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I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
I always have 90-110M ram
I've got AutoKiller set to aggressive, leaves me with about 100mb free. More than enough, imo.
I read somewhere that using task managers to kill apps ends them in an... improper way? Might want to look into AutoKiller instead ;o
steffe.jst said:
I've got AutoKiller set to aggressive, leaves me with about 100mb free. More than enough, imo.
I read somewhere that using task managers to kill apps ends them in an... improper way? Might want to look into AutoKiller instead ;o
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quite right, they interfere with androids memory management and can in fact actually cause slowdowns. Android like most modern operating systems have pretty good memory management and things that try and take that role over usually just end up causing issues.
I was using aggressive but have moved to strict and find that just as good, the lower you can go the better really.
Free memory is really wasted memory in modern OS's.
If the device constantly has 60MB free ram, i dont really see the real benefit of it having 200MB of ram.. i mean i expect it to perform the same since it is not running out of ram yet.
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If the device constantly has 60MB free ram, i dont really see the real benefit of it having 200MB of ram.. i mean i expect it to perform the same since it is not running out of ram yet.
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Trouble is, if you go too low on this device it becomes very laggy. As I type this I am down to 42mb and the thing is a dog!
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quite right, they interfere with androids memory management and can in fact actually cause slowdowns. Android like most modern operating systems have pretty good memory management and things that try and take that role over usually just end up causing issues.
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What makes me wonder if you let Android do everything on its own (eg. not close applications until more ram is needed), isn't the CPU used a lot more? Some programs aren't just on standby when not used afaik.
I reckon you're doing exactly the opposite. See, unless the app has service like functions it's unlikely to be using any clock cycles when onPause or onStop functions has been called.
On the other hand, if you simply kill an app the entire process of loading parts of app into RAM will have to be executed again, should you decide to start the app up again.
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I reckon you're doing exactly the opposite. See, unless the app has service like functions it's unlikely to be using any clock cycles when onPause or onStop functions has been called.
On the other hand, if you simply kill an app the entire process of loading parts of app into RAM will have to be executed again, should you decide to start the app up again.
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If the app does have services running which are doing things like maintaining a database, syncing with servers, etc. then force closing these background tasks may corrupt databases and cause other problems. The services are probably set up to auto start as well, so they will just come right back and use up battery+cpu reinitializing.
Also, you don't need 200mb of ram free when your phone isn't doing anything. If you do launch something that needs 200mb of ram, then your phone will kill off everything it needs (in this order-> apps without any windows, background windows, background services).
Also, most people will use the same apps (email, phone, etc) throughout the day, and only occasionally launch new apps. If you follow this usage, and you use a task killer, then every time you go into email, the email application has to fully restart which costs you battery, disk acces, etc.
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
Adevem said:
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
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You possibly have something on a high refresh interval, which is waking the phone throughout the night to sync. I was having this problem when I frist installed twitter as it ended up on a 15min refresh. I now have everything on the same refresh cycle, 3hrs I think, and now the phone is pretty much fully charged still in the morning.
impossible, I've for every syncs I know set to off. but I've flashed samset and all that good stuff so I shall monitor over the days!
My average is about 150 too , some times even 200
I have never seen 200MB of free MB. About 150 is the maximum I can get up to right now.
Still, why does the android OS use up so much RAM?
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I have never seen 200MB of free MB. About 150 is the maximum I can get up to right now.
Still, why does the android OS use up so much RAM?
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Because it can.
Aslong as there's enough free ram (determined by values alterable with AutoKiller) Android won't close applications/services for the simple reason that "Free RAM is wasted RAM". The only "benefit" of having tons of free RAM is epeen factor and possibly sometimes if you happen to load up a very RAM heavy game.
Note the "possibly sometimes"
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My average is about 150 too , some times even 200
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My most often available RAM if I leave things untouched and see 20+ programs running is about 80mb. If/when I am using ATK (I use manual mode), I see about 150, but 50+ goes into my UI combo (LauncherPro + Quickdesk + WidgetLocker + Widgets)
Adevem said:
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
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I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
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Two biggest things that kill my battery when I'm not "using" the device is sync and ATK. Do not use ATK at night, no matter what, it's essentially wasted. IMO, for typical users there is also more costs associated with autosync during the night than benefits (cost = battery life, and a tiny bit of bandwidth... benefit = having the info available when you turn ur screen on rather than waiting less than 5 mins to get said info).
What ATK essentially does is take the phone out of an idle mode, run the processor to clear up memory. Then, Android does it's thing and opens more programs, recreating the need and a vicious cycle of close-open-close-open where you are using processor that is completely unnecessary. It sounds like you already have your answers and solution from this thread, but I'm just here to reaffirm your belief.
I'm also a bit of a RAM queen, but I only use ATK in the following two scenarios:
1) I'm about to do some heavy tasks (usually gaming, sometimes a GPS tracking)
2) I've just synced and updated to the marketplace (everything under the sun has launched and I just want to see them closed.
In both of these scenarios I actually kill ATK as well, I open it back up and see about 180mb of free RAM (and as I've said, I have about 50mb dedicated to my custom UI).
- Unrooted SHW-m110s, Korean, Galaxy S (waiting for FroYo).
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I'm also a bit of a RAM queen, but I only use ATK in the following two scenarios:
1) I'm about to do some heavy tasks (usually gaming, sometimes a GPS tracking)
2) I've just synced and updated to the marketplace (everything under the sun has launched and I just want to see them closed.
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I'm curious if this helps you at all - if I run ATK to kill tasks before starting a game, the game launches maybe 1-2 seconds quicker, but actually running ATK to kill the tasks takes 5+ seconds. Once I'm inside a game/benchmark, my fps seems to be identical.
Do you see the same thing? If so, why do you use ATK?
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
Adevem said:
I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
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AllGamer said:
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
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326mb as reported by atk ?
AllGamer said:
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
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Sure you're not looking at total RAM available? 'Cause that's the number I see when I go into Samsung's Task Manager (X/326MB).
Also jg9? I must've missed something
Has anyone else noticed that the tips and tricks suggest turning the phone off once a day "like a powerful computer"
I never turn my desktop off just cause its a new day.
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I guess its to stop rogue apps misbehaving, like a fresh start each day
I will try it out to see if it makes any difference in my performance, even if it is minor.
my PC is almost never off. (although I probably should turn it off)... my Atrix gets rebooted about once every other day? That's only when I remember it and when it seems a little laggy.
then again, the phone also reboots on its on sometimes. lol
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my PC is almost never off. (although I probably should turn it off)... my Atrix gets rebooted about once every other day? That's only when I remember it and when it seems a little laggy.
then again, the phone also reboots on its on sometimes. lol
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Self ram cleaning feature? At least it reboots, rather than simply shut down randomly....
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Has anyone else noticed that the tips and tricks suggest turning the phone off once a day "like a powerful computer"
I never turn my desktop off just cause its a new day.
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Yep, I've seen it too, but I don't do it every day. It's funny that Motorola is recommending it
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everyday is overkill, but occasionally is a good idea, on any computer type device. I leave my laptop on 24/7, but a reboot once every couple weeks does it good. Same goes for the phone, i usually reboot once a week or so.
I have to do it anyway every other day because of loss of data connectivity;-)
If you guys haven't noticed, there is a lot of memory leakage in the Android platform, therefore a reboot once everyday would help out with performance. Just watch your memory usage (ram) as the day goes by and for those of you who use task killers (which are really necessary anymore if you're running 2.2 and above), you'll see that even though you kill some tasks and do recover some memory (ram), a short while later your memory will start getting lesser and lesser. The reason for this is because most apps are kept in a long-lived reference to contexts, so switching between/among apps will be faster.
The only real way to combat this is to reboot your phone everyday (if you're a heavy user) or once in every few days if you don't really use your phone that much.
just like a PC, it depends on what's running. If you have some piss poor app that leaks memory like a colander then you'll be best served by rebooting regularly (or dumping the app).
Yep it may be sometimes an idiot tip but I have gone through a battery drainage from about 80% to less than 5% during a night
I have a habit to turn on airplane mode at night hence I opened The task manager and found that the browser having been occupying the CPU of 55% all over the night
so the tip might seem useful
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I wonder if it would help solve the random reboot problem.
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Sometimes I do it twice a day. It definitely performs faster at first then it does later on.
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Funny thing is that as I was reading this thread, my phone which was plugged to the charger beside me all of sudden decided to reboot...
Hello All,
Apologies if this is a duplicate or posted at an incorrect location.
I got ICS for my Note two days ago and here's what I've noticed:
Battery usage has increased: The battery seems to run out faster now. For e.g. during night (8 hours) the battery gets reduced by 6%, which was not the case earlier
Performance slightly slower: The phone performace has dropped a notch.
Running apps: The strangest thing which I've noticed is that almost all apps now run in the background, even the ones which I dont use daily. I need to go to Downloads to 'Force Stop' them.
I request you all to share your findings as well.
Thanks,
yeah me too..
On the stock ICS releases what you have observed seems to be the case. Under normal circumstances the advise would be a factory reset but DO NOT! do this as there is a risk of bricking your phone.
Battery life to me is the same maybe slightly better, performance is stupidly better than it was on gb. Having said that I did wipe via mobile odin then in factory reset menu in settings menu when ics booted so I had a totally clean install. But I wouldn't advise that going off the brick bug.
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Hello All,
Apologies if this is a duplicate or posted at an incorrect location.
I got ICS for my Note two days ago and here's what I've noticed:
Battery usage has increased: The battery seems to run out faster now. For e.g. during night (8 hours) the battery gets reduced by 6%, which was not the case earlier
Performance slightly slower: The phone performace has dropped a notch.
Running apps: The strangest thing which I've noticed is that almost all apps now run in the background, even the ones which I dont use daily. I need to go to Downloads to 'Force Stop' them.
I request you all to share your findings as well.
Thanks,
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Actually ICS is good at memory usage. those apps that you dont use might be starting with boot, try to disable them.
Also in the development mode in setting u can limit the number of apps that can run in the background.
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On the stock ICS releases what you have observed seems to be the case. Under normal circumstances the advise would be a factory reset but DO NOT! do this as there is a risk of bricking your phone.
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I have read quite a few about this bug but still quite confused so once and for all, If I was on stock ROM all the way (no rooting done) and updated to stock ICS, would I still risk to brick my phone if I factory reset?
I'm using the German version, rooted to install titanium app and Gemini app to freeze and prevent apps from auto starting. Battery life is excellent, about 1% drain overnight with phone shut down.
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after the initial boot with no apps installed at all the battery and the ram consumption seems to be good and by that i mean better multitasking. all apps start almost instantly.. but with having a few apps installed the battery seems to be draining faster than usual and will drain completely by the end of the day with moderate usage.. gb used to give me atleast a day and a half of battery and max two days with the same usage stats.. i'm beginning to wonder if this is how ics was built..!!?
Ok, so I figured that the battery was draining as the phone was not going into 'deep-sleep' mode. I was able to fix that using instructions at the below URL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1507905.html
Battery life seems to be normal now.
Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....
Haven't used a task killer in a long time. I looked out of curiosity and there is a massive laundry list of extra crap going on.
bishaarcc said:
Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....
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Thanks for the info. Can you please tell us what apps you were able to remove to cause the excellent battery life? In the order starting with the one that uses the most to least if you can. Appreciate any help you can post from your testing. Thanks
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Thanks for the info. Can you please tell us what apps you were able to remove to cause the excellent battery life? In the order starting with the one that uses the most to least if you can. Appreciate any help you can post from your testing. Thanks
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Well, twospirits made this list of all apps https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...OksNUB7oHFBsI_OoEQHgeGg7_l4/edit#gid=32644709
So what I did is: I categorized my apps in to three categories: 1- Apps that cannot be removed nor disabled, like Bluetooth speaker and etc so kept those as it is.. 2- the second group are necessary apps like Google play, browser sms,dialer and etc.. so I moved those apps to EX Sdcard, the only exception is youtube which gives me FC, so it has to be in the system..
3- the 3rd category is the rest of the apps which I removed from my phone, like S Health knock and other hundreds...
Now I have almost 2gb availabe memory on my phone which I think it's very good, and that's the reason I'm getting one day of very high usage or two days of normal usage....
Please check my screen shosts, almost two days with 5 hours of Screen On time or 7+ hours in one day....
Thanks for the info. I will work on removing apps that I don't use from the list and see what improvement I can get.
Just wanted to explain a few things.
1) moving apps to external SD Card will not free up RAM. It frees up internal memory (/sdcard or /data) but should not affect RAM.
2) unused RAM is wasted RAM. In this case you are saving battery because some of the apps you deleted were using CPU cycles or keeping wake locks for some reason. The amount of energy used to keep an app in RAM may get you a few extra hours of battery life at most. Your biggest 3 battery killers are Screen, Modem, CPU. In that order.
So good job getting better battery life, and I'm going to be using that list to delete some crapware. But your conclusions in why you saved battery life are a bit off.
Ok this is what everyone in this thread should do before they comment on memory usage,
1. N910C or N910F (Snapdragon or Exynos?)
2. Debloat or not, all apps active (stock)?
3. Debloat with root?
4. How much time without reboot, test of memory usage with or without reboot?
5. Screenshots of disabled apps section of your storage
Me,
1. N910C
2. Debloat, disabled quite a bit services/apps
3. No root
4. Fresh reboot, just now, test of memory usage = 1.52Gb only Wi Fi File Explorer in background.
5. Turned off apps,
Please, i know every device is different but try to follow my little Q & A, in order to get a general idea how much memory does you device use.
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Ok this is what everyone in this thread should do before they comment on memory usage,
1. N910C or N910F (Snapdragon or Exynos?)
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Youre in a N910P thread, bud.
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Youre in a N910P thread, bud.
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Well still counts i guess lol
dazed1 said:
Well still counts i guess lol
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Fair enough, its just that people who search by device+problem get brought to threads that detect whats been typed and they get brought to the wrong place looking for help where they cant be helped. . Turn that frown upside down!
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Fair enough, its just that people who search by device+problem get brought to threads that detect whats been typed and they get brought to the wrong place looking for help where they cant be helped. . Turn that frown upside down!
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Can you do a test for me bro? just reboot the phone, and tell me how much ram is used, and what apps are running? (turn off anything you can) thanks.
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Can you do a test for me bro? just reboot the phone, and tell me how much ram is used, and what apps are running? (turn off anything you can) thanks.
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Hotboot plus screenies. Forgot about Turned Offs.
Not much in the Turned Offs. A lot was deleted of either .bak'd
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Hotboot plus screenies. Forgot about Turned Offs.
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What? 1.1GB? rooted phone with total debloat?
dazed1 said:
What? 1.1GB? rooted phone with total debloat?
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Pretty much. But coming from the SGSIII. Ive actually kept a lot of Samsung bloat that id usually delete. Mostly because of its features. Ive spared SprintZone even. Just a nice smooth phone overall.
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Just wanted to explain a few things.
1) moving apps to external SD Card will not free up RAM. It frees up internal memory (/sdcard or /data) but should not affect RAM.
2) unused RAM is wasted RAM. In this case you are saving battery because some of the apps you deleted were using CPU cycles or keeping wake locks for some reason. The amount of energy used to keep an app in RAM may get you a few extra hours of battery life at most. Your biggest 3 battery killers are Screen, Modem, CPU. In that order.
So good job getting better battery life, and I'm going to be using that list to delete some crapware. But your conclusions in why you saved battery life are a bit off.
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Sir, First of all I'm not a dev, and probably you know more than me about these things but let me ask you this:
Even though I've already deleted unnecessary apps from my phone, but still I was using 70-80% of my phone's memory all the time, and my battery life was one day or less than that .....
I decided to move all my apps to ex-Sdcard which made me using only 30-50%, of my phone's memory and the battery life from one day to two days!
So since you said moving apps to EX-sdcard won't make difference, could you explain to me this situation?
Please go ahead and check my screenshot, I'm watching MKBHD'S full hd video and I'm only using 37% of my phone's memory.
Thanks again.
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Sir, First of all I'm not a dev, and probably you know more than me about these things but let me ask you this:
Even though I've already deleted unnecessary apps from my phone, but still I was using 70-80% of my phone's memory all the time, and my battery life was one day or less than that .....
I decided to move all my apps to ex-Sdcard which made me using only 30-50%, of my phone's memory and the battery life from one day to two days!
So since you said moving apps to EX-sdcard won't make difference, could you explain to me this situation?
Please go ahead and check my screenshot, I'm watching MKBHD'S full hd video and I'm only using 37% of my phone's memory.
Thanks again.
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Were you perhaps plugged into a computer? You lose the ability to use SD Card apps when plugged in.
I'm definitely not a dev, I just know electronics and a bit of basic computing theory.
Using less RAM shouldn't save that much battery. What may have happened is one (or more) of the apps were auto-starting and using CPU cycles to do something not important to you. I'm not sure if SD Card apps can auto start or restart.
Like I said the information you provided is good, just the comclusion of less RAM means better battery is off. Well programed apps should sit in RAM for quick access but not waste CPU cyles on things.
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Were you perhaps plugged into a computer? You lose the ability to use SD Card apps when plugged in.
I'm definitely not a dev, I just know electronics and a bit of basic computing theory.
Using less RAM shouldn't save that much battery. What may have happened is one (or more) of the apps were auto-starting and using CPU cycles to do something not important to you. I'm not sure if SD Card apps can auto start or restart.
Like I said the information you provided is good, just the comclusion of less RAM means better battery is off. Well programed apps should sit in RAM for quick access but not waste CPU cyles on things.
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You right, I think maybe EXsdcard apps won't auto start and that's what saves my battery. When I check my running apps I cannot see any user apps in there, no facebook, what's up, Browser or any other user apps, so maybe that's is the case.... The only down side of my situation is that I have to manually open Facebook to see latest notifications which honestly I don't mind it because I don't need facebook and twitter running 24/7?
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Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play.
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You should NOT be using task killers on Android! Advanced Task Killer, or any task killer, will shorten your battery life instead of extending it. Android actually knows how to handle itself quite well, and will keep certain things around for a reason. Google created Android and just might know Android a little bit better than those 3rd party app developers.
Also, I see in your other posts you keep calling a micro-sd card an ExSdCard. If you think about it, "Ex"SdCard would actually mean "Previous"SdCard. It's called ExtSdCard, meaning Extended SD card. And FYI, there is no Android Market anymore, it was replaced by Play Store years ago.
All of the sudden my AT&T V20 (H910) is getting huge overheating issues. The phone's battey drains in less than 2 hours and it gets very sluggish doing anything. Many apps are just freezing up. I had to pull the ****ing battery just a little bit ago, it was just completely frozen. CPU-Z shows that the CPU is constantly at 100% and that it's always at 40 C or hotter.
I feel like this is probably being caused by an app but I am having a hard time finding something that will show me what is using the CPU. Is there a "task manager" app that will show me what is hitting my CPU? CCleaner does not show CPU. CPU-Z only shows me that it's at 100%, not which apps are utilizing it, making it just useless to me. Surely there must be a way to show what is hogging up the CPU, like in the Windows Task Manager.
Lol, of course now it's back to normal again. It's been doing this off and on for days now. I feel like it must be an app that's causing this.
Boxfreind said:
Lol, of course now it's back to normal again. It's been doing this off and on for days now. I feel like it must be an app that's causing this.
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Waze did that to my v20.. it still does.
google service is the one often going berserk in my case. every time I experience some weird excessive battery drain I know I have to go and take care of that little mustard. usually reinstalling updates does the trick
Boxfreind said:
All of the sudden my AT&T V20 (H910) is getting huge overheating issues. The phone's battey drains in less than 2 hours and it gets very sluggish doing anything. Many apps are just freezing up. I had to pull the ****ing battery just a little bit ago, it was just completely frozen. CPU-Z shows that the CPU is constantly at 100% and that it's always at 40 C or hotter.
I feel like this is probably being caused by an app but I am having a hard time finding something that will show me what is using the CPU. Is there a "task manager" app that will show me what is hitting my CPU? CCleaner does not show CPU. CPU-Z only shows me that it's at 100%, not which apps are utilizing it, making it just useless to me. Surely there must be a way to show what is hogging up the CPU, like in the Windows Task Manager.
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I had huge similar issues. One thing that contributed was the offline Google maps in the SD card. I deleted them all and only downloaded my local area in the phone's memory. No problems since.
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buongu said:
google service is the one often going berserk in my case. every time I experience some weird excessive battery drain I know I have to go and take care of that little mustard. usually reinstalling updates does the trick
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By google service you mean the big G app ? that thing can be doing any number of things of which one got triggered for some reason