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ONDA V891W - 8.9 IPS FHD, Intel Z3735F 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 32GB SSD Windows 8.1 tablet

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Latest Windows tablet model from Onda - V891w.
Trending 8.9 inch design, Full HD screen (perfect resolution for Windows, not too low, but not too high, since Windows doesn't scale very well on higher Retina like resolutions).
Fast Intel Atom Quad core CPU with a very tempting price just around.
Onda V891w - Mod Edit: please do not post commercial links onto xda. Thanks!
Screen 8.9 inch IPS (1920 x 1200px)
CPU Intel Bay Trail Z3735F Quad Core 64Bit 1.83GHz
RAM 2GB
Capacity 32GB + MicroSD up to 128GB
System Windows 8.1
Battery 5000mAh
Size 241x169x8.9mm

I was looking at this at well,
it's like the only 9" windows tablet which i found overall (including non-chinese ones)
and then the specs, with high-res etc and the price, looks a bit too good to be true? its even way cheaper than other ondas.
the back reminds me of my dell venue 8 pro to be fair, but i really like the back there
on banggood it looks like first batch sold out already and they expect a second batch
tinydeal and pandawill still have it from what it looks like?
but i cant really find any experience reports on the net yet (except one russian youtube video, where he just shows it)

I think that resolution is going to make this a very slow device.
Looks great though., like the Dell

ebsbow said:
I think that resolution is going to make this a very slow device.
Looks great though., like the Dell
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what u mean with slow device?
as long as videoplay in that resolution works flawless, browsing and office software aswell, that would be sufficient for me

Bowsing is memory and gpu intensive. And at that reolution I'm guessing you want
to see 1080p contend and use other browser. Forget smoothness at that resolution on an Z3735G.
Just saying. Looks sweet though.
HoR77 said:
what u mean with slow device?
as long as videoplay in that resolution works flawless, browsing and office software aswell, that would be sufficient for me
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ebsbow said:
Bowsing is memory and gpu intensive. And at that reolution I'm guessing you want
to see 1080p contend and use other browser. Forget smoothness at that resolution on an Z3735G.
Just saying. Looks sweet though.
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it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed

Also not working and have 7 tabs open ? lucky number.
It's a Z3735F you mean, right? A Z3775 would be sweet but expensive.
You can always check devices with the same specs for there performance. Lots
of those.. A few at least.. all sluggish. Z3740 would even struggle.
HoR77 said:
it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed
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ebsbow said:
Also not working and have 7 tabs open ? lucky number.
It's a Z3735F you mean, right? A Z3775 would be sweet but expensive.
You can always check devices with the same specs for there performance. Lots
of those.. A few at least.. all sluggish. Z3740 would even struggle.
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yeah typo, wanted to point out the F instead of the D
i will have a look at that tomorrow, but u crushed my dreams already
but well better to find out before i buy it

crushed my dreams, seriously? If you dont like the answer then
dont go looking for it. This is still xda developers, not the kmart website...

ebsbow said:
crushed my dreams, seriously? If you dont like the answer then
dont go looking for it. This is still xda developers, not the kmart website...
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ment it with a lil bit of homour
at first glance this tablet looked perfect, good specs with perfect price, so i was really lookin forward to it
thats the reason i post here, to get some knowledge on things i dont understand (e.g. the intel processors and their performance)
i am obviously thankful for you help !

Just keep your viciousness in tact and you'll do fine.

So i did some research today and tried to look how the CPU is working, couldnt find anything useful there, so i tried finding a tablet/notebook which has the same CPU in it with a screen running same resolution aswell:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-Switch-10-Full-HD-Convertible-Review-Update.129800.0.html
From what i read here, it says basically that it isnt the fastest machine on earth, but that it's still running well and gets the job done?
Obviously not a gaming machine, but don't that 1080 videoplayback or normal surfing can't be done with it

HoR77 said:
it's a Z3775F (which unfortunately is even a bit slower?)
for me this are just numbers and i have 0 experience with these hardware specs, but if someone says it won't be smooth then i would probably be looking for a different tablet? :/
1080p playback would be the major issue for me btw, i will only browse 1 tab with it, it's not a working machine, it would be for travels or for my couch/bed
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i have the Onda v975w. it has the z3735f cpu and it has a retina display (2,048 x 1,536). it plays 1080p perfectly, it could play 1080p video while web browsing without a hitch although a bit tight on screen space

Tonian1878 said:
i have the Onda v975w. it has the z3735f cpu and it has a retina display (2,048 x 1,536). it plays 1080p perfectly, it could play 1080p video while web browsing without a hitch although a bit tight on screen space
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i have Onda V975W too. Even 4k 60FPS youtube videos plays without a slightest hitch, that is the power of Intel QSV and Windows 8.1!
I will upload some videos later.
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From what i read here, it says basically that it isnt the fastest machine on earth, but that it's still running well and gets the job done?
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No, it blows crap out of EVERY ANDROID and iPAD tablet ever made! Intel Bay trail chipset has more power than most budget notobooks from the previous year.
Intel subsides Bay Trail CPUs up to $50 each, just to beet crap out of competition and take market from ARM.
This tablet runs 4k video, it can even encode them and run older games like Counter Strike Source or Call of Duty 4 at playable FPS rate.

Seriously.. z3735f is an low end cpu..
Don't misinform people, sir.

ebsbow said:
Seriously.. z3735f is an low end cpu..
Don't misinform people, sir.
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Very nice advice, so why you don't use it more often?
Here is my video with the cheapest and most basic: 8 inch / Intel Atom Z3735G / 1GB RAM / 8GB SSD / Windows 8.1 tablet.

I should
Quick reminder, Z3735f is the most basic. G and D only differ in memory size.
Originalas said:
Very nice advice, so why you don't use it more often?
Here is my video with the cheapest and most basic: 8 inch / Intel Atom Z3735G / 1GB RAM / 8GB SSD / Windows 8.1 tablet.
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ebsbow said:
I should
Quick reminder, Z3735f is the most basic. G and D only differ in memory size.
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The Z3735G has one 32-bit memory channel, whereas the F has one 64-bit channel. The F has a max memory bandwidth of ~10.6GB/s, the G ~5.3GB/s.
If you have to choice between a F and a G then pick the F.

Yep, that's true. Can't argue with that..

My Onda has Z3735D and eStar Z3735G, but I haven't noticed any real difference. Maybe because both comes with Windows x86 or 32bit is still more than enough for 2GB RAM.
Both scores identical 67FPS in Counter Strike Source stress test.

PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1

UPDATE 8/1 2015
UNBOXING video:
REVIEW video:
3D GAMING, HDMI & WIRELESS DISPLAY TEST
Tips:
- To enter BIOS, connect keyboard via OTG, at boot start press ESC + CAPSLOCK
- To access advanced startup options in Windows 8 or 8.1, hold VOL down plus POWER
- Download latest display drivers here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24345
(especially do this update, if you have problems to wake the tablet from sleep sometimes, should fix it)
PiPO W2F Disassembly Pictures here
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6108053155867182961
Drivers:
http://pipo.cn/En/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&id=360&type=2
Want to use OTG and Charge it at the same time?
Then you need one of these
http://aliexpress.com/item/Universa...inkpad-8-X98-M80ta-WT-8-Miix2/2038609573.html
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Hey
What do you guys think about the PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1? I saw it to a nice price at Gearbest. It comes with 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM that seems to be okay for a 8 inch tablet. It also has support for HDMI and OTG which I find very important for a tablet.
Due to Chinese manufacturers, the market of mobile electronic devices overflowed by cheap Windows 8 tablets. Devices of well-known brands cannot compete with the same quality, but lower prices of Chinese products. The famous Hong Kong brand PiPO presented 8-inch Windows tablet PiPO W2F.
The 5MP camera lens and stereo speaker’s grilles are located on the back cover. The Start button and volume lever are on the long side. On the shorter fringe located interface connectors: 3.5 mm audio, microUSB / OTG, miniHDMI, power jack, the microphone hole, slot for TF card and On button.
The screen also impressive. It is based on IPS matrix with resolution 1280x800px. Display supports ten-finger multitouch and reproduces pictures, videos and dynamic games with reasonable quality.
The basis of W2’s hardware is the quad-core Intel Atom Z3735F, made on 22 nm technology process. It clocked at 1.8 GHz and appropriate to Windows.
Video System integrated into processor’s cores and supports high-quality graphics in mid-class games. The RAM reaches 2GB. The tablet can simultaneously perform multiple tasks due to good balance of a hardware. With PiPO W2F users can listen a music, read e-books, work with documents and communicate in chats. The tablet can support all online games, and many other ones, except games, requiring a strong hardware and discrete graphic card.
The internal SSD storage capacity is 32 GB. Volume of memory can be increased by using the TF card. OTG interface allows you to connect a mouse, keyboard, external hard drive and other devices to the tablet. PiPO W2F can be charged from a computer or laptop via USB.
Wide range of Windows 8.1 applications and Office 365 with an annual subscription will make a work with PiPO W2F more comfortable and efficient.
PiPO W2F has FM-receiver, and all necessary sensors. The tablet can play high quality music and video.
With HDMI interface, the tablet turns to a video player by connecting it to a TV or home theater. Wireless technologies are implemented in the tablet via Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g / n and Bluetooth modules. The device has no GPS, because it is a feature of W line of PiPO gadgets.
The battery capacity of 4500 mAh ensures continuous operation of the device up to 9 hours in active mode, or two days in standby mode.
PiPO W2F – the device with good performance, which is runs on the latest Windows 8.1 system with an annual subscription to Office 365. It seems to be a best buy at the market.​
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Teclast X80h is the answer. Drop all the other chinese brands apart from Teclast. In Russia Teclast is by far the most popular one. Imagine why.

Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.

s7yler said:
Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.
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Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)

penxo said:
Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)
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I have not found a case for it sorry. I like this PiPO very much and happy with it, but the Voyo is also good (but higher priced).
To be honest, the camera is nothing special, only ok for a little Skype etc. don't expect too much from cameras in tablets.
I would not wait for the Cherry Trail, because there will always come something new, and then you can wait forever.

I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.

penxo said:
I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.
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Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.

yes I know by the way I've just found that Chuwi is going to release his Chuwi Vi8 Super Edition, it comes with HDMI and dual boot with android 4.4.4....
Thanks for your reply!

s7yler said:
Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.
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Actually I have the PIPO W2 with the USB 3.0. Despite the driver stating it is an USB3.0 I had tested with several USB 3 thumbdrive,hard disk and all but none of them work at USB 3 speed. .__." bummer~

I have this and teclast, prefer pipo

zorroloko said:
I have this and teclast, prefer pipo
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happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this

gxthelord said:
happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this
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I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post

x1rocket said:
I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post
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Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^

gxthelord said:
Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^
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will do hopefully its not stolen or defected like I have heard in other forums

hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??

mokajengy said:
hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??
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what drivers? do you mean where to buy it?

no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????

Strange portrait mode forced onto secondary display
Anybody with the W2F experiencing problems with the secondary display being forced into portrait mode when connecting via HDMI? Not sure if it is a problem with windows or the tab (I have an Asus T100 as well and have never had this happen before).
Thanks a lot for those review videos, they really helped me make up my mind :good::good:

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Drivers pipo. cn/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&type=2&id=360
2.q: USB

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Most of the drivers will be downloaded automatically from Windows Update, or are included in Windows.
You charge it from the USB port, it is fast enough even if you use it.

Cube i10 Dual Boot hands-on: the most cost-efficient dual boot tablet

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As successful as Cube is in marketing their business-oriented Core-M tablets such as the i7, the i7-CM as well as the all new i7 Stylus, the leading brand in the Chinese tablet industry hasn’t forgot its roots, and released arguably the most cost-efficient tablet ever – the Cube i10 Dual Boot.
Powered by an Intel Atom Bay-trail Z3735F quad-core processor and 2GB RAM, the i10 Dual Boot may seem like just another entry-level Windows slate that can’t really do much more than entertainment use and lightweight desktop tasks. However, the 10.6-inch display here changes the whole perspective, as the increased screen real estate greatly improves the productivity of this slate. With a licensed copy of Windows 8.1 and free Office 365 included, the tablet is only priced at RMB699 ($113), easily one of the best bargains we have seen to date.
Cube i10 specs:
• OS: Android 4.4.4 & Windows 8.1 dual boot
• Display: 10.6-inch IPS, 10-point multi-touch, IGZO
• Screen Resolution: 1366 x 768 (16:9)
• CPU: Intel Atom Baytrail-T Z3735F Quad-core Processor
• CPU Frequency: 1.33GHz – 1.8GHZ
• GPU: Intel HD Graphic Gen7
• RAM / Storage: 2GB / 32GB
• Function: WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, OTG
• WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n
• Camera: 2MP back camera, VGA front camera
• Battery: 6,600mAh
• Extend Port: TF Card Slot, SIM Card Slot, Full USB2.0 Port, Micro USB Port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack, 2.5mm DC Port
• Weight & Size: 580g / 281.2*176*9.85mm
Design and build
Measuring at 281.2*176*9.85mm and weighs 580g, the i10 Dual Boot Edition is certainly not fighting to be the thinnest or lightest tablet in the world. But for a dual boot tablet with a 10.6-inch display, it is quite compact. It is much thinner than the Acer ICONIA W700, which measures at 11.9mm thick, but it is a little porkier than the Cube i7 (9.1mm).
The front of the tablet is dominated by a 10.6-inch IPS display, with the healthy amount of bezel to help you hold the tablet easily, whether in portrait or landscape mode. A VGA front camera sits comfortably above the screen, while a touch-sensitive Windows Key is located below the display.
The two physical buttons are both hosted on the top side of the tablet, while all the ports and slots are located on the left side, including a full USB 2.0 port, a Micro USB port, a mini HDMI port, a 3.5mm headphone jack, a 2.5mm DC port, and a Micro SD card slot covered by a plastic lid.
Most budget tablets have plastic chassis as a result of the cost, but the i10 dual boot is one of the exceptions. It features a metallic rear made of aluminium alloy, usually something we only see on premium tablets. The reason why Cube does not choose cheaper material for such a low-end tablet is unknown, but we applaud such generosity and ambitions.
A 2MP rear-facing camera and two stereo speakers are also on the back of the slate, so as Cube’s brand logo and some basic information of the tablet.
On the bottom side of the tablet you could see the magnetic docking which can help the i10 Dual Boot establish a solid connection to the keyboard cover, but we haven’t received one along with our review unit.
Overall the manufacturing quality of the i10 Dual Boot is pretty good and superior to that of the similarly-priced rival products. Tablets like the Surface 3 or the Cube i7 still belong to a completely different class and give the impression of being substantially more valuable.
Display and sound
The thing that sets the i10 Dual Boot apart from the other entry-level dual OS tablets is its screen size. Although Cube officially stated that the i10 Dual Boot has the same display used on the first Generation of Microsoft Surface RT, yet it is still difficult to assume how big the screen really is if you haven’t owned one. To help you better understand the size of the screen, here are some comparisons we have made for you.
If you put the i10 Dual Boot and the 8-inch iWork 8 3G together, you could easily see that the i10 Dual Boot has a much larger display, almost twice as large as the 8-inch display on the iWork 8 3G.
And if we compared the i10 Dual Boot’s 10.6-inch screen to the Acer W700’s 11.6-inch display, you could see it is smaller, but the difference is less significant.
As for the quality of the display on the i10 Dual Boot, the IPS panel has a resolution of 1366*768, which translates into a pixel density of 148PPI, clearly not fascinating by today’s standards. But given the amount of horsepower the Intel Graphics HD GPU could generate, it is a decent choice as it won’t drag down the performance.
The 10.6-inch display here has all the perks of an IPS screen: wide viewing angles, true to life colors and contrast, as well as fair brightness.
We are able to notice individual pixels while we look at the display closely, but it’s not something that you will focus on after using the tablet for a while.
Like most of Cube’s tablets, the i10 Dual Boot’s speakers are clear-sounding, and produce relatively loud, full output that’s just good enough to make me forego my headphones while watching YouTube videos. With that said, I still very much needed my Monster headphone or Astrotec IEMs when I was listening to music.
System and apps
As the model name suggests, the i10 Dual Boot has both Windows 8.1 and Android 4.4.4 preinstalled. It is known to all that tablets with screen smaller than 9 inches get free licensed copy of Windows 8 and one year free subscription of Office 365 from Microsoft. But the Cube i10 Dual Boot has a 10.6-inch display, so Cube must pay for the license fee of Windows and Office, and fortunately, the RMB699 ($113) retail price has already covered all of that.
Like the i6, the i10 Dual Boot doesn’t have an OS selector in tis bootscreen, instead it automatically launches the operating system you shut your tablet down from the last time.
Switching between the two operating systems is conveniently accomplished by tapping a software icon on the screen. The switch isn’t instantaneous, the tablet need to perform a full reboot to enter the other operating system, but fortunately it normally only takes less than half a minute.
Storage
The 32GB eMMc in our review unit is split up into two partitions: Windows is on one (24GB), Android 4.4.4 is on another (8GB). There’s no direct, automatic sharing of photos, documents, or other app data between the two operating systems. The explanation by Cube makes sense – it is to prevent users from deleting important system files of one OS while they are running on the other OS. After the initial setup, the Windows 8.1 side has only 14GB storage available, which should be enough for a few programs, but a microSD card larger than 32GB is definitely a must if you also need to store media files. The Android 4.4.4 side has only 3GB available after booting into it for the first time, which should be enough for apps, but you still need the Micro SD card for other files, including the data package of those big applications and 3D games.
Performance
The Cube i10 Dual Boot comes with an Intel Atom Z3735F processor with Intel HD Graphics, 2GB of memory, and the aforementioned 32GB eMMc drive, the standard internal setup for budget Windows 8 and dual boot tablets. While the i10 Dual Boot isn’t really a powerhouse tablet and delivers equivalent performance with other Atom Bay-trail powered tablets such as the ASUS A100T, it is still measurably faster than those running older-generation Atom processors like the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
This can be seen in the benchmark scores, where the i10 Dual Boot scored 1,392 points in PCMark 8 test, topping the ThinkPad Tablet2 (957). Similar results were seen on the Peacekeeper test, where the Cube i10 Dual Boot scored 968, which is significantly faster than the ThinkPad Tablet 2 (951).
In the Android Benchmark tests, the i10 Dual Boot scored as much as some of the most powerful Android tablets out there.
Benchmarks aside, in the real world use, the i1.0 Dual Boot performed like a Champion in Android, handling even the heaviest tasks and some of the most graphic-intense games with ease. In Windows, things are a little different, all apps installed from the Windows 8 app store ran smoothly, with no lag or stutters at all. But like all other Bay-trail powered Windows slates, the i10 Dual Boot did struggle a little bit with demanding Windows desktop applications such as image and video editing programs. Fortunately, the most important productivity tool – the Microsoft Office, which was perfectly compatible with touchscreen operations, ran smoothly on this slate.
While the performance could be expected as we are all very familiar with the Intel Bay-trail series processors, the real issue which we need to mention here is the heat. The rear side of the i10 Dual Boot could easily get warm after working for a moment, and it got really heated running heavy-weight Windows desktop applications.
To sum things up, the i10 Dual Boot won't completely replace those i5 powered ultrabook-class laptop like the Cube i7 does, but it isn't a slouch like older Atom tablets were.
Battery life
Cube claims that the 6,600mAh battery in the i10 Dual Boot can offer 5 hours of video playback on a full charge, but we did manage to get a little more than that in our standard cngadget battery test. Playing a 1080P video on loop with 30% screen brightness (sufficient for indoor use) and 50% volume from the rear-facing speakers, the i10 Dual Boot lasted 5 hours and 37 minutes until auto shutdown.
Cameras
The i10 Dual Boot has two cameras on board, one on the front and one on the rear. The front-facing VGA camera can be used for video chatting, but only under decent lighting. The rear-facing 2MP camera cannot really do much in either photo or video mode, and we probably will never use it again after finishing this review.
Summary
The Cube i10 Dual Boot has the chops to replace both a mobile tablet and a business docking laptop for entertainment and daily Office tasks. It has full Windows 8.1 compatibility going for it, when connected with a business friendly keyboard cover through the docks, the i10 Dual Boot can really offer a decent amount of productivity. Whenever you needed entertainment, you can easily switch to the Android side and enjoy tons of touchscreen friendly apps. But with a dual boot tablet pried at only $113, you also have to find peace with some of its weaknesses: the not so great screen resolution, the below-average battery life and the heat while dealing with intense tasks.
The good
Price.
Screen size.
Metal chassis.
Full USB port
HDMI
The bad
Screen resolution
Battery life
Heat

Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?

gxthelord said:
Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?
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Normally 4-5 hours
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Normally 4-5 hours
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Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?

gxthelord said:
Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?
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it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
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jupiter2012 said:
it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
Sent from my SM-T325 using Tapatalk
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Were u able to root it on the Android side?

gxthelord said:
Were u able to root it on the Android side?
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it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.

jupiter2012 said:
it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.
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Great to know that xD. Btw bro do u get the dcin charger when u buy the tablet? Mine come with a 5V 2A charger for microusb. Not the one for its DC in.

Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.

gxthelord said:
Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.
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cant you even download and install the english language pack?
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk

jupiter2012 said:
cant you even download and install the english language pack?
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk
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yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.

gxthelord said:
yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.
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my unit has been sent to repair because i dropped it, i will contact cube and ask them for a solution to your issue.
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk

Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.

for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?

Is this the same thing only with Windows 10?
http://www.dealsmachine.com/best_263611.html

Legioner007 said:
for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?
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Are there really people buying Chuwi tablets? Never trust their after sale service.
Sent from my LG-F460K using XDA Free mobile app

gxthelord said:
Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.
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I flashed the REMIX rom for i10, now it is more useful.
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can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?

gxthelord said:
can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?
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After lookin it so long here is the link for the Cube Remix Rom. Would have appreciated it is TS share it earlier.
Remix OS: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=365
Stock Windows and Android Dual boot Firmware: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=350
PS. I'm not sure why but when flashing the stock firmwares, I lost my licensing for WIndows.

Dear all
i accidently uninstall insyde application for switching os to android
what should i do to access the android side of my cube i10?
thx a lot

Cube i7 Book review: smart design paired with decent internals

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Windows tablets have been gaining popularity since the release of Windows 8 and the Microsoft Surface Pro. Windows 10, which made its way to millions of PCs and tablets through free online upgrade last year, further enhanced the experiences of those two-in-one Windows devices.
Although Microsoft’s very own Surface and Surface Pro lines are still considered as the market-leading Windows tablets and also remain to be most popular, many other manufacturers, big and small, are trying to have a share in this fast-growing market of tablet & PC hybrids.
Cube, a Chinese brand mainly known for making budget Android tablets, has already released a bunch of Windows tablets since 2014. One of their most successful products was the Cube i7 Stylus, a Windows tablet which came with a Core M processor, 4GB RAM, a comfortable keyboard base and Wacom digitizer. Recently, Cube has released an upgraded version of the Cube i7 Stylus – the Cube i7 Book, which comes with many improvements such as an all new Skylake Core M3 processor, a USB Type-C port and a rotary keyboard base. The tablet itself is only priced at RMB2,199 ($329), even cheaper than the entry model of Microsoft Surface 3. You might need to spend more on the rotary keyboard base and a Wacom, but I am sure the added cost the two will be under $100.
Cube i7 Book Main Specs
OS: Windows 10 Home
Screen: 10.6-inch IPS, 10-point multi-touch, IGZO
Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (16:9)
CPU: Intel Skylake Core-M 6Y30
CPU Frequency: 0.9GHz (Base clock) – 2.2GHZ (Turbo clock)
GPU: Intel HD 515
RAM / Storage: 4GB DDR3L / 64GB SSD
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1
WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n, WiFi hotspot
Camera: 5MP back camera, 2MP front camera
Battery: 9,000mAh
Ports: Micro SD Card Slot, Micro USB 3.0 Port, USB Type-C port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack, DC Charging Port
Size: 273*172*9.6mm, Weight: 710.5g, Color: Black front and blue rear
Retail Package
The Cube i7 Book has the same packaging used on other Windows tablets from Cube. Inside the box you will find a wall charger, an OTG adapter (Micro USB 3.0 to full USB 3.0), a warranty card and a user manual.
Design
The i7 Book looks like a triplet brother of the Cube i7 Stylus and Cube iWork 11 Stylus. The front is dominated by a 10.6-inch IPS display, with relatively big bezel around. We do love the small bezel design deployed on the Huawei Mate Book and Samsung Galaxy TabPro S. But when we use the slate as a standalone tablet, we do need the bezel to rest out fingers on.
The slate has an Aluminum rear side, which is coated in blue. I used to praise the use of blue color on Cube’s Windows tablets, as it reduces the industrial feel of the device. However, Cube seems to use this color combination in all of their Windows tablets, and it feels quite boring. Maybe it is just me who have this feeling because I have tested many of Cube’s tablets, first-time buyers may still appreciate the aesthetic.
Unlike the Huawei Matebook and Samsung Galaxy TabPro S, both of which only come with a single USB Type-C port and a headphone jack, the i7 Book still offers a slew of ports and slots. On the left side you will find a headset jack, a Micro USB 3.0 port, a 3.5mm DC charging port and a Micro SD card slot which supports cards up to 128GB.
There is also a USB Type-C port which can be transformed into a full USB port or an HDMI port, or both if you have the right adapter. I used the type-C adapter for my Macbook and it works brilliantly with the i7 Book.
The keyboard port can be found on the bottom side of the slate, this time it is an 11 contact magnetic port, as opposed to the 5-contact port we have seen on other Cube’s Windows tablets. So the magnetic force which draws the tablet and the keyboard could be potentially stronger.
If the Huawei Mate Book and the Samsung Galaxy TabPro S represent the design of Windows tablets in 2016, the Cube i7 Book still feels like a product from early 2015. The slate itself measures 273*172*9.6mm, and weighs just 710g— light enough for one-handed use with a stylus. As the tablet has a metallic build, it feels very solid, and could survive some pressure or even occasional drops. With the keyboard base attached, the total weight comes to 1.1 kilograms, still on the lighter end of the convertible tablet range.
Display and sound
The Cube i7 Book sports a 10.6-inch full HD IPS display, manufactured by Samsung. Although not as exciting as the AMOLED panel on the Samsung Galaxy TabPro S, it is still quite decent and offers a lot in terms of sharpness, colors and viewing angle. The brightness of the panel is towards the lower end of Windows tablets, but it is way more than enough for indoor use.
The sound quality of the side-facing speakers is in the same class of the Microsoft Surface Pro 3, and it is not a compliment. Although everything is clear and easy to make out, the bass is muddled, and there is not enough volume for you to listen to music or podcasts in a large bedroom. External audio systems such as a speaker or headphones are highly recommended.
Input mechanism
The Cube i7 Book came with five distinct input options. There’s the touchscreen, the optional Wacom Pen ($30), and the keyboard base, which in addition to its keys offers a touchpad, you can also connect the slate with a mouse.
Touchscreen
The touchscreen felt great in our tests. The surface was smooth and consistent, as you’d expect, and gestures were all correctly registered. Unfortunately, the screen is not made of Corning Gorilla scratch-resistant glass, but only a standard soda lime glass panel, a screen protector is necessary if you don’t want any marks on your screen after a long time of using the tablet.
Pen
If you want more precision than your greasy fingers can offer, the optional Wacom pen delivers. It makes stylus input quite natural, and works well with the Windows desktop thanks to its built-in buttons. Hover a bit above the screen and you’ll see a pointer, which makes it easy to avoid accidentally tapping a button or icon.
Drawing and taking notes with the pen is also quite easy, although it isn’t as comfortable as drawing on a paper due to the glossiness of the screen, the experiences are still quite similar. The Wacom pen supports 1,024 levels of pressure, so you can easily draw lines with different weight. This makes the i7 Book much more usable as a standalone tablet, as you can actually write things down on it and won’t always feel the need of a keyboard for input.
Rotary keyboard base
Keyboards for tablets are always somewhat uncomfortable to use. I have personally struggled to find my top typing pace with the Surface Type Cover and the stock Bluetooth keyboard for the Acer ICONIA W700. The keyboard bases for Cube i7 and i7 Stylus were actually more comfortable to type on than average tablet keyboards, but they were also very thick and heavy.
The i7 Book comes with an all new rotary keyboard base, which is, in my opinion, better designed than any other tablet keyboard. Not only can it instantly turn the tablet into a laptop, you can also use it as a stand to support the tablet in many different modes.
The screen can be adjusted from 0 to 120 degrees, limited, but still a huge improvement from the docking mechanism of the original i7 and i7 Stylus, which can only have a fixed angle.
Although the keyboard base still doesn’t quite measure up to the keyboard on an average laptop, it comes pretty close. The keys are well-spaced, and give enough feedback for touch typists to develop a flow. Of course, certain compromises had to be made to fit a full keyboard into such a small dock, so don’t expect the full laptop experience. The depth of each keystroke is noticeably shorter, which dampens the tactile experience. With that said, this is still one the closest things to a laptop keyboard available for any tablet, and is among the best tablet keyboards we’ve used.
The keyboard base also features a trackpad, which supports lots of gestures. There are also distinct left and right click zones to give you an experience which is similar to using a mouse.
You also get two additional full USB 2.0 ports with the keyboard base attached, one on the left, and one on the right. Which further enhances the usability of the device.
Windows 10
The Cube i7 Book ships with Windows 10 Home and a valid license. Thankfully, the tablet comes with no bloatware, and you don’t need to uninstall anything before using it.
You can install Office Mobile for free from Windows Store, but it is always a must to have the desktop version of Microsoft Office for more productivity, and the newer versions (Office 2013, Office 365 and Office 2016) all support touchscreen and stylus input very well.
There are a few other applications I strongly recommend for the i7 Book and all Windows tablets with stylus support. One Note for Windows, WRITEit, Squid, PAINT are all applications to make the best of your Wacom Pen.
Performance
The Cube i7 Book is powered by a Skylake Core M3-6Y30 processor, which isn’t as powerful as the i3, i5 or i7 processors used in high-end Windows tablets and ultrabooks, as it seeks to balance performance, efficiency and portability. There is also 4GB of RAM on board to take care of multi-tasking and 64GB of SSD for internal storage for apps and files.
Our Cinebench R10 scores show just how much this processor can do. The single core rating was 4,280, and the multi-core score was 8,424. The Cube i7 Book can keep up with most Windows 10 tablets on the market right now, and that includes the Surface Pro 4.
In the Cinebench R15 Open GL test, the i7 Book handily beat all the other tablets we compared it with, and in the CPU test, it also scored higher than the Huawei Matebook and Samsung Galaxy TabPro S, although still behind the i5 Powered Surface Pro 3.
In the Fritz Chess Benchmark, the i7 Book was also returned a very decent score of 4,030.
In the PCMark 8 Home Accelerated test, the Cube i7 scored 2,785, which is better than the other Core M powered tablets we have tested, including the entry model of Surface Pro 4 (2,750) and the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Tablet (2,675).
In the cross-platform Geekbench 3 test, the Cube i7 Book scored 2,404 in single-core and 4,682 in Multi-core, better than the i3 version of Surface Pro 3 (1,566 & 3,235), the ivy-bridge i5 powered Acer W700 (2,064 & 4,378) and the Core M powered model of Surface Pro 4 (2,339 & 4,429).
We also ran other Benchmark tests on the i7 Book, and were returned some pretty decent scores. From the numbers, we can tell that the Core M3 in the Cube i7 Book is on par with the Haswell Core i3 in the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 and betters the ivy-bridge Core i5 in the Acer ICONIA W700, betters the Atom Cherry Trail processors in the Surface 3 and other budget Windows 2-in-1s, but not as powerful as the Haswell i5 and Skylake i5 used in the Surface Pro 3 and 4. Core M is built for efficiency but, in certain situations, it can perform very well.
The benchmark scores are reflected in day-to-day usage, the Cube i7 Book performs general productivity tasks easily. Performance was so good that we forgot this entire machine was crammed into a tablet form factor, thinking of it instead as a full-blown laptop. Browsing the web and writing were no problem, but neither were more processor intensive tasks such as unzipping a large compressed file. Atom based tablets, including the Surface 3 and ASUS T100HA, suffered a bit with this kind of tasks. But the Core M3 chip is competent, and the 4GB memory allows you to handle a decent amount of multi-tasking.
You shouldn’t really even consider running an intensive 3D game on the i7 Book, but it can chew through some basic 3D tasks, thanks to the improved Intel HD515 GPU.
As fast as the i7 Book could be in your everyday tasks, it is still a tablet, and can’t really replace a workstation desktop or laptop.
Storage
The Cube i7 Book offers a Foresee O1229B solid state drive, with 64GB of storage space. There is a Micro SD card slot to help expand the storage, but you can add no more than 128GB.
The Speed of the internal SSD is generally slower than the drives in other high-end Windows tablets, but much faster compared to the eMMc used in those Atom based Windows slates. Our AS SSD benchmark showed a read speed of 481.21 megabytes per second, and a write speed of 153.87MB/s. That’s significantly slower than the Surface Pro 4 (822.36mb/s & 347.34mb/s) and Surface Book (1,012.33mb/s and 498.74mb/s), but on par with and even betters most of the Windows tablets currently on sale.
Temperature
As with other Core M powered tablets, there are no fans in the Cube i7 Book, meaning you’ll never hear it no matter how hot it gets, and it will get hot occasionally.
After running a few benchmark tests, Ludashi reported a CPU temperature higher than 80 degrees centigrade, and the rear side of the tablet felt quite warm, and unpleasant for the my hands to hold.
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
The Cube i7 Book features an Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 chip to take care of internet connection, and it was pretty solid in our test. Even when there were two walls and 10 meters between the tablet and the router, it could still reach its top downloading and uploading speeds. Bluetooth 4.0 is also on board to establish easy connections to wireless speakers and input devices.
Battery life
The Cube i7 Book features an 8,600mAh battery, on par with the original i7 Stylus but slightly smaller than the battery inside the Huawei Matebook. I test battery life using a looped HD video, playing until the battery finally gives out. Here, the i7 Book performed slightly below average—still, at 6 hours, 50 minutes, it delivers pretty close to an all-work-day computing experience.
Cameras
There are two cameras on the Cube i7 Book, a 2MP front-facing camera and a 5MP rear-facing camera. The front camera naturally takes care of video chatting. I used to say that the rear-facing camera on tablets are not necessary, well, I was wrong. The Huawei Matebook doesn’t offer a rear camera, and once when I was chatting with a friends on Skype, and wanted to show him the things I was looking at, I needed to flip the tablet around and use the front-facing camera to do that, and I didn’t even know whether I framed what I needed to show because the screen is not facing towards me.
With that said, both cameras on the i7 Book are not good at all. Even when there is proper lighting, Photos can still have a lot of noises. Smartphones of even the lowest end could do a better job at taking pictures.
Verdict
The Cube i7 Book is not a perfect 2-in-1, but it is a very good one. It exceeds the Microsoft Surface 3 on almost every benchmark, and offers a much nicer keyboard. In some ways, the i7 Book even manages to compete with the entry level model of Surface Pro 4, with similar processing power and graphics capability. The display, while not perfect, is in line with the competition. And a unique docking system gives users the ability to use the tablet in many different modes, something very few competing Windows 10 tablet currently offers.
The Cube i7 Book offers all this, and is competitive on price. With a Core M processor and 4GB of RAM, it is priced at only $399, lower than the most basic version of Microsoft Surface 3, which sports a much weaker Atom Cherry Trail Z8700 processor and 2GB of RAM. Also, accessories of the i7 Book are much cheaper than those of the Surface. The Wacom Pen is only $39, and the keyboard base, which looks and feels much more premium than the Surface Type Cover, is also only priced at $59.
The main weaknesses of the i7 Book are the battery life and the temperature. The battery life is below average in the Windows tablets category, and the i7 Book can get unpleasantly hot during intense tasks. Also, it doesn’t look as modern as the Huawei Matebook and the Samsung Galaxy TabPro S, I personally consider those two as the best looking two-in-one Windows devices currently available.
Still, the Cube i7 is a great alternative to the Surface 3, and betters the latter and most of the similarly priced tablets in almost every aspect. It could also give the awkward iPad Pro and Jide REMIX Ultra tablet a run for their money, using iOS and Android for work is simply a joke, Windows can still do everything much better when it comes to productivity tasks.

Please watch our video review here: https://youtu.be/RW2wPfMsdhE

jupiter2012 said:
Please watch our video review here: https://youtu.be/RW2wPfMsdhE
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How hot does it get exactly, how much higher than 80C?

Is this tablet compatible with all Wacom stylus models or only specific ones? I've also heard some Samsung Galaxy Note Stylus's work too?

Hello, thank you for the review
I ordered mine on Sunday on aliexpress and I shall have to receive the tablet (with keyboard&stylus) in 3 weeks
About the problem of temp, there is mods to decrease it (you have to open the tablet).

I'd also like to know about the compatibility with other wacom stylus'
I found the answers to the other two questions at techtablet.com - http://techtablets.com/2016/07/cube...ck-first-impressions-hands-first-impressions/
The other question is regarding charging - can you charge the tablet through either of the USB port (micro 3.0 or Type C)? Yes, it can charge through this port
Is the storage an M2 SSD that is removable? I've been burned by EMMC on tablets that have died so want to transfer my storage to a new device in the event of a failure. Yes, this is an internal M2 SSD

Thirtybird said:
I'd also like to know about the compatibility with other wacom stylus'
I found the answers to the other two questions at techtablet.com - http://techtablets.com/2016/07/cube...ck-first-impressions-hands-first-impressions/
The other question is regarding charging - can you charge the tablet through either of the USB port (micro 3.0 or Type C)? Yes, it can charge through this port
Is the storage an M2 SSD that is removable? I've been burned by EMMC on tablets that have died so want to transfer my storage to a new device in the event of a failure. Yes, this is an internal M2 SSD
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According to Chris @tech Tablet's video review other Wacom stylus will work including Samsung Note stylus.
Also he confirms the SSD is replaceable as well.

Thanks for the nice write-up.
Can you please advise how bad is the sound quality and volume on this tablet? I know it's probably hard to describe and it's always subjective but from what I noticed all reviews mention this so it has to be quite bad. I know the sound is thin, lacks bass and is not very loud but is it possible to watch a movie during the day (with some background noise) without headphones or external speakers?
Also did you have a chance to test USB speed on this one? Tech Tablets mentioned it's only limited to USB 2.0 speed. Cheers.

Did anybody find a powerbank that allowed you to charge the tablet via the USB C port? From my own attempts and what I've read online it seems that even though quick charge should deliver the necessary 12V, I tried a Tronsmart powerbank and wasn't able to make it work either from the Quickcharge port or the USB C port. Other people seem to have similar experiences, so any hints to those that work would be welcome!

czajunia said:
Thanks for the nice write-up.
Can you please advise how bad is the sound quality and volume on this tablet? I know it's probably hard to describe and it's always subjective but from what I noticed all reviews mention this so it has to be quite bad. I know the sound is thin, lacks bass and is not very loud but is it possible to watch a movie during the day (with some background noise) without headphones or external speakers?
Also did you have a chance to test USB speed on this one? Tech Tablets mentioned it's only limited to USB 2.0 speed. Cheers.
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i just got my tablet and the speakers are terrible... But they work, i dont find them to quiet, they are loud enough to watch a movie. But the sound quality will make your ears bleed if you watch a full movie

heatfire said:
i just got my tablet and the speakers are terrible... But they work, i dont find them to quiet, they are loud enough to watch a movie. But the sound quality will make your ears bleed if you watch a full movie
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Thanks for the confirmation. I decided to go for Cube iWork10. I guess I am gonna get comparable sound quality

IS it worth upgrading from i7 stylus to i7 book???! performance and gaming ??

Hi, can we install androidt to this tablet?

Regarding updating, it depends, as always. If you need the better WiFi card or the transformer style keyboard dock or the USB c port, or if you're after the last drop of performance, maybe. I haven't got the older model, but I think the performance difference is supposedly around 30%. I guess for me that wouldn't justify an upgrade, but if the other changes are appealing/important enough, it might be worth it.
As for android, you can definitely run remixOS on it and I suspect also other varieties of Android-x86. But notice that they are all running on kernel 4.4 or so, which doesn't make good use of the power saving of the skylake cpu, so it's running full power most of the time, which reduces battery life of course. Hopefully, there'll be a way to get a newer kernel (4.6 upwards) soon, that should help with that issue. Apart from that remix seems to be working OK, although I haven't tried a whole lot yet.

Windows 8.1 camera drivers
Does anyone have Windows 8.1 image/iso with full working drivers? Maybe mirror from official Cube baidu images?
Or just drivers themselves?
Can't find working drivers for both cameras. Please, help. Windows 8.1 x64.

Are there driver for the keyboard. More specifically the touchpad? Under settings there are no touchpad settings. I want to disable the win10 gestures. I am getting sick of the task view always popping up.

Regarding the touchpad, I think they mentioned some registry hack you need to do to disable touchpad gestures on techtablets.com, so maybe have a look there (I haven't been using windows enough to care about disabling it, although I also find it quite annoying when I'm on windows).
On a different note, since there was a question about Android above and I just mentioned remix os, there is a different project porting android to the x86 framework which is working relatively well. It's called Bliss-x86 and can be found here on xda (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3534657).
I've got a post there describing how it worked on the cube i7 book a month ago or so. Some things are still not ideal, there still seems to be some process forcing the CPU to run circles even when idle, so it probably wasn't just the kernel on remix as I suspected above. But overall quite worth trying out.

franzli said:
Regarding the touchpad, I think they mentioned some registry hack you need to do to disable touchpad gestures on techtablets.com, so maybe have a look there (I haven't been using windows enough to care about disabling it, although I also find it quite annoying when I'm on windows).
On a different note, since there was a question about Android above and I just mentioned remix os, there is a different project porting android to the x86 framework which is working relatively well. It's called Bliss-x86 and can be found here on xda (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3534657).
I've got a post there describing how it worked on the cube i7 book a month ago or so. Some things are still not ideal, there still seems to be some process forcing the CPU to run circles even when idle, so it probably wasn't just the kernel on remix as I suspected above. But overall quite worth trying out.
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Thanks! I tried asking this over there but I am unable to post. Not only that, but I cannot even send an email using the "Contact Us" link. I will try searching over there again.

CHUWI Lapbook SE - 13.3" IPS FHD | Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake) | 4GB | 32GB + 128GB

CHUWI Lapbook SE - 13.3" IPS FHD | Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake) | 4GB | 32GB + 128GB
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CPU: Intel Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake)
RAM: 4GB DDR4 2133MHz (Single-Channel)
* 1x4GB DDR4 2400MHz running at 2133MHz (S5RG2Q20CMS?)
eMMC: Sandisk DF4032 32GB*
* Speed: ~157 Read [MB/s] and ~113 Write [MB/s]
SSD: M.2 2280 SATA3 FORESEE FSGGMNC-128G 128GB*
* Speed: ~537 Read [MB/s] and ~439 Write [MB/s]
Audio Codec: Realtek HD Audio (can't find the precise model)
WiFi/Bluetooth: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165
Sensors: Hall Sensor
Touchpad: Hantick HTIX5288 (recognized as Precision Touchpad)
Ports: 2x USB 3.0 (one for each side, both running at full speed), 1x Mini-HDMI 2.0 Output, 1x Headphone Jack
SD Card Reader: Realtek RTS5129 (USB 2.0)
Security: Trusted Platform Module 2.0
Front-facing Camera: 2.0MP Photos - 720p30 Videos (Generic USB)
Speakers: 4x (declared, not confirmed yet) with the sound coming out of the Keyboard
Battery: 2x 3.8V/5000 mAh cells = 7.6V 38Wh* (37Wh from the BIOS)
* Guangdong Pow-Tech New Power - PT 2877164-2S (2ICP3/77/164)
Power Supply: Xinspower A241-1202000D DC 12V/2A 3.5mm*10mm
Operating System: Windows 10 Home x64 (Multi-language)
* Genuine License
Real Weight: 1441g
Real Size: 31.7 x 21.6 x 1.43 cm
Extras: Backlit Keyboard and Logo, Aluminum Chassis with Plastic
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Internals:
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Drivers:
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CHUWI Lapbook SE at chuwi.com
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Based on @Wootever thread layout.

Backlight Bleeding issue
Just like what happened in the past with the CHUWI Lapbook Air (1st batch, latest ones are not affected), also the Lapbook SE is affected by the same annoying issue. Basically, you need to be lucky in order to get a unit with a perfectly glued screen until they fix the issue in the production line.
Full-quality photo album here: https://imgur.com/a/1pGcJ3S

Thermal Mod
Since this PC was reaching almost 90c under heavy-load with the locked 6W TDP, I decided to go ahead and open it. Unfortunately, many bad surprises came out.
ALERT: Be careful, there are some hidden screws that made me crazy while opening it since my Lapbook Air was not featuring them.
First of all, there was no thermal pad between the heatsink and the metal chassis (the one you see here has been added by me as a test).
Second, the heatsink seems to be recycled from another motherboard, but this is just the beginning. Due to this, the coating used to shield the Metal from the Motherboard was behaving as a barrier for the heat.
So, the only way to fix this mess is by removing the coating from both heatsink and metal chassis (because yes, they insulated also that). I used some abrasive paper (P400) to remove most of the coating.
The thermal pad has been replaced with thermal paste (Kyronaut by Thermal Grizzly).
By doing this process i have discovered that the thermal pad i used as test on the heatsink was too thin (0.5mm) so i have switched to something probably overkill (1.5mm), both pads were high-performance ones BTW for the best results.
Funny story, 1.5mm resulted to not be overkill at all because there is also a design issue with this heatsink, that is not being perfectly flat thus the distance between the die and the heatsink itself is quite big so this extra thickness of the 1.5mm Thermal Pad worked perfectly. NOTE: I would recommend to go for a copper pad instead of a thermal pad but i don't have any thermal adhesive so i decided to go for something safe.
Done! As a result of this process, temps dropped by ~10C at 6W, reaching maximum 65c under Prime95 maximum heat test.
Full-quality photo album can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/2Yi24vL​

For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).

For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).
By using ThrottleStop it is possible to unlock power limits properly: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/
The problem is that temps get too high even with the thermal mod, i may consider liquid metal as next experiment.

Update regarding my Thermal mod. I was not satisfied with the result so proceeded and this is what i had to do.
First of all, i switched to liquid metal (Conductonaut) so i had to insulate almost the whole motherboard.
Then, as you can see here, a small piece of heatsink has been removed since, due to the design flaw, it was causing it to be bent improperly with poor contact with the die.
The result is unfortunately not superb, but i am now able to stay with power limits unlocked (via Throttlestop) with no/minimum thermal throttling.

2160p60 Playback with no Power Limits

windows 10 on ssd
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?

Willower said:
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?
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Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.

Chromium OS
Chromium OS for Lapbook SE
This is a release candidate and the final release will be more polished and with a working built-in installer.
Downloads:
Chromium OS 68 Image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N8qNpLruVz3gJieWwReb2fqe-lirqUJ9/view?usp=sharing
Installation: Depending on the destination device, you may have to follow different installation guides.
- Internal SSD (for permanent installation): in order to avoid issues, you need Linux, so choose your preferred distro and boot it (a live USB is fine, you don't need to install it). Then follow this video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N17rPCj9ye8
- USB Devices (HDD/SSD/Flash Drives, for portable installation also known as Live USB, 16GB minimum): you can use both Windows and Linux. For Windows, just download Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/), choose your USB device, tick DD mode (instead of ISO) and proceed. For Linux, the video guide linked for the Internal SSD installation can be followed.
Known Bugs:
- Unavailable tap to click (the hardware click button works fine though)
- Broken Chromium OS Installer (disabled to avoid complains)
FAQ:
- Question: I can't find the Play Store as seen on Chromebooks, where is it?
- Answer: You won't find it until Google decides to make this feature available to the public.
- Question: The Laptop is stuttering and stops responding for a while, please help.
- Answer: It means that your External USB Device is painfully slow and have to consider to get a faster USB 3.0 device to avoid this.
- Question: Is the current image source-built? If yes, where is the kernel source as requested by GPL?
- Answer: No, the current release candidate build is based on another already built image thus i have no source code for it. I am waiting for the public source release in fix all remaining issues plus make the source code available.

Wow the maximum power usage is insane without any power limit enabled. Almost 21W without any active cooling is just too much to handle, i was lucky to get only a maximum of 85c thanks to my extreme thermal mod but i can't recommend to keep power limits completely off without doing it.

Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks

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Alberto96 said:
Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.
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I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?

vkashin said:
Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
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Yes, already tested.
tekadon said:
I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?
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I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.

Ssd
Alberto96 said:
Yes, already tested.
I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.
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My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values ​​vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.

tekadon said:
My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values ​​vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.
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Samsung 860 EVO M.2

Does somebody found a way to make camera work in Linux?

Hi, what settings do you have to change in TS in order to remove power limits on the N4100?
Thank you in advance.

Noob quick question
I majorly f-ed up my Chuwi SE. I thought I successfully cloned it to the 128 SSD, then deleted the eMMC. But, I now get this blue error screen.
Anyhoo. I'm trying to reinstall windows using the drivers the OP posted (thanks), and the windows + bios files on the chuwi site (slow going. Keeps getting network errors while dloading...). [sry, can't post outside link as I'm a new member. It is located on the official chuwi forums]
ANyway, my question. After I install windows (fingers crossed). How do I install the bios files that I downloaded from the chuwi forum? I downloaded them and they appear to be 4-5 different .efi files scattered about. How do I use these files, and do I need to install all of them? Many thanks in advance.

Hello... Post an HD photo of the motherboard, I'm interested to see the type of RAM installed