First of all I just got to say the fact that I don't have simple apps such as ABC, Fox or HBO Go is a letdown. I still have to switch between my NP and ATV. I don't understand why the NP is so restrictive. I wish I can run full android with the android TV interface. Not this walled garden without many good apps.
What I really like about the NP is the recommendations feature of Android TV. It is well done and pulls in the videos from various apps. I like this curation.
I use the sideloader app and cloud to side load apps. I was able to side load the MSG Go app on the NP. Noticed that it was in portrait mode so I had to download another app to force landscape on all apps. When I watch the video on the msg go app it isn't crisp. I see the scan lines on the movement from the basketball games and the quality isn't HD. On my iPad the same app looks great. Both run off the same wifi so I don't know why the quality is bad on the NP. Maybe there is a setting I need to toggle but the other videos are fine.
What really is frustrating is that apps like Netflix don't work when updated, I have to turn off auto updates for apps to not break anything. It is difficult to know when an update will improve or break an app. It is also difficult to know when an app is compatible or a great android app can be side loaded without compromise.
If anyone has any advise please lay it on me.
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First of all I just got to say the fact that I don't have simple apps such as ABC, Fox or HBO Go is a letdown. I still have to switch between my NP and ATV. I don't understand why the NP is so restrictive. I wish I can run full android with the android TV interface. Not this walled garden without many good apps.
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You can sideload and install whatever you like onto it. But developers have to say they support Android TV in order for it to appear on the Nexus Player through the store because a lot of them don't work with just a remote control, and devs don't want to get emails or bad reviews for not supporting it. You wanna complain about this, go moan at the devs for not making their app suitable for a TV interface.
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Well thats a risk you're gonna have to live with. If its deemed compatible by the developers, it'll be in the Play Store to install on the Nexus Player. If its not, its your risk. There's endless apps, and a very small market for Android TV so a lot of devs just won't bother yet.
Exactly my point. Great experience horrible development
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Maybe the point is that you DON'T sideload. Just because it can be done doesn't mean you'll get a good experience when you do it.
The way Google intended it to be is as a heavily curated selection.....or so they say.
I used to side load but now I don't. I'm not going to use an air mouse or keyboard to control my TV. Usually if there isn't an official app like HBO Go, you can still cast. I would much rather do this than hack my way through some side loaded app.
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I think we are still in a transitional period. Small developers are trying to get the most from their work so they go different places. But some of this stuff is simply politics. Fox, ABC, HBO, Amazon make political choices not based on hardware or software limitations. Why does Watch ESPN work on Fire TV with the controller but on the Nexus Player you need to sideload and use a mouse? Politics at play. Why do I have to sideload Kodi onto the Fire TV? More politics.
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Maybe the point is that you DON'T sideload. Just because it can be done doesn't mean you'll get a good experience when you do it.
The way Google intended it to be is as a heavily curated selection.....or so they say.
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Side loading is the only way to get the apps that I use regularly on the device I want it on. My point is that it shouldn't be a walled garden and Google should make it so apps like abc, ESPN etc are already on the system. No reason for those basic ones not to be.
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Side loading is the only way to get the apps that I use regularly on the device I want it on. My point is that it shouldn't be a walled garden and Google should make it so apps like abc, ESPN etc are already on the system. No reason for those basic ones not to be.
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It isn't a walled garden if you can sideload. However you are expecting all sideloaded apps to run as they are on a TV when they are made to be used on a touchscreen in the first place.
What you should be ranting is why not more companies or devs release apps that are remote optimized, instead of barking up the wrong tree. Google isn't stopping those companies from releasing TV compatible apps - those companies are the ones not doing so.
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Nice doggy. Now lie down and play dead. [emoji4]
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Too stubborn.
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Read an article saying the Netflix app will only be coming to new phones with the app pre- installed. Meaning we won't be able to go to the Market and d/l the app. Is this true? Are there any ways around this? I was really looking forward to my Instant queue on my Inc.
Our processors aren't made for it.. The new snapdragon is gonna be different and be able to meet Netflix requirements.
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They said the Eris couldn't handle froyo. Now it has gingerbread. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made it work for the dinc
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Thats such bs, although im sure once its available there will be hacked version
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I wouldn't want to watch netflix on my phone anyways. Honestly, shouldn't you be paying attention to the world around you?
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I wouldn't want to watch netflix on my phone anyways. Honestly, shouldn't you be paying attention to the world around you?
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Its funny u say that i saw a girl walking thru the mall here texting, she tripped and fell into a big fountain face first lol... anyways i would like to, i take a lot of trips with the wife and sometimes its just boring sitting in the car or hotel room
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I didn't read anything about it only coming preinstalled... I only got that it would only work with snapdragon processors due to some security system that they have... netflix would be dumb not to release an app for all phones considering that the best part of android is that we have options on what phone we want to use... if this is the case then the HTC tablet will steal the market from the xoom since its not a snapdragon
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Its funny u say that i saw a girl walking thru the mall here texting, she tripped and fell into a big fountain face first lol... anyways i would like to, i take a lot of trips with the wife and sometimes its just boring sitting in the car or hotel room
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Was that the one that became a YouTube sensation? She now wants to sue the mall and security guards for laughing.
As a recent Netflix convert, I went searching a few days ago for a Netflix app. I figured there had to be one considering the popularity of Netflix, but there was NOTHING
I can't believe there is no official Netflix app, not even one to manage your queue, browse what's available, or even to control Watch Instantly on a 3rd party player (Boxee, PS3, etc). Big disappointment
Do u really think im gonna be walking and watching a movie? Cmon man. Anyone who has netflix and an android phone wants the app. Not only to watch movies and shows but to update our queue as well. This isnt about walking and watching, its about being able to do everything with our Inc.
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Do u really think im gonna be walking and watching a movie? Cmon man. Anyone who has netflix and an android phone wants the app. Not only to watch movies and shows but to update our queue as well. This isnt about walking and watching, its about being able to do everything with our Inc.
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I completely agree.
Its ok though b/c Netflix will soon put the app out there for those new phones the new snapdragon processors and then all those wonderful hackers we have in the Android community will come up with something for the rest of us.
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As a recent Netflix convert, I went searching a few days ago for a Netflix app. I figured there had to be one considering the popularity of Netflix, but there was NOTHING
I can't believe there is no official Netflix app, not even one to manage your queue, browse what's available, or even to control Watch Instantly on a 3rd party player (Boxee, PS3, etc). Big disappointment
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+1. I was really looking forward to managing my queue from my phone...
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+1. I was really looking forward to managing my queue from my phone...
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You can still manage your queue with your web browser, but I agree an official app would be better.
I know its a crappy kind of workaround, but I have PlayOn installed on my server at home witch then have the PlayOn app on my Inc and it can stream my Netflix to my phone wherever I am. I am bummed there is no official Netflix app, but there are a few to do your queue.
The bad thing about it is I used to have a Netflix app for my HTC Vogue. I could manage my account and all my queues. I really can't belive that Netflix can't come out with at least a basic app for Android.
Im hoping one of our genius devs come up with something for our rooted Incs. Maybe theres a way around the security so the app can be ported to us. Heres to wishful thinking!
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The bad thing about it is I used to have a Netflix app for my HTC Vogue. I could manage my account and all my queues. I really can't belive that Netflix can't come out with at least a basic app for Android.
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There are tons of apps that will handle your queue. Movies is one that has a ton of uses AND allows you to manage your queue
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Unfortunately, the DINC will likely never see a working version of the Netflix app
Netflix has strict DRM requirements and, as of right now, only the brand new generation of Snapdragons (like the one in the upcoming HTC Thunderbolt) will be able to support Netflix since that processor's firmware contains the latest DRM keys. The DINC's processor does not contain the DRM keys it needs to allow the app to function
Normally software can be hacked to "get around" these types of requirements, but apparently the devs tried and failed to get it to work and eventually all but gave up on the project and will now only focus on porting the app to newer phones with the newer Snapdragon chips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789
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Unfortunately, the DINC will likely never see a working version of the Netflix app
Netflix has strict DRM requirements and, as of right now, only the brand new generation of Snapdragons (like the one in the upcoming HTC Thunderbolt) will be able to support Netflix since that processor's firmware contains the latest DRM keys. The DINC's processor does not contain the DRM keys it needs to allow the app to function
Normally software can be hacked to "get around" these types of requirements, but apparently the devs tried and failed to get it to work and eventually all but gave up on the project and will now only focus on porting the app to newer phones with the newer Snapdragon chips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789
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Looks grim, but I hold out hope that some enterprising developer will find a way to extract the DRM keys needed to get the app working.
"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
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"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
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thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway
sounds like they want people to get movies somewhere else...
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thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway
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Umm..i didnt. Please dont speak for me. Thank you OP.
This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Pirates ruin it for everyone.
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Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Movie companies ruin it for everyone.
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FTFY
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this.
I'm sure there's a way to 'block' the google movie rental service from obtaining root rights (or at least checking)... no ?
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This is a bit of an unusual move from Google, who normally promote the open nature of Android; many rooted users are likely to feel somewhat irked by this. There's a likely possibility that the movie studios are the ones behind the decision, unwilling to let Google license anything without some form of copy protection in place. Because of this, many legitimate users will feel they're being punished for the sake of preventing something from leaking on the Internet, which in all likelihood will already be there anyway.
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See.. if I were going to pirate a movie and leak it on the internet, I certainly wouldn't pay money to rent it on my android phone, then try and make it watchable on a 60" TV.. bastards... they're so ignorant (the movie companies)... people will sit in a theater w/ a small camera attached to a pocket sized DVR to make bootlegs.. there's also telesync and telecine 'copies' as well.. w/ those, the 'pirate' is attached directly to the projector to grab the video signal but uses a microphone for the audio. These telesync/telecine 'copies' are usually the most desirable in the bootleg world because of the 'improved' video quality vs the camera in a pocket bootlegs. The next best quality is an 'R5' which is DVD quality video because the movie was released overseas (russia or somewhere?) and since the audio isn't in english, someone takes the 'bootleg' audio from a theater and overlays is onto the video... Then there are 'work prints' (stuff that's still WIP ) and DVDrip (that one should be obvious).. there are also 'pirates' that will just get a netflix subscription to mail the DVD's back and forth, ripping them as they receive them, or blockbuster (you can turn those back into your local store if there are any still open)... What I'm getting at is there are MANY ways for pirates to 'steal' movies and I can assure you that making a rip from a phone would be stupid.. it wouldn't net a tolerable viewing experience. The RIAA needs to go see a doctor and have their heads removed from their collective 'puckered starfishes'
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I could not care less about this topic.
1. I would never pay to rent a movie on my cell phone. Free? Sure. Pay ? no way.
2. The second any movie is released on blueray it's already up for download in FULL quality.
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Lol. Youre half right. I still put the other half on pirates for inciting the movie companies and record labels, thus causing irrational decisions. Hence google music not being debuted in the manner it should have been. But you are right. They do deserve a lot of the blame for not coming up with more creative solutions to their problems compared to all the brute force tactics they've deployed.
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Who cares.. if I really needed to watch a movie on my phone (probably never will), there are a lot of other options
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Well you can connect if u have evo to your 42" with HDMI and very u go.
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Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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That is what I was thinking about.
Couldn't you just deny it in SU, and it would think you don't have root rights?
I promise I will use this about as much as I've been using the Samsung Media Hub.
/That's "not at all"
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Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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Exactly. Just watch Netflix or buy a google TV then its a much better experience. Music streaming I can understand. But renting movies? Blah.
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The reason I'm asking is because this (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.directv.dvrscheduler) is one of the main apps I use on my nexus 10 and ever since I did the upgrade to 4.2.2 it exhibits stutter during live TV playback. I can't be certain this is related to 4.2.2 and thus my question, is anyone using this app with 4.2.2 and successfully playing back live TV stutter free? Like I said, it was stable for me up until just a couple weeks ago.
In the event there aren't too many others using this app does anyone know how to reach those who are responsible for developing and sending out stock os updates? It might not mean anything to them but I've thought of providing feedback around what I'm seeing and I guess it I'd worth a try. Who knows, maybe they could release a fix in the next update.
I have the app. Don't use it for watching shows because it's horrible. Basically use the dvr function to record shows. You could probably go to the website and complain. I think that i looked into it once before.
Have you seen their Ipad app? It is absolutely beautiful and works flawlessly. The guide looks just like the web version and it also has a built in remote so you can control all of your receivers. It is the one app that I want updated on android!
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I have the app. Don't use it for watching shows because it's horrible. Basically use the dvr function to record shows. You could probably go to the website and complain. I think that i looked into it once before.
Have you seen their Ipad app? It is absolutely beautiful and works flawlessly. The guide looks just like the web version and it also has a built in remote so you can control all of your receivers. It is the one app that I want updated on android!
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Yes, I've seen it on the iPad. The GUI is much better, as you mentioned, but typically the live playback was the same in my experience. They both looked acceptable on the iPad and my Nexus 10. Of course with 4.2.2 all that seemed to change and now I have stutter. I really hope this can somehow be resolved. I only use probably about 5 apps on my N10 on a consistent basis and this is one of them.
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The reason I'm asking is because this (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.directv.dvrscheduler) is one of the main apps I use on my nexus 10 and ever since I did the upgrade to 4.2.2 it exhibits stutter during live TV playback. I can't be certain this is related to 4.2.2 and thus my question, is anyone using this app with 4.2.2 and successfully playing back live TV stutter free? Like I said, it was stable for me up until just a couple weeks ago.
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Do you have the full range of channels to watch live? Or a select few?
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Do you have the full range of channels to watch live? Or a select few?
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The app only allows for a select number, but I think there are quite a few, something like channel 200 and above. Personally, I watch it for The Tennis Channel and HGTV while I'm working out. Of course I can't any more since something seems to be an issue. I keep wondering whether anyone on 4.2.2 is able to stream live TV or not. I was able to do it with 4.2.1 just fine.
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The app only allows for a select number, but I think there are quite a few, something like channel 200 and above. Personally, I watch it for The Tennis Channel and HGTV while I'm working out. Of course I can't any more since something seems to be an issue. I keep wondering whether anyone on 4.2.2 is able to stream live TV or not. I was able to do it with 4.2.1 just fine.
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I just pulled up the DirecTv app for the first time since the 4.2.2 update to do live streaming. EXACT same problem as you. Stuttering where it was smooth before. Same is true for the tablet and phone version of the app. I would say 4.2.2 is the likely culprit unfortunately.
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I just pulled up the DirecTv app for the first time since the 4.2.2 update to do live streaming. EXACT same problem as you. Stuttering where it was smooth before. Same is true for the tablet and phone version of the app. I would say 4.2.2 is the likely culprit unfortunately.
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Thank you so much for confirming this. Any thoughts on who we might be able to reach out to so that they have an awareness that this issue exists? I'm not quite sure who is best to contact when it comes to the developers of the android operating system.
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Thank you so much for confirming this. Any thoughts on who we might be able to reach out to so that they have an awareness that this issue exists? I'm not quite sure who is best to contact when it comes to the developers of the android operating system.
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I'm guessing there's pretty much nothing you can do other than downrating in the market and explaining why. That's what I did.
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I can't take this any longer. Watching DirecTV on my tablet was one of the primary reasons I purchased it. DirecTV just released a brand new app for Android and it looks almost identical to the iPad's (very nice GUI). But guess what? The stupid live streaming also fails on the Nexus 10 with the latest OS updates in the same way their other app did. Unbelievable. I've done what I can to contact DirecTV and Google about the issues, but I'm not seeing much response and since it has already been probably 4 months I'm not expecting a true resolution any time soon.
SO...this leaves me with taking matters in to my own hands. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to rooting, but I guess what I need to do is root the device and either install a different build or roll back the Google OS to 4.2.1, the version that worked with the DirecTV app. Could anyone point me in the right direction of what the best course of action might be to accomplish this? There are so many posts with what seems like so many options I am overwhelmed. Any guidance is appreciated.
Now with the update to 4.3 it won't stream at all. Just goes blank. Fantastic.
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Now with the update to 4.3 it won't stream at all. Just goes blank. Fantastic.
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I'm getting the exact same thing after the 4.3 update. What is Google thinking!?!? And how long before they actually fix major bugs like this?
Finally finally finally. DirecTV has fixed this app. It doesn't appear the picture quality is as good as it used to be, but I'm not really going to complain about that. They at least have it operational again. Where I will complain is around the time it took to get a resolution. For as much DirecTV is advertising their mobile viewing ability with tablets and cell phones, this should have been an "all hands on deck" priority for them and it wasn't. DirecTV, you can do better, but for the moment, I will give them credit for getting it done.
I have been trying to tweak (sideload) apps to the ouya to change the user experience, up to now ive only been able to install jellybean launcher, from the play store, from devweloper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.concentriclivers.launcher&hl=en its the only one that works with the remote and doesnt force close, ive tried adding a notification bar app, but the ouya system blocks it like a bad virus lol, as well as the google anything because i cant even install gmail, xbmc works great, i downloaded it from their site http://xbmc.org/ and a bunch of emulators, you choose, the app thats a wonder although is not scaled for the ouya is http://www.aptoide.com/ is not google play store, but it allows you to search for apps without downloading separate apks, i also have played ouya games from the ouya market and gotta say are pretty snappy, so thats a relief, if you guys want support from your favorite apps/developers, then go ahead to the google play store and send the developers some good ol' emails let them know we want the apps/games we've already payed for on our ouyas too, makes sense no?, hope you guys find this useful
PS do not install " Go Launcher HD" itll make your ouya useless and un-usable, trust me i had ti return my first one stick to simple launchers because fancy ones tend to switch rotation and they'll get stuck like that, good day
What was useless with Go Launcher HD? I have it installed and have zero issues.
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What was useless with Go Launcher HD? I have it installed and have zero issues.
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I'm still trying to figure out what part of this thread was news? Seems more like the kind of thing he'd wanna put in a diary or a thread titled, "things you already know but I'm gonna tell you anyways".
well idk but i installed it and forced my console into bootloop
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thanks you may know this, great but someone else may not ,if you have nothing nice to say dont
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Hi guys,
This isn't necessarily a Nexus 5 app per se, but I do own the device and I love it.
I envision people using this app on their tablets to download sheet music and be able to play it right away.
If you don't own an android tablet, you can use it on your phone and I've added share functionality so that the PDFs can be sent right away from within the app, to say DropBox or other cloud file services so that they can be viewed on other devices or even printed.
If you guys play piano, let me know what you think, or maybe just spread the words to your friends that do.
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Hi guys,
This isn't necessarily a Nexus 5 app per se, but I do own the device and I love it.
I envision people using this app on their tablets to download sheet music and be able to play it right away.
If you don't own an android tablet, you can use it on your phone and I've added share functionality so that the PDFs can be sent right away from within the app, to say DropBox or other cloud file services so that they can be viewed on other devices or even printed.
If you guys play piano, let me know what you think, or maybe just spread the words to your friends that do.
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where is the app? name?
Omg I totally derped didn't I...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wang.gangqinpu
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Omg I totally derped didn't I...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wang.gangqinpu
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Looks pretty nice, clean & simple, congrats.. :good:
It says that it is incompatible with all my devices!
I have a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Asus transformer TF301 and nvidia shield!
Edit: it looks like it isn't available in my country!
Oh really? What country are you from?
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Try mine too!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.houssni.filemanager