Moto X Style or Droid Turbo 2? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay, so I was all set to purchase the new Moto X, but then the Turbo 2 rumors started floating around the interwebs... I am currently using a Nexus 6, but it is just a little too big for me (although I am really getting used to it - it just isn't very portable). Between Good Work for corp email and the battery drain on VZW LTE, I find I typically have to top off by 5 or 6 PM. From what I've been reading, battery life for the N6 and the Style are about the same on Verizon. I really miss the Moto apps, so I'd like to come back to either the Style, or maybe wait for the Turbo 2. The biggest drawbacks for the Turbo 2 are lack of unlockable bootloader and VZW bloat. Quite frankly, I really don't even need root if there isn't any bloat (although, I think most/all can be disabled now w/o root).
My priorities:
Battery Life
Moto apps
Clean, no bloat (or rootable so I can clean things up)
So, should I buy the Style, wait for the Turbo 2 or just keep my Nexus 6?

Pure/Style is great. I'm waiting to see just how "shatter proof" the new Turbo screen really is!

Yes, the "shatterproof" screen looks like it could be really cool. Plus the phone seems about the right size for me too... but man, I just can't stand the bloat and that might be enough to keep me away from the extra battery capacity...

Think moto X Play meets your requirements better tbh

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I'm thinking the maxx will be a better phone. The turbo looks to be a pure with a smaller plastic screen and a faster processor. The maxx will be more like the play(better battery life).
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I guess it really comes down to whether or not I can deal with the bloat in order to have the extra battery capacity... and the more I think about it, the more I don't think I'll like it. I'm really leaning toward the Style. I guess we'll see what the Turbo/Maxx 2 look like a couple of days.

I can deal with any shortfalls this phone has to not buy from Verizon any longer. Overall this phone works great for me. I knew it was not the absolute latest and greatest but I have to say I am satisfied. It is an excellent but for the price and soon I will be saving $300/yr on my cell phone bill.
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Remmeber buying from verizon, they decide when to give you updates. Today all my lines are out of contract so I get 25$ off per line,also get 19% off and have 30gb plan for 130$(-19%) and have 4gb promo data. But the thing that's the best is the feeling of freedom.
You do what you want and when you want.
If you can either buy it in full price or stick with motox, patience also with roms
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That is a lot good point. And at an extra $200, I don't think the Turbo 2 is worth it.
Now I guess the only question is: what color do I get?!!

I had the last turbo. Great phone but of course locked down and it was supposed to be updated fast. We got lollipop at the end of july I believe. I gave it to my wife and bought the new x.

My droid Maxx still doesn't have lollipop. So I'm sticking with my xpe. Plus one hands on said the turbo 2 screen quality was dingy and not bright.
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My dad just got the Droid turbo 2 and likes it. The screen size isn't too bad and they used an amoled display for it. It does have a ton of VZW crap ware installed that you can't get rid of but he traded in his 2013 moto x with a fully shattered screen and he still got $200 trade in for the turbo 2.
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From Gnex to Maxx HD...

Thinking about picking up a Maxx HD because I am starting to dislike the Gnex battery life. Its a tough decision since I would have to buy the Maxx HD off contract. Has anyone done this? Do they feel like they have given anything up (besides the ROMS). I feel with the JB leak and forthcoming official OTA it seems like the software is catching up. I know 4.2 is out there but it seems like the changes are more modular (Google Now being an update to Google Search, keyboard can be updated with root, camera can be updated with root, etc.) and am not sure 4.2 will be that critical. It seems the under the hood improvements are done in 4.1. So anyone have any thoughts on if its worth it to spend that much for the battery?
Well, I didn't come directly from Gnex to Maxx HD, but after 6 replacement Gnexes VzW let me swap out my Gnex for a Maxx. Loved the Gnex as a device, but for me it fell way short as a phone... I had constant call quality issues. I had been running mostly stock ROM's on my Gnex anyway, so flashing and modding weren't high on my priority list - I just wanted a phone that worked as a PHONE!
Right away I loved the Maxx - far superior call quality and, of course, insane batter life. All I wanted was call quality as charging my Gnex never really bothered me. That is until I got spoiled by the Maxx LOL. Not having to constantly monitor your usage in order to preserve battery was a (great) added benefit of making the switch.
Anyway, I decided to go ahead and get the Maxx HD at full retail. As much as I loved my Maxx I really missed my on screen navigation keys (as silly as that sounds). I thought I would return after the 14 days cuz $650 for on screen keys is crazy LOL. Well, today is day 15! This device is truly amazing IMO ... JB will make it that much better (so tempting to flash that leak, but I am trying to hold out for OTA).
My advice is this: if you got the cash and are on the market for a new device I'd definitely recommend the MAXX HD! Great battery, build and radios.
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Thanks for the advice. What really is putting me over the edge is I had this Android night class a couple of weeks ago. I would go into the 3.5 hour class with 100% battery or maybe less since it was at the end of the day. The room killed my reception, I had maybe a bar if I pointed it the right direction. I kid you not, the battery would be done by the end of that 3.5 hours. And I maybe sent a text or two or checked an ebay auction but it was basically unusable without the signal. So its not really about the radio, its more about the battery. Now I have times where I let it sit over night then wake up with maybe 90% if i am lucky and then its a while till I get to a power source. At work I can have it plugged in all the time if I want and in the car I can plug it it. But its starting to become a "wired" device instead of wireless since I have it plugged in all the time so I have 100% when I go somewhere. I hate having to turn this and that off to get a days worth of a charge.
I hear ya... I am not a heavy user (by my definition of the phrase), but I have been averaging about 1 day / 15 to 17 hours on my MAXX HD. Around 2-3 hours screen time, 1.5 - 2 hours of calls, about an hour or so on Pandora and sometimes there's GPS in the mix as well on a single charge.
Bad reception will kill any phone's battery, but at least with the Maxx you've got a big reservoir ...
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Coming from an Inc4G to the Maxx HD its like night and day. While I did like the Inc this phone blows it out of the water in pretty much every department, and seeing as this is my first Moto phone I am very impressed with the quality. As everyone's saying once JB comes and perhaps we get a few good devs supporting this new Razr line (read: roms and mods lol), this phone will be a BEAST
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I also went from gnex to HD Maxx. Got it first weekend of release.
I love it. It's really in a different class in terms of build quality, design, and audio. It's got the best speakerphone that I've ever heard in a cell. The battery of course is great and with our extended post-Sandy outage it's been very useful.
I had the giant extended battery on the gnex and the HD Max gets longer life.
Sure it's a drag with no JB at launch, but the leak is already out and hopefully the dev community will latch on to the phone. The HD is a serious device with a pro-quality feel to it. I haven't looked back.
John
If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.
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If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.
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I thought about that but I would love to just have so much battery I don't know what to do with it. I am kind of tired of turning all this stuff off in regards to saving battery. I am kind of done with ROMS, I hate flashing over and over, I just like to keep my set up. And with ICS and JB, Android is at a pretty sweet spot with Google Now being the one thing that is missing from the Razr HD a the moment. But with a leak or officially soon that will be fixed. I am getting bored with the hardware now, and I think from what I have read, the radios and call quality might be better than the Gnex. I had a Bionic for a short time and liked it.
There is a general consensus on the build quality and radios of the Moto phones... hard to beat.
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I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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this is the perfect pick for you, unbeatable battery life, even on the RazrHD, the MaxxHD is in its own league. Plus awesome build, and aosp inspired moto ui
check this out, from the other day... my Gnex couldn't touch it, so glad I switched
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Bateluer said:
I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane
I came from a vzw gnex. Battery life was just too horrible for me to mess with anymore. My razr maxx hd is averaging 1 day 17 hours with 4.5 hrs on screen time. My gnex never got 2hrs on screen time. For these reasons im glad i switched.
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5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane
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OEM extended battery was only 2100mah. :-/ Hardly worthy of the name.
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Also with Team Maxx HD
I have the Maxx HD too. Signed a two year contract to get it. But all of you guys boasting about the battery, i'll need some advice. I havent really noticed the rave. i mean it's better than my epic but not by a lot. I heard after the first few charges of any new battery it reaches it's potential..Could that be it??? Also ive been using it every day for pretty much of the day but no heavy use...could that be it as well??
Last question is i wanted to put the JB leak but was afraid since it's not official from Verizon i could start seeing battery drainage..Has anyone else considered putting the JB leak on their phone?
I've had the Verizon g nex, SGSIII, Rezound, dinc 2, Droid X (lol) and the iPhone 4s. Now I have the Maxx HD and this phone smokes all of them IMO. My wife and daughter both have the SGSIII and my son has the Razr Maxx. I've done side by side with all of them and the Maxx HD wins in every department.
Some of you may say "well of course chef is gonna say this he owns a Maxx HD now!". I've had em all (except the Note 2 ) and this phone is my personal favorite.
The Note 2 is around the corner too. So maybe wait a couple weeks and play with the Maxx HD and note 2 and see which you like better if you're going to pay off contract pricing. I'm hearing reports that the Note 2 has great battery life also.
Hope that info helps ya.
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The Max HD is hands down my favorite android device. Here is how I came upon owning one.
First and foremost, I am an att customer. I have been on my family plan for years and I am always trying out new phones,whether they are att released phones or internationally released phones. I like apple's products and currently own an iPhone 5 and an iPad. I also really like a lot of thibgs about android devices and feel they are coming closer and closer to the polish that ios carries. I most recently tested out an international note 2 (good device).
For work my company uses Verizon and I have a company provided blackberry to handle my work emails and calls etc.
Anyway I live in the suburbs of new jersey, outside of art lte coverage, so lte has never really been an important feature for me. Sure I could hop on it when I work in new York city but for the most part I'm on hspa+
When hurricane sandy hit, we lost power and basically all att service. Our phones would not call out,receive calls, send texts,emails, NOTHING. on the other hand, my Verizon blackberry was our window to the world phone call wise- at this time the blackberry screen decided to **** the bed.
Then our devices (my current iPhone 5) began dying. All and all the situation was extremely frustrating. Having no cell or data service at a time where there is nothing else to do but sit in the dark and drink was a huge bummer.
This week, I caught up with one of our office administrators to discuss how we were going to replace my broken blackberry. During our discussion she brought up how it is an option to buy your own phone, and use it as one business/personal device since our service is unlimited (and it was definitely annoying to have to carry around two phones at all times)
So here I am. I walked into Verizon yesterday and purchased the Max HD. I have unlimited late everywhere I have gone so far (I have yet to see the 3g symbol). I am pulling down speeds averaging around 18mbps, and have yet to even switch wifi on. The phone is plenty snappy for everyday usage and then some. Call quality and reception are phenominal thanks to motos awesome radios
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Last night I downloaded an episode of a show I had missed via torrents. That is simply stuff you just can't do in iOS.
Tldr :
I love this phone. Build quality and performance as well as practicality and use ability as a phone is second to none.
The note 2 does have a big battery,but then again I was using the GSM international version. I haven't paid attention to any reviews of the us lte version. The quad core does run some higher end games better than the Max, but that is nit important to me. I don't have the time or the energy to play games other than casual stuff like scramble, doodle jump and rayman jungle run - all of which run fine on the Max. If you're a power user this probably is your better bet. I however am a casual user, that uses their phone heavily. This device is perfect for that. Also, motos skin is much nicer than touchwiz. The build quality is also much nicer.
Max HD, best phone you could get, and paired with my iPad for tablet use, graphically intensive games and couch use, it is the best of both worlds. I'm siked on my current setup.
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I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.
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I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.
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Iconic promotional device? Or do they just have a bunch if gs3 refurbs laying around? Are they giving you a new phone?
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Nexus Users

Do you guys think there'll be a surge of orders from Nexus users who don't want to upgrade to a phone as big as the Nexus 6?
The new Moto X is the closest to a Nexus phone now (not phablet).
I think it's more likely that they stick with the Nexus 5 and pray Google comes back down to earth next year. I can't imagine that releasing a 5.9" phone as your one and only is going to pay off.
Yeah, I think the Moto X might pick of a few Nexus users (myself included) if the next Nexus device really only offers a 6" screen. But I suspect the reasons people want a Nexus device go deeper than that. The 1st Gen. Moto X got almost no development. If you want the roms and the hacks and all that, nothing is like the Nexus (and the Moto X is far from 2nd runner up, in terms of amount of development). So the near stock rom on the Moto X is a bit of a mirage. I'm still not sure I'm ready to make the jump and lose out on the development options (as well as the increased control and potential privacy offered by something like Cyanogen, over any manufacturer maintained rom).
Also the price on the Nexus has always been at least $100 lower than what a Moto X goes for. That's going to be a big deciding factor. Nothing talks like money.
But for people who aren't into the roms and just like the stock Android experience and don't care about price so much, maybe some of them will jump ship from the Nexus.
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Literally everything is pointing to a 5.9" screen. No one is even acknowledging that a 5.2" device is even in the works any more. More likely the 5.2" phone everyone was talking about was the Droid Turbo.
Are the Nexus 5 and Moto X using the same size sim?
EDIT: Nope. Curses.
Yea cause I'm most likely one of them. I think the better speakers is what I want most. Weak speakers is the only thing I don't like about the Nexus
I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I was a Nexus 4 user, and why I got the Moto X is because my n4 was dying on me. Also, it's a nice phone, and the added hardware and software tweaks is worth enough for the price imo. I just want a clean stock experience, and that is why I like both the Nexus and Moto X
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Nexus user here - owned every Nexus phone since the original. I've picked up a Moto X simply because this year's Nexus is too large. But I agree with the analysis here - the X is a good substitute, but it isn't quite the same thing and I hope we won't see any negatives from that. If we don't get L pronto I will be complaining all over Twitter :crying:
I bought the nexus 5 first and the moto x after but sold my nexus 5 and used the moto x exclusively. My wife got a new iphone so now i'm using her nexus 5.
Things i like since moving to the Nexus 5
larger crisper screen.
snappier performance (very noticable) whether in games, browsing, and using google now voice commands, everything just comes quicker and faster.
willingness to take more pictures because it has a better camera
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
Touchless controls. I can't wake my phone from sleep. I don't use it much but when I want to I can't with the N5
--mics Moto's mics are awesome. I don't have to raise my voice like I do with the N5 when using the OK google command.
* on the N5 i have the google voice detection turned on for all screens and it drains the battery a little more. When plugged in, i leave the screen on so I have somewhat of touchless control.
Speaker - The moto's speaker is super loud compared to the N5.
Moto Assist - I use "AGENT" for the N5 but it's just not the same. The text reading and replying is very similar but with the Moto's mics the experience is better on the moto, but agent works very well as an alternative. Incoming calls aren't read out loud to you in Agent but they are in Moto Assist. AGENT relies on connecting to a trusted device in order for drive mode to come on while moto assist is able to detect when you're driving even w/o connecting to the trusted bluetooth device.
Battery life - i consistently get an hour more of SOT time with the moto over the N5 with just about the exact same type of usage.
There are a few other quirks between the two but these are the major ones for me.
The Moto X 2014 seems to blend both of these phones together and that's why I'm really wanting it, despite the battery life complaints. If it's equal to or greater to the moto x 2013 I'll probably get it. ESPECIALLY if the moto nexus doesn't have the moto tweaks. I doubt it does but i'm holding onto that small sliver of hope it does. These moto enhancements are very very very usual and i wish Google would bake these into Android but then Moto wouldn't be as unique any longer.
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Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
My take on it is that Motorola provides the nearest to Nexus experience (aside from GPE editions), with some extras in the sensors/software. The new Moto X is of the same hardware generation as the Nexus 5, so I think most will stick with the 5 unless they want a larger phone, and those will go to the 6 (which is about 1/2 generation newer if we believe the Snapdragon 805 [I almost called it a dragonball - now that will show my age in the mobile chip world] rumor). The phone jumpers will end up trying both the X and the 6, and may end up back at the 5.
I've been scratching my head between a Nexus 5 and Moto X to replace my work-supplied blackberry (company started to support Android in August) and think I am about to pull the trigger on the X. I thought about the M8 GPE, but holding both the new X and the M8 yesterday, the X definitely won out in-hand.
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
I have an N5, OPO and Moto X 2014. The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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Also, the battery drain will be a little bit more since the n5 screen is LCD. Having an active display like feature is made for amoled screens if you want to conserve battery
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I'm considering the Moto X but I am waiting to see if a root method (an prefereably an easy way to unlock the bootloader like the first gen Moto X) appears for the non-pure edition devices. If that doesn't happen by January, I may just have to rock a stupidly huge device. Being able to root and customize/backup/automate to my heart's desire is the most important feature of a phone to me. Second is stock Android and fast updates (so obviously the Moto X meets that).
For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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Even after the most recent GPU update lol I still own mine and play with it occasionally
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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I know. Almost 3yrs at this point. But what was I gonna do? We have unlimited data on our two phones, and get a nice discount through my wife's work. And she travels in places like Kentucky and West Virginia so the Verizon coverage is a big deal. If it was just me I would've switched to T-Mobile already. So, considering that....what could I do but keep the Galaxy Nexus? I couldn't stand Samsung's crapware etc, and nothing else interested me. The new X is the first thing that seems like a real option.
I hope it lives up to my expectations.
My wife is still rocking a Motorola Droid Razr. If you think the Galaxy Nexus struggles to function now you should try her phone....she gave up before me, and she still uses a Blackberry Curve for work.

Droid Turbo or Nexus 6?

For us that are stuck with Verizon and do not and can not fork out $600, where is the Nexus 6! Are we still getting it, and when! Or should I just give up and get the Droid Turbo?
The only thing which persuaded me to get the Turbo vs the Nexus is the size. I just cant deal with a 6" phone.
I actually prefer the 4.7 - 5.0 range (ie my old Droid DNA was PERFECT size) and Turbo is close enough that it doesnt bother me. But anything larger was just too much.
Of course, if you care more about root than size, Nexus is the way to go.
I'm with rajuabju on this. I would have loved the Nexus 6, but it's just too big; the Droid Turbo is pretty much the max in terms of phone size that I'd want to use.
Very true I agree. I mean the galaxy note 4 is borderline but still big and the nexus 6 is out of this world huge like the iPhone plus. Do they want me to get custom made jeans with pockets 6 inches deep and wide? I mean hecks no! This turbo is by far the best size along with the g3. Best hand form feel. Specs are similar to nexus and turbo but then again 565ppi for under 6 inches is more impressive than the nexus 6 ppi for 6 inch screen
I got the Turbo and love it. The idea of a Nexus phone was enticing, but the Nexus 6 was just too darn big. I'm glad about my decision and love everything about the Turbo. A smartphone is a tool to me, and Motorola did a magnificent job with that. Sure, some other phones are prettier, but I love the post-industrial look of the Turbo. I find it beautiful! I never use a case with my phones. Just think about it...take the iPhone which Apple spends a bundle on industrial design, and most users put an awful looking case on it. To me, a phone that needs a case is a poor design. The Turbo, by the way, includes one free screen replacement if necessary.
On the whole, the battery, while not the 48 hour duration that is claimed, still is simply amazing. The phone is fast and buttery smooth. The screen is great. Also, regarding the camera, It's been taking sharp, very impressive, oh wow photos for me. The "shutter lag" issue is a pseudo problem. No phone is meant for quick burst photos of fast action subjects. But the Camera Zoon FX does have a burst mode that works great with the Turbo.
Unless you want a 6 inch screen, I find the Turbo the phone of the year.
You can get 48h now pretty easily. You just cannot have heavy usage for 48 hours, which was never the intended claim.
rajuabju said:
The only thing which persuaded me to get the Turbo vs the Nexus is the size. I just cant deal with a 6" phone.
I actually prefer the 4.7 - 5.0 range (ie my old Droid DNA was PERFECT size) and Turbo is close enough that it doesnt bother me. But anything larger was just too much.
Of course, if you care more about root than size, Nexus is the way to go.
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My last phone was also the DNA and I loved it. If you compare the size of the DNA with the Turbo they are almost identical with the Turbo only being slightly thicker because of the battery.
I think the N6 would be just too big for me to fit comfortably in my pants and shorts pockets. I also like that I can use my Turbo one handed. The N6 also doesn't come in black.
The only thing I hate about the Turbo (yes, hate) is that the capacitive keys are KK and not LP symbols. I know the phone came out with KK on it, but LP was right around the corner and they look so much better than the KK symbols.
Yeah the turbo is a excellent phone. The decision has to be made based on your need for root and size of the phone.
My DNA already has lollipop. I almost popped my Sim back in the other day.
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You can get 48h now pretty easily. You just cannot have heavy usage for 48 hours, which was never the intended claim.
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100% true.
Its easy to get 48hours or more with only light usage. I did it specifically to test a few times.
But with heavy usage (ie, most people on XDA), its still lasts through a full day and then some, and NO other phone I've ever had would last this long
I'll chime in my $.02 here since I had the turbo and just recently sold it, and bought the N6. First off yes the N6 is huge, and that originally was the sole reason I didn't really want one. There are a few things that drove me to making the switch. I came from the LG G2, and honestly the G2 was and is one of the best devices on the market.. The size of the phone is perfect for me, it's thin, light, small bezel, etc.. I do like having root but I am by no means a ROM junkie like I was back in the OG Droid, then Gnex days.. so the G2 was perfect for me in that sense as well.. My original plan was to get the Droid Turbo, and sell my G2, but on black friday I got such a good deal on the turbo i was able to keep both. While using the Turbo I often found myself not being able to use the phone comfortably with one hand, and then the whole probably not going to get root thing.. So I figured if I am going to have a phone that in all honesty I will need to consistently use two hands to use, well then might as well go big, and get the benefits of a Nexus. I still have my G2 and a nano-->micro sim adapter so I can easily move back and forth between devices when I so desire.
I will say that with all those factors in mind had the turbo gotten root I probably would have kept it, it really is a well made phone, and I had no issues with the camera, and the latest update to add simultaneous voice and data was nice to have (being that the N6 currently doesn't support that on VZW), but I also have no regrets at this point (only 24 hours with the N6 though).
Like I said that's my $.02.
yep like everyone else the nexus 6 is just to big. i had the note 3 for a whole year exactly. i started going to the gym and that thing was not comfortable carrying around for music. dumped it for the m8 couldn't be happier, especially with the sound output, amazing.
and if you really want the nexus 6 i believe it works right out box for verizon. if you order from google or motorola whichever one. theres plenty of video on youtube and droid-life.com and a couple other sites already confirmed this. i hope youre happy with whatever decision you make.
happy holidays everyone!
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yep like everyone else the nexus 6 is just to big. i had the note 3 for a whole year exactly. i started going to the gym and that thing was not comfortable carrying around for music. dumped it for the m8 couldn't be happier, especially with the sound output, amazing.
and if you really want the nexus 6 i believe it works right out box for verizon. if you order from google or motorola whichever one. theres plenty of video on youtube and droid-life.com and a couple other sites already confirmed this. i hope youre happy with whatever decision you make.
happy holidays everyone!
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i can confirm the nexus 6 works right of the box on Verizon. The one I bought was originally purchased at a T-Mobile store. I put my sim in and good to go.. calls, data(LTE/3G) mms, all work without any tinkering.
It's huge plain and simple.. so if you can get past that, then I would say go for the Nexus.. I haven't had very many opportunities to use camera other then basic shots, but so far I am pleased.

Who's returning the Pure for the 6P/5X?

I'm torn right now. I want a bigger battery and the camera on the 6P seems better. But I really like Moto Display and Moto assist.
Mine is going back.
Development is going to be far superior on the Nexus. This is huge just by itself.
Amoled screen
Finger print is nice with lastpass and bank apps
Only $50 more with the play credit
Fast updates which with Leno gutting Moto no telling what will come
I'm not happy with the performance or the battery life on the Pure
Nexus has a larger battery and is tweaked for M
Camera is reported to be better on the Nexus than the pure
Better performance on the GPU and heat issues are a non factor
https://www.androidpit.com/snapdragon-810-vs-808-is-8-cores-really-better-than-6
So for $50 why exactly am I going to settle for the Pure? I won't.
I think if the Pure had come out a few months ago things might be a little different. They waited too long and the Nexus is just a better device. Add to that the shipping issues and pushing people's 14 days into the nexus announcement and well you get what you get. I'm glad mine took so long to ship now. I'm not getting stuck holding this turkey when everyone in 3 months is still asking where their Roms and updates are.
Going back, either getting a Nexus 6 64GB for $340 plus tax and saving $155 (32gb, wood back, sd card...all three total $495 plus tax) or spending an extra $5 for a 32 GB Nexus 6P
also lucked out that my phone shipped on the 15th so today is day 14
That's what she said.
I am struggling to see how to justify the extra $100 dollars for the 6p when the xpe beats it in several different areas. And people really shouldn't talk crap about the camera on the 6p because its also speculative at this point. But we already know the camera on the xpe is getting stellar reviews.
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Only why I'm even considering the nexus 6P is because of the amoled and battery size. Other than dont care for the other features including the fingerprint. Definitely like the looks of the moto x better. Still deciding. Hmmm
Keeping my Mxp. That phone is ugly with the camera hump. I don't really care about the fingerprint scanner. Camera on my Mxp is good enough for my needs. The form factor on the Mxp is great, it is the perfect size. The Nexus 6P looks as big as the Nexus 6. Coming from a Nexus 6, I don't want a form factor like that anymore. With the sd card slot, I haven't streamed any media or music on the Mxp and that saves on a lot of data. Battery life is ok, but with the quick charger it is a non-issue.
Anybody know how much the uk 6p will retail for? I'm going to return mine when it eventually arrives
Just found out that CA residents have up to 30 days for return! Not that I want to... I like the look and my design of the MXPE, but the battery is disappointing somehow... still deciding.
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I am struggling to see how to justify the extra $100 dollars for the 6p when the xpe beats it in several different areas. And people really shouldn't talk crap about the camera on the 6p because its also speculative at this point. But we already know the camera on the xpe is getting stellar reviews.
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The camera for the 6p has been reviewed by DXOmark.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
It comes in #2 behind the S6 Edge.
Beats all others including the style.
Thursday will be 2 weeks since my Moto was delivered, I am definitely keeping it. For my usage this, phone is perfect.
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Keeping mine as well since I had a best buy gift card to purchase this device.
If the nexus 6P ends up being sold at best buy then my decision changes again lol.
I was considering the pure but I see there is no roms yet. Seems a bit behind compared to the new moto g. The 6p will probably be my next device IF I can finance it through T-Mobile.
my 30 day return period is up like Oct 25 from Amazon... and I'm hearing the nexus phones aren't even shipping until November? yeah, i think I'll hang on to this bad boy for a bit, and wait to read reviews on the 6p with that steamy hot 810 in it, and who knows about huwai build quality or who's screen they use... if it's not samsung amoled, or its like previous gen samsung amoled like Motorola used to get, then no thanks, I'd rather have this LCD.
if i end up wanting it, I'll just get it and either sell the moto or hang on to it who knows.
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Already pre-ordered 6P. Some of Moto's features that set the XPE apart are now coming to both Nexuses (quick camera access, wake up when picking it up). I can't even get 3 hours SOT with the XPE. :-/ I'm also thinking of N and O releases. My X1 just got 5.1. And the nexus will have ROM support long after that. Sorry Moto, I'm outta here.
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I'll be keeping my Pure. I had a huawei phone once. I'll never have another. The 5x is just lack luster compared to the Pure.
Aridon said:
Mine is going back.
Development is going to be far superior on the Nexus. This is huge just by itself.
Amoled screen
Finger print is nice with lastpass and bank apps
Only $50 more with the play credit
Fast updates which with Leno gutting Moto no telling what will come
I'm not happy with the performance or the battery life on the Pure
Nexus has a larger battery and is tweaked for M
Camera is reported to be better on the Nexus than the pure
Better performance on the GPU and heat issues are a non factor
https://www.androidpit.com/snapdragon-810-vs-808-is-8-cores-really-better-than-6
So for $50 why exactly am I going to settle for the Pure? I won't.
I think if the Pure had come out a few months ago things might be a little different. They waited too long and the Nexus is just a better device. Add to that the shipping issues and pushing people's 14 days into the nexus announcement and well you get what you get. I'm glad mine took so long to ship now. I'm not getting stuck holding this turkey when everyone in 3 months is still asking where their Roms and updates are.
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Don't forgot no sd card slot
I don't trust the Huawei brand, and since the NX5 is limited to 32gb, I'm keeping the MXP. Sure, it won't have the development that nexus devices do, but I'm confident we'll see enough to keep me happy.
I'm keeping my Moto X, looks better, does everything I want, cheaper... If I change my mind down the road we will see but they packed almsot the same stuff in a larger form factor. Who knows how it will preform either. Also if you watch the 5X hands on from android athority it sure looked like it was having mis touch issues like the G4 has... I really hope it was because he missed the screen looking through his camera cuz that is what led me to ditch the G4 and if it moved to the nexus device... watch out! At least patches will be quicker.
6P:
Pros over the X:
-Finger print reader
-USB Type C
-All metal design
-Faster
-maybe a better camera (wait for reviews)
-Quick updates from google for years to come
-Better development
-Battery is bigger and already has android M
-AMOLED (bright, battery saving
Cons:
-Larger
-huge bezels
-All metal design (yes I added it also as a con because it could get very hot and get scratches/dings easy)
-Weird black bump thing
-Unproven manufacturer
-Cost a bit more (not too bad)
-AMOLED (BURN INNNNNNNSSSSSSSS)
-No wireless charging
Moto X:
Pros:
-Cheaper
-More customization from Moto maker
-Possible faster charger
-LCD (yes I like LCD over AMOBURNIN )
-Gestures to launch camera and flashlight already have me hooked
-Simmer bezels
-Already in my hand no waiting
-Proven front facing speakers that work well
-some water proofing
Cons:
-No wireless charging
-No fingerprint reader
-LCD has horrible blacks, even compared to the G4 :-/
That's all I have. I would like to reserve full judgement until I see this thing in real life and maybe I will jump, but for now I'm happy
Now that I have my pure in I can say 100% it's going back. My opo is better and I'd keep it over the pure. I can't get over how bad battery life is using chrome or maps. The build quality also feels cheap and I see lots of micro lag that I didn't see as much even in the opo. I'm very disappointed in the pure.
Going back to Motorola and waiting on the nexus p.

What phone will you go to next?

The Pure is an awesome phone. It has been my favorite and could be perfect with a bit better battery life.
Time marches on and I can't say I am enthused with the new Moto line coming out. Also not sure about Lenovo.
It just doesn't feel right that Moto is no longer American.
So what are you folks planning on going to next?
I would love a stripped down Sony or HTC. Not keen on Samsung. Apple, only if they offer a model with stock Android[emoji13].
Thoughts?
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Samsung. Maybe de 7 Edge, great specs and battery life, Lately Samsung improves a lot system updates ( and i will buy unlocked)
Stock Android is great, but sometimes lack from cool features like theming, gestures etc. HTC m10 is option, but i dont know.
Other options are OnePlus 3 and the AXON.
Most probably a Nexus device.
Im waiting for a new nexus. 1+3 is good but not kicking my ass do a sold them after two Weeks and back to moto
halo moto \m/
Likely the smaller of the two new Nexus devices, provided the battery life/build material is comparable to the larger alternative. This also hinges on whether or not it'll work on all carriers, which I assume it will.
I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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Definitely a Nexus. Probably in a year or two, I'm pretty good with my phone. Now if Lenovo doesn't upgrade this sucker to Android N then I might ditch it and switch early to the HTC-made Nexus Sailfish. But, I can't see the future so, who knows.
I'm thinking Nexus but I plan to stick with the Pure for at least another year or so. I might even go for another Moto phone. My main requirements will be that it has to be unlocked and no bloat (I actually like the few bashed on features the MXPE has). At the moment the Nexus and Moto lines meet this requirement. Only time will tell.
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I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.
I'll probably pick up a 6p once the new Nexuses are out and people start flooding Swappa.
Le Max 2, Axon 7, 1+3 or a Nexus device (either the 6P or 2016 5" if it has a 821 and is under 400)
From the pick at the moment probably the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe, but not till I see how it fares in real reviews.
The new moto phones are a big step back from the pure for me.
maybe the moto z more likely the note 7 if it gets root pretty quick.
my pure seems to be developing issues as it nears the warranty date actually i think it just past that on the 18th of july and i have been having issues now for about a week...
And i have a used note 3 that still works great... has better battery life than the pure too...
New smaller Nexus. I want faster updates and more ROMs to choose from.
I honestly have no idea. I'm not enthusiastic about any of the new phones. Seems almost every manufacturer is reverting from a 5.7" screen to 5.5" which is a deal breaker for me. Also need root and I'm on Verizon which cuts my current, and future options down to just my current x pure, or a semi-rooted S7.
Richy101 said:
I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.
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I am in the same boat brother lol, I have my Moto X pure for now ... the Edge body im not a fan but the camera is what i love on it. Prices are almost at 500 bucks here in usa for them so i might wait a bit more.
Honestly... I might go back to my Moto G 2015, this phone is great except the battery life. Going from 5+ hours of SOT per day to barely 3.5 is tough. Maybe a G4 or even wait for the next Nexus devices.
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ill probably wait till 2017 nexus releases

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