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So I've seen rumors of the Transformer 2 coming out in foreseeable future with a Tegra 3 processor and all the bells and whistles. Has Acer made any indication that it will have an answer back device? I almost feel like I've gotten on to the Tablet Train too late if they are about to do a generation shift with the processors and such.
Yes it will.
Yeah, it will be available via an OTA end of August
Edit - so long as you have not deleted your telephony app
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Yeah, it will be available via an OTA end of August
Edit - so long as you have not deleted your telephony app
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Unless they put Star Trek teleporter technology in this thing I don't think they can OTA update the processor.
I do think they'll come out with a Tegra 3 tablet, I can think of no reason why they wouldn't. Considering it'd be more similar of a development environment than switching to OMAP or something. I also think that when it comes to touting your "platform" Nvidia sounds better than TI or Qualcomm. It's a more known brand, at least for high performance parts.
Perhaps the better questions would be, has Acer confirmed an Tegra 3 tablet? Is there any inkling that they will release anything close to the time that Asus does?
What your tab don't have Teleport!!!
You should try the new vogon rom c fleet v1.02.119.006 update 61b alpha...
I was thinking about buying the Samsung galaxy S2 with the Dual core but im think I'm gonna wait for the rumoured galaxy S3 that may be released end of this year!
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I love it! I wanna see higher definiton and how it looks!
Has the current Gen of 10" Honeycomb tablets even been out for a year yet? It seems crazy that the next generation is already coming out. Won't that create marketplace confusion?
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Has the current Gen of 10" Honeycomb tablets even been out for a year yet? It seems crazy that the next generation is already coming out. Won't that create marketplace confusion?
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Hell, Nvidia already had Tegra 3 on roadmaps for 2012 before the first real Tegra 2 devices were out, if I wasn't such a must have guy I'd have waited. As it is I'll sell the Iconia or pass it to the g/f and get me a Tegra 3/Ice Cream Sandwich device when they hit. That's provided reviews don't show some other platform stomping Tegra 3, which is doubtful.
Johnny0906 said:
I was thinking about buying the Samsung galaxy S2 with the Dual core but im think I'm gonna wait for the rumoured galaxy S3 that may be released end of this year!
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I love it! I wanna see higher definiton and how it looks!
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There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
FloatingFatMan said:
There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
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I thought the Transformer 2 was slated for this year?
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I thought the Transformer 2 was slated for this year?
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It was announced "before CES," which is in January, 2012.
Tegra 3 seems inevitable for android tabs its like asking if the newest high end PC's will have the latest Intel cpus. When they will be released is another question. Since most tegra2 tabs were only released a few months ago I can't see anything replacing them for at least another year.
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I would not say it's a dead certainty by any means, considering that the founder of Acer has expressed pessimism about the future of tablets. I'd post a link, but as a new user, i'm not allowed to do so - article title is "Ultrabooks and tablet PCs are short-term fads, says Acer founder" on digitimes.
For sure there will be Tegra 3 based tablets, but maybe not by Acer. I get the impression that the A500 might not be a huge commercial success for Acer.
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There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
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Latest reports are targeting october for the first market launches
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Latest reports are targeting october for the first market launches
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To launch in October would mean the tabs would have to be in the functional prototype stage NOW. Even if Nvidia do manage to release the hardware this year (latest reports peg a CPU release for Q3 2011), it's REALLY unlikely anything will make it to market for several months afterwards.
Archos has a tablet coming out using a 1.5ghz TI chip. They already have the promo videos out. It looks to have improved performance. Seems to me that the 1ghz Tegra2 chip just isn't quite powerful enough for 3.1. I run stock with overclock kernel and keep my CPU set to 1.2ghz to get the kind of performance I need. I had a Viewsonic gTablet that I tried to run at 1.2ghz and it couldn't take the overclocking and would crash frequently. So far my A500 has handled the overclocking in all modes, including video play, Netflix, etc. Very pleased with that.
@jyams There are actually some benchmarks of systems using those chips, they're pretty decent performance wise.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4511/archos-80-and-101-g9-tablets-the-fastest-tablets-in-the-world
Part way down that page is a small "preview" of two phones, one using the lower end TI chip, OMAP 4430 I think. It's compared to a phone using Tegra 2. The 1.5GHz part I think is 4460 however, so should have a bit more performance. It's only a couple of benchmarks, so take it with a grain of salt.
Another thing to consider, how is the dev community for other platforms? I've only owned one non-Tegra device and there was none for it.
Heeey mates!
Here comes the Galaxy Note 10.1! It´s listed as available in ~5 weeks for ~$549.99. But what really is new for me is the listed xeon CPU ...maybe just a wrong info?
Xeon CPU?
You may be correct; most reporting this news believe the processor will be the Samsung Exynos.
Description accuracy fail...
There's no way it could be a Xeon
1. It wouldn't fit inside the device
2. It isn't compatible with the other hardware and Android OS
3. Would drain/explode a full charged battery in about 5 min
Maybe you could order one to try it out and then return using "item not as described".
Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad CPU will feature in GNote 10.1"
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This is an exciting device. But... For me... Everytime I think about a tablet I cant get past my Note can do all of it too.
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Quickly buy Intel stocks......If they are going to ship 7 millions Xeons lol
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Quickly buy Intel stocks......If they are going to ship 7 millions Xeons lol
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No... did i hear Intel stocks tanking.. Amazons removed the listing!
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Heeey mates!
Here comes the Galaxy Note 10.1! It´s listed as available in ~5 weeks for ~$549.99. But what really is new for me is the listed xeon CPU ...maybe just a wrong info?
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When you do the Amazon setup sheets in Excel they have a drop down box of CPU's and low and behold there are only 2 ARM processors in there and they are so old they are ARM 9 types, so you default to having to put something else in there and certainly you don't want to put those old ARM chips.
A xeon is fitting in a perverse kind of way
my att Note 2 is broken. I know that Moto X will be a google phone and it is coming out soon. should I wait to just get the nexus 4?
N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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For now, the only specs "downgraded" seems to be the CPU (quad-core > dual-core).
Anyway, first let's see the presentation on the 1th of august
Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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I believe the rumor is it's going to be undercutting the Nexus 4 at under $265 even... and even though it's a dualcore it apparently outperforms the N4's quadcore...
So yeah OP, I think the MotoX is probably the better choice. But let's wait for an official announcement before making rash decisions ;P
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Cores matter but per core performance usually matters more...
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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I've read this is a pretty custom CPU that is utilizing cores in a different way. Having more cores doesn't make it faster. Apparently the Moto X has chips that offload some of the processing power (like for voice). So I would expect the experience to be more smooth than the N4.
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers
wait my friend, HTC one mAXX , Galaxy note 3, Galaxy s4 with snapdragon 800, lg optimus g2, sony xperia Z ultra.
patience
Yeah, I would wait just a few weeks to see the official specs on the Moto X before buying any phone, TBH.
Personally, I'm incredibly happy with my Nexus 4 and could care less about any other phone right now... Unless something comes out that is priced so low with insane specs... Then I'd get it as a backup phone and switch between it and my Nexus 4 whenever the mood strikes me but I'm not giving up my Nexus 4 just yet. I love the little thing!
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until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers
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We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.
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We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.
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But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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I think that's a safe bet... but if the rumors that the Moto X will be on Verizon are true I'm sure that version won't have an unlockable bootloader... at least not officially.
Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.
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Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.
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that was before google bought them ;P
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that was before google bought them ;P
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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i do believe they had some global phones such as the droid 2 global which had gsm support... or some gsm support at least.
but it would be the first full blown gsm device i think. im not really sure
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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No, the Motorola Atrix line is GSM and on AT&T
With Knox and the snapdragon version coming out. What are the realistic chances of getting quality custom ROMs for our awesome tablets.
thoughts?
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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The Note 10.1 2014 only comes with a Snapdragon 800 as far as I know...
The currently released version (WiFi) of the GN10.1 2014 has an octa-core Exynos5. NOT the new Snapdragon. Considering just how much coverage went into the big.LITTLE architecture, an the various enquiries and wariness on the parts of reviewers about the Exynos Chip as compared to the Snapdragon, just how many people DIDN'T know about it?
I mean, it's a MAJOR decision maker/breaker for some people!
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I have seen nothing suggest there's a Snapdragon version coming out.
That said, can someone tell me why that would halt development?
AFAIK Samsung does not release any source code for exynos stuff while Qualcomm does release code for the snapdragon processors. But I could be mistaken.
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Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
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Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
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Unfortunately, I don't think the price is going to help :fingers-crossed:
Honestly, The Note is the only one of my devices where I never got rid of TW. Not that I like it, I hate it and will theme it out so it's not so ugly, use a different launcher etc.. but the TW features on the note is what I buy the note for. Especially how deeply integrated the S-pen features are. Sure there are other note taking apps out there (lecture notes.. etc) but I always preferred s-note, and now on the 2014 model even more so, s-note is a lot better now. I think using an AOSP based rom on this type of device is kinda a waste but that's just my opinion. I usually will theme it out to look as much as stock android as I can.. All my other devices I'm constantly flashing stuff on. My old note 10.1 has been running the same rom for about a year. haha
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Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
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You are right.
As far as the OP goes, I don't think there is any word that a snapdragon version is coming out, is there?
As far as I know, Wifi-only versions (P600) get Exynos while 3G (P603) et 4G (P605) have Snapdragon S800.
I have a 4G version and it clearly has a S800 in it.
Now looking forward to get root and remove most of Samsung bloatware...
NM, delete this.
According to this Engadget review
With the 2014 Note 10.1, you'll find yourself using one of two chips: the 3G and WiFi-only versions come with an octa-core Exynos 5420 chipset built in, while the LTE unit features a 2.3GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800.
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allan1313 said:
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
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I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
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Good to know. I think I will wait to see what the new nexus 10 will offer and decide then.
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Seems that Google are preparing a surprise for us:
http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=Motorola+XT1032&testgroup=system
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Seems that Google are preparing a surprise for us:
http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=Motorola+XT1032&testgroup=system
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correct me if i am wrong but isnt that the moto g itself.
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correct me if i am wrong but isnt that the moto g itself.
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Indeed, it's the Moto G itself
It would be interesting to see a lower powered nexus like device, they were originally released for developers, but I guess with such a big market of lower end devices most apps need to be able to run on moto g hardware (if that makes sense)
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??? Moto g gexp?
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I don't like Nexus phone
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I don't like Nexus phone
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Do you have the moto g? Its basically a nexus experience phone
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If Moto G becomes a great success then maybe in March or April they may release Moto G+ with Custom Moto Chip like Moto X and 2 or 1.5 Gig of RAM . What do you all think
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If Moto G becomes a great success then maybe in March or April they may release Moto G+ with Custom Moto Chip like Moto X and 2 or 1.5 Gig of RAM . What do you all think
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To my surprise the MotoG performs very well with its current "powerhouse"...
Was a bit sceptic when learned it uses Snapdragon 400, but 4core (same processor is in the S4Mini, but Mini comes with 2core version!)
The battery rocks!!! Really happy with the phone so far, as even with lower spec it puts behind top-dogs like S3 LTE,Sony SP...
Despite all pros, I still wrote to Santa about Nexus 5
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To my surprise the MotoG performs very well with its current "powerhouse"...
Was a bit sceptic when learned it uses Snapdragon 400, but 4core (same processor is in the S4Mini, but Mini comes with 2core version!)
The battery rocks!!! Really happy with the phone so far, as even with lower spec it puts behind top-dogs like S3 LTE,Sony SP...
Despite all pros, I still wrote to Santa about Nexus 5
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Snapdragon 400 in MotoG and S4Mini aren't the same:
MotoG has a quadcore cortex A7 and,
S4Mini has dualcore Krait processor
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Snapdragon 400 in MotoG and S4Mini aren't the same:
MotoG has a quadcore cortex A7 and,
S4Mini has dualcore Krait processor
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Aright mate, my bad :crying:
Anyway, they're both Snapdragon 400
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Aright mate, my bad :crying:
Anyway, they're both Snapdragon 400
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So the S4Mini CPU in the chipset (ie Snapdragon400 ) is of Qualcom architecture the Krait
and in Moto G the CPU is of ARM architecture the Cortex A7
So this is the mod Moto did I can't remember any phone with this Chip , if anyone does please tell
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So the S4Mini CPU in the chipset (ie Snapdragon400 ) is of Qualcom architecture the Krait
and in Moto G the CPU is of ARM architecture the Cortex A7
So this is the mod Moto did I can't remember any phone with this Chip , if anyone does please tell
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Considering Qualcomm knows which device use their processors, none had the MSM8x26 quad-core A7 1.2GHz (Adreno 305 450MHz GPU) before Moto G
Moto is quite a innovator ( well, they invented mobile so no doubts about that ! ) they are not fools to release there first ever international release after becoming "A Google Company" as a 'Experiment' so they are 100% Sure about its Hardware and how it should be the Best and even be a Beast with the support of Vanilla Android. Even then it will not be easy to place it at numero Uno considering it's Price tag.
As Moto is targeting the greater percentage of customers round the globe by releasing a cheap phone best in it's class now Moto mat thing of creating a King of all Phones with Mind-Blowing Specs and Amazing OS experience with something that will become there trade-mark.
There are lots of hopes from my side towards Motorola just because they created the mobile and they created very great phones in past and main reason for such faith is also the fact that MOTO is now a Google company so I want to see the masterpiece of the MOTO-GOOGLE
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Moto is quite a innovator ( well, they invented mobile so no doubts about that ! ) they are not fools to release there first ever international release after becoming "A Google Company" as a 'Experiment' so they are 100% Sure about its Hardware and how it should be the Best and even be a Beast with the support of Vanilla Android. Even then it will not be easy to place it at numero Uno considering it's Price tag.
As Moto is targeting the greater percentage of customers round the globe by releasing a cheap phone best in it's class now Moto mat thing of creating a King of all Phones with Mind-Blowing Specs and Amazing OS experience with something that will become there trade-mark.
There are lots of hopes from my side towards Motorola just because they created the mobile and they created very great phones in past and main reason for such faith is also the fact that MOTO is now a Google company so I want to see the masterpiece of the MOTO-GOOGLE
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Even Shakespear couldn't wrote it better than you did
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Considering Qualcomm knows which device use their processors, none had the MSM8x26 quad-core A7 1.2GHz (Adreno 305 450MHz GPU) before Moto G
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A bit confused about info on that link in your post... It states that S3 Mini uses Snapdragon 400, but as far as I know it used some NovaThor 8500 (made by Ericsson, but the venture is gone anyway)...
Thanks for the compliment aspot72 and BTW you are right about S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8190_galaxy_s_iii_mini-5033.php I don't know why Qualcom had it on there site, maybe there are some with snap 400 ?
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Thanks for the compliment aspot72 and BTW you are right about S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8190_galaxy_s_iii_mini-5033.php I don't know why Qualcom had it on there site, maybe there are some with snap 400 ?
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i wouldn't be surprised : Samsung did build two or more devices with same name (but different codename) with different SoCs, in addition, i found an article about an AT&T specific SIII Mini Powered by a snapdragon 400
No surprise , it's the kind of trick Samsung plays to earn money .