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Who else plans to get Turbo'd!

I've been holding out for a while now, hanging onto my Droid DNA, for the next best thing to come out for Verizon.
Was not impressed by the Galaxy S5. M8 was a no go because of the camera suckage. Nexus 6 is just too large for my taste. Almost went for the Moto X, until I heard about the Droid Turbo, and decided to hold off, and now I'm very happy I did
So who else plans to order this baby on the 28th with me?
Red or Black? I'm leaning Red!

I really want to preorder a black one on the 28th, but I know logic will prevail and I'll decide to wait a week or so for reviews/issues. Then I'll go to buy one and they'll be out of stock.
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I have a feeling a lot of people will be coming from the DNA as it came out two years ago in November. I almost bought a g3 but the battery life scared me. I am so glad I waited.

Also from the RAZR HD/M line, like me from my M
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I'll be buying a red Turbo and retiring my Maxx HD the day it comes out. I just hope root isn't too far off, since I'm going to miss Xposed.

Definitely getting one of these! Have my trusty DNA still, had an upgrade since March, just waiting for the right device. S5 - no. M8 - bad camera. G3 - almost; battery reports kept me away, along with rumors of the new MotoX. MotoX (2014) - disappointed in specs. Xperia Z3v - maybe... Turbo - check.
Now to decide on red or black...

the Turbo will be replacing my Droid Maxx..I'm currently leaning towards red

I need to get some more information about this phone, but it looks like a good phone to upgrade into!

rajuabju said:
I've been holding out for a while now, hanging onto my Droid DNA, for the next best thing to come out for Verizon.
Was not impressed by the Galaxy S5. M8 was a no go because of the camera suckage. Nexus 6 is just too large for my taste. Almost went for the Moto X, until I heard about the Droid Turbo, and decided to hold off, and now I'm very happy I did
So who else plans to order this baby on the 28th with me?
Red or Black? I'm leaning Red!
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I'll be replacing Razr Maxx HD most likely with this new Turbo. Still in the air over color but right now edge is to the red one but have to actually see it in person. Is the 28th just an annoucement about the phone or is it actually being released on that date and available for pick up??

Only getting if it's rootable
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Well I was REALLY looking at the Nexus 6....but the size and price tag has me rethinking. It will come down to the Turbo, Nexus and Moto X. I am pretty much done with Samsung for now, so my S3 will be retired. If I get one it will be a black one.
Any guesses on the cost?

Cowbell_Guy said:
Only getting if it's rootable
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Hope it doesn't have locked bootloader.
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thebestiam said:
Hope it doesn't have locked bootloader.
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It most certainly will :/

We should all get red.
Red = sex
Black = boring
Sex > Boring
thus, red wins.

Hmmm been trying to finD info on the turbo...will it run 4.4 or 5.0 OS? Verizon takes 6mos to update software.....

KevTN said:
Hmmm been trying to finD info on the turbo...will it run 4.4 or 5.0 OS? Verizon takes 6mos to update software.....
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Well the manual shows 4.4. No material design in the pics.
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I don't have an upgrade but will probably use the edge option. I'll get this baby in red as soon as it runs 5.0

I will..... if I can use it with AT&T
Hi,
I am an international traveler (from time to time) and I need my phone to work with GSM. I know this red beauty does, and because it does... theoretically I can use my AT&T sim card in the US, cannt i? So the only question I need someone to answer me is... will it be available to Non-verizon users?
Cheers

KevTN said:
Hmmm been trying to finD info on the turbo...will it run 4.4 or 5.0 OS? Verizon takes 6mos to update software.....
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Obviously you didnt pay attention to last year's Droid line...the Moto phones are the quickest phones to receive updates now because of how close to vanilla android they are...
id say its probably an 80% chance this phone ships on 4.4.4 but we will have 5.0 before christmas...
thebestiam said:
Hope it doesn't have locked bootloader.
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100% chance it will
hittori said:
Hi,
I am an international traveler (from time to time) and I need my phone to work with GSM. I know this red beauty does, and because it does... theoretically I can use my AT&T sim card in the US, cannt i? So the only question I need someone to answer me is... will it be available to Non-verizon users?
Cheers
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you will probably have to purchase at full retail and then have VZW unlock it

Metfanant said:
Obviously you didnt pay attention to last year's Droid line...the Moto phones are the quickest phones to receive updates now because of how close to vanilla android they are...
id say its probably an 80% chance this phone ships on 4.4.4 but we will have 5.0 before christmas...
100% chance it will
Understand that but it is Verizon who gets in the way most of the time...
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(When?)Will there be a Lollipop update for the ATT G3(D850)?

I know there have been software updates for other versions, but none have been released for the D850. Anyone know when or if it will get the update?

There is unofficial CM 12 if you like the AOSP side of things.

Nobody knows. Im still on 10b in canada.
But if lg releases it by end of the year, maybe arround March / april for north america. Since NA CARRIERS have such a "good record " of releasing updates.......................
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crzygrmn said:
Nobody knows. Im still on 10b in canada.
But if lg releases it by end of the year, maybe arround March / april for north america. Since NA CARRIERS have such a "good record " of releasing updates.......................
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Thanks for rubbing salt in the wound.

jsl34 said:
I know there have been software updates for other versions, but none have been released for the D850. Anyone know when or if it will get the update?
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After att adds all of the bloatware that we instantly remove from our devices lol. Im thinking by the end of december we should have it. Theyve spotted the d850 running lollipop on a benchmark site and that was a few weeks ago. So maybe theyll push it by years end. They obviously have a working build. So we'll see. Regardless vzw will get theirs in December... Of 2046.

You should ask AT&T mate. Best chances to find out.

Why would you think that anyone on here would know?
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Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.

Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow

hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.

I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.

I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.

What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.

Note10.1Dude said:
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:

This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.

People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!

So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?

JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?

AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?

JulesJam said:
The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
Slipfish said:
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.

For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.

Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...

OrenGazala said:
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.

titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.

US Unlock Vs ATT version

Hi All,
Does anyone get change to check new US unlock version available from last week, I am thinking to get that, how good it is like
- Can I get it rooted?
- How it is different from ATT version from H/W specs prospective
Thanks
Prashant

prashant.saraf said:
Hi All,
Does anyone get change to check new US unlock version available from last week, I am thinking to get that, how good it is like
- Can I get it rooted?
- How it is different from ATT version from H/W specs prospective
Thanks
Prashant
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I just got the US unlocked version today: same exact hardware. Just no carrier apps or bloat. I have no intention of rooting as it will break Samsung and Android pay which I use.

Thanks..

I can report voLTE and wifi-calling work with the unlocked version on T-Mobile. Like the previous poster stated, there is no bloat or carrier apps. Tethering works out of the box.
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Do you notice any improvement in multitasking or overall system speed? I'm trying to determine how much of a difference bloat is making in my overall experience.

I don't have a carrier version to compare it to but so far the phone is pretty snappy. I haven't had any issues with ram management or slow downs.
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Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.

Same here May security date. With the phone just launching I'm guessing they will go straight to the July update, bringing it up to the carrier versions.
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kirdroid said:
Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.
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Yes, and that is what I am worrying about. Remember the Samsung Galaxy S4 Dev Edition? There was not ONE single update.
I hope this phone doesn't fall into the same camp. I have a 30 day return period w/ BH Photo so if there are no updates by Aug 1, it will be returned. I already initiated the RMA process to be on the safe side and have my form should I need it.

markwebb said:
Yes, and that is what I am worrying about. Remember the Samsung Galaxy S4 Dev Edition? There was not ONE single update.
I hope this phone doesn't fall into the same camp. I have a 30 day return period w/ BH Photo so if there are no updates by Aug 1, it will be returned. I already initiated the RMA process to be on the safe side and have my form should I need it.
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Nice good strategy, my 14 day return window in best buy will be the coming weekend. I think I'll just keep and see how it goes. If they aren't updating I'm going to sell this when next Nexus comes anyway and probably will not bother with unbranded versions of Samsung phones.
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Hows the snapdragon processor? Do you guys enjoy your phones without root or full control of your own phone?

How's strong is the signals?

kirdroid said:
Nice good strategy, my 14 day return window in best buy will be the coming weekend. I think I'll just keep and see how it goes. If they aren't updating I'm going to sell this when next Nexus comes anyway and probably will not bother with unbranded versions of Samsung phones.
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I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.

markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Nice. I was wondering when the update would push out for this phone.
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kirdroid said:
Interesting my new unlocked US version is still on May security updates while all carrier versions are on July update. Not a good sign if Samsung is prioritizing carrier versions and ignoring the unlocked version.
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The unlocked devices were just released. They will probably start getting updates faster now.
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Well darn, I'm still on May. Set system clock forwards and no update. We shall see.
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tvprocks said:
How's strong is the signals?
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Signal seems comparable if not slightly better than my iPhone 6s that I own.
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Nice!!! You have the edge or the regular S7. Still nothing on my S7 and nothing shows on smart switch as well. Also are you using this on AT&T or T-Mobile?
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markwebb said:
I just got the notification for July security update. Wonders will never cease and now the phone is a keeper.
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Can you screenshot the info page so that I can see the build number?

Anyone know if there is VoLTE on at&t with the unlocked version? This is a deal breaker for me. Not really worried about video or wifi calling.

Firmware update?

I bought Moto G5 Plus retail India version on 1st of June and since then I have not received any firmware update at all. The current security patch on my phone is for the month of March. I want to know does this phone ever receive any firmware update?

Don't expect updates from Lenovo. Return the device if you are looking for security updates
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matrixzone said:
Don't expect updates from Lenovo. Return the device if you are looking for security updates
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I was certainly not expecting this when I thought of buying a Moto branded phone. I really hoped of receiving regular and faster updates for a Moto phone. My Intel based Asus Zenfone 2 was better than this. I used to receive updates almost every month for the first 18 months. I hope Lenovo don't destroy Moto brand. Anyways, thanks for the reply.
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therealankit said:
I was certainly not expecting this when I thought of buying a Moto branded phone. I really hoped of receiving regular and faster updates for a Moto phone.
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No chance mate, you'll get updates but they will few and far between.

MrBelter said:
No chance mate, you'll get updates but they will few and far between.
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Well, as Donald Trump would say, SAD.
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Even redmi note 4 has got more updates than this phone

Just flash LOS. It's pretty close to stock FW, plus you are always on the latest security updates