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Lets just say for fun that Moto released Windows 8 for our Xoom, and that it worked as well as Android. Would you switch to it? Lets not start the license issue say you could buy a copy. Would you dual boot? Just wondering how many would give it a run, I think I would.
Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.
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Yes in a heartbeat. Always wanted to try windows tablet and able to use full blown microsoft office products.
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I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.
zone23 said:
I wonder if you would need a special version of office (ARM) or if office 2007 would work? That would be very cool if it did.
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They have already shown office running on arm, but it was a recompiled version.
All software will need a new arm version.
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No but i'd like to have the office programs to android
wouldn't run windows on any hardware I own lol
i would do it in a heart beat! im a verizon customer and love android. but if verizon had a better windows phone i would be all over it. i have an xbox and several winows laptops in my house so i think i would love the intergration. i admit, i dont even know if it would intergrate that well, im just speculating..
Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.
Well there is an instruction of how to install Win XP in our Xoom.
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X86 programs aren't going to run on the arm version of win8 so a lot of the programs that I would be looking forward to won't be compatible out the gate.
Things android lacks that windows has? Java, resizeable &stackable window ui, full fledged browsers with extensions.
Can't compare win8 to ics, maybe to cupcake. Give win on arm a few years and it should improve. That said, i am now 100% commited to android and i believe it is the future of os'es.
That would be the only way I would keep the XOOM. Android is just a toy to me.
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Absolutely not. My office just got the Samsung Slate Windows 7 tablet and we installed Win8 beta. The slate has 4gb RAM/64GB storage and an Intel icore5 at 1.66ghz. At almost $1,200, its very expensive for what it is. Heavy and has a gigantic fan in it.....
The entire concept of Windows in a tablet/slate does not work. Metro navigation is horrible and breaks almost every existing standard for Windows navigation.
To use Win8 Metro without a touch screen, is an excuse for carpal tunnel where every single task now takes twice as many clicks. ESC no longer works as the universal get me back one level.
Overall, my impression of Win8 Metro is very poor. The device we have has an icore5 in it and it is not snappy. Its smooth but not fast. Navigation is horrible and confusing.
IMHO, Microsoft better fire the UX team on Metro because all they've done is manage to muck up the entire concept of touch and Windows into a completely unusable package.
Android ICS navigation, HC and even Gingerbread are light years ahead in terms of efficient touch navigation implementation. MSFT needs to learn that in mobile, do not marry the desktop metaphor into it. It will not work. iOS and its unhappy marriage in Mac Lion is a perfect example of a big failure. Even Apple made that mistake and couldn't fix it.
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Couldn't disagree more... if what I'm running on my Wp7 is even half as well implemented on a tablet then I'm on it. Metro is the first decent differentiation away from 'icon' based interfaces and if I'm not mistaken the Android market has just been updated to a Metro like home screen.
I've played with the Win8 beta too but wouldn't judge MSFT on it when they clearly are capable of a top-notch Metro based OS as per WP7.
But opinions are like assholes, we all got one ;-)
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Hmmm... I'd think about it...
I always was a MS user, probably always will be. I see the opinions on both sides, and understand both of them... I guess my thoughts lean toward "let me dual-boot and try it, and see if it works for me..."
I would like to give it a test run.
~ BereanPK
Well I don't know all that much about Metros cept what I have read and from what I understand you can get rid of the Metro interface and go back to the standard if you choose to.
Metro is really not much more than Windows Media Center type interface that runs over the standard desktop and you can dump out of it if you want to get more of a legacy type screen.
That said I would definitly try it on my Xoom if I could Dual Boot from an SD Card but I would be hesitant to flash it directly as my daily driver. It could be useful for some presentation I do and some Classes I teach but as an everyday operating system for my Pad I really don't see the need until I know it allows me to do something I can't do with ICS.
And I have yet to hear of anything along those lines!
And from what I hear about draconian copy protection I may just pass on Win8 for my desktop as well!
I change my hardware a LOT and they seem to think I am not allowed to do that when I run their OS!
And they wonder why people PIRATE it in the first place?
You can't run OneNote with ICS.
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I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???
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I would dual boot, because I love metro UI (the launcher I use the most on my phone is Launcher 7) and I am very curious about Win8.
I have Windows 7 on my notebook and it's great, the first os by MS which is very good and has no problems. Not a single crash in months of use!
Only one thing puts me in doubt:
-Windows 98: good
-Windows 2000: not good
-Windows XP: good
-Windows Vista: awful
-Windows 7: very good
-Windows 7: ???
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You whippersnappers with no sense of perspective.
Windows: bad
Windows 2: eh
Windows 3: not too bad
Windows 3.1: better
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups: now you're cooking with gas
Windows NT: blah
Windows NT 4.0: much better
Windows 95: pretty good
Windows 98: good but I wish it had some of the NT 4.0 stuff.
Windows 2000: not the best for games but at least it has the NT stuff.
Windows XP: nice but 64 bit was kind of a joke
Windows Vista: fine if you know how to read but a bit of a hog.
Windows 7: this is a nicer cleaned up Vista with a watered down interface for those who want a spoon fed experience
Windows 8: probably something even simpler with a robust OS under the hood (I hope or it will suck worse than Windows ME that I refuse to include in my list because it SUCKED.)
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windows me was an operating system? lol
no i wouldn't install windows 8 on my xoom... I'll keep ics. it's smooth and pretty stable.
I would have no desire to run WIN8 on my tablet. I can see the possible argument for encouraged development though...
windows CE + windows ME + windows NT = CEMENT
Not that I have a problem with android ICS, just curious..
will windows 8 have the ability to run on our thinkpad tablets?
Is there hardware differences between the Android and the projected windows model coming out in the future?
Thanks for the insight...
Windows 8 RT (arm version) is locked down really tight, I hear rumors of encrypted bootloader on the devices similar to ours on the TPT (256 bit encryption) to stop people from doing just this. so short answer no, you'll just have to buy a windows 8 slate if you want one. or hope that Secure boot keys start falling out of the sky
How about waiting for Android x86 alongside Windows 8 on the TPT 2 (though it didnt look like it had a pen, AARRRGGGG!)
That would be most excellent I have dreamed about something like that, if you aren't looking for the whole amazing android UI you can run Blue stacks, its pretty damn good for a beta and i run it on my Dell XT2 tablet, it has an n-trig digitizer just like the TPT and works decently well.
did any try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172838
Ok so I've been able to install Windows 8 to a usb using a program called gimagex it can install windows using the wim file. So I'm wondering if it would be possible to do the same with the Nexus 7?
Search and read the thread where you should have posted this. There is a huge discussion about windows 8 . Its illegal
forget the link http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...zk9z3ACrwUPfC-WCg&sig2=sljfEnRm9Bd8ApSfvBhG0A
Google is your friend
Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
Code:
if (runing(androidHW))
{
blowBlueScreen(randomMessage);
}
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....
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Why god?
Why?
Why people want to defile android hardware running something that came from Fisher-Price?
No sane people runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that that version is a 'skipper', a Vista if you want...
Course you can't run it! Cause Bill gates say's you can't!
He makes sure of it! (yes he still woks on w'os).
You're a lost sheep from the times windows was the only available OS....
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Some people just like to do things because they can. It's that spirit that drives open source, ROM creation, etc. Just because is the only reason they need...like the guy trying to hack in a real facing camera on his N7.
Also, I installed Win8 on my Iconia W500 (full OS, not RT) and its not as horrible as all that...increased the speed by at least double that of Win7 too.
That said, I would try RT on my N7 just for grins, but Android would still be my primary baby.
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.....No sane person runs that on desktop... surface is a fail also...
And everyone knows that this version (8) is a 'skipper'/avoid at all costs, a Vista if you want...
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I run it on my Sony Vaio Laptop and it is perfectly fine (yes my Laptop ISN'T Touchscreen but so what?) .........
I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.
GabrialDestruir said:
I personally would think it cool to be able to run to some extent Windows 8 on the Nexus even if it was just accessing a desktop using Splashtop. Mostly because it'd be cool to get that Windows 8 Tablet feel and check out what it'd be like to have a "Windows 8 tablet".
Now before someone goes all "Why would you want to ruin your android tablet it inferior OS?!?!?". I went with an android tablet because they give better customization, I mean hell if you look around, you can find at least one person probably who's tried and succeeded with running something like Ubuntu on it. So the point I'm trying to make is, personal preferences, everyone has them, just because yours varies from someone else's doesn't mean you should put down their ideas.
But the major point that's been hit already, illegal, and if you didn't mind that factor (like people who create hackintosh machines), it'd take a lot of work to get all the proper drivers so the OS would work properly on the device to begin with. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
OFF-TOPIC RANT: Have to disagree with the sentiment that Windows 8 is the new Vista, I use it on both my desktop and my laptop and find it to be not that far removed from Windows 7. There's plenty of improvements to things in Windows 8, but it doesn't feel like they've gone and completely rewrote the OS rather poorly from scratch (lke Vista felt with it's outrageous system requirements) but more like they took something that works (Windows 7) and took steps to improve it and add more features to it. Sure the "Metro" UI is a drastic change when compared to 12+ years of more or less the same UI style (Taskbar + Start Button), but from my experience it can hardly be called a ME, or a Vista.
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I would agree.. Windows 8 seems to be less taxing on the devices. I DO not like the Metro ui look thou... But its easy to hack and replace the shell.. As i done.. Search for classic shell. You get your start bar back for windows 8...
Im so glad they tosses aero out the window in windows 8 who needs round corners and 3d looking menu I always turned it off on win 7.
So windows 8 runs flawless on my amd vision APU. And im getting up to 11 hours of battery life over the 8-9 i was with win 7.. This Note book is awesome at sipping power when unpluged.. Plugged up its mind blowing fast for 1.6.
Anyway back on topic .. METRO Sucks if its like what i have on my full windows 8
And no no no Microsoft is not selling licenses for windows rt... Our new windows 8 pc has no coa key either..
Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
I still think TF300 is the best. It is Android (not Windows crappy SO) and my dock gives me more battery life. Windows 8 apps are sloooow to load, surface comes with many problems related to sound, and well, I'ts a Windows - after some months it will start to stay slow and buggy. I also hate that metro thing that you cannot even change. If I didn't buy the transformer at this time, I would buy it anyway.
The other Windows tablets don't even come close to the functionality the Asus Transformer Pad series offers. You don't have to use crappy Windows 8 for a start.
I am usually an early adopter, but I am waiting to see how the Windows RT market develops. In time, I think it will be as rich as the iOS and Android app markets, but it ain't there yet.
I also like the open nature of Android over iOS or Win RT. Windows is aiming for a compromise between the two environments: less restrictive than Apple, but still not open to multiple markets and varying levels of quality control/risk on the Android platform, which a lot of users will prefer. But Win RT is restricted, unlike the x86 version of Windows 8 (and all previous Windows OSs). So I don;t see Android losing its appeal, and thus the Transformer models are still strong tablets with keyboard capabilities.
I haven't seen a Windows tablet yet that will touch this Transformer.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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I mean recently I've been looking into getting a ASUS VivoTab which is similar to the Transformer series, but uses Windows 8 Pro, and an Atom Clover Field Dual-Core 1.8GHz processor, w/ 2GB's of RAM. It'll sustain my web browsing and be able to run legacy apps. That's what I'm really interested in, a laptop/tablet hybrid.
The TF300 doesn't keep me excited the way it used to :/ I really do wanna like it though.
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The way I see it, Windows 8 Pro looks great. BUT it can wait for the next laptop upgrade, at which point all laptops will be a tablet hybrid. Plus, going by the Microsoft "every other OS" curse, Windows 8 will suck compared to Windows 9.
Not just Android, but also price point: you're looking at US$200 more for the RT equivalent of the TF300.
I want a tablet, not a PC, and all the reliability you get with a tablet. I don't think there's anything wrong with Windows or Microsoft - I have two Windows PCs and think it's great for working on my desktop - but it's horses for courses, and I like the open nature of Android. You can expect Microsoft to mess something up or stifle development at some point: if Android didn't exist and development was left up to Microsoft then it'd be a much worse environment.
I can't imagine that I'd have a real use for a hybrid tablet/laptop though, not until the prices for touch screens come down a lot. At work and in my office here, the laptops end up getting plugged into a larger monitor and external keyboard for comfort reasons.
Or maybe I'm just getting old and resistant to change.
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Okay, so recently we've seen the sprout of Windows 8 tablets and RT tablets. And it got me wondering, now that we have Windows tablets with keyboard docks, what's the point of the TF300 or Transformer Line at all?
I mean, look at it this way, for the users who bought it with the keyboard, we bought it for the tablet/pc experience. But now with Windows 8 tablets (and Win 8 Pro), what's the point of the TF300? Wouldn't you be more satisfied with the Surface tablet running full fledged Windows 8, and being able to use it with some of their basic apps for a tablet like experience?
That's just my 2 cents, I dunno. I'm thinking about saving for a Surface tablet without RT.
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The biggest downside for windows 8 rt is you can only run rt apps which are few. I'll consider later when there is more app support. As I see it now if it isn't included you are stuck, compared to hundreds of thousands of apps for android.
Obsolete? No I don't think that is accurate. Newer tabs out, yes. That is the tech world. Buy today and get more bells and whistles tomorrow or use a current product until there is truly a good reason to upgrade or spend your bucks to have the latest.
I know which is best for me but you are the only one who can make a proper decision for yourself.
If it is right for you then certainly get one. No one can or should fault you for that.
Good Luck!
Yep I'm with the idea for the price tag this is more capable and better software..... Plus they are right the touch screen laptop bit is more attractive.....
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Honestly I don't like the way windows 8 is layed out. I do like the tablet / laptop design. But seriously windows 8 does not look compelling to me, they are trying to hard to make it look like android .
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Hey guys I might be getting a hp stream 7 in a few days and was wondering if anyone here has one and if there any good, I'm only hoping for a bit of browsing and movie watching and light games, I've got a TF300T and a nexus 7 (2012) at the moment and was wondering if it would stand up to them for what I want it for, cheers for any info guys
So did you get it? was it all that you wanted?
I see they are onsale today, that's why I ask
http://slickdeals.net/f/7643372-32g...-tablet-with-1-yr-office-365-79-free-shipping
Yes I did get it mate and for the price its really good, it can handle casual games well and browsing is very good but on a 7 inch screen you tap the wrong think now and then but I'm used to it as I use my nexus 7 a lot, s I think its a great way to try windows 8.1 on a tablet and it didn't disappoint me
But now you write on the Windows PHONE 8 forum not Windows 8.X.
HP 7 Stream this is a TABLET with full Windows 8.1 not phone or phablet. For devices like as HP 7 Strem is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt
My bad mate calm down no need for the bold and capitals shouting just makes you look like a tool
This tablet isn't windows RT. It's full blown windows 8.1. But, I am quite disappointed at how windows 8.1 is on this tablet.. All the text and buttons are so small it's so hard to use. I have a kindle fire hdx with google launcher installed and it is a much more practical device for 7in touch screen. Windows 10 better have a more appropriate design for touch screens.. Otherwise, things arent' gonna look good for MSFT.
Yeah that's the biggest issues I've got to but it was cheap and I wanted to see if it was worth getting a bigger better one and I think yes it is
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This tablet isn't windows RT. It's full blown windows 8.1. But, I am quite disappointed at how windows 8.1 is on this tablet.. All the text and buttons are so small it's so hard to use. I have a kindle fire hdx with google launcher installed and it is a much more practical device for 7in touch screen. Windows 10 better have a more appropriate design for touch screens.. Otherwise, things arent' gonna look good for MSFT.
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I just won one and tested quickly and you need a keyboard and mouse to really take advantage of it. i think is great to have full office running on it or whatever app you want.
Have you got a good keyboard and mouse solution?
anyone tried linux on this?