"Reboot once a day" - Atrix 4G General

Has anyone else noticed that the tips and tricks suggest turning the phone off once a day "like a powerful computer"
I never turn my desktop off just cause its a new day.
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I guess its to stop rogue apps misbehaving, like a fresh start each day

I will try it out to see if it makes any difference in my performance, even if it is minor.

my PC is almost never off. (although I probably should turn it off)... my Atrix gets rebooted about once every other day? That's only when I remember it and when it seems a little laggy.
then again, the phone also reboots on its on sometimes. lol

s1mpd1ddy said:
my PC is almost never off. (although I probably should turn it off)... my Atrix gets rebooted about once every other day? That's only when I remember it and when it seems a little laggy.
then again, the phone also reboots on its on sometimes. lol
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Self ram cleaning feature? At least it reboots, rather than simply shut down randomly....

blindguyinanorgy said:
Has anyone else noticed that the tips and tricks suggest turning the phone off once a day "like a powerful computer"
I never turn my desktop off just cause its a new day.
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Yep, I've seen it too, but I don't do it every day. It's funny that Motorola is recommending it
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everyday is overkill, but occasionally is a good idea, on any computer type device. I leave my laptop on 24/7, but a reboot once every couple weeks does it good. Same goes for the phone, i usually reboot once a week or so.

I have to do it anyway every other day because of loss of data connectivity;-)

If you guys haven't noticed, there is a lot of memory leakage in the Android platform, therefore a reboot once everyday would help out with performance. Just watch your memory usage (ram) as the day goes by and for those of you who use task killers (which are really necessary anymore if you're running 2.2 and above), you'll see that even though you kill some tasks and do recover some memory (ram), a short while later your memory will start getting lesser and lesser. The reason for this is because most apps are kept in a long-lived reference to contexts, so switching between/among apps will be faster.
The only real way to combat this is to reboot your phone everyday (if you're a heavy user) or once in every few days if you don't really use your phone that much.

just like a PC, it depends on what's running. If you have some piss poor app that leaks memory like a colander then you'll be best served by rebooting regularly (or dumping the app).

Yep it may be sometimes an idiot tip but I have gone through a battery drainage from about 80% to less than 5% during a night
I have a habit to turn on airplane mode at night hence I opened The task manager and found that the browser having been occupying the CPU of 55% all over the night
so the tip might seem useful
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I wonder if it would help solve the random reboot problem.
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Sometimes I do it twice a day. It definitely performs faster at first then it does later on.
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Funny thing is that as I was reading this thread, my phone which was plugged to the charger beside me all of sudden decided to reboot...

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3rd day with phone, 2 self resets already

Ok, so what happenned on the 2 instances that this happenned was all of a sudden I lost cellular signal and the phone made a sound and the signal bars switched to a circular sign with the line across it. I put the phone in airplane mode but nothing happenned, within a min phone restarted it self...
The phone is stock. No root or anything like that.
Ps... using the keyboard to type this, and its much easier compard to my old droids kb.
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Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
Just did it again when I went into pandora. I realized its actually not resetting, but the phone freezes up and everything reloads. Including signal and 3G... the screen shutz off and you can't turn it back on until it reloads
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I had the same problem with mine. I exchanged it for another one and have had no problems since
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Damn. Just when I get it the way I wanted it... Ugh...
What exactly was yours doing big jim?
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Your second thread mention "problems" you have with your phone. Go to a Sprint store.
I agree exchange it urs must be defective. A couple others have hd same issue.
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I had the same problem on my original Epic. I had three problems in total on that phone.
Samsung's crap coding that caused the phone to not sleep. (fixed after 2nd update)
The phone would randomly restart itself
During calls, the screen would freeze while illuminated. The call wasn't interrupted, but aftwards I had to pull the battery.
In the end I had to exchange the phone for another. Only problem was, the new phone had that couple millimeter gap with the slider. Sprint said it wasn't enough for third exchange though.
Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
I'm gonna give it 1 more week see what happens, then return perhaps for another epic. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking to the epic though, i really like the camera capabilities of the phone.
I'm actually going to run 4 tests this week
I'm going to leave the phone untouched from 10:00 to 21:00 and note the percentage in battery with juice defender on/off and also noLED on/off, see what happens... to make it even, i'll just leave the phone in my car, and it won't be used except it's usual email checking/texts/missed calls etc.
my droid unused for that period of time usually was around 80%. it was running a custom rom with 1 ghz kernel as well, so same power requirements i'd say. except epic has a bigger battery.
Battery is pretty bad with the Epic but Im not surprised at all about that. I have about 50% right now with heavy texting, a few phone calls, and listening to music. 8hrs unplugged. I think it would make it to 14-15 hrs easy with heavy use.
Phone calls kill the battery the most I believe.
And I'm using Juice Defender.
Mine was dying with heavy texting, some GPS and browsing within 6-7 hours, no phone calls....
I did a little test today.
When I'm at the police academy my phone is in my car from 1000 to 2100. My rooted 1ghz droid would be at 80% by 2100. it'd get it's regular share of texting/emails and all that I couldn't look at until 2100.
I did the same thing today with the Epic, with juice defender, it was at 79%, so pretty much exactly the same...
tomorrow I'll do the same test with JD off and see if it makes a diff
HI
razorseal said:
Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
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Use titanium backup and u can restore all ur apps n settings in a jif
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I have just installed Juice Defender (free version) and using it as installed. I'll see if it helps. I have a question about the status of TRAFFIC, it is listed as "Leave Data/WiFi enabled while >50KB/15s", what does this mean? I can guess that JD will leave the Data connection ON, even if it is scheduled OFF, if the phone is sending/receiving data at a rate greater than 50KB/15s. Is this close?
Thanks
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othan1 said:
Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
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Mine has been doing this every once in awhile. Even in a good signal area, its like the radio randomly decides to reset. I'm currently trying to see if its a software or hardware thing.
Sadly the modem was backported from the samsung moment. It has only partof it power managment system in it it will befixed swhen froyo comes
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I am having the same problem with my phone suddenly. If I have multiple apps open, such as radio, browser, and facebook at the same time, it seems to cause it to reset itself. It's not a full hard reset, but more of a soft one, screen goes black and everything starts up as if the phone was just turned on.
Maybe it's time for a replacement?

Losing battery at about 8-10% every hour on idle

Hey everyone,
My phone was doing great with the battery life until recently. It might have been some app that got an update that effed me up, but not using my phone all day, I lose battery real fast.
Not sure what's going on, but it's dying real fast!
Any ideas or help?
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My phone did that from day one practically. I honestly thought it was expected. Later I scrapped all of my apps and reformatted basically. That's when my battery life became amazing. I'd suggest checking all apps for excessive syncing issues. I am pretty sure my culprit was Yahoo Mail. I've since switched to GMail with a bookmark to yahoo if I need to check it.
Hopefully you can find out which app is frying your phone. Good luck.
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You say you basically reformatted...would you post what you did exactly? I've got the same issue as the op.
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I was having the same problem a few days ago. I wiped all data and did a factory reset. After restoring apps only (not data), my battery is running like a champ again!
Battery was so bad that it was leaking 1%/minute, it seemed like.
Are you guys checking spare parts, which gives you battery usage stats? It's free on the market. Also, do you get poor coverage in that particular area? Constant searching for service def causes battery drain as well.
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You guys never mentioned if you did the airplane mode trick and killed the DRM service. Mine drains about that fast if I forget to do those. Even if I do remember to do them, it still drains much faster than it should but at least I can make it through a whole day if I don't play any games.
in the froyo 2.2 betas they have out for the Epic, there's an option to disable data along with airplane mode and shutdown when you long press the power button. You can still get calls and texts when you disable data..
I thought its a neat feature. It should help you if you're running a 2.2 beta rom.
I think the huge drain is linked to the 50% no signal bug. I would always come home from school with a nearly dead phone every day. I began putting it into airplane mode every once in a while to combat the signal bug and now I come home with 70% left.
arashed31 said:
I think the huge drain is linked to the 50% no signal bug. I would always come home from school with a nearly dead phone every day. I began putting it into airplane mode every once in a while to combat the signal bug and now I come home with 70% left.
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Same here. I go somewhere on sat mornings where I don't get service (and don't need my phone). If I don't put it in airplane mode, I'll easily lose 30% in that hr and a half.
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Overheating

This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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steve228uk said:
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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Good point, where can I check the power intake?
Thanks
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Mine got really hot the first day I used it (27/4)...I was just checking out features and installing a few apps. I rebooted it after the battery was fully charged and it's been fine ever since.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
shohid1234 said:
I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
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No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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And i thought i was alone...
It gets really hot sometimes though, not to the extent of burnt plastic smell but it gets pretty uncomfortable touching around lens at the back.
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
For example this was a ADB shell top taken while running Cordy downclocked to 800MHz in setcpu. The phone was a tiny bit warm but only by the camera (where the CPU is). Basically, this just shows that if you are playing a game, nothing else is going on so the CPU shouldn't be going up to 1200MHz. And it plays the same as when it isn't underclocked.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
Fysi said:
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
BoogWeed said:
My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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Do you have root and Titanium/MyBackup Pro?
If you do, freeze anything that mentions wifi sharing, unless you are going to use wifi hotspot and kies air a lot.
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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SgtDutchyNL said:
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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Or with some specific games.
cmd512 said:
Find the nearest Apple store near you.
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LMAO
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hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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that's just not true.
Mine gets hot aswell .. it's random sometimes but usualy with playing games etc. I suspect it has something to do with the samsung drivers/software and not our tinkering.
Bugs bugs bugs...
Mine also gets fairly hot, which might be a little uncomfortable - but that's the sacrifice you make when you get such a high powered device in such a small space.
Well,amount of apps/tinkering/etc has nothing to do with the phone getting got UNLESS an installed app in messing something up.I have heard many such cases when a rogue app made the CPU run at 100% in different phones.If that's the case you have to find and remove the app.I'd suggest OS monitor for finding it.Never happened to me though!
What's more,it's normal for it to get more hot than your average phone,as it carries more power under the hood and has nothing to help it dissipate the generated heat,as it's plastic.The Desire HD does a very good job with managing heat and I have never exceeded 40 C,even when gaming with an overclock at 1.8GHz and performance governor.Not saying the DHD is better,but Samsung wouldn't have left something like this if it would damage the phone.So I tend to believe that it's designed to get hot.
Mine has overheated twice.
Both times, when trying to pair itself automatically to my car kit. The phone got really really hot (i noticed it warming my leg in my jeans pocket) and needed the battery pulling out to reset it. When it started back up, the running temp was nearly 50 degrees (in standby, it runs at about 27)
Hasn't done it since though, just keeping my eye on it!

[POLL] How often do you reboot?

I know, it's not Windows, but is it a good idea from time to time to reboot manually? Would we have any benefit from doing this?
Personally, I reboot only when I really have to, for making backup, or when I install anything on system level that requires rebooting. My system is solid and stable and if anything hangs, simple selective app killing solved everything so far.
I was on CM7, and Neutrino earlier and was very satisfied with both of them, but then I bought lapdock so I switched to Nottachtrix. I had no need to reboot manually with any of them. Maybe your mileage varies, and I'd like to hear your opinions.
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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Over 10 times a day, hardware problems causing random shutdowns all the day xD
Well, im running Th3Bill's MIUI 2.8.17 and i have to reboot the phone at least one time in the day because for random reasons, it loses internet acces, and i have to reboot it to get everything working again. Also when the camera goes crazy and when i open the app, says that can't connect to the camera. A reboot fixes that issue.
i'm using jokers CM9 and its been stable as a stable thing tied down to a really heavy stable object.
but i do reboot it 2 or 3 times a week - usually because i forget to put it on charge overnight and the battery dies
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Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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I have it automated to go to airplane mode in 11PM and it resumes in 7AM, that's about turning it off. I have it next to my bed, and sometimes I use it as a flashlight during the night. I love this flashlight app.
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Over 10 times a day, hardware problems causing random shutdowns all the day xD
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I should have included "Randomly. It reboots by itself." option in poll.
djluis48 said:
Well, im running Th3Bill's MIUI 2.8.17 and i have to reboot the phone at least one time in the day because for random reasons, it loses internet acces, and i have to reboot it to get everything working again. Also when the camera goes crazy and when i open the app, says that can't connect to the camera. A reboot fixes that issue.
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I remember stuck camera problem when I tested ... some of ROMs (can't remember which ones) and it was a deal breaker. You shuold reconsider your ROM-radio-kernel choice. I had best experience with Neutrino, regarding battery life, speed and stability. With Blur based Nottachtrix I lost CM goodies (which I really miss), some speed and battery life, but I gained Webtop functionality. However, Nottachtrix has proven to be stable and reliable.
I always reboot once a day regardless of its needed or not. My wife use to never reboot her inspire and she kept having freeze ups so I told her reboot once a day now hers seams to be doing a lot better.
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Well my touchscreen is broken so i need to pull the battery to hang up a phone call... going to replace it soon though.
andrew.cambridge said:
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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Exactly !
Dont know why people want their phones on 24/7 you're no president of your country
plus it might help i better battery and overall life of device
I reboot every morning after full charge. Clears up the RAM.
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Whatever happends, even if I run stock or any custom ROM, my data connection gets lost with time. Impossible to get it back without a reboot. So I reboot quite a LOT !
I reset almost every day since almost every day I'm flashing a new ROM, or returning a Nandroid. But many times, connection problems, or freezing apps, I managed to solve restart.
Basically never. =) never have any problems on thebills miui
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I reboot about once or twice a day but not because I want to, the dreaded random reboots have returned
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I reboot mainly when I f**k up an system file (last one was when I froze the blur launcher... it kept showing FC one after another..... adios battery! Hello bootscreen!
maajstor said:
I know, it's not Windows, but is it a good idea from time to time to reboot manually? Would we have any benefit from doing this?
Personally, I reboot only when I really have to, for making backup, or when I install anything on system level that requires rebooting. My system is solid and stable and if anything hangs, simple selective app killing solved everything so far.
I was on CM7, and Neutrino earlier and was very satisfied with both of them, but then I bought lapdock so I switched to Nottachtrix. I had no need to reboot manually with any of them. Maybe your mileage varies, and I'd like to hear your opinions.
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once a day
My intention is not to reboot ever .. but being on a beta ROM has its side-effects ..
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andrew.cambridge said:
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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I stopped thinking this way after 9/11. On 9/10, I went out drinking with friends and went to bed without shutting off my phone like I normally did. That morning my roommate and I were woken up by a call from a friend purely because of my mistake. Since then, I treat my phone like a landline.
Every Tuesday before I check for ICS update.
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everyday about 6~7 times.
yea it's not a windows but
reboot is not bad way to manage devices
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Sudden massive overheat/battery drain/sluggishness issue...

All of the sudden my AT&T V20 (H910) is getting huge overheating issues. The phone's battey drains in less than 2 hours and it gets very sluggish doing anything. Many apps are just freezing up. I had to pull the ****ing battery just a little bit ago, it was just completely frozen. CPU-Z shows that the CPU is constantly at 100% and that it's always at 40 C or hotter.
I feel like this is probably being caused by an app but I am having a hard time finding something that will show me what is using the CPU. Is there a "task manager" app that will show me what is hitting my CPU? CCleaner does not show CPU. CPU-Z only shows me that it's at 100%, not which apps are utilizing it, making it just useless to me. Surely there must be a way to show what is hogging up the CPU, like in the Windows Task Manager.
Lol, of course now it's back to normal again. It's been doing this off and on for days now. I feel like it must be an app that's causing this.
Boxfreind said:
Lol, of course now it's back to normal again. It's been doing this off and on for days now. I feel like it must be an app that's causing this.
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Waze did that to my v20.. it still does.
google service is the one often going berserk in my case. every time I experience some weird excessive battery drain I know I have to go and take care of that little mustard. usually reinstalling updates does the trick
Boxfreind said:
All of the sudden my AT&T V20 (H910) is getting huge overheating issues. The phone's battey drains in less than 2 hours and it gets very sluggish doing anything. Many apps are just freezing up. I had to pull the ****ing battery just a little bit ago, it was just completely frozen. CPU-Z shows that the CPU is constantly at 100% and that it's always at 40 C or hotter.
I feel like this is probably being caused by an app but I am having a hard time finding something that will show me what is using the CPU. Is there a "task manager" app that will show me what is hitting my CPU? CCleaner does not show CPU. CPU-Z only shows me that it's at 100%, not which apps are utilizing it, making it just useless to me. Surely there must be a way to show what is hogging up the CPU, like in the Windows Task Manager.
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I had huge similar issues. One thing that contributed was the offline Google maps in the SD card. I deleted them all and only downloaded my local area in the phone's memory. No problems since.
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buongu said:
google service is the one often going berserk in my case. every time I experience some weird excessive battery drain I know I have to go and take care of that little mustard. usually reinstalling updates does the trick
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By google service you mean the big G app ? that thing can be doing any number of things of which one got triggered for some reason

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