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ONDA V891W - 8.9 IPS FHD, Intel Z3735F 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 32GB SSD Windows 8.1 tablet

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Latest Windows tablet model from Onda - V891w.
Trending 8.9 inch design, Full HD screen (perfect resolution for Windows, not too low, but not too high, since Windows doesn't scale very well on higher Retina like resolutions).
Fast Intel Atom Quad core CPU with a very tempting price just around.
Onda V891w - Mod Edit: please do not post commercial links onto xda. Thanks!
Screen 8.9 inch IPS (1920 x 1200px)
CPU Intel Bay Trail Z3735F Quad Core 64Bit 1.83GHz
RAM 2GB
Capacity 32GB + MicroSD up to 128GB
System Windows 8.1
Battery 5000mAh
Size 241x169x8.9mm

I was looking at this at well,
it's like the only 9" windows tablet which i found overall (including non-chinese ones)
and then the specs, with high-res etc and the price, looks a bit too good to be true? its even way cheaper than other ondas.
the back reminds me of my dell venue 8 pro to be fair, but i really like the back there
on banggood it looks like first batch sold out already and they expect a second batch
tinydeal and pandawill still have it from what it looks like?
but i cant really find any experience reports on the net yet (except one russian youtube video, where he just shows it)

I think that resolution is going to make this a very slow device.
Looks great though., like the Dell

ebsbow said:
I think that resolution is going to make this a very slow device.
Looks great though., like the Dell
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what u mean with slow device?
as long as videoplay in that resolution works flawless, browsing and office software aswell, that would be sufficient for me

Bowsing is memory and gpu intensive. And at that reolution I'm guessing you want
to see 1080p contend and use other browser. Forget smoothness at that resolution on an Z3735G.
Just saying. Looks sweet though.
HoR77 said:
what u mean with slow device?
as long as videoplay in that resolution works flawless, browsing and office software aswell, that would be sufficient for me
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ebsbow said:
Bowsing is memory and gpu intensive. And at that reolution I'm guessing you want
to see 1080p contend and use other browser. Forget smoothness at that resolution on an Z3735G.
Just saying. Looks sweet though.
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it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed

Also not working and have 7 tabs open ? lucky number.
It's a Z3735F you mean, right? A Z3775 would be sweet but expensive.
You can always check devices with the same specs for there performance. Lots
of those.. A few at least.. all sluggish. Z3740 would even struggle.
HoR77 said:
it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed
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ebsbow said:
Also not working and have 7 tabs open ? lucky number.
It's a Z3735F you mean, right? A Z3775 would be sweet but expensive.
You can always check devices with the same specs for there performance. Lots
of those.. A few at least.. all sluggish. Z3740 would even struggle.
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yeah typo, wanted to point out the F instead of the D
i will have a look at that tomorrow, but u crushed my dreams already
but well better to find out before i buy it

crushed my dreams, seriously? If you dont like the answer then
dont go looking for it. This is still xda developers, not the kmart website...

ebsbow said:
crushed my dreams, seriously? If you dont like the answer then
dont go looking for it. This is still xda developers, not the kmart website...
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ment it with a lil bit of homour
at first glance this tablet looked perfect, good specs with perfect price, so i was really lookin forward to it
thats the reason i post here, to get some knowledge on things i dont understand (e.g. the intel processors and their performance)
i am obviously thankful for you help !

Just keep your viciousness in tact and you'll do fine.

So i did some research today and tried to look how the CPU is working, couldnt find anything useful there, so i tried finding a tablet/notebook which has the same CPU in it with a screen running same resolution aswell:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-Switch-10-Full-HD-Convertible-Review-Update.129800.0.html
From what i read here, it says basically that it isnt the fastest machine on earth, but that it's still running well and gets the job done?
Obviously not a gaming machine, but don't that 1080 videoplayback or normal surfing can't be done with it

HoR77 said:
it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed
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i have the Onda v975w. it has the z3735f cpu and it has a retina display (2,048 x 1,536). it plays 1080p perfectly, it could play 1080p video while web browsing without a hitch although a bit tight on screen space

Tonian1878 said:
i have the Onda v975w. it has the z3735f cpu and it has a retina display (2,048 x 1,536). it plays 1080p perfectly, it could play 1080p video while web browsing without a hitch although a bit tight on screen space
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i have Onda V975W too. Even 4k 60FPS youtube videos plays without a slightest hitch, that is the power of Intel QSV and Windows 8.1!
I will upload some videos later.
HoR77 said:
From what i read here, it says basically that it isnt the fastest machine on earth, but that it's still running well and gets the job done?
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No, it blows crap out of EVERY ANDROID and iPAD tablet ever made! Intel Bay trail chipset has more power than most budget notobooks from the previous year.
Intel subsides Bay Trail CPUs up to $50 each, just to beet crap out of competition and take market from ARM.
This tablet runs 4k video, it can even encode them and run older games like Counter Strike Source or Call of Duty 4 at playable FPS rate.

Seriously.. z3735f is an low end cpu..
Don't misinform people, sir.

ebsbow said:
Seriously.. z3735f is an low end cpu..
Don't misinform people, sir.
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Very nice advice, so why you don't use it more often?
Here is my video with the cheapest and most basic: 8 inch / Intel Atom Z3735G / 1GB RAM / 8GB SSD / Windows 8.1 tablet.

I should
Quick reminder, Z3735f is the most basic. G and D only differ in memory size.
Originalas said:
Very nice advice, so why you don't use it more often?
Here is my video with the cheapest and most basic: 8 inch / Intel Atom Z3735G / 1GB RAM / 8GB SSD / Windows 8.1 tablet.
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ebsbow said:
I should
Quick reminder, Z3735f is the most basic. G and D only differ in memory size.
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The Z3735G has one 32-bit memory channel, whereas the F has one 64-bit channel. The F has a max memory bandwidth of ~10.6GB/s, the G ~5.3GB/s.
If you have to choice between a F and a G then pick the F.

Yep, that's true. Can't argue with that..

My Onda has Z3735D and eStar Z3735G, but I haven't noticed any real difference. Maybe because both comes with Windows x86 or 32bit is still more than enough for 2GB RAM.
Both scores identical 67FPS in Counter Strike Source stress test.

PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1

UPDATE 8/1 2015
UNBOXING video:
REVIEW video:
3D GAMING, HDMI & WIRELESS DISPLAY TEST
Tips:
- To enter BIOS, connect keyboard via OTG, at boot start press ESC + CAPSLOCK
- To access advanced startup options in Windows 8 or 8.1, hold VOL down plus POWER
- Download latest display drivers here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24345
(especially do this update, if you have problems to wake the tablet from sleep sometimes, should fix it)
PiPO W2F Disassembly Pictures here
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6108053155867182961
Drivers:
http://pipo.cn/En/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&id=360&type=2
Want to use OTG and Charge it at the same time?
Then you need one of these
http://aliexpress.com/item/Universa...inkpad-8-X98-M80ta-WT-8-Miix2/2038609573.html
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Hey
What do you guys think about the PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1? I saw it to a nice price at Gearbest. It comes with 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM that seems to be okay for a 8 inch tablet. It also has support for HDMI and OTG which I find very important for a tablet.
Due to Chinese manufacturers, the market of mobile electronic devices overflowed by cheap Windows 8 tablets. Devices of well-known brands cannot compete with the same quality, but lower prices of Chinese products. The famous Hong Kong brand PiPO presented 8-inch Windows tablet PiPO W2F.
The 5MP camera lens and stereo speaker’s grilles are located on the back cover. The Start button and volume lever are on the long side. On the shorter fringe located interface connectors: 3.5 mm audio, microUSB / OTG, miniHDMI, power jack, the microphone hole, slot for TF card and On button.
The screen also impressive. It is based on IPS matrix with resolution 1280x800px. Display supports ten-finger multitouch and reproduces pictures, videos and dynamic games with reasonable quality.
The basis of W2’s hardware is the quad-core Intel Atom Z3735F, made on 22 nm technology process. It clocked at 1.8 GHz and appropriate to Windows.
Video System integrated into processor’s cores and supports high-quality graphics in mid-class games. The RAM reaches 2GB. The tablet can simultaneously perform multiple tasks due to good balance of a hardware. With PiPO W2F users can listen a music, read e-books, work with documents and communicate in chats. The tablet can support all online games, and many other ones, except games, requiring a strong hardware and discrete graphic card.
The internal SSD storage capacity is 32 GB. Volume of memory can be increased by using the TF card. OTG interface allows you to connect a mouse, keyboard, external hard drive and other devices to the tablet. PiPO W2F can be charged from a computer or laptop via USB.
Wide range of Windows 8.1 applications and Office 365 with an annual subscription will make a work with PiPO W2F more comfortable and efficient.
PiPO W2F has FM-receiver, and all necessary sensors. The tablet can play high quality music and video.
With HDMI interface, the tablet turns to a video player by connecting it to a TV or home theater. Wireless technologies are implemented in the tablet via Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g / n and Bluetooth modules. The device has no GPS, because it is a feature of W line of PiPO gadgets.
The battery capacity of 4500 mAh ensures continuous operation of the device up to 9 hours in active mode, or two days in standby mode.
PiPO W2F – the device with good performance, which is runs on the latest Windows 8.1 system with an annual subscription to Office 365. It seems to be a best buy at the market.​
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Teclast X80h is the answer. Drop all the other chinese brands apart from Teclast. In Russia Teclast is by far the most popular one. Imagine why.

Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.

s7yler said:
Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.
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Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)

penxo said:
Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)
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I have not found a case for it sorry. I like this PiPO very much and happy with it, but the Voyo is also good (but higher priced).
To be honest, the camera is nothing special, only ok for a little Skype etc. don't expect too much from cameras in tablets.
I would not wait for the Cherry Trail, because there will always come something new, and then you can wait forever.

I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.

penxo said:
I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.
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Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.

yes I know by the way I've just found that Chuwi is going to release his Chuwi Vi8 Super Edition, it comes with HDMI and dual boot with android 4.4.4....
Thanks for your reply!

s7yler said:
Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.
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Actually I have the PIPO W2 with the USB 3.0. Despite the driver stating it is an USB3.0 I had tested with several USB 3 thumbdrive,hard disk and all but none of them work at USB 3 speed. .__." bummer~

I have this and teclast, prefer pipo

zorroloko said:
I have this and teclast, prefer pipo
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happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this

gxthelord said:
happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this
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I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post

x1rocket said:
I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post
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Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^

gxthelord said:
Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^
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will do hopefully its not stolen or defected like I have heard in other forums

hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??

mokajengy said:
hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??
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what drivers? do you mean where to buy it?

no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????

Strange portrait mode forced onto secondary display
Anybody with the W2F experiencing problems with the secondary display being forced into portrait mode when connecting via HDMI? Not sure if it is a problem with windows or the tab (I have an Asus T100 as well and have never had this happen before).
Thanks a lot for those review videos, they really helped me make up my mind :good::good:

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Drivers pipo. cn/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&type=2&id=360
2.q: USB

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Most of the drivers will be downloaded automatically from Windows Update, or are included in Windows.
You charge it from the USB port, it is fast enough even if you use it.

Chuwi vi10 10.6" z3736F dual boot windows 8.1 + android 4.4

sorry don't own this tablet anymore so i won't really follow this thread anymore.
if you want me to put info on first page pm me with what you want me to put
edit got one again
btw it's a good tablet. think i will rebuy a new one with the new atoms (core M tablets heat up to much cube i7 stylus i have)
just a place to talk about this tablet. chuwi vi10 dualboot android 4.4 and windows 8.1
I just bought it at aliexpress for 149.99dollar. I payed 133.21euros. +23euro a keyboard with french letter stickers. (since they don't have it in French) don't buy the french stickers wont work cause the enter key is not like we need in france you wont have the key *µ
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2015-...1-Android/32322570779.html?recommendVersion=1 it was one sale monday 18 may. for 149.99$, other wise there are other sellers who sell it for a better price right now
keyboard from here http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Promo...aord-case/32337085586.html?recommendVersion=1[dont buy shipping takes ages and mine came bended and he wouldnt refund cause it was working only got 13euro back got fed up asking. BUY THE KEYBOARD FROM HONESTTEAM very fast shipping and well protected
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EMMC speeds + sd card speed
sorry guys can't seem to get full screen images. not straight for my pc. bit anoying so they are in atachement.. means little and you will need to press on it. i need to upload them online some where to get full image (and box.net doesn't work)
samsung evo 16gb sd card 29mb/s read 11-12mb/s write tested 100mb and 500mb
the fasted card read speed if have seen on a atom even the asus t100 z3775 does 22/23mb/s with sandisk ultra write 10mb/s +/- (for some reason with the samsung it does 10mb/s read strange don't ask why) and chuwi does 29mb/s read 11 mb/s write +/- this is realy great 5mb/s faster than all the atoms even the high end ones maybe the z3736F is some how different with the card reader
emmc 173mb/s read and 26+/- mb/s write tested with 500mb
specs
Dimension : 278*171*8.8mm
net weight : 600 g
color: black, tempered glass on both sides
CPU : Intel Z3736F (X86, quad core, 2.16GHz; GPU 646MHz)
screen : IPS 10.6", 1366*768, 400cd/, 16:9 ratio
Stockage : eMMC-32GB, 2GB RAM DDR3 (single channel), SD expandable storage "128gb" it says 32gb but im sure it will handle 128gb in the SD card slot
Battery : Li-polymer, 3.7V, 8000mAh
Camera : front and back 2MP
Connectivity : Bluetooth 4.0, HDMI 1.4, WiFi 802.11b/g/n, jack 3.5mm, micro HDMI, 2 USB 2.0, 1 micro-USB otg 2.0, SD card slot
sensor: g sensor, light sensor, magnetic sensor hall.
btw to enter bios boot up with volume up and power button or escape on keyboard.
youtube links dead. will try to fix
review in videos made by @Hendrickson from techtablet.com
unboxing
not official keyboard but works
official keyboard
hands on
review (after 1week use)
gaming
starcraft 2 + world of warcraft
heat test
new review/unboxing of @zijin_cheng
full review (very clear and good one must watch)
comparaison chuwi vi10 vs pipo w3f
ROOT
no idea about root for android yet. will update if i find some info about that, go look at post #22
credits go to @gecko16300 for finding this
"I think I found a way to root the tablet !
I’ve found it here : http://www.tablette-chinoise.net/forum/chuwi-vi10-t7085 (which is from http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...p-cwm-t2975096)
– Install adb / fastboot drivers for the tablet
– Enable USB debugging
– Download SuperSU (http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu)
– Download IntelAndroid-FBRL (https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722644693)
– Copy UPDATE-SuperSU-vX.Xx.zip to the tablet
– Uncompress IntelAndroid-FBRL on your computer
– Launch “launcher.bat” from IntelAndroid-FBRL folder
– Type “ACCEPT”
– Check if device status and device information are OK, then type “T3″
– The tablet should reboot in fastboot mode, and after another auto-reboot, CWM recovery should show up
– Flash UPDATE-SuperSU-vX.Xx.zip
– Reboot !"
proof
Remove android and merge with windows partitions
found on techtablet.com and with the post of @roguealcatraz post #140
roguealcatraz said:
Hi all,
I just want to share that i found a way to resize partition in Windows. Personally i don't have reason to keep my android in my Chuwi Vi10, so i decide to delete Android partition and merging the unused disk space for Windows system without reinstalling whole operating system. i thought it was easy at first, but then it is not as easy as it should be.
I will describe step by step, but firstly what you need is to download EASEUS Partition Master 10.5 first. This program have more abilities than Windows built-in disk management. Trial version won't work, so here is a link to download it :
Chuwi Partition Tools
You must learn how to use EASEUS, because any changes you want to make (such as deleting, merging, creating partition) is NOT performed real time. First you choose what you want to do with a partition, and click 'Apply' button in the left top toolbar, otherwise the changes will not be made. Now please make sure you click that button in every step.
From windows, press 'Windows+R', type compmgmt.msc and Enter. At the left handside, click Disk Management. You will now see many partition. Please pay attention to EFI system partition and Recovery (OEM). STRICTLY DO NOT TOUCH THIS TWO important partition. This contain your EFI bios and recovery image of Windows in case you screwed up your system.
Now after you notice that two important partition, DELETE all RAW partition, EXCEPT those aforementioned EFI and Recovery OEM partition (Warning!!! This step will lose ability to use Android in Vi10). These RAW partition is consist of several small 16,32,64 MB, one 7 GB and two 1GB partition. After deleting it, you will have a 9.2 GB un-allocated space now.
CREATE new NTFS partition from aforementioned un-allocated space, the result should be around 9.2 GB. Click 'Apply'
The new partition will be positioned in the left of Windows partition (C:\), with a small 128 MB partition in between them. Restart your computer now.
DELETE that small 128MB partition and CREATE new NTFS partition from unallocated space. Do not click Apply yet, we will apply step 4-6 all at once.
MERGE the 128 MB and 9.2 GB in order to make a new partition which located side by side with the Windows system partition. You will now have a new 9.3 GB NTFS continuous partition.
Merge the 9.3 GB to Windows partition. ALL operations in step 4-6 will be executed all at once by EASEUS, and since these operation involving pre-boot formatting things, it will be done not in Windows, but after POST (Chuwi Chinese writing logo) and just before log into Windows. This required multiple reboots so please make sure your battery is above 75%
The final result will be like this:
Disclaimer: This method works for me. I will not be responsible for any data loss, corruption, damage, world war or apocalypse caused by said method. Always backup your important data before doing this. Even better if you can view this method in different PC so you can concentrate in re-partitioning your tablet.
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sold it for 120euro in 2015/start 2016. and here im again 2017 got my self a 64gb chuwi vi10 for 57euro from igogo refurbished. (but chinees windows 8..)
and got my self the cube i7 stylus who is crap... fast but not made well speakers one same side. keyboard dock sucks. and get to much heat.... and no full usb on tablet
think that im gonna sell it and buy a cheaper new atom ones. the core M get to much heat and i dont play games on my tablet anyway. i use it maybe 1h every month... for internet

Hi!
Thanks for your review
I have also bought the chuwi vi10 at aliexpress on the 18th may. Waiting to receive it, I'm looking for info about how to root it. It seems that kingo root could work with this processor...

@jugo00 noproblem
i thought it would be nice to have a thread about this tablet.
can't wait to have it in my hands. ) i have a 8" voyo a1 but it's just like nah its plastic and i don't know didn't like it maybe i will like it again with touchscreen lol. (broke my touchscreen by standing on it so ordered a new one it should come around the same time as the chuwi vi10)
the chuwi looks very nice in design and materials glass on both sides. etc. + android and 2 usb ports that made me buy it and the faster z3736F cpu.

jugo00 said:
Hi!
Thanks for your review
I have also bought the chuwi vi10 at aliexpress on the 18th may. Waiting to receive it, I'm looking for info about how to root it. It seems that kingo root could work with this processor...
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Kingo root or vroot should work fine, I'll be testing this on mine soon and will share the results.
@reggiexp $149 lucky! If I knew they were gong to have a sale I would have waited. I paid $176 usd and then 38 euros in taxes to get it a bit earlier for review. Ouch!

Hi!
I have bought this tablet the 1st may, also by aliexpress, and I received it yesterday.
It looks good, nice finishing. It comes with an adapter for EU Plug.
Actually, I just downloaded french translation and updates for Win8, no software installed (just an Android game to try : Terra Battle).
Win 8 looks clear of third party applications (except InsydeQ2S, that seems to be the dualOS system), but on Android there are some Chinese applications that crash sometimes and I would like to know if I can uninstall them ? I can post screenshot if you want.
Put a TF card is not really easy as it need to be deep inserted before mechanism lock it... but my 64Go TF Card is recognized by Win8 but not by Android (default exFAT), I need to try other FS, unless you know what it need ?
I can't help you for the root, but if you want to try something, just tell me and I will do my best.
Tonight, I plan to try some benchmark like Antutu...
I'm not really fluent in English, so I'm sorry for the mistakes

@Hendrickson hahahah you toke DHL? i learned my lesson no dhl for me. did it with my voyo a1. payed 17euro for shipping. +18 euro douane. + 12 euro again for dhl (10euro that they pay the douane in advance + 2euro for the file sh!t)
never again. i learned my lesson. yep 133euro im happy. still waiting for aliexpress to ship the tablet
okay good luck. hope it works
@ShadyGuard ow cool yeah got a response that it will include a eu adaptor after 10 times of asking...
me i can't help you with the format of sd i have no idea normally i saw in videos that you can uninstall apps on android the chinese apps. ahaha de parler francais c'est mieux mais faut faire l'effort ici de parler anglais.
after all updates how much space you have left internal? just curious.

Hi, 10.5GB free in Windows and Android 6.5GB free so not the best, much better with a 64GB eMMC. I haven't installed any Windows updates. Disabled that, I always do on 32GB tablets because it eats up the free space. You could loose another 2GB easy!
I only shipped it out via DHL to get the tablet a bit earlier for review purposes for my site otherwise I would have opted for the slow boat out of China.. In Spain I have to pay 21% tax and then 15 euros to DHL for their rip off customsk fee. , it's criminal!
I have the Windows drivers dumped here if anyone is thinking of doing a clean install: http://techtablets.com/chuwi-vi10/downloads/
As for rooting the tablet, no luck. Both Vroot and Kingo root fail and even a root tool box for bay trail tablets doesn't work. I'm lost as to how to root it and don't want to spend to much time trying to get root. 160 DPI on the screen makes it look blurry, a better DPI should be used here for sure.

@Hendrickson
Okay thanks. Yeah thats realy not much space, yeah still 64gb tablets are rare. Or expensive
Yeah dhl are assh0les, sure you have your package in 7-9days sure but there still crap for asking money for no real reason.
You are the dude that reviews the vi10 on tech tablet? Very nice reviews you make. Very good channel. Could you make a starcraft 2 video In a arcade game.? I know it playes but i Tryed it of a external drive via usb hub and otg on my voyo a1.
Damn no root yet. Hope some one will come with a solution.

Sure, I'll see if I can try Starcraft 2, just need to download it first. I don't think it will run it to well to be honest. Yes those are my videos, they are part of the review process I do for these tablets.
I'll have to use an external drive due to the 15GB install size being over the available free space on the tablet.

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Sure, I'll see if I can try Starcraft 2, just need to download it first. I don't think it will run it to well to be honest. Yes those are my videos, they are part of the review process I do for these tablets.
I'll have to use an external drive due to the 15GB install size being over the available free space on the tablet.
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Okay man very good reviews. For the core m tablets and surface always nice to know what the chipset is capable of.
I think i will buy a sd card 64gb Kingston 80write 90read speed. 32euro. It is the fastest i found for a good pricr
But yeah if you could try it. That will be great. (i know heroes of storm doesn't work. 2gb ram is not enough for it, i tryied with a home pc with a good gpu and dualcore cpu it lagged like hell, even if they say you need 2gb ram minimum, its isn't enough.) starcraft should play on low. If it will good i dont know. Problèm with external is that speeds are not always fast.

Fast microsd cards aren't needed unless you have another PC that can take advantage of that speed. All these tablets microsd cards slots max out at 21-23mb/s read and write speeds.

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Fast microsd cards aren't needed unless you have another PC that can take advantage of that speed. All these tablets microsd cards slots max out at 21-23mb/s read and write speeds.
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Okay thanks good to know so a simple 20mb/s write and 40mb/s read sd card is all i need. Higher speed won't work?
Hum did you try faster sd cards in chinees tablets? Ones that have more than 40mb/s? Or has the sd card slot same speeds as the usb 2.0 ports?
All 20mb? That sucks. Tought sd card had faster working speeds.

ShadyGuard said:
Hi!
I have bought this tablet the 1st may, also by aliexpress, and I received it yesterday.
It looks good, nice finishing. It comes with an adapter for EU Plug.
Actually, I just downloaded french translation and updates for Win8, no software installed (just an Android game to try : Terra Battle).
Win 8 looks clear of third party applications (except InsydeQ2S, that seems to be the dualOS system), but on Android there are some Chinese applications that crash sometimes and I would like to know if I can uninstall them ? I can post screenshot if you want.
Put a TF card is not really easy as it need to be deep inserted before mechanism lock it... but my 64Go TF Card is recognized by Win8 but not by Android (default exFAT), I need to try other FS, unless you know what it need ?
I can't help you for the root, but if you want to try something, just tell me and I will do my best.
Tonight, I plan to try some benchmark like Antutu...
I'm not really fluent in English, so I'm sorry for the mistakes
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Yep, I think it's normal, try formatting the card in FAT32, or format it directly with Android, Windows should recognize it.
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Okay thanks good to know so a simple 20mb/s write and 40mb/s read sd card is all i need. Higher speed won't work?
Hum did you try faster sd cards in chinees tablets? Ones that have more than 40mb/s? Or has the sd card slot same speeds as the usb 2.0 ports?
All 20mb? That sucks. Tought sd card had faster working speeds.
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They are faster... Only if the tablet can support this speed ! They will work at a slower speed
It would be nice to make a CrystalDiskMark test to check high speed cards !
Anyone tried 128Gb cards ?

@gecko16300
yuppp i hope hendrickson could make a sd card speed test on the chuwi vi10.
i did try a 128gb sandisk in my voyo a1 once? but just to check if it was real, didn't save the speed somewhere...

@reggiexp Sorry but I have installed some apps... so I try to calculate the free space after updates without this apps, it's about 7.95Go/14.3Go
@gecko16300 Yes, I format it directly with Android, it's FAT32...

@ShadyGuard don't worry, just curious. someone else already give me a answer . 8gb free after updates?
i know on my moms danew dualboot android 4.2 and windows there was not much left. and now after all the updates it's like 1gb. really bad. but i think i will need clean up the hdd.

@reggiexp Yes, 8gb free after updates.

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@reggiexp Yes, 8gb free after updates.
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damn, that's acualy bad. i'm gonna buy a kingston 64gb the fast one. for 29euro damn was too late it's back a 32.19euro. even if the tablet doesnt suport that fast speeds. atleast i will have a good sd card

keyboard is not working
hi i have a problem with my keyboard i bought a chuwi vi10 from aliexpress and when i got it i couldnt download some apps from play store .due to country restrictions probably . (bought from hong kong ) . after the factory reset when i plug the tablet with the keyboard android or windows cant find it and it is not working . before the factory reset in android input and language menu there was settings for keyboard after reset all gone . can anyone help me ? thanks

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@reggiexp Yes, 8gb free after updates.
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Which is why I might delete Android if I keep this tablet. I hope Chuwi releases a 64GB and 1080p version of this tablet. I would buy it.
reggiexp said:
@gecko16300
yuppp i hope hendrickson could make a sd card speed test on the chuwi vi10.
i did try a 128gb sandisk in my voyo a1 once? but just to check if it was real, didn't save the speed somewhere...
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Still just 23mb/s read and write cap.
sarandis1 said:
hi i have a problem with my keyboard i bought a chuwi vi10 from aliexpress and when i got it i couldnt download some apps from play store .due to country restrictions probably . (bought from hong kong ) . after the factory reset when i plug the tablet with the keyboard android or windows cant find it and it is not working . before the factory reset in android input and language menu there was settings for keyboard after reset all gone . can anyone help me ? thanks
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No idea, Play works for me and so does the official keyboard I just got. Not sure what else you could try? Ask your reseller what they recommend or get a refund and swap it for one that works?
Nice keyboard by the way, it's a step up from the Pipo W1/W3/W3F keyboards.

CHUWI Vi8 Plus Unboxing, Performance, Battery, Camera review

Now i would like to share Chuwi VI8 Plus tablet pc review with you. This is the windows 10 OS tablet pc, which be the other version of Chuwi VI8 dual boot model. Chuwi VI8 Plus is built in Type C port to be the nice version for most users. Chuwi Tablet PC has made big progress in the past few years. It has provided us not only the nice and affordable price, but also the ultra wonderful performance.
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Chuwi VI8 plus highlights overview:
Operating system:*Windows10 OS
Display:*8 Inch*IPS*1280*800, 10 Points Capacitive touch screen
CPU:*Intel Cherry Trail X5 Z8300 Quad Core 1.84GHz CPU
Storage:*2GB DDR3 RAM + 32GB eMMC ROM, T-Flash 64GB max
Dual cameras:*Front 2.0MP + Rear 2.0MP
Functions:*Support Bluetooth 4.0/OTG/HDMI/WiFi/Type-C
Build & Quality:
Chuwi VI8 Plus is made of plastic material, it has USB Type C port, the demension has 211.2mm length, 123.2 width and 9.3mm height, it weigh 350g which is easy to handle and take or bring. It has HDMI and Type C port which has much progress than that of Chuwi VI8 tablet pc.
It has 8inch 1280 *800 screen display and support 10 points capacitive touch screen. To some degree, the screen size is reasonable for a convenient tablet pc. And the screen resolution also gives us the nice video playing or games playing. I don't have to buy a ipad mini to spend much money with low performance. This Chuwi VI8 plus can gives us that ipad which will not provide. And Chuwi VI8 plus has supported Windows 10 OS , which is the latest OS like a real PC.You can treat this tablet pc like a computer to do office work, and personal recreation.
Therefore, i am so satisfied with this Chuwi VI8 Plus with this kind of design and quality. BTW, the screen also responses so quickly.
CPU and Internal storage:
Chuwi VI8 plus this time is powered by Intel Cherry Trail X5 Z8300 Quad Core 1.84GHz CPU and 2GB DDR3 RAM + 32GB eMMC ROM, and it can be expandable to 64GB by TF card. As you know Cherry Trail X5 is the lastest chipset of Intel company. and the performance will be compared with a computer. Altought it just has Quad core processor, when you paly games , you can feel the outstanding power than those dual core tablet PC. So you don't have to worry about the playing speed. And it has RAM 2GB and ROM 32GB which can support download many apps as i want. Of course, i just download the useful apps. I am afraid it will run slowly. Meanwhile, if you think the storage is not enough for you to use, you can add the tf card to expand the storage to 64GB. i bet it will be defintely large enough to use.
Dual cameras:*
Chuwi vi8 plus has improved the dual camera with front 2.0mp and Rear 2.0mp camera, due to the last tablet Chuiw VI8 with only 0.2mp front camera, this time Chuwi VI8 plus has 2.0mp front camera with can be used well in facing time or video chat. Of course i can also take selfies by it. And the back camera 2.0 mp also let me take some vivid pictures, although it can't be matched the smartphone with 13MP camera.
Battery Life:
With only a 4000 mAh battery inside is it enough? Using Battery Bar Pro, your looking around 5-6hours hours of normal web, video and doc use depending on what your doing and screen brightness of course. Personally I would have liked an hour or so more here, but it seems size or most likely cost constraints came into play in terms of battery capacity. But overall it’s good for an 8 inch Windows tablet.
Final Thought:
I am so satisfied with Chuwi VI8 Plus right now, i spend less and get a windows 10 OS tablet pc to support USB Type C charging. It also has HDMI port which is the one of most features i like. Of course , i don't know if you like the 8 inch screen size. So how do you feel about it?

Great specs for the price. I would like a bigger battery, but 4000mAh are enough. And what about connectivity? Does it have an HDMI? Also, are there any other versions such as dual boot (Android+Windows) as the Chuwi Vi8 or does it come just with Windows?

[email protected] said:
Great specs for the price. I would like a bigger battery, but 4000mAh are enough. And what about connectivity? Does it have an HDMI? Also, are there any other versions such as dual boot (Android+Windows) as the Chuwi Vi8 or does it come just with Windows?
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yeah, it supports HDMI port, and Onda V820w CH has similar specs at Chuwi VI8 Plus. you can compare them and make the choice. It supports Windows 10 OS and Android os, too. Any other idea ?

I have a Chuwi Wi10, and it's amazing if you unistall Android. I have installed Win10 and run flawlessly. Vi8 plus won't be the exception.

What's the difference between this and the other CHUWI VI8 that came out earlier (non-Plus)?

PeteSco said:
What's the difference between this and the other CHUWI VI8 that came out earlier (non-Plus)?
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Chuwi VI8 is the old version, it has Windows 8.1 OS, and Chuwi vi8 plus has the Windows 10 OS. Better performance.

FumiJ said:
Chuwi VI8 is the old version, it has Windows 8.1 OS, and Chuwi vi8 plus has the Windows 10 OS. Better performance.
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Oh ok, that's a nice upgrade, I really like the USB type-C integration, I always get so nervous when I've to put my tablet on charge because I feel like the proprietary charging connector could break any time.
Is this on sale already?

PeteSco said:
Oh ok, that's a nice upgrade, I really like the USB type-C integration, I always get so nervous when I've to put my tablet on charge because I feel like the proprietary charging connector could break any time.
Is this on sale already?
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Yeah, i guess so, you can check and compare, then make the choice, but USB Type C connection is an outstanding feature for most users. This is the new progress for Chuwi VI8 Plus tablet pc .

MrCego said:
I have a Chuwi Wi10, and it's amazing if you unistall Android. I have installed Win10 and run flawlessly. Vi8 plus won't be the exception.
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CHuwi HI10 has supported Windows 10 OS itself. there is no Android version right now.

Share the real picture of Chuwi VI8 Plus with you.

Looks pretty nice, is the USB type-C port surrounded by metal? And what's that other port?

looks great
i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html

talevi said:
i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html
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Thanks dude! Seems to be working smoothly, really nice.

talevi said:
i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html
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Thanks, it seems very neat. At that price tag, I guess I have to give it a try.

How can I backup the Windows 10 rom? Is there an Android rom available? (I'm not looking for dual boot)

You can see in TechTablets.

Hello guys,
Have any of you tried this tablet for reading?
I am looking for a cheap tablet to use as an e-reader. This one seems to have a high-quality display on paper, but is it really good, does it strain your eyes?
Also could anybody tell if there is any difference between Chuwi and other similar Chinese brands that you can find on geekbuy or gearbest, like Onda or Techlast?

not good for reading in my opinion
the screen is too dark for me and becomes darker after about 140° viewing angle
windows 10 is not my way by many aspects. Anyway.
Is there a possibility to flash an android system on Chuwi vi8 plus?

In Techtablets you can find info about that.

abillio said:
not good for reading in my opinion
the screen is too dark for me and becomes darker after about 140° viewing angle
windows 10 is not my way by many aspects. Anyway.
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Thanks for the info. I kinda like W10, and I also need it in my tablet, in order to have some productivity on the move.
Maybe I will have to go for the more expensive MI Pad 2. It's screen seems way better, and aspect ratio 4:3 is more suitable for reading.

New to Android in car .. Ideas for better performance and a few tweaks ...

I have recently got my first android HU, its to go in my 2010 Audi S3.. it's this one ...
eBay item number:173701634590
I've got it wired up on my test bench to a PSU ,i've set up a launcher how I like it, set up waze navigation, spotify, and apple music (as well as torque for the widgets).
I'm reluctant to put it in my car, even though it's far more capable than my factory unit, its sooo slow! Boot time is like 10+ seconds, then once booted each app takes ~10 seconds to open on their first run, and apple music is always very slow even once opened. So I will be half way down the road before I have navigation or music working properly.
After about a minute of running once everything is in RAM, its not so bad, fairly snappy apart from Apple music.
It's just not up to the job if you ask me, and I would happily pay 3 times the price for one that is as its capabilities are brilliant, just not performance.
It's a quad core with 2GB RAM and 16gb Storage. They recently released a new version (after I ordered mine) with 8 cores 2gb RAM and 32gb storage, is it going to be much better ? it needs to be at least 4 times faster to make it usable when I jump in the car.
I wonder if I could utilise the display and housing and have a high end flagship smart phone (say my samsung note 8 I m abut to replace for example) connected to that LCD and touchscreen and amplifier etc, its not something I could do myself but if possible I would be happy to pay a professional, the system would be very fast then would it not? however things line canbus talking etc would need to be reverse engineered and made to work.
Or I wonder if I could use the internals of the very newest Joying unit (4gb RAM) inside the chassis of mine an that would be suitable. Or could I possibly upgrade the internal storage to something much faster (and/or bigger).
Another thought on top of all of this is why does it need to shut down at all, why can't it just power off its amplifiers and sleep like a tablet would, a tablet has the apps still in RAM when you come back to use it next time. Can we perhaps work out a way to modify it to do this? I need to open it and see if the amp is a seperate circuit which can be relayed from the ACC on its own, and then put in something along the lines of an Anker power bank to run the rest of the unit in sleep mode when the ignition is off. Any thoughts on the possibilities of this ?
Other than performance I have 2 other complaints ... The bluetooth app for using hands free is ugly and clunky, it hogs the screen during a call, cant even minimise it to go back to navigation, is there a better one, ideally one that integrates with the rest of the system better. Or is there an API I can use to build one... or documentation for accessing the hardware I can use to build one ?
DAB was similar but DAB-z seems much better.
Also I seem to have Access Touch permanently enabled on so I have a n annoying floating button constantly, there is no settings option to turn it off like you would expect under display or accessibility or something.
Any feedback / input / collaboration appreciated, after all if we find ways to improve things it helps us all.

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2GB Ram and Android 8.1 combination, there lays the performance problem. Android 7 runs smoother on 2 Gb units.
I would suggest flashing it with Hal9k_mod Rom's and using microG framework !

erion_vl said:
2GB Ram and Android 8.1 combination, there lays the performance problem. Android 7 runs smoother on 2 Gb units.
I would suggest flashing it with Hal9k_mod Rom's and using microG framework !
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Thanks I will get onto that.
I would prefer better hardware though .. do you know of any with 4gb+ ram and a good processor that is the same form factor as mine ?
Thanks.

It's not the 2GB memory. 2GB is more than sufficient for Android 8.x (although 4GB is better). If you use large games or the (akward) facebook, you need more memory. For a car unit 2GB is good. I have 2GB and I did actual memory tests: I never had an issue.
It is the too old T3 processor that is the performance issue. That one is very slow. You should have looked to faster processors like the Alwinner T8 or Rockchip PX5. or the new PX6 or Intel Airmont.
Edit: Never take an android 7 unit. All these units are either running on the old Alwinner T3 or the old Rockchip PX3 (RK3188) or the old MediaTek cpu (forgot the type).

Thanks for the input, I seem very limited in my form factor, can you find one with a better CPU and if possible more RAM?
I would like to use apple music which is RAM hungry, but I've uninstalled it for now. Spotify is doing OK, just lacks some content.
Can I transplant another unit into my chassis for better reprformance perhaps?

https://www.joyingauto.com/head-unit/a-g/audi.html (universal, not audi specific)
https://www.seicane.com/oem-android...vr-1080p-video-steering-wheel-control-s018796
https://xtrons.com/audi/audi-a3-s3-rs3-android-car-stereo.html
https://www.eonon.com/Car-Type/Audi.html
and more if you search

Thanks for that but the only reason I've finally gone android is becaue they now make one which is pretty much all screen for my car finally! , the fake audi nav looking ones look and feel awful (seen them in friends cars) and the universal double din are OK but hey use a cascading sea of crap plastic adapters to make then fit.
This one I have is the only one that fits well in the car and doesnt look out of place amongst the quality interior. I've been on the look out for about 2 years (the mk5/Mk6 golf ones always impressed me).
I guess I just have to wait until they release one in this same form factor with a decent CPU, it will probably come eventually!
Dont want to seem ungrateful for your help though. Thanks

Is the CPU in this one any good?
Ebay item.. 303046069027
It's the same as mine but xtrons with more storage and 8 core CPU.

Inertia10 said:
Is the CPU in this one any good?
Ebay item.. 303046069027
It's the same as mine but xtrons with more storage and 8 core CPU.
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You should post a link (or mention which ebay you use. ebay.de or ebay.ca or ebay.whatever. Every country version uses its own item no.'s )
This item number is totally useless. Same from your first post.

I
It's ebay UK
As a junior forum member I can't post Links yet.
I was a member here back in the days of the Pocket PC devices, and used this forum when android was in its infancy. But I don't have my account details so had to start agian.
Thanks for letting me know the item numbers arent International.

I agree links are always better . . . . but being curious, I tried that eBay number on UK, US & NL sites. eBay finds the same item on all three sites.

pwood999 said:
I agree links are always better . . . . but being curious, I tried that eBay number on UK, US & NL sites. eBay finds the same item on all three sites.
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Really?
I did search with the number 303046069027 and the one from the first post on ebay.nl, ebay.com and ebay.de and can't find them, whereas I do find them on the ebay.co.uk.
Hence my conclusion.