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My Moto X impression so far

This isn't so much for the people who have the phone, but I know a lot of people looking to buy the phone will read the reviews and visit general forum, so here it is:
What I love about it:
Touchless Control -- definitely put those iPhone 5s users in their place when they show off their fingerprint unlock. "Hey Google Now" gets recognized instantly, anywhere, and at almost any volume. I was explain it to someone about this feature in a noisy hallway with him holding my phone, and I was not even loud, and my phone woke up and started listening. Now I whisper it just to see it can hear me, and get super giddy and freaked out at the same time when it does...
Active Notification -- yeah yeah, I know you can download an app for it, but moto X's implementation is by far the best. It knows what you are doing. In the pocket? No problem. Out of the pocket, wake up right away. I don't even bother using the power button anymore. I just nudge the phone a bit when it's sitting on my desk, and the screen comes on. It's a beautiful thing, especially after switching from HTC One, and the One Mini, when the power button was so damn awkward to reach. Or you know, you can just wake it up by talking to it... Just say: open Gmail! and BOOM. It's there.
Assist -- again, Motorola got it right. This is how to make a rom. Assist has completely made my tasker useless... I was using tasker to silence my phone during appointments, at night, and play music and reply messages when I'm driving, now Moto X does all this, with minimal setup. I just let it do its thing, and it has gotten it right almost all the time. It also read your text messages when you are driving, which is pretty awesome.
What I dislike:
My biggest gripe... What is up with the vibration? It feels so mechanical and clunky, as if there is a robot squirrel in the phone grinding two titanium nuts together in its mouth to make the vibration. The long duration vibration is almost unbearable. C'mon Motorola, why would you skimp on something so important and basic?
The screen -- it's a decent screen, but after using the One, I would have to say it is nowhere near top notch. If a beautiful screen is a MUST for you, skip this phone. It's usable, but hardly from beautiful. When it's dim, I could almost see a hue of purple on everything. Pentile displays, I'm telling yah. The screen looks like my old GNex. I eventually liked my GNex because of the custom kernal could make the screen almost really really good, but on the Moto X, which leads to my last gripe...
The bootloader -- all you TMo and Rogers people are damn lucky. I really don't mind the bootloader so much, but I just want to root my phone. I know another root method will eventually come along, but man, Verizon and AT&T are making it difficult. Why do I want to root my phone? Well I happen to enjoy the Xposed framework and have been using it on almost all my other phones. It has completely replaced Rom flashing for me. I want my screen rotation in the quick setting menu damn it, is that too much to ask?
Well that's it. If you don't like to mess around your phone and can live with a robot squirrel and mediocre screen, this phone is for you...
For the owners of Moto X.. How are you feeling about the vibration and the screen? Any cool app or anything that doesn't require root to make the moto X experience better?

personally I like the vibration because it's easy for me to feel it on vibrate while I'm at work. And the screen looks just the same as the S4 I had to me, but some notice screens more than me. I agree with active notifications and all, and I love the twist motion to launch the camera. Only thing I don't like is how locked down it is. (Verizon). And the camera isn't great, so far I don't find the update to have helped too much

I feel like I either have absolutely no high expectations for vibration, or I have the only Moto X that vibrates normally. I haven't noticed any rattling on mine, and it's a really strong vibration. I like it.

holyevilcow said:
This isn't so much for the people who have the phone, but I know a lot of people looking to buy the phone will read the reviews and visit general forum, so here it is:
What I love about it:
Touchless Control -- definitely put those iPhone 5s users in their place when they show off their fingerprint unlock. "Hey Google Now" gets recognized instantly, anywhere, and at almost any volume. I was explain it to someone about this feature in a noisy hallway with him holding my phone, and I was not even loud, and my phone woke up and started listening. Now I whisper it just to see it can hear me, and get super giddy and freaked out at the same time when it does...
Active Notification -- yeah yeah, I know you can download an app for it, but moto X's implementation is by far the best. It knows what you are doing. In the pocket? No problem. Out of the pocket, wake up right away. I don't even bother using the power button anymore. I just nudge the phone a bit when it's sitting on my desk, and the screen comes on. It's a beautiful thing, especially after switching from HTC One, and the One Mini, when the power button was so damn awkward to reach. Or you know, you can just wake it up by talking to it... Just say: open Gmail! and BOOM. It's there.
Assist -- again, Motorola got it right. This is how to make a rom. Assist has completely made my tasker useless... I was using tasker to silence my phone during appointments, at night, and play music and reply messages when I'm driving, now Moto X does all this, with minimal setup. I just let it do its thing, and it has gotten it right almost all the time. It also read your text messages when you are driving, which is pretty awesome.
What I dislike:
My biggest gripe... What is up with the vibration? It feels so mechanical and clunky, as if there is a robot squirrel in the phone grinding two titanium nuts together in its mouth to make the vibration. The long duration vibration is almost unbearable. C'mon Motorola, why would you skimp on something so important and basic?
The screen -- it's a decent screen, but after using the One, I would have to say it is nowhere near top notch. If a beautiful screen is a MUST for you, skip this phone. It's usable, but hardly from beautiful. When it's dim, I could almost see a hue of purple on everything. Pentile displays, I'm telling yah. The screen looks like my old GNex. I eventually liked my GNex because of the custom kernal could make the screen almost really really good, but on the Moto X, which leads to my last gripe...
The bootloader -- all you TMo and Rogers people are damn lucky. I really don't mind the bootloader so much, but I just want to root my phone. I know another root method will eventually come along, but man, Verizon and AT&T are making it difficult. Why do I want to root my phone? Well I happen to enjoy the Xposed framework and have been using it on almost all my other phones. It has completely replaced Rom flashing for me. I want my screen rotation in the quick setting menu damn it, is that too much to ask?
Well that's it. If you don't like to mess around your phone and can live with a robot squirrel and mediocre screen, this phone is for you...
For the owners of Moto X.. How are you feeling about the vibration and the screen? Any cool app or anything that doesn't require root to make the moto X experience better?
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Just so we remain accurate, the screen on the Moto X is not PenTile, but uses the same array as the Galaxy Note 2 from Samsung. Infact, Samsung is the one that makes the screen on the Moto X.
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/5

samarth1 said:
Just so we remain accurate, the screen on the Moto X is not PenTile, but uses the same array as the Galaxy Note 2 from Samsung. Infact, Samsung is the one that makes the screen on the Moto X.
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/5
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nice one .

freak4dell said:
I feel like I either have absolutely no high expectations for vibration, or I have the only Moto X that vibrates normally. I haven't noticed any rattling on mine, and it's a really strong vibration. I like it.
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I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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eallan said:
I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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yeah i'm on my third, too. the first two had minor issues besides the vibration. the vibration was different on all 3, and seemed to get worse as i went along. looking back, i should have not nitpicked and just kept the first because it was nice and tight--none of this loud and rattley/loose nonsense that i have on the latest one, but hindsight is 20/20 i guess. 2 gsm dev editions and then an at&t that i have now, in case anyone's wondering. i saved over $300 getting a used at&t on this latest one.. at least that's how i'm justifying the imperfections this go-around.

So surprised you dont like the screen in comparison with the HTC One. I have both (got a Moto X after the One - which I was besotted with), the Moto X has darker blacks and deeper colours, I easily prefer it over the One. The one looks washed out in comparison - which I was really surprised about as I love the One screen.

Irky things
I have the VZW DEV edition. For the most part everything works great. I have issues where Music from Google Play over my blue tooth head set gets choppy when I'm active (walking, or moving about). My dialer quit suggest contact names when I'm dialing a number and telling me who's calling on incoming calls from contacts. It doesn't recognize my Motorola docks and if I have daydreamer mode set to run when connected to a charger or dock, it doesn't. I'm pretty disappointed with my $650 phone since my Bionic worked great in all these areas.

ranlil said:
I have the VZW DEV edition. For the most part everything works great. I have issues where Music from Google Play over my blue tooth head set gets choppy when I'm active (walking, or moving about). My dialer quit suggest contact names when I'm dialing a number and telling me who's calling on incoming calls from contacts. It doesn't recognize my Motorola docks and if I have daydreamer mode set to run when connected to a charger or dock, it doesn't. I'm pretty disappointed with my $650 phone since my Bionic worked great in all these areas.
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it doesn't sound like it, but if you think these are manufacturing issues with your particular phone, i've found that motorola customer service has no problem issuing a RMA for you.. i think you could do this anyway as long as it's within the window. their customer service people are a joke with trying to evaluate and fix the issue but they did refund my two GSM dev editions (one with bootloader unlocked). you could always try another one, and even return that and get back on the bionic until something else pops up. why they won't do straight up exchanges i have no idea. they lost my money when i bought a used AT&T the third time around.
however, for all its issues, this is probably my favorite phone ever.

To me the MotoX would be my only option if I went Android.
Main reasons:
- I really appreciate one-handed operation : The MotoX is just a little bit bigger than an iPhone 5 while having a much bigger screen. That makes it easy to reach both the top and bottom of the screen without having to shift my hand around every time to do so.
- The MotoX brought about a new, long-term, game changing feature (Always On Assistant) : It's not easy to bring about a Star Trek like feature which is actually really useful without killing the battery life. Motorola was the only phone to be able to accomplish this. Before the MotoX everyone thought that an always listening voice assistant would kill the battery life. This feature (along with TouchID on the 5s) are not given enough credit for their long term impact on the smartphone realm.
- Motorola was finally the first Android manufacturer to stop being whores to the spec war games : So many times I see android manufacturers cram in whatever specs they can to cater to the stat geeks, without any real thought as to what is actually needed. Motorola was finally the first to stop and ask "Hey, is a 1080p screen really needed over a 720p screen when the non-ocd consumer can't tell the difference anyways? All it really does is kill battery life!"
- I love the fact that the MotoX is assembled in the U.S. : The fact that Motorola took the profit hit to bring assembling jobs to America is a huge plus in my opinion. They could have simply lined their pockets further by having it assembled in China or wherever but they didn't. By doing this they also ensured that American customers would get a quick delivery when ordering online. A company that is willing to forgo extra profits in order to help the U.S. economy gets an A+ in my book.
- Near stock version of android : The skins that LG, HTC, and Samsung throw on their phones are cluttered and disgusting IMO. Not only that but having a manufacturers skin cluttered all over your handset makes it that much harder for them to put it on newer versions of android that come in the future. With the MotoX having a near stock version of android you know that the phone you are getting is clean but will also get future updates much quicker than other skinned handsets would.
- Active notifications look awesome : Instead of a random blinking LED (which is not always present on other handsets anyways) you get active notifications which only come up when the phone senses you are looking at it. Why doesn't everyone have this?
Other, more minor reasons:
- I like that Motorola gives the consumer choices : Even though I would get an all black version (with the back being woven), I still appreciate that Motorola would be the first android manufacturer to give the customer a real choice on colors.
- I really like Moto Skip : Being able to skip past my lock screen is a really convenient time saving feature when you have a long, secure password which I also really appreciate on the 5s with touch ID.

Sounds like a decent chunk of you guys had an HTC one before the x.... Why did you make the jump? Im contemplating that very move (currently have a one)

Moto X only looks like pure android. I'm willing to bet that they have made tons of changes under the hood. This is why this phone may never get advice development. Good thing it's heavily optimized. Makes me wonder if it will be a 2 year phone.
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eallan said:
I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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indeed. whatever happened to 'building the x in the usa means fixing production issues much quicker.'

I only miss root for two things:
1) center clock
2) greenify
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DertyDOH said:
personally I like the vibration because it's easy for me to feel it on vibrate while I'm at work. And the screen looks just the same as the S4 I had to me, but some notice screens more than me. I agree with active notifications and all, and I love the twist motion to launch the camera. Only thing I don't like is how locked down it is. (Verizon). And the camera isn't great, so far I don't find the update to have helped too much
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Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?

meant2live218 said:
Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?
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I actually use it every time I launch the camera. Also I take a lot of pics while driving (bad habit yes), but I go past a classic car lot frequently and take pics sometimes of a new 60's muscle car they might have. I would hate going back to anything else

meant2live218 said:
Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?
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I only use it to show it off. Every time I have had to snap a pic I forget it's there.....
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droe411 said:
I only use it to show it off. Every time I have had to snap a pic I forget it's there.....
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I'm the complete opposite. I even use the twist gesture as a quick way to get into my camera gallery.

I've had a problem that's made me lose some great pics of my daughter. Sometimes when I activate using the twist motion, snap a pic, then go to look at it later, it's not in gallery. I've replicated it a few times. Stock and newest update. Not sure what the deal is there.
All in all: amazing phone. Love it.
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[Q] Active Display

Any news on whether active display will work with the GS5?
Like the moto x has.
Cheers

declan8888 said:
Any news on whether active display will work with the GS5?
Like the moto x has.
Cheers
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Best "Active Display" app out there... BY FREAKING FAR!! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.achep.activedisplay

declan8888 said:
Any news on whether active display will work with the GS5?
Like the moto x has.
Cheers
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One of the Moto X's most unique features is called Active Display. Whenever your screen is turned off, it pulses your notifications on the otherwise black screen. If you want to see a little more, just hold your finger on the notification icon. It's a thoughtful little touch, and part of the reason why the Moto X transcends its otherwise last-generation specs.
Samsung comes kinda close to Active Display with a feature called Smart Alerts. If new notifications have come in since the last time you picked up your phone, it will vibrate when you pick it up. Not really the same thing, but the intention is in the same ballpark.

Picked one up at Midnight at Best Buy, AMA / First Impressions

Got a 32GB black model at Best Buy at midnight, as they were open for the Call of Duty release.
Hardware - device is so thin. Easy to hold, and gorgeous. So far the screen seems really nice as well. For those hoping for a notification light, there isn't one. The thing on the bottom center is the ambient light sensor, I think. There's no "pulse notification light" option in Settings either, like my N5 5.0 Dev Preview has. Incidentally, my screen has quite a few yellow spots on it, and the back panel has one area that squishes and creaks when you hold it there. I actually have a Google Play order coming in as well, so I might return this one when that one gets here. The Boomsound speakers sound ok. They're honestly not as loud as I expected. I would say they're maybe as loud as my iPad 2's speakers were. Maybe. They're more full and all that ,but just not as loud as I had hoped.
Software - When I turned on my device, setup was pretty slick. It downloaded a 200+ MB update and installed it, got on my wireless and then proceeded if it wanted to do a restore based on my Nexus 5. I was eager to use the tap-to-setup method that has been hyped, but that was never an option given to me. It may be because my device has a broken NFC. I have tried several times to use my Nexus 5 to Beam something to my N9, and they have yet to even see each other when held together. I've used NFC A lot with friends in the past, mine seems broken.
25.61GB storage available for use in Storage
Build Number LRX21L
Kernel 3.10.40g07fc5e6 (Monday Oct 27)
This thing is fast. It breezes through apps and multitasking with ease. It also feels very premium.

dcdttu said:
Got a 32GB black model at Best Buy at midnight, as they were open for the Call of Duty release.
Hardware - device is so thin. Easy to hold, and gorgeous. So far the screen seems really nice as well. For those hoping for a notification light, there isn't one. The thing on the bottom center is the ambient light sensor, I think. There's no "pulse notification light" option in Settings either, like my N5 5.0 Dev Preview has. Incidentally, my screen has quite a few yellow spots on it, and the back panel has one area that squishes and creaks when you hold it there. I actually have a Google Play order coming in as well, so I might return this one when that one gets here. The Boomsound speakers sound ok. They're honestly not as loud as I expected. I would say they're maybe as loud as my iPad 2's speakers were. Maybe. They're more full and all that ,but just not as loud as I had hoped.
Software - When I turned on my device, setup was pretty slick. It downloaded a 200+ MB update and installed it, got on my wireless and then proceeded if it wanted to do a restore based on my Nexus 5. I was eager to use the tap-to-setup method that has been hyped, but that was never an option given to me. It may be because my device has a broken NFC. I have tried several times to use my Nexus 5 to Beam something to my N9, and they have yet to even see each other when held together. I've used NFC A lot with friends in the past, mine seems broken.
25.61GB storage available for use in Storage
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This thing is fast. It breezes through apps and multitasking with ease. It also feels very premium.
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Why not replace it now and cancel Play Store order?

Does it have the same kind of "soft touch" feel to the back as the 2013 Nexus 7?

I tried canceling it last night, but the order has moved to fulfillment. It can't be canceled.
I'm thinking i want it anyway, because their warranty is pretty easy. Or would Best Buy be better?

dcdttu said:
Got a 32GB black model at Best Buy at midnight, as they were open for the Call of Duty release.
Hardware - device is so thin. Easy to hold, and gorgeous. So far the screen seems really nice as well. For those hoping for a notification light, there isn't one. The thing on the bottom center is the ambient light sensor, I think. There's no "pulse notification light" option in Settings either, like my N5 5.0 Dev Preview has. Incidentally, my screen has quite a few yellow spots on it, and the back panel has one area that squishes and creaks when you hold it there. I actually have a Google Play order coming in as well, so I might return this one when that one gets here. The Boomsound speakers sound ok. They're honestly not as loud as I expected. I would say they're maybe as loud as my iPad 2's speakers were. Maybe. They're more full and all that ,but just not as loud as I had hoped.
Software - When I turned on my device, setup was pretty slick. It downloaded a 200+ MB update and installed it, got on my wireless and then proceeded if it wanted to do a restore based on my Nexus 5. I was eager to use the tap-to-setup method that has been hyped, but that was never an option given to me. It may be because my device has a broken NFC. I have tried several times to use my Nexus 5 to Beam something to my N9, and they have yet to even see each other when held together. I've used NFC A lot with friends in the past, mine seems broken.
25.61GB storage available for use in Storage
Build Number LRX21L
Kernel 3.10.40g07fc5e6 (Monday Oct 27)
This thing is fast. It breezes through apps and multitasking with ease. It also feels very premium.
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Could you share some apps?? Newer calender, keep, messenger,...

iamnotkurtcobain said:
Could you share some apps?? Newer calender, keep, messenger,...
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I wish I could. I have it at work and can't unlock the bootloader or root yet. It does, however, have all the new apps. Calendar is very nicely done, with its pictures and all.

Damn. Didn't the N7 get root like a week before launch

dcdttu said:
I wish I could. I have it at work and can't unlock the bootloader or root yet. It does, however, have all the new apps. Calendar is very nicely done, with its pictures and all.
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You can send the apps via adb!!! No need for root or anything.

One of the most important questions: how's the battery life?

Phonearena.com did a battery text and it's best in class even over the note pro 12.2

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You can send the apps via adb!!! No need for root or anything.
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I tried ./adb pull /data/app/com.google.android.calendar but it said does not exist.
I know that's the name because I did a package list beforehand. Maybe the location is wrong?

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I tried ./adb pull /data/app/com.google.android.calendar but it said does not exist.
I know that's the name because I did a package list beforehand. Maybe the location is wrong?
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Wrong location I guess

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I tried ./adb pull /data/app/com.google.android.calendar but it said does not exist.
I know that's the name because I did a package list beforehand. Maybe the location is wrong?
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Maybe in /system/app or /system/priv-app ????

AlexusJ said:
One of the most important questions: how's the battery life?
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Good question. I really won't know, being that this is day 1. Also, I think my device is a bit defective as it gets pretty hot sometimes and NFC doesn't work. Initial impressions should be all over the place this week.

dcdttu said:
I tried ./adb pull /data/app/com.google.android.calendar but it said does not exist.
I know that's the name because I did a package list beforehand. Maybe the location is wrong?
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The file name is now also a folder name in l. So add a / and the file name again and it should work.

Can you take any photo of these yellow spots your mentioned? So we know what to look out for.
Did yours also have flashlighting (backlight bleed) on the lower bottom right/left corners? Here's a video that shows what it looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI_YbrOYWD0

joshuabg said:
Maybe in /system/app or /system/priv-app ????
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L preview has apps in /system/app/calendar/calendar.apk for instance. There are apps in the priv-app also, of course. Do the final release apps appear to be different from the preview versions?
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Looks like there is heat issues, light bleed, bad performance and bad build quality. Mines waiting at best buy, but I'm having second thoughts. Looking at galaxy tab s 8.4 a little harder now. Its 340 on amazon with same day delivery.
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I picked one up about an hour ago, 32gb black, from best buy.
Couldn't wait for my play store order to arrive
I do not see any yellow spots or backlight bleed of note.
There is some along the bottom of the screen but comparible or less to any other tablet I have owned. Shield tablet, Note 10.1 2014, Note 8.4 Pro, just to list a couple.
Extremely snappy performance and I have note noticed any heat issues though I haven't yet had much time to put it through its paces. So far i'm rather pleased but time will tell...

Codeman, how does is feel. Is the back flexing?
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Double tap2wake and notification LED: Two things that would do the device super!

Guys.. I'm searching the web (mostly here in xda) to make those two features work on my device, but I can't find something!
Can't we do this awesome led under the earphone works as notification led?
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Why would you want those features when you have something better, Moto Display? Pick the phone up and it will light up the device, simply unlock it like usual; no need to explain notifications I believe.
It is redudant on the X, probably you're used to it from past devices or kernels you applied before.

I could see the light if you don't keep your phone near you, but just wave your hand over the phone, just the same as the knock I had on my G3. I still had to unlock it after the knock. Just do the wave and unlock like rogeriorp said.

Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.

Search moto x led in the play store
If you want a smartphone, get Android. If you want a TOY, get iphone

I do like moto display but I miss the notification light. Just got my replacement phone today so I am going to use it for a little bit and then unlock the bootloader and root so I can mess with it a bit.
I never had a phone with double tap to awake but that is a nice feature, but as has been said if you use the moto feature all you need to do is wave your hand.

TokedUp said:
Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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So you're basically killing the so called best phone feature of the X line up useless, and disabled it for battery life? That is not what the Moto X is about, it is about the user experience. I read it here that people thought it would be a Nexus with extra features, but don't like them after a while and decide to use it as a Nexus device. I am fine with that, to each their own, but it is enfuriating. How would you call this phone a success if not by it's unique features out of the box, with design made to work with it with sensors and everything.. instead you're killing it in favor of battery, like what? Really? :|
That is probably the beauty of android, everyone uses the device as they see fit but I don't see the brightness of killing a phone's features as good as this over standard stuff.

I like ambient display more. But some of you dont have that as an option since you may not be on 5.0. To each their own. I would take battery life over a feature I wouldn't use any day.

I am rooted but nothing seems to work, neither the notification led, nor the double tap!
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I find the opposite. Moto Display is better on batter life than ambient display in Lollipop. Not to mention just works better. Plus I also think it is one of the unique and best features of Moto X. Much better than double tap to wake...just pick up your phone and slide...done. or pick up my phone...check the time, put it back in my pocket and never have to turn the display on. Awesomeness!
TokedUp said:
Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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Having both a xt1095 and a onePlus one I can say dt2w is just better. I find my self having to wave my thumb over the it sensor trying to wake it again. Its a PiTA one handed. Alternatively with dt2w your thumb is already on the screen.
I wouldn't mind it if I could just wave the phone over my leg screen down to trip the sensors but that doesn't work really either.
Worse yet you swipe down to unlock after swiping up on lollipop notification screen....Moto has work to do. Honestly my X is going to get benched till updates roll out. It has so many bugs on lollipop that I'm disappointed.

TokedUp said:
Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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I'd hardly call Moto Display a battery hog. Just like the 2013 X, it uses a low power core so it's designed to not use much battery. I did an experiment when I first got the phone and it literally added MAYBE an extra 1% of standby battery drain in a 24 hour period. I think you might have had other issues, honestly.
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joeavery2 said:
Having both a xt1095 and a onePlus one I can say dt2w is just better. I find my self having to wave my thumb over the it sensor trying to wake it again. Its a PiTA one handed. Alternatively with dt2w your thumb is already on the screen.
I wouldn't mind it if I could just wave the phone over my leg screen down to trip the sensors but that doesn't work really either.
Worse yet you swipe down to unlock after swiping up on lollipop notification screen....Moto has work to do. Honestly my X is going to get benched till updates roll out. It has so many bugs on lollipop that I'm disappointed.
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And that's why I'm staying on KitKat. So many people are way too quick to update just because they want to have the latest software for no other reason than having the latest software. I actually had someone on xda tell me I don't deserve my Nexus 5 because I'm keeping it on KitKat. Sorry, but I like my phone to just work, and KitKat works beautifully on both my X and N5. Just toss a few Xposed modules in there and I'm a happy camper.

I've had such a different experience. I updated to lollipop on day one and have had no major issues what so ever. Battery life is great (better than kitkat) and the phone is super fast. I really think it is a user experience and depends on what apps you have on the phone as well as how the phone is used. I love the Moto X and honestly have bought several phones this year. HTC M8, Galaxy S5, LG G3, Xpeira Z3 and the X. I kept combing back to the Moto X...in fact I just sold all of them and kept the Moto...just feels better in hand and all around the best phone out of that bunch for me. I do wish it had the G3 camera on it though...that was the best camera of the bunch...surprisingly I thought the Z3 would have been the best camera but G3 performed better for me. I really hope Moto can issue an update fixing the poor camera quality. That is the one thing that really does bug me.
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I'd hardly call Moto Display a battery hog. Just like the 2013 X, it uses a low power core so it's designed to not use much battery. I did an experiment when I first got the phone and it literally added MAYBE an extra 1% of standby battery drain in a 24 hour period. I think you might have had other issues, honestly.
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And that's why I'm staying on KitKat. So many people are way too quick to update just because they want to have the latest software for no other reason than having the latest software. I actually had someone on xda tell me I don't deserve my Nexus 5 because I'm keeping it on KitKat. Sorry, but I like my phone to just work, and KitKat works beautifully on both my X and N5. Just toss a few Xposed modules in there and I'm a happy camper.
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You dont find that Moto display turns on when u dont need it? I had mine sitting on the table in front of me and randomly the screen would turn on for no reason. Happened time and time again. Plus if u use a PIN then u need to bypass Moto Display then the Android lock screen, so its like having 2 lock screens over lapping eachother. I dont know how u could think using all the sensors on front would lead to less battery usage. Ambient works way better for me. Whatever, not like I care how anyone uses their phone. So happy you guys love Moto Display! :|

If someone of you have had an LG G2 or G3 would understand why double tap and notification led is way better than this moto display or the other feature on lollipop!
In most cases I leave my phone sitting in the table and I'm some meters away, I see the led notify me and go to the table just double tap the screen and I'm ready!
Not to mention that curved back that makes it difficult to use the phone when it sits in the table.. I don't want to take the phone to my hand each time I want to type something, I want it on the table!
You'll tell me now.. "why you bought this phone??"
Honestly.. even if I don't like much of the features that "doesn't have" I love the feeling of this phone, I like it very much!!
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patik14 said:
If someone of you have had an LG G2 or G3 would understand why double tap and notification led is way better than this moto display or the other feature on lollipop!
In most cases I leave my phone sitting in the table and I'm some meters away, I see the led notify me and go to the table just double tap the screen and I'm ready!
Not to mention that curved back that makes it difficult to use the phone when it sits in the table.. I don't want to take the phone to my hand each time I want to type something, I want it on the table!
You'll tell me now.. "why you bought this phone??"
Honestly.. even if I don't like much of the features that "doesn't have" I love the feeling of this phone, I like it very much!!
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I had a G3 and I really don't miss tap to wake as I can just wave my hand over the display and get the same result. I do miss tap to sleep though. If I decide to go back to nova launcher, I know there's apps that lock your phone when you set double tap to that app.

gotzaDroid said:
I had a G3 and I really don't miss tap to wake as I can just wave my hand over the display and get the same result. I do miss tap to sleep though. If I decide to go back to nova launcher, I know there's apps that lock your phone when you set double tap to that app.
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Also, since the phone has a rounded back, you can just tap the phone and it rocks causing the screen to turn on. Sometimes when I am playing Xbox and my phone is on the table in front of me I just lightly kick the table and the vibration turns the screen on. I have Nova and use the double tap to lock, however, doing this somehow makes the Smart Unlock not work. If I lock by the side button, then turn the phone on I can use my face to unlock. If I double tap Nova (or use any app that turns the screen off), then turn the phone on I can't use my face to unlock. It is very weird and not sure why.

TokedUp said:
You dont find that Moto display turns on when u dont need it? I had mine sitting on the table in front of me and randomly the screen would turn on for no reason. Happened time and time again. Plus if u use a PIN then u need to bypass Moto Display then the Android lock screen, so its like having 2 lock screens over lapping eachother. I dont know how u could think using all the sensors on front would lead to less battery usage. Ambient works way better for me. Whatever, not like I care how anyone uses their phone. So happy you guys love Moto Display! :|
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I was under the impression that amibent display wakes up the snapdragon, while moto display uses a secondary low power chip, which should save some battery. Moto display uses three IR emitters and one IR sensor, those should consume minute levels of current.
Getting through two lockscreens does kind of suck though.

If double-tap-to-wakeup was important for me then I had an OnePlusOne invite and I would have bought that which is way cheaper than MotoX and has got better specs on the paper. But I handed that invite to someone else and bought the MotoX instead.
But I wanted the MotoX for what its offering and now I have got so much used to of the 'touchless' Moto features that I end up replicating same gestures on other phones I come across and then it takes a bit to realize that the others aren't smart enough like MotoX, Even an iPhone costing twice the money feels ancient tech in front of the MotoX. earlier I had complains with the camera but now I even have started liking the camera also for the quicker and smarter gesture based response, afterall what is utility of a mobile camera if you can't access it on time. :cyclops:
I have praises for the MotoX becasue its got few features which suite to me. It doesn't mean that its the only best smartphone, there are other phones as well which have some other distinct features preferred by other people, just a matter of preference, but be careful while choosing.
Those who are facing issues on Lollipop, I would suggest factory reset and clean start after the upgrade, then reset/retrain the Moto features.

If you install any of the custom roms for the Moto X, the light will function as a notification light. Since you seem to not like Moto Display, this seems like a viable option for you.

Moto Display Notification Issue

I have noticed that when I get a notification while the screen is locked, the notification pulsates or "breaths"' (as Motorola calls it) for only about 3 minutes and then stops. I thought it was supposed to continue to breath and show me the notification until I dismissed it. Is this normal or is there maybe a setting I have screwed up?

Same here but I guess it's a bug idk
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Really don't know how I feel about the notification system on this phone. I would prefer and LED notification light, and this phone has one, it's just not usable. I've got a 6P on order and have some decisions to make.
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Mine does this too. I'm guessing they made a few tweaks since the move to LCD. Although I haven't owned an X before so I'm not sure if the older models did the same thing, or continued to 'breathe' until dismissed.

I think It's normal. Same thing happens on the moto x 2014.

They probably figure with the way most people eat, sleep, and poop with their phones in their hands that nobody is going to go more than three minutes without checking it anyway, so why keep it breathing longer than that?

consider the battery usage I think .

Same here. Hopefully we'll get Lightflow working with this at some point.
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Have you tried Ambient Display instead?
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Baldilocks said:
Same here. Hopefully we'll get Lightflow working with this at some point.
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It works now if you're rooted, in case you weren't aware.
Well, kind of... All you can do is have the led turn on. No flashing yet, but it does help quite a bit.

dclutter1 said:
It works now if you're rooted, in case you weren't aware.
Well, kind of... All you can do is have the led turn on. No flashing yet, but it does help quite a bit.
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Yeah, I am rooted and aware. By working, I meant flashing. No worries. I'm sure it will be sorted eventually. Heck, even if they could get the front camera flash to light up for notifications, that would be nice too.

Baldilocks said:
Yeah, I am rooted and aware. By working, I meant flashing. No worries. I'm sure it will be sorted eventually. Heck, even if they could get the front camera flash to light up for notifications, that would be nice too.
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Hahaha, didn't see your stats before I replied (xda app)
I used Flash Alerts 2 for the front flash but it's way to bright for my liking and it just flashes the led a predetermined number of times, as opposed to actually controlling it like Lightflow.

My moto X 2014 and moto X style work exactly same way. The display doesn't stay on permanently when notification comes on. It lights up, pulsates and then dims and goes of until you either pick up the device or wave your hand in front of ambient sensors to check notification.
Your phone if working completely as it should do.
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nookcoloruser said:
My moto X 2014 and moto X style work exactly same way. The display doesn't stay on permanently when notification comes on. It lights up, pulsates and then dims and goes of until you either pick up the device or wave your hand in front of ambient sensors to check notification.
Your phone if working completely as it should do.
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Does the "notification pulsing" on the moto x 2014 really goes off after about 3 minutes??? I cannot believe it, since it uses AMOLED as the 2013 Moto X too... And I am owning a Moto X 2013 and I love the Moto Display Feature on it.
On the Moto X 2013 the function is much much much better than on the Style... The brightness of the notification is much higher. The duration of the notification is longer and it pulses constantly every ~5s instead of ~10s... And not for just 3min.. It pulses for hours... as long as you take the device in your hand! Like a normal Notification LED would also do!
So the change of the display type from AMOLED to IPS LCD is a big step backwards imho... And please tell me that this 3min barrier is a bug, because if not, its absolutly useless and definitly a reason to send my moto x style back.

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Does the "notification pulsing" on the moto x 2014 really goes off after about 3 minutes??? I cannot believe it, since it uses AMOLED as the 2013 Moto X too... And I am owning a Moto X 2013 and I love the Moto Display Feature on it.
On the Moto X 2013 the function is much much much better than on the Style... The brightness of the notification is much higher. The duration of the notification is longer and it pulses constantly every ~5s instead of ~10s... And not for just 3min.. It pulses for hours... as long as you take the device in your hand! Like a normal Notification LED would also do!
So the change of the display type from AMOLED to IPS LCD is a big step backwards imho... And please tell me that this 3min barrier is a bug, because if not, its absolutly useless and definitly a reason to send my moto x style back.
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But the moto display works regardless after the timeout. As soon as you wave your hand over the screen it will spring it to life or even pick up the device will spring moto display to life.
The 2014 & 2015 versions work the same way identically regardless of amoled or lcd.

Yes but I dont want always to wave over the device... When I look at the phone I want to see: Are they notifications or not. With my X 2013 it works like a charm... So thats why I am pretty disappointed.

i have tryied the lightflow paid app for test,,, in a weak i noticed that my battery was going down fast... so i uninstalled the lightflow and tryied to go back to moto display.... updated moto software etc... checked all the configs i could... and still nothing.... so now.... my moto display is not working at all.... does not show any icon... and does not reconize my had going near it..... anyway to fix it? tnks :/