not crazy or at least no alone in wanted to root and rom immediately.
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. The battery and camera are hard to ignore especially when they are two of my biggest issues with my Galaxy Nexus. Hardware you cannot change, but software.... I will check out PA, CM and the other AOSP options available. I guess I better research and prepare for 12B just in case it is already updated.
I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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kennypow3rs said:
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I wanted to reply in this thread but you did it for me. Exactly what happened with me (Intl instead of Verizon).
DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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khaytsus said:
Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Sounds like 'to each their own...' regarding the rear keys, yet they do not appear to be a deal breaker or keeping you from enjoying the phone.
I recently read a review that praised the hardware, yet cursed the software. They even commented that this phone is probably better for people who root phones. I am looking forward to doing so.
So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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Go ahead and put your vote in the top of the OP sir! Id like to see what everyone has to think about this topic!
Granted im very inclined to agree with you on your answer. I dont think its necessary. More or less a habit just to do it and were spoiled with the features! But yes some of the perks would definitely be nice!
I say no. I think every Samsung phone from here on out will be locked down tight on Att and Verizon. Sprint will have root and that will be the only route for rooting in the near future.
I HIGHLY disagree... this device will definitely see root. And although it performs great without it, things like write protection completely diminish the joy of having a capable device. We'll see root, maybe not an unlocked bootloader... but there's always safestrap....Samsung's devs are great, buy ours are better... hence the hiring of Steve.
For 1 just because it is hard to root makes it more tempting for someone to cracking the code and for 2 touchwiz sux it lags freezes and remove all that crap that Verizon and samsung put on our phones.
I mean... the Note 3 was the same.. it had a Root. I'm sure something will pop up
prob have root but no unlock bootloader
Looking back at old devices and seeing where we are now. I think the chances of obtaining a root exploit for this device are like 1 in a million. So I'm going with no on both. But that doesn't take away any value of the phone itself, its still the biggest beast around currently. Its also priced the most among online marketplaces next to the iPhone 6.
Highly unlikely. If it does, it will be some new universal root that happens to work on the Verizon version, but nothing Verizon specific.
Maybe if everyone keeps saying no, someone will look at this thread and be like, "can't? I can't? Lemme show these dudes why I am who I am." Lol
This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
I really hope it will happen. I really have been grinding my teeth using the note 4 without root. I need my per app dpi settings, adaway, and more xposed modules. Honestly I would probably return it if I still could.
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This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
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Ditto... love it so far!
Hard to say, but I'm thinking no.
"No" right now and once L is released, helL no. Sorry, but that is what it seems to me.
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Well it seems like the dial is leaning more towards the side of most people thinking we will or most certainly get root.
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Those who think more than likely not or most certainly not.
Ive got high hopes but like i stated im mighty happy with how the device is performing at this point in time. Of course the added benifit of removing junk would be great if anything that and xposed!
Im keeping my Root Alert set to high! LOL
Thanks for voting it up fellas! :good:
i say 100% on KK and on L 75%
i have read a thread just like this on soooo many devices since the OG Droid and the only thing that has been successful since has been locking the bootloader. N4 just needs the right people with it in their hands and that will eventually happen.
L has already gained root access without a modified kernel which you can read about here.
personally i am not moving from the N3 until there is root and at minimum SafeStrap working. i have most of the N4 software features mixed with some L and some S5 stuff with a great theme and some amazing Xposed apps on my N3 that i am not willing to give up. customization from theme to software tweaks is something i highly value.
No root mark my words
What about the KNOX flag? Does it not really matter? I pay 10$ a month for insurace so does the warranty matter that much?
Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Why not use the debloat rom and native tethering? More than one way to skin a cat.
Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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The Hybrid ROM is not-rooted. You get the performance of the stock kernel with a very well debloated system. It also has the hotspot fix implemented. The ROM even passes SafetyNet. I haven't downgraded to MM from Nougat, so I can't give any insight on that part.
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
spearoid said:
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/development/rom-t3576124/page13
I have it running on two phones and have no gripes.
I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
n240sxle91 said:
I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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The hybrid rom is just 7.0 debloated for vzw and tmo, but working on all us s7 flay/edge variants. The only way back would be odin if Samsung didn't lock the bootloader to not allow a downgrade
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
n240sxle91 said:
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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The unlocked ones aren't bootloader unlocked, just carrier unlocked. So, when they get the N update, they will also most likely not be able to downgrade. I would suggest the hybrid and staying with the demon you have than to worry about root and associated apps, but to each their own. There are free themes that can help with things and apps galore to customize most of the phone.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
spearoid said:
well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Check the theme app. There are dark themes there thay help out a lot.
spearoid said:
well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Does this change the colors of the notification shade and such? I don't use any stock launchers, icons, etc....I use Nova Launcher
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Okay so I went ahead and looked into it a little further....perhaps I will find one that gives me what I want.....a little skeptical of custom themes in general....boy how I miss the simplistic Holo days!
Thanks guys for the input! I'll consider the hybrid rom. It might be what I do. Can the hybrid rom have the contacts app and calendar app from the stock marshmallow rom? If I had those I could probably live with the rest.
Just thought I'd update people who come here looking to do the same thing. You CAN use ODIN to reinstall the stock 6.0.1 image even after you've updated to Nougat. You have to turn on the hidden "developer options" in the S7's settings first, but after that it works perfectly. Then you just need to disable the packages that download/notify you about the OTA update.
Thanks goes to CVertigo1, and everyone else here, for helping me out with this! So happy to be back on Marshmallow! Maybe in a few months they'll change the apps/UI back and I'll try Nougat again. One can hope!
OK, here's the latest. I rolled back to 6.0.1 just fine, but unfortunately I believe Samsung locked the system with the late September update. That means I can't use ADB or Package Disabler Pro to hide/block/disable the OTA update packages. So, I can't disable the packages that stop the OTA update unless I rollback to a ROM before they locked the system. Unfortunately again, the baseband is different for the older updates, so I can't rollback that far.
So, now I have Marshmallow back, but I have the annoying notification update that won't go away too. Still looking for a way around it without root. If anyone has any ideas please let me know!
"Thanks Samsung for locking our phones!" -said no one ever
Alright... last update I think. I found a different app that gets the job done. It's called BK Package Disabler. After you install it you can do a search for "sdm". Disable both of those packages, and the OTA notification goes away, and it doesn't look for any new ones either.
Still on 6.0, but daily SYSTEM UPDATE to 7.0 occurring. Can I shut them off to keep 6.0 for a few more months?
S7 on Verizon
Yeah, if you download BK Disabler from the app store you can stop the notification about the update. Just search for "sdm" in the app. Two packages should pop up. If you disable both of them you should be set.
HOWEVER, I don't know much about this app, so I am not endorsing it. I used it and it worked, but I wasn't able to find a lot of information about it on the forums. So, use at your own risk.
Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Just unlock and root, all following the guides. Use TWRP 3.2.1-0.
You can dualboot ROMs as long as the primary ROM is stock MiFavor. It's a little bit more complicated with Oreo ROMs but it's doable. Otherwise just try with titanium backup maybe, people still use that thing
Skv012a said:
Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.
RobboW said:
Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.
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Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.
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Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.
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On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done
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On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done
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So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?
In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print.
In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print and also set it to take picture. I have a finger set to turn on the torch when it's locked.
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So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you
Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.
RobboW said:
Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.
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I generally agree, but, there's no camera2, no double click for camera, and even these 2 misc features actually make or break a phone for me. If even Blackberry had the camera shortcut, with its potato of a camera otherwise, I don't see why ZTE decided to take it out entirely. Add a disclaimer and made it a toggleable option, not remove it entirely because of stupid people who put their phones into pockets with screen facing inwards.
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you
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Well, I personally never lock my phone because it annoys the hell out of me and my phone doesn't leave my side, ever, and on top of that A7 seems to hate my prints, so this is hardly a viable option for me. And, using the print sensor as a shutter, once and only once you're in the camera is pointless for me. double power button brings up the camera on top of whatever else you have going on, lock/screen off or not, to let you take that quick snap and that's exactly what I loved in 6.0.1 and onwards.