Made the switch back to 4.4.4. Could not be happier. - Moto X General

Ahhh what a relief!! Downgraded back to KitKat and is sure yummier than lollipop which is in my opinion the worest os Google released ever. What encouraged me was the support drop from Motorola regarding upgrading to Android M.
With lollipop I had all sorts of bugs
YouTube freeze, speaker crackling, huge battery consumption, app optimization at every reboot, and a general heat issue that I couldn't figure out.
Did I mention the cell standby battery drain?!!!
I hated the phone period.
This downgrade made me remember why I bought it in the first place.
All day battery (I also installed Qualcomm battery guru which is helping me, this is a 2 year old phone so expect a battery degradation)
Very smooth ui. No heat. No freakin cell standby issue. Oh and all black ui baby.
I didn't switch to another rom because I didn't want to lose moto features.
The only drawback from downgrading is that I am back to " OK Google now" instead of "okay tarz " on lollipop. Minor inconvenience to me
Oh by the way, the wave to unlock feature/ bug in KitKat is awesome.
I used this guide which is for xt1052 though I have the xt1053 . u will need an unlocked bootloader and a moto firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
Oh when you downgrad, don't update the moto update service from the play store or else your phone will start looking for the lollipop upgrade.
A final thought:
This is the last moto device I am buying. Don't like lenovo management and ditching all those who bought the x 2014 on Carriers from upgrading to M. I mean some of them bought the phone a few months ago and their bootloaders are locked. Bad move.

Right on. You go girl.

wave to wake working? in active display???

Jizzylax said:
Right on. You go girl.
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Girl?????

nijom said:
wave to wake working? in active display???
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Wave your hands over the proximity sensor and the phone will wake up

time for downgrade then!
sherif2015 said:
Wave your hands over the proximity sensor and the phone will wake up
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I have no other issue with Lollipop but I miss this.
I'll have to touch my phone or keep my hand over (in the air) it for few seconds for Active Display to show notifications.
It needed just a wave in Kitkat.
Also the custom Moto Voice is good (instead of Ok Google) but I need wave to wake.
So I need to look how to unlock my bootloader as Im on stock unrooted Lollipop Xt1052.
Thanks

nijom said:
I have no other issue with Lollipop but I miss this.
I'll have to touch my phone or keep my hand over (in the air) it for few seconds for Active Display to show notifications.
It needed just a wave in Kitkat.
Also the custom Moto Voice is good (instead of Ok Google) but I need wave to wake.
So I need to look how to unlock my bootloader as Im on stock unrooted Lollipop Xt1052.
Thanks
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Am too urooted . unlocked bootloader via Motorola site.

sherif2015 said:
Am too urooted . unlocked bootloader via Motorola site.
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Thanks for the heads up..
I didn't know how to unlock and I'll check Motorola site.
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Thanks for the post.
I was considering either going back to 4.4.4 or trying CM. But over on the CM thread, it's nothing but people debugging.
This post really made up my mind.
Even the icons for lollipop are a step back. They look like the childish designs from LG and Samsung. Wave to Wake is gone, Cell standby bug destroying battery life with no hope for a fix in the until 2016 it looks like. I will say that some apps do seem to be optimized compared to KitKat though.
On my device I could still change the Google Voice command to something else.
At first I wanted the cutting edge software, but since this device will never be getting M, there's no reason for that.
Someone told me a long time ago, there's no reason to update something unless it needs to be updated. I should have remembered that advice.
Edit* It seems that I can't unlock the bootloader on my Verizon Moto X. That's annoying.

Is 4.4.4 vulnerable to stagefright?

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Is 4.4.4 vulnerable to stagefright?
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I suppose you could just use an app like Textra that alright has protection built in.

Satisfied thus far. The phone is much cooler to the touch unlike on lollipop and did I mention that sweet black on the amoled screen

sherif2015 said:
The only drawback from downgrading is that I am back to " OK Google now" instead of "okay tarz " on lollipop. Minor inconvenience to me
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Oh really now ? I think "tarz" sounds pretty good . Here , http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...e-2da-generacion-moto-x-4-4-4-t2871296/page25 go on ahead , keep calling your phone "tarz" :highfive:

Xposed and boom! Lp icons
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Back to 4.4.4 and couldn't be happier. No more burning battery while the phone is unused. Wave to wake works. Really happy I went back after several months.

I went back successfully on xt1052 O2 DE .
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4 hours sot on a 2 year old phone. This unexpected turn of events made me reconsider my decision to buy a new phone. Lollipop is the worest OS Google made. Very happy with my moto x.

SO TRUE!!!
MortimerR said:
Thanks for the post.
I would like to qualify this post by first saying that I am the proud new owner, of a Moto X pure 2015 edition
mechanically the phone is great. But man, ohm man do I hate the theme.
I'm absolutely sick already, of the 60s Art Deco, puffy pink popcorn, Willy Wonka, dancing hippo Disney themed, sherbet color design, theme, and icons.
It is like this whole art design was designed by a group of first-year art student interns, working for *****y Hollywood movie set hairstylists.
things I liked about KitKat 4.1, included the minimalist design, default black backgrounds, black dialer, black SMS app, and simplicity of use.
In fact, does anybody know how I can get my Moto X pure 2015, back to those old kit looks?
I have included a couple of screenshots, of the themes I would love to get back to.
original classic flavor text theme: https://flic.kr/p/zvMMJC
original classic flavor dialer Theme: https://flic.kr/p/yRnUt9
original classic contacts Theme: https://flic.kr/p/zPjr72
help!
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papamalo said:
does anybody know how I can get my Moto X pure 2015, back to those old kit looks?
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I can revert back to 4.4 and give my phone to you if you agree to give me yours

papamalo said:
MortimerR said:
Thanks for the post.
I would like to qualify this post by first saying that I am the proud new owner, of a Moto X pure 2015 edition
mechanically the phone is great. But man, ohm man do I hate the theme.
I'm absolutely sick already, of the 60s Art Deco, puffy pink popcorn, Willy Wonka, dancing hippo Disney themed, sherbet color design, theme, and icons.
It is like this whole art design was designed by a group of first-year art student interns, working for *****y Hollywood movie set hairstylists.
things I liked about KitKat 4.1, included the minimalist design, default black backgrounds, black dialer, black SMS app, and simplicity of use.
In fact, does anybody know how I can get my Moto X pure 2015, back to those old kit looks?
I have included a couple of screenshots, of the themes I would love to get back to.
original classic flavor text theme: https://flic.kr/p/zvMMJC
original classic flavor dialer Theme: https://flic.kr/p/yRnUt9
original classic contacts Theme: https://flic.kr/p/zPjr72
help!
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Download exdialer from the store. It had a black theme. I am sure there is an SMS application that also has a black theme
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Verizon G2 ROM Availability... and how to cope with being spoiled.

Greetings all-
My coworker got a shiny new Verizon LG G2 last Friday. He knows I am a phone geek so he handed it to me to check it out. I booted it up and fell in love within about 3 seconds. You know what it was?? The notification LED.
I have been using a HTC DNA (powered by ViperDNA) for the past 5 months and I REALLY miss having a functional LED. I use LightFlow and got so used to being able to determine notifications with the screen off thanks to the LED on my previous phone (GNex). So I played with the G2 a little, checked the specs online, and decided to get one myself. My company has plenty of phones that qualify for upgrades and there was a special that made it cost a whopping $0.
I immediately started researching available ROMs and recovery methods. I know this is one of the new hotness phones out so I knew there must be some sweet dev going on.
So I get the phone, root and install TWRP, and install my chosen ROM (a very popular one here). I am not gonna name it because I know all devs here do excellent work and I don't want to seem like I am talking bad about a ROM by name. The ROM does what it says, it runs well with no real bugs, and it is fast as hell.
That being said, I can't help to be disappointed. The ViperDNA ROM is AMAZING. I mean, it is everything imaginable in a ROM. Every element of the thing is customizable, removable, colorable, and everythingelse-able. This ROM for the G2 is missing a LOT that I assumed would be built-in. I can't even move the clock in the status bar, or remove it, or color it. I can't make the navigation bar transparent, or the notification bar. It is driving me crazy that I can't even change the notification icons. They are ugly as hell. The battery icon does not even show the remaining percentage. Also there are no Settings options for overclocking, voltage regulation, CPU governor, or IO Scheduler. Sure I can check these with other apps from the Market, but I like having Settings options too. These tweaks are not important to everyone, but they are important to me.
I did try another ROM that is more of a CM10-ish variant, but that looks even worse. Plus I like a lot of the LG apps (especially the email camera) and I want to try to keep some of the identity of the device.
Make no mistake, this G2 ROM is very good. Please don't think I am hating on it. I know the dev is still working on it and is very active here and helpful. I am pretty sure the next versions of the ROM will focus on newer version of Android (4.3, 4.4) so I am not sure if any of the things I want will be in there.
So what's a guy to do?? I am so spoiled by the amazing ViperDNA ROM. Do any of you know if there are any ultra-customizable ROMs out there for the G2? I know the phone has not been out more than a few months, so maybe it is just too early.
Thoughts???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46337640
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
trickster2369 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46337640
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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Excellent!! Thanks so much for this. I am investigating it now.
Have fun with it. It's not perfect yet, but the dev is very active with betas and issues that arise.
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
Wait you don't want to mention a rom by name and then you proceed to mention a rom by name?
He didn't want to mention one from the LG G2 forum.
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
So I installed Xposed and I bought the associated Settings app from the Play store. It does allow a few of the things I want, but it's just a taste. I still have very ugly battery, 4G, service, etc icons in the notification bar, and the notification icons for apps also look bad. Baby steps... at least now I got rid of the clock on the notification bar and made the navigation bar smaller.
fr8cture said:
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I still have not mentioned the name of the ROM I am using now on my G2. I am hoping that eventually there will be skins/themes/mods available that will allow me to make things prettier.
Thanks for the info guys.
- J

[Q]AOSP G2 only?

Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
DroidQ said:
Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Thats why im getting it....
david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Im gonna root it day one and run CM11. Im on sprint so i could have took the easy route with a n5 but I like to do some tinkering so here i go.
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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JRJ442 said:
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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Some have issues getting ROMs to flash on the 12B for VZW update. But over time all the ROMs will have that fixed. The ROM community seem to have most of the bugs fixed or they're working on fixing them. I'd say give some a try.
DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
graig79 said:
I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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This is good to hear. It sounds like G2 is the next best thing to having a Nexus on Verizon. At least I know I am not crazy or at least no alone in wanted to root and rom immediately.
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. The battery and camera are hard to ignore especially when they are two of my biggest issues with my Galaxy Nexus. Hardware you cannot change, but software.... I will check out PA, CM and the other AOSP options available. I guess I better research and prepare for 12B just in case it is already updated.
I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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kennypow3rs said:
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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Rodeojones said:
I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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DroidQ said:
What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I wanted to reply in this thread but you did it for me. Exactly what happened with me (Intl instead of Verizon).
DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
Rodeojones said:
Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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khaytsus said:
Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Sounds like 'to each their own...' regarding the rear keys, yet they do not appear to be a deal breaker or keeping you from enjoying the phone.
I recently read a review that praised the hardware, yet cursed the software. They even commented that this phone is probably better for people who root phones. I am looking forward to doing so.

Yay Lollipop for Droid turbo... it sucks, tons of issues

I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...
endafy said:
I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...
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Is it a soak version or official? Yours is droid turbo or just Moto Maxx?
Please update more for us, thanks!!!!
chrisjenho said:
Is it a soak version or official? Yours is droid turbo or just Moto Maxx?
Please update more for us, thanks!!!!
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Sorry Droid Turbo, and no I don't do soak tests. I rely too heavily on the device for business. I have a feeling the update may get delayed due to this. Trust me there are issues, and it is the only reason I noticed I got the update at all. The Maxx is the non-Verizon version.
Can you post some screenshot of the 'about phone'?
Any new stuff on the lollipop for droid turbo?
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Also, I think you can downgrade the phone to 4.4.4 by RSD, if you need the firmware.xml, I get send a link to you.
If you've got lollipop, then why is the usb debugging icon from kitkat? :/
It's an alternative launcher....
So you got the update this morning? And yet you already know how the battery life is? Yeah nothing to see here, move along. Let's lock this before it gets out of hand
The op is also the guy that claims to have got root working.. Then provided Nada...
There's actually no indicative that it's lollipop. It's just the Google Now launcher before and after the update (app update)
Everything looks as kitkat as it could. Sorry, pal. You didn't fool us
Hey look, I got the update too!!
Its called an updated Google Now Launcher (or any other up to date third party launcher for that matter), not Lollipop.
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I can't figure out how to edit the top post on this
Got the update this morning and hardly noticed. One thing to note is the Verizon messaging application crashes when trying to send and receive MMS forcing me to use the new version. I only noticed because of this glitch. It has other instabilities as well and my battery suffered a loss, I only get about a full days use where I used to have almost 2. Also the phone keeps going into Airplane mode. The camera can't record in 4k mode either...
The first is the phone before the update, the latter two are after... Still near stock with circles widget. I can take it in to get it replaced, but I don't want the Verizon tramp stamp...
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Nice google now launcher. Nice try
cauebs said:
If you've got lollipop, then why is the usb debugging icon from kitkat? :/
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This guys is a regular liar. He is using Nova, nay the Google Now Launcher.
zathus said:
So you got the update this morning? And yet you already know how the battery life is? Yeah nothing to see here, move along. Let's lock this before it gets out of hand
The op is also the guy that claims to have got root working.. Then provided Nada...
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He also claimed that the soak test was over and Lollipop was rolling out two weeks ago. Of course, some of us know better.
Damn, the guy didn't even had the work to change the Kitkat debug logo on the status bar. I don't know if he's a bad pretender or really believed that his device was updated.
videtonator said:
Damn, the guy didn't even had the work to change the Kitkat debug logo on the status bar. I don't know if he's a bad pretender or really believed that his device was updated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58560723&postcount=10
Go ask Motorola for yourselves, it is past the soak test, and is now rolling out in the first wave. As soon as my device gets the update I will post screenshots, but I did provide proof of the Motorola conversation screenshot. I didn't even edit out my name. I stand by my word.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...rbo-rooted-t3001024/post58177983#post58177983
I have it temporarily rooted, it loses root upon reboot, please wait until I can get a script working. I have been granted temporary root via camera. It grants temporary root via USB Debugging turned on with MTP and all that turned off. I have been able to remove VZW Bloatware... no luck on bootloader yet though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58794613&postcount=1
endafy said:
I thought I would, but everything I used to use root for I can do non-rooted now. This has all that I want and more, only a few minor setbacks.
USB OTG for storage, and USB gamepad, keyboards etc...
Wireless HDMI
USB Tethering I use PDA Net
Sideloading applications, provided they are signed, and signing an unsigned application isn't that hard...
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I can hide the apps (only drawback) but not uninstall them
I can't load kernel modules
Buttons are hardware so changing them is a non-issue
I can't change the battery icon
In fact up until the Lollipop update, the device has been fast, smooth, stable, and did everything I wanted. I think rooting and romming aside, and of course my next phone will be a developer phone, but I can live without root for a little while, this works well. I am off to the Verizon store to replace this so I can get a working Kit-Kat version, if I can get one without the Verizon trampstamp. If not I will just wait for a fix which will be coming shortly.
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This guy is worthy of your ignore list. He first claims soak is over and Lollipop is rolling out weeks ago, then posts a launcher fake-out.
He claims he has root, then says he doesn't miss it? what a troll.
adrynalyne said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58560723&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...rbo-rooted-t3001024/post58177983#post58177983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58794613&postcount=1
This guy is worthy of your ignore list. He first claims soak is over and Lollipop is rolling out weeks ago, then posts a launcher fake-out.
He claims he has root, then says he doesn't miss it? what a troll.
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I already reported him as did a few others so hopefully they can deal with him. He must live a sad life, I really feel bad for him
All it took was 2 seconds looking at the wifi icon to see that this wasn't lollipop. I mean, come on, really? What's the point in this? I agree, definitely worthy of ignore list.
ahaynes42 said:
All it took was 2 seconds looking at the wifi icon to see that this wasn't lollipop. I mean, come on, really? What's the point in this? I agree, definitely worthy of ignore list.
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Depending on the oem the wifi icon may or may not change. If you look at the s5 for verizon that icon didnt change.
the_rooter said:
Depending on the oem the wifi icon may or may not change. If you look at the s5 for verizon that icon didnt change.
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That's touchwiz you're talking about. It doesn't look like stock android anyway. The Turbo (like most Moto phones) is meant to be as close to stock as possible. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that our wifi icon will be solid white when we get the update.
How the hell does he get a full day of use if he got the update this morning. Please close thread and stop giving him attention.
Stop the bull****, the wifi icons are from kitkat

We've got the g4 but no party along with it?

I just got my g4 in the mail and I'm loving it. First phone I ordered brand new so it's my first time seeing an empty forum. No root, no twrp, no xposed. Nothing!
Do you guys have non-root alternatives to our favorite root apps and mods?
Keyplus is great for binding the torch to the volume up key
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptuners.keyplusapp
WHO ELSE IS LOVING THEIR G4?!?!
yea, it's been weird for me too. I've had HTC flagships the last 5-6 years. Always got it and already had unlock, root, recovery and some ROMs. This is a whole new feeling for me. We have root for the 815, which I have. So I'll grab that tonight.
LOVING the device too - exceeds my expectations for sure. Gorgeous display, fast, loud speaker, no complaints at all. But yea, missing the activity in the forum to go along with it!
TWRP is available now!
We didn't get root on the G3 for a while....Wait for more devs to get their phones as well.
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I did an JUMP! 1 upgrade from a Nexus 6. This is my first LG G Series device and I gotta say I like the size and the Quad HD IPS Display is awesome!!! Now if I can remove the T-Mobile bloat, I'll be happy.
f2bacon said:
I just got my g4 in the mail and I'm loving it. First phone I ordered brand new so it's my first time seeing an empty forum. No root, no twrp, no xposed. Nothing!
Do you guys have non-root alternatives to our favorite root apps and mods?
Keyplus is great for binding the torch to the volume up key
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptuners.keyplusapp
WHO ELSE IS LOVING THEIR G4?!?!
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Well, I mean, the phone hasn't been officially released through all carriers yet so it's hard to already have every form of development already processed. Give it a month for root, another couple for BL unlocked and after both of those a few weeks and the pages will explode
Dennisg34 said:
Well, I mean, the phone hasn't been officially released through all carriers yet so it's hard to already have every form of development already processed. Give it a month for root, another couple for BL unlocked and after both of those a few weeks and the pages will explode
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At this time the G5 will be released [emoji12]
Fir3blade said:
At this time the G5 will be released [emoji12]
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...not at all. The G3 was BL unlocked (Verizon) many many months before this phone came out.
We're all going to be learning lessons in patience then hahaha. The 815 is getting the response I could only dream of the 811 having.
But the whole reason I started the thread was to ask if there are non-root variations of the root apps we love so much. Like removing bloatware, changing the dpi, all the stuff like that. unachievable without root?
Quietest forum I've seen.
DeadSOL said:
Quietest forum I've seen.
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Wait till people get their hands on theirs. Im coming from an S6 that i loved besides battery life, the G4 is a winner. Big time.
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Its because none of the devs have this phone yet. If you would like to help get this phone rooted, unlock the BL and make way for custom ROMs; please donate here: gofundme.com/vwn2dk
They are only a couple hundred bucks away from the goal! Team Codefire will be getting one for sure.
unfortunately it looks like the party is only going to be for the ones who got the international version. the models for the US phone carriers do not look like they'll be rooted. kinda sucks
Just be patient, LG will provide unlock for other models soon.
You can change your dpi without root using adb. I already had adb set up, so I just used the commands from here: http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
Mine is at 560 right now. Stock dpi is 640.
jesamyn said:
You can change your dpi without root using adb. I already had adb set up, so I just used the commands from here: http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
Mine is at 560 right now. Stock dpi is 640.
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I tried changing mine to 560, but the stock launcher doesn't like it. Lots of graphical glitches with icons.
the_scotsman said:
I tried changing mine to 560, but the stock launcher doesn't like it. Lots of graphical glitches with icons.
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Ack! Sorry to hear that. I'm using Nova and didn't even think about it.
~ sent from my LG G4 (H811) using Tapatalk
DeadSOL said:
Quietest forum I've seen.
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Tell me about it. You'd think LG would be more welcoming to developers, seeing as they were late to the game and knowing their main competition already has root for their devices. The more and more I use my G4, the more half-baked the phone seems.
chrisokaly said:
unfortunately it looks like the party is only going to be for the ones who got the international version. the models for the US phone carriers do not look like they'll be rooted. kinda sucks
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And you came to this conclusion how? The G2 and G3 have root and custom ROMs for all US models.
there is still people waiting for the phones. I myself just got mine yesterday like some one said earlier it took awhile for root to come to the g3 i remember waiting for it when i first got the g3 too.

How to return to 6.0.1 S7 from 7.0, ODIN

Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
RoxasTerra said:
Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Why not use the debloat rom and native tethering? More than one way to skin a cat.
Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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The Hybrid ROM is not-rooted. You get the performance of the stock kernel with a very well debloated system. It also has the hotspot fix implemented. The ROM even passes SafetyNet. I haven't downgraded to MM from Nougat, so I can't give any insight on that part.
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
spearoid said:
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/development/rom-t3576124/page13
I have it running on two phones and have no gripes.
I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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The hybrid rom is just 7.0 debloated for vzw and tmo, but working on all us s7 flay/edge variants. The only way back would be odin if Samsung didn't lock the bootloader to not allow a downgrade
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
n240sxle91 said:
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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The unlocked ones aren't bootloader unlocked, just carrier unlocked. So, when they get the N update, they will also most likely not be able to downgrade. I would suggest the hybrid and staying with the demon you have than to worry about root and associated apps, but to each their own. There are free themes that can help with things and apps galore to customize most of the phone.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
spearoid said:
well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Check the theme app. There are dark themes there thay help out a lot.
spearoid said:
well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Does this change the colors of the notification shade and such? I don't use any stock launchers, icons, etc....I use Nova Launcher
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Okay so I went ahead and looked into it a little further....perhaps I will find one that gives me what I want.....a little skeptical of custom themes in general....boy how I miss the simplistic Holo days!
Thanks guys for the input! I'll consider the hybrid rom. It might be what I do. Can the hybrid rom have the contacts app and calendar app from the stock marshmallow rom? If I had those I could probably live with the rest.
Just thought I'd update people who come here looking to do the same thing. You CAN use ODIN to reinstall the stock 6.0.1 image even after you've updated to Nougat. You have to turn on the hidden "developer options" in the S7's settings first, but after that it works perfectly. Then you just need to disable the packages that download/notify you about the OTA update.
Thanks goes to CVertigo1, and everyone else here, for helping me out with this! So happy to be back on Marshmallow! Maybe in a few months they'll change the apps/UI back and I'll try Nougat again. One can hope!
OK, here's the latest. I rolled back to 6.0.1 just fine, but unfortunately I believe Samsung locked the system with the late September update. That means I can't use ADB or Package Disabler Pro to hide/block/disable the OTA update packages. So, I can't disable the packages that stop the OTA update unless I rollback to a ROM before they locked the system. Unfortunately again, the baseband is different for the older updates, so I can't rollback that far.
So, now I have Marshmallow back, but I have the annoying notification update that won't go away too. Still looking for a way around it without root. If anyone has any ideas please let me know!
"Thanks Samsung for locking our phones!" -said no one ever
Alright... last update I think. I found a different app that gets the job done. It's called BK Package Disabler. After you install it you can do a search for "sdm". Disable both of those packages, and the OTA notification goes away, and it doesn't look for any new ones either.
Still on 6.0, but daily SYSTEM UPDATE to 7.0 occurring. Can I shut them off to keep 6.0 for a few more months?
S7 on Verizon
Yeah, if you download BK Disabler from the app store you can stop the notification about the update. Just search for "sdm" in the app. Two packages should pop up. If you disable both of them you should be set.
HOWEVER, I don't know much about this app, so I am not endorsing it. I used it and it worked, but I wasn't able to find a lot of information about it on the forums. So, use at your own risk.

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