Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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odie70 said:
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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I'm pretty sure we will get Android M through various different means, even if Sony doesn't do it.
Does this include the AOSP developer version or just official stable roms?
Official stable roms.
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Bad luck man,3 years is good time tho
You'll be happy with z5 mate
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I know that sony can definitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
KWOKSFUNG said:
I know that sony can difinitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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You're right, I think we deserve the android M from Sony
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
wmcdrugs said:
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Softw...e/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/...0-marshmallow/
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Both of those links are broken.
Fixed, thanks
SuperLamic said:
Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
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Yes, sony dev are suck i guess
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
No hating, but I suggest we all turn up the heat with Z1 getting 6.0. I mean look at the Z, it received updates up until 5.1.1, so it doesn't seem logical that the Z1 being a much newer and higher spec phone compared to the Z gets up to 5.1.1 only. We should get the 6.0 update. As for the Z, IMHO it's update until 5.1.1 is already a welcome farewell to the grandfather beast. Because of the Z, Sony has come along way.
Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Mostly because the updates where just all a mess except 4.4.4
But my mayor concern is if the Z5 sales fail - Sony will for sure sell their Xperia department this time ...
I was really keen to get a Z5, but considering the awesome specs of the Lumina 950 and 950XL, updates as you are used to get them on Windows I probably give it a try. Continuum is just to good to be true. Would the 950 be Waterresistant, no doubt at all to move...
Some people fighting for latest firmware. And there's people like me who still staying with Kit kat for stability and stuff.
PielunA said:
Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
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The core of the ROM is mainly from another device such as the Z2, but they're built against specific device configs. It's really not that complicated and it's something that Sony could easily support as it'd be no different to what they've already done with Lollipop.
The Nexus 5 is similar to the Z1 and that'll be receiving Marshmallow. Hell, the Z2 isn't all that different from the Z1 either. The only difficult part to deal with is the camera, but it's not like Sony can't get it done.
People should keep complaining and demanding the 6.0 update for the Z1 and then we might end up with an update, but if people sit quiet and don't even bother to ask about it then we'll be stuck on 5.1.1 unless you want to unlock your bootloader and install ROM's that will never be 100% stable.
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Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
I like it....
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Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
mysticmetal said:
EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
pietrucci said:
Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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kingvortex said:
Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.
pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
andyukking said:
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.
Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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Well apparently, Android 4.4.4 will be the last update for the older Xperia Z series. The Z, ZL, ZR and Tablet Z will not be receiving the 5.0
update. The Xperia Z3 , Z3 Compact, Z3 Tablet Compact, Z2, Z2
Tablet, Z1 Compact, Z1, and T2 Ultra are said to be the ones that
have been shortlisted to receive the update.
Source:
http://www.androidorigin.com/sony-xperia-z3-compact-z2-tablet-android-l-update-leak/
May well be true. But that's totally expected as Z was launched way back early last year, its past the 18month support.
Having said that, we can't overlook the fact that the Z is one of the best supported devices by Sony. Think about it. (4.1.2,4.2.2,4.3,4.4.4)
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To be honest this phone is quite old now, so not such a big problem. They have given us a lot of good updates, and the phone works great as it is. You cant expect companies to update old devices. Plus all these new Android versions are very similar and not much differences since JellyBean..
I agree that Sony have provided excellent support for this device. Way above my expectations, if I'm honest.
It's no real shock if we don't get L. The Z is over 18 months old now and may be nearly 2 years old when L officially releases.
Personally, I would definitely buy another Sony flagship, even though they do pump them out a little fast for my liking.
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The 1st series of the Xperia Z smartphones were the devices that received the most updates from Sony
From 4.1.2 > 4.2.2 > 4.3 > 4.4.2 & now 4.4.4 ( count as minor update )
They had received a 3 huge updates
So I wouldn't expect Sony to release the Android L for these devices as they were already 18 months old
Btw I will get a Z3 later
Android L update
Based on my observations, I think XZ will get android L update...Compare the details in the following picture and u'll see the difference.
Whenever sony decide to stop the software update, under the software update page of that product they mention it as latest and final version..and when they are going to provide some more updates the mention it as only latest update n not final update....So i think there is huge possibility that XZ will get L update...
onkarsingh_pardeshi said:
Based on my observations, I think XZ will get android L update...Compare the details in the following picture and u'll see the difference.
Whenever sony decide to stop the software update, under the software update page of that product they mention it as latest and final version..and when they are going to provide some more updates the mention it as only latest update n not final update....So i think there is huge possibility that XZ will get L update...
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They only make that change on the update page when the decision to announce that the product is EOL for updates is made. They only recently announced the SP wouldn't get KitKat after months of "investigation".
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XZ may get L via custom ROM
TapaTalked from my Xperia™ (C660²) Z running Dirty Unicorns ROM!
The only chance for Z & ZL is the fact that the nexus 4 will probably get android L (also Snapdragon 4 Pro).
But then again Sony might decide to just end support after 18 months.
I'm not expecting them to update Z series to L, but it would be chance my view from "good support" to "excellent support".
Though I'd rather have a super stable 4.4.4 than a buggy 5.0 release.
Once my ZL hits 2+ years (may 2015) I will look at Z4 compact with 805 soc and Android L .
kingvortex said:
I agree that Sony have provided excellent support for this device. Way above my expectations, if I'm honest.
It's no real shock if we don't get L. The Z is over 18 months old now and may be nearly 2 years old when L officially releases.
Personally, I would definitely buy another Sony flagship, even though they do pump them out a little fast for my liking.
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Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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Hey , last update for Xperia Z is 4.4.4 .... Source said that xperia will never get update to Android L. Sony claims that it will provide all updates...
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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My experience differs. I have none of the lag or other problems reported by others around here, neither in 4.4.2 or 4.4.4. I mean, let's be honest here, none of the software they've provided for the Z is anywhere close to what would be classed as unusable, even the first 4.2.2 rom they provided that was indeed laggy yet still functional.
My expectations may be lower than others though, as I had an LG Optimus 2X before my Z and the stock rom on that was the very definition of "P.O.S"!
This is in fact the only Android device I've owned where I've stayed with the stock rom for this long.
Anyway, show me an Android device, and I'll find you a forum where people are complaining about the manufacturer for one reason or another! It's the nature of advanced users that frequent Internet forums to never be happy with their electronic stuff!
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I think we all knew that L is not gonna happen on Xperia Z... in means of official update
kingvortex said:
My experience differs. I have none of the lag or other problems reported by others around here, neither in 4.4.2 or 4.4.4. I mean, let's be honest here, none of the software they've provided for the Z is anywhere close to what would be classed as unusable, even the first 4.2.2 rom they provided that was indeed laggy yet still functional.
My expectations may be lower than others though, as I had an LG Optimus 2X before my Z and the stock rom on that was the very definition of "P.O.S"!
This is in fact the only Android device I've owned where I've stayed with the stock rom for this long.
Anyway, show me an Android device, and I'll find you a forum where people are complaining about the manufacturer for one reason or another! It's the nature of advanced users that frequent Internet forums to never be happy with their electronic stuff!
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Haha yeah lg 2x was a serious letdown.
I may have higher expectations, but see HTC offers 4.1 to L for their old One.
Its the flagship policy that ruins Sony phones.
They should deserve more, but can't get a "comparable" software support as long as they release 2 flagships a year.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Haha yeah lg 2x was a serious letdown.
I may have higher expectations, but see HTC offers 4.1 to L for their old One.
Its the flagship policy that ruins Sony phones.
They should deserve more, but can't get a "comparable" software support as long as they release 2 flagships a year.
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Yeah, I said earlier that they release flagships too fast. Every 6 months is too soon and each new one isn't really a huge upgrade from the last.
Anyway, I'm looking at keeping the Z for another 6 months then will look at what's around. Z4/Z4C maybe, or Nexus if there's a new one released.
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Yeah, I said earlier that they release flagships too fast. Every 6 months is too soon and each new one isn't really a huge upgrade from the last.
Anyway, I'm looking at keeping the Z for another 6 months then will look at what's around. Z4/Z4C maybe, or Nexus if there's a new one released.
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The Z is an awesome and beautiful phone, but knowing Sony will take months to do a stable release i'll sell my Z with a heavy heart and return to a Nexus.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Personally i can't agree.
The Z was updated always to latest, but:
The last fully usable firmware was the latest 4.2.2.
Everything past was buggy or unstable.
KitKat is now a year old but we still have no daily usable firmware, still annoying lags everywhere.
I do like Sony and use it since 4 years, but the Z's software and support is not on par with other comparable devices.
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Not true.
4.3 was 100% stable and fast.
Only 4.4.2 was buggy.
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Not true.
4.3 was 100% stable and fast.
Only 4.4.2 was buggy.
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As much as i'd like to agree, there were several bugs.
Plus it became laggy after some time of usage, the same is happening on other xperias too.
But lets stop OT now.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
As much as i'd like to agree, there were several bugs.
Plus it became laggy after some time of usage, the same is happening on other xperias too.
But lets stop OT now.
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Well, not for me.
I was on 4.3 for MONTHS because 4.4.2 didn't come for my cust.nr until ~august 2014 (and didn't care for 4.4.2).
Never any real lags either and didn't reboot for periods of weeks.
4.4.4 is a pretty stable release. Battery life is good too. As it is, the Android L update is slated to arrive on Sony Phones in Feb 2015. By that time, the Z will be 2 years old. Too old in this universe.
We should get custom rom ports though. Android L does look promising. Especially since Sony will dish out a new UI
If you guys could switch from z2 right now to any phone what would it be? Share
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There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
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There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty. There's nothing out there which remotely compares to this phone other than the Z3, and most of its advantages will likely be in the Z2 soon, too. And personally, I prefer the styling of the Z2 over the Z3.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty.
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Ha ha hadn't thought of that, a purple Z2 for me then
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Z3 compact
I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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Pretty much the same as everyone else.
I've only had my Z2 for a few weeks, but as far as I'm concerned, I don't want to swap for another phone, even a Z3.
Like some of the other guys, I prefer the styling of the Z2 and, thanks to Niaboc79's ROM, I have most of the Z3's bells and whistles anyway. HD Audio and a slimmer design just aren't enough of a reason to upgrade to a Z3 and there's nothing else out there that catches my eye.
For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
Think I would consider an LG G3
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I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
Id probably swap for a Z2 with a 4.4.4 FTF on the internal storage
In other words im happy with Z2
You will need to wait until March / April time for the next batch of phones. After how Sony treated the Z2 i do not think i will ever touch a sony phone again.
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For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Yes, @niaboc79's ROM is the single reason I have got a M8, REAL TALK!!!!!
Check out NUT's dual recovery for locked bootloaders, ist a combination of a stock kernel with a custom recovery.
There are threads in the Z2 forums that detail the process.
I have a unlocked bootloader, so I just smash & flash...
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That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
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It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Jiyeon90 said:
It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Is it the DSEE HX thing? If it is, according to the leak 4.4.4 rom, the Z2 will get it also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/rom-exr-sony-xperia-z24-4-423-0-1-0-t2907571
sofia-captivate said:
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Quite the opposite, it's just that the Z2 ticks all the boxes for me, but at a push the M8 or Nexus 6 would suffice.
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ldorbin said:
Think I would consider an LG G3
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I was all set and then I heard about the battery life.
3f1f37 said:
For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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sofia-captivate said:
Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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Creator of existenz rom
Very good dev, very good in coding
able to make 'well put together' and clean stock based custom roms
Many use of very serious post though
Sony are busy congratulating themselves about bringing the new android 6 Marshmallow upgrade to Sony devices.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Think it's pretty crappy that the Z1 and Z1 compact are not included. Great expected life cycle for their products. Most new handsets in UK are on a 2 year contract. Shame they can't provide updates for at least that long before expecting you to get a shiny new phone (with another 2 year contract).
Seriously thinking that the Z1C will be my last Sony product.
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marshmallow z1c
asmad said:
Sony are busy congratulating themselves about bringing the new android 6 Marshmallow upgrade to Sony devices.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Think it's pretty crappy that the Z1 and Z1 compact are not included. Great expected life cycle for their products. Most new handsets in UK are on a 2 year contract. Shame they can't provide updates for at least that long before expecting you to get a shiny new phone (with another 2 year contract).
Seriously thinking that the Z1C will be my last Sony product.
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That would be really a shame, the z1c isn't "old" and there are no hardware limitations for getting an update. z1c was released in Europe January/February 2014.
I was opitimistic until today that my device would get the Marshmallow update. I'm curious if they will at least deliver security fixes for 5.1.1.
When you say that you will now switch to another brand - well, please tell me, who sells a smartphone < 4,7 " with high end hardware and better support?
Good question grisu59964. Hopefully by the time my contract is up in May 2016 something new and shiny will catch my eye.
I've had Sony phones since they bought into Ericsson and to be honest they're not always great. Loved the 1st Walkman phone. (still have it in a drawer) But the Xperia U stands out as a particularly bad example. It couldn't even run Sonys own update to ICS.
Still, even with its faults like not locking the screen while its against my ear during a call, or the mysterious battery drains, random restarts, music player volume and the previous shoddy updates I do kind of like my Z1C.
I guess it's nearly time to root and add a nice custom 6.0 rom.
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Seems that the Z1 will be included in the second batch, so hopefully that means that the Z1C will be included as well.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Comp...ow-leaks-includes-Samsung-Sony-and-LG_id74400
Thats sad. I still hope 6.0 will come to z1 even if its not in the list. Like some said, there is no sence on leaving the z1 behind with a Snap 800. I would like very much to see the efficiency of the battery saving that has been developed in 6.0.
yes, it is sad, but I hope there will be CyanogenMod 13 very soon
I was just about to buy a z1c too lol, guess I'll go with the samsung alpha.
Do your duty! - https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
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I was just about to buy a z1c too lol, guess I'll go with the samsung alpha.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Complete-list-of-phones-to-get-Android-6-Marshmallow-leaks-includes-Samsung-Sony-and-LG_id74400
This link said Z1/Z1c actually will be in second batch but guess that will be in the middle of 2016.
I've got a S6 and Z1c. In my experiences, Samsung camera focus speed blows Z1c away(picture quality indeed Z1c still doing good though not as nice as S6) but if you need waterproof and microSD then Z1c better and much cheaper. Alpha is a bit expensive, you should compare it with Z3c in this price range.
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I was opitimistic until today that my device would get the Marshmallow update. I'm curious if they will at least deliver security fixes for 5.1.1.
When you say that you will now switch to another brand - well, please tell me, who sells a smartphone < 4,7 " with high end hardware and better support?
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Quiet simple : xiaomi is the choice i will change to. It's a software engineer, using the phones as a bridge between user and software. They're producing without win merges, the only contra is the online selling and the shipping duration. Regarding price - hardware related stuff it's the best at the moment.
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Quiet simple : xiaomi is the choice i will change to. It's a software engineer, using the phones as a bridge between user and software. They're producing without win merges, the only contra is the online selling and the shipping duration. Regarding price - hardware related stuff it's the best at the moment.
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Unfortunately, Xiaomi has only devices starting at 5" display size (size comparison). And who says that Xiaomi will provide software support in two years? Unfortunately, not really an alternative.
For now, I hope that CM 13 will make us forget that we use officially obsolete hardware.
heck. Z1 Compact is exact same specs of Nexus5 and not getting Android 6.x?
Z1C is more than capable. its just that Sony wants us to upgrade to Z5 Compact, so they won't make official marshmallow rom for it.
its the usual term : planned obsolesence.
As the updates are flowing in, i feel we've been followed much closely now, so on second thoughts, I'd go back to symbian and have Linux based laptop, sorted. Why can't we port gingerbread on contemporary handset? An OEM will never be complete and a custom rom would never match OEM's algorithms, catch 22. Look where CM had started and what now it has become same sh*t in different way.
Every company wants control but I have faith in Developers, especially independent. And all this "security" thing is overrated, what are trying to hide anyway? rather from whom? I mean, as a consumer.
Have you signed this petition?
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
Go for it. Takes just a few seconds.
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Z1c is mini Z1, witch is 95% Z2. why oh why not do it.
I get the original Z that has S4 pro processor ... but Z1 has SD800 and Z2 SD801 witch is same just bumped up frequencies ...
Meh ..
Side question, If I Bootloader unlock my Z1c, i know i lose the DRM keys, but what exactly i lose in functionality ? lower camera performance like on Z3c?
It would be shame if Sony would just drop Z1c. Leaving it with Stragefright 2.0... The phone should get the update.
I won't change this phone for at least another 1 1/2 years, so marschmallow would be great to stay with...
shame on sony, if they drop the suppport..
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It would be shame if Sony would just drop Z1c. Leaving it with Stragefright 2.0... The phone should get the update.
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I thought 5.1 fixed it - http://www.ibtimes.com/android-511-...ria-z1-z1-compact-z-ultra-rolling-out-2096910 - or is there another one?
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
[edit] http://www.phonearena.com/news/No-Nougat-for-your-Android-phone-You-might-want-to-blame-Qualcomm_id84543
snailpon said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
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Well, just as I thought. I have some hope on developers here, but considering how little work has been done with AOSP and CM I can't expect too much
ridiculous they were teased with devolved Android n
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
codeluca said:
Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Personaly I would go with OP3 or nexus devices. Good specs and developer friendly.
I like OP3 and Xiaomi mi5 but I would miss the SD card... I would consider Huawei P9 or LG G5, but these have poor developer support. Any alternative?
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
Zox09 said:
Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I would have hope if it wasn't for the fact that we don't have an official CM13 yet. All the builds of the CM12.1 are even nightlies and don't offer the audio and camera quality that Stock has. Let's be real, Sony sucks at open sourcing and the community can't do magic
Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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The Z3 is an really nice device. Sad to see that Sony say goodbye to us. I hope customs ROMS can help.
I have Android Nougat 7 Preview 4 running on my Xperia Z3 (and it spontaneously reboots 24 times a day which is a major problem that hopefully the real version will fix). I mean how can they NOT release a real version of Android Nougat?
Well the user base did come together and made Sony change their minds about Xperia M2 and lollipop update... At first it was cut out after which Sony later decided to roll out lollipop for that model...
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I think z3 shouldn't use mm or lollipop rom. Because the device will be very hot and it'll make touch screen died. I know someboby have to replace thier touch screen.
Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
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Meanwhile, Apple released the last iOS 9.3.4 on the iPhone 4S, released in 2011.
Talk about standards. SMH.
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Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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I imagine it was a decision by Qualcomm to force people to get new phones so they sell more chips. And I bet we don't see and 801 devices get official N. Only 805 and later
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iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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That's mean if kernel sources is out, we can build Android 7 rom without Unlock Bootloader?