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Hello all. I am really looking forward to the new Nexus 4 as is everyone else :laugh:. The only question I have, and it's a biggie for me, will there be a wifi calling app for the play store version of the phone. I assume that there will be one for the Tmobile store bought version, but where I live I get little to no cell service. I use the wifi calling anytime I am at the house therefore I need it. I would like to buy the phone from the play store because my contract isn't up soon. If not is it possible that an apk could be made to just flash into the phone's software? Maybe I'm just rambling on here, but I am just happy to see a new Nexus phone. :good::good:
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Hello all. I am really looking forward to the new Nexus 4 as is everyone else :laugh:. The only question I have, and it's a biggie for me, will there be a wifi calling app for the play store version of the phone. I assume that there will be one for the Tmobile store bought version, but where I live I get little to no cell service. I use the wifi calling anytime I am at the house therefore I need it. I would like to buy the phone from the play store because my contract isn't up soon. If not is it possible that an apk could be made to just flash into the phone's software? Maybe I'm just rambling on here, but I am just happy to see a new Nexus phone. :good::good:
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AFAIK wifi calling has not even been confirmed, although it would be strange for a tmo device to lack it. They cannot provide this through the app store due to the complexity and low level nature of it, but it can be flashed if tmo makes it available on their own devices.
I think there are two possibilities:
1 its likely to come on tmo carrier devices sold at subsidy or through tmo, and unlikely to come on play store devices.
2 It is possible that the Nexus 4 will not have wifi calling support at all.
Either way I wouldnt expect wifi calling out of the box with a play store device.
This is not something that can be modded. The galaxy nexus still has no wifi calling support.
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AFAIK wifi calling has not even been confirmed, although it would be strange for a tmo device to lack it. They cannot provide this through the app store due to the complexity and low level nature of it, but it can be flashed if tmo makes it available on their own devices.
I think there are two possibilities:
1 its likely to come on tmo carrier devices sold at subsidy or through tmo, and unlikely to come on play store devices.
2 It is possible that the Nexus 4 will not have wifi calling support at all.
Either way I wouldnt expect wifi calling out of the box with a play store device.
This is not something that can be modded. The galaxy nexus still has no wifi calling support.
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True, but if they add it to the models sold via Tmo it might be easy to port into roms for the Play Store variety as well.
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There isn't a T-Mobile version - it's the same phone as the Play Store one apparently
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There isn't a T-Mobile version - it's the same phone as the Play Store one apparently
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chat support told me yesterday that the one from the tmobile store would have wifi calling.
%Leonil C: Yes. It doesn't really matter if its sold through Google. Wi-Fi calling is a phone feature and its not really T-mobile network that you will use if you call through Wi-Fi. Don't worry I assure you that.
rob layton: yes, but the phone has to be able to do the wifi calling through the software. I don't want to use a third party app, I want the true tmobile wifi calling that people tell me works very well as the signal is not great in the house.
%Leonil C: I understand. Wow seems that you really know alot about our products. Google Nexus 4 by LG will be sold by T-mobile on November 14. Because of that, we will put our personal touches on the phone just like what we do in our current phone models. Because of that, just like the S III's and Galaxy Note II's, it will have the T-mobile branded Wi-fi calling application.
%Leonil C: You can check out the phones on its release date on November 14. You will see the specs and features online at www.t-mobile.com.
rob layton: oh okay, so it woudl have to be bought straight from tmobile and not from google then?
%Leonil C: Yes that's right.
robl45 said:
chat support told me yesterday that the one from the tmobile store would have wifi calling.
%Leonil C: Yes. It doesn't really matter if its sold through Google. Wi-Fi calling is a phone feature and its not really T-mobile network that you will use if you call through Wi-Fi. Don't worry I assure you that.
rob layton: yes, but the phone has to be able to do the wifi calling through the software. I don't want to use a third party app, I want the true tmobile wifi calling that people tell me works very well as the signal is not great in the house.
%Leonil C: I understand. Wow seems that you really know alot about our products. Google Nexus 4 by LG will be sold by T-mobile on November 14. Because of that, we will put our personal touches on the phone just like what we do in our current phone models. Because of that, just like the S III's and Galaxy Note II's, it will have the T-mobile branded Wi-fi calling application.
%Leonil C: You can check out the phones on its release date on November 14. You will see the specs and features online at www.t-mobile.com.
rob layton: oh okay, so it woudl have to be bought straight from tmobile and not from google then?
%Leonil C: Yes that's right.
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We'll find out in two weeks, but I'd bet a lot of money that that person is wrong.
while not definitive, it looks like the TMO Rep was a little misleading. And here i thought this was going to be my next phone.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
well that probably ends it for me, I was thinking since the phone is so cheap, I could probably just pay a little more for unlimited minutes but then there is still the issue of getting reception in the house.
Thanks for all the replies everyone. I can only hope that it does have it. I realy enjoy being able to rely on my internet rather than mobile service. Where I live I can only get 1 or two bars of service, so you can imagine that without wifi calling I cant even order a pizza. Ironly of it is that I live on a road named Tower Rd. due to the fact there are several cell towers built on the top of a mountain, and yet I still get no service.
Sorry dude but more than likely he's right ... T-Mobile WiFi Calling its not just an app, it needs a combination of Kernel and Radio protocols that WOULD require T-Mobile to have to re-write some of the software in it (witch I think they should since they are probably gonna have higher prices on the device any way ) but it really seems that google made a push for untouched software all across the Nexus 4 line
Why not use a third party app for wifi calling I use it on my GNote10.1 and it works quite well?
I think s.b. on G+ said T-Mobile had contributed stuff for Wi-Fi calling to AOSP; but I never checked the validity of his statement.
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Use Google voice and groove IP. Best WiFi calling.
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84
Wasnt nexus s sold by tmo? Was there wifi calling for it available pre baked or via app store?
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Spidey01 said:
I think s.b. on G+ said T-Mobile had contributed stuff for Wi-Fi calling to AOSP; but I never checked the validity of his statement.
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Really ??? Where did you see that ? We could definitely use that as a start to build our own !
With a combination of csipsimple app, free sipgate.com account, and google voice, you can do free wifi calling both send and receive from any android, doesn't even need to be activated. I have an old and slow htc hero I keep around as a spare that even works decently for wifi calling. I'm not going to write a guide on how to do this, but plenty of others already have.
No wifi calling. Its official.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/31/t-mobile-says-its-nexus-4-wont-provide-wifi-calling/
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_guzzler_ said:
No wifi calling. Its official.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/31/t-mobile-says-its-nexus-4-wont-provide-wifi-calling/
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Thanks ! Now I'll make sure to set my https://ifttt.com/ and my http://www.google.com/alerts to notify me the soonest it goes on sale and buy it from the google store
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Sorry dude but more than likely he's right ... T-Mobile WiFi Calling its not just an app, it needs a combination of Kernel and Radio protocols that WOULD require T-Mobile to have to re-write some of the software in it (witch I think they should since they are probably gonna have higher prices on the device any way ) but it really seems that google made a push for untouched software all across the Nexus 4 line
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It is all basically software. Just take a look at the HTC HD2 with Android, a WinMo phone that has Android T-Mobile wifi calling thanks to XDA developers. Perhaps the libs/apks from other phones can just be copied over and it would work.
Some are saying they cannot use data while on a voice call, yet some claim they can. The official VZW response is supposedly that it won't happen until the Advanced Calling 1.0 update "by the end of the year".
Would those of you with one in hand please confirm if this is different depending on which network type you are on. i.e. 3G, 4G LTE, or 4G XLTE?
I was ready to pick one up until I saw this since this is a very important ability for me. It's like it is 2008 all over. I'm pretty shocked they would release a device "temporarily" with less ability than the previous generation.
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No you can not
We'll have to wait just like the Moto X.
The Sony Z3v also can not do Simultaneous Voice+Data .
I wonder if the Nexus 6 will also have this issue?
Is this just 3G and data? I'm not understanding why u can't use 4G and talk at the same time.
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Is this just 3G and data? I'm not understanding why u can't use 4G and talk at the same time.
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From what I've read, the Moto X (2014) and the Droid Turbo share the antenna for the 3G and 4G radios opposed to previous generations to cut production costs. Older phones would use 3G to talk and 4G was used for data I believe. If you set an older 4G phone to LTE only, you couldn't make a phone call, but could surf the net. Until they update the software that administers VoLTE to handle data at the same time, we are stuck back in 2010.
You can't talk and use data at the same time, unless you are in a VoLTE market.
Ugh. My OG Moto X can do this. Think I'll just wait to get this until the VoLTE update.
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Wow...that is terrible. How do you launch a phone in Oct 2014 without a key function from 3 years ago???
So this mean I won't be able to use my navigation (Google maps / Waze) while talking on the phone?
Actually you can use voice and data at the same time... When using an AT&T sim card
It is only on 3G but will do voice and data. Until VoLTE for VZW this just won't happen.
Just to confirm. Few phones can do EVDO and 1XRTT Voice simultaneously (Rezound, Thunderbolt, S3(I think)), but every Verizon 4G phone to date that I am aware of can use LTE and 1XRTT simultaneously. It would be ridiculous to drop LTE when making a phone call!
Please tell me this thing can use LTE on a phone call.
No. There is no simultaneous voice+data. Unless you're connected to an active WiFi.
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Just to confirm. Few phones can do EVDO and 1XRTT Voice simultaneously (Rezound, Thunderbolt, S3(I think)), but every Verizon 4G phone to date that I am aware of can use LTE and 1XRTT simultaneously. It would be ridiculous to drop LTE when making a phone call!
Please tell me this thing can use LTE on a phone call.
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Nope. When on LTE, I made a phone call and the data went to grayed out 1x.
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You can't talk and use data at the same time, unless you are in a VoLTE market.
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Isn't it where both phones need to be Verizon VOLTE enabled and both parties need to be in Verizon VOLTE markets?
So lets say when the Droid Turbo gets VOLTE... can I talk & surf at the same time while calling my sister who is on AT&T? Or am I screwed unless she gets on Verizon and her area allows VOLTE?
I find this hard to believe.
Does this impact users outside US (and hence not on VZ network)?
I'm going to shoot myself. I cant believe I didnt check on this before ordering. Every phone I've had in the last few years starting with my old Thunderbolt could do simultanious voice/data using the different bands. I thought the issue was basically limited iphones.
They better enable the VoLTE and fast. I cant go too long without it. May have to return the phone and re-order once its been enabled. Its too important a feature for my daily business needs.
Yeah this is a key feature where I'm like WTF. Im gonna hold off for a bit and see what happens and pray the Nexus 6 won't be like this since its a phone that is designed to run on all carriers.
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Yeah this is a key feature where I'm like WTF. Im gonna hold off for a bit and see what happens and pray the Nexus 6 won't be like this since its a phone that is designed to run on all carriers.
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If the Moto X and DROID Turbo are like this, I bet the Nexus 6 will be as well, they are all very similar.
Well i was thinking that to but being that the nexus is a one device for all carriers unlike moto x and turbo i wondered if that antenna would be made the same.
Stolen from the comments on a long Droid Life thread about this exact thing:
Moto X 2nd Gen does not do voice/data. Z3v does not. Droid Turbo does not.
These can do LTE data and voice: DNA, Moto X (2013), S4, G2, One M8, S5, G3, Note 4. (and most other phones pre August 2014.)
Nexus 6: Don't know yet but not looking great.
Once VoLTE is enabled, how does it work? Will I be able to get voice and data with anyone as long as I am on LTE? Will it be limited to only other Verizon customers who also have VoLTE enabled? if it is the later, I need to convince a manger to let me return this phone, ie, it was a mistake to switch from the Note 4 if true.
Is there a way to utilize this feature on our Nexus 6P now? I have really bad reception in my house and would love to receive and make calls in Wi-Fi.
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I saw this today also. Hopefully someone will figure out a way for us to implement this feature.
Was wondering how this will get activated on our 6P's
I am also wondering the same thing. Voice over LTE works great on my 6P using Verizon's network, so hopefully WiFi calling can be made to work as well. I suspect that there are no technical limitations that prevent it from working. However, since Verizon still doesn't officially support the Nexus 6P, they obviously aren't going to mention anything concerning the functionality of WiFi calling when they flip the switch on the 8th. Since my father uses a Galaxy S6, I'm going to ask him if his phone receives a software update tomorrow, hopefully giving us an indication if the change to enable WiFi calling is only on the network side, or if the handset needs new software as well to enable the feature.
I need it bad!!! No signal in the gym and I'm there for almost 2 hours everyday. I checked my wife's and my employees devices, none of them have seen an update yet.
I hope we get it!!!
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lahma69 said:
I am also wondering the same thing. Voice over LTE works great on my 6P using Verizon's network, so hopefully WiFi calling can be made to work as well. I suspect that there are no technical limitations that prevent it from working. However, since Verizon still doesn't officially support the Nexus 6P, they obviously aren't going to mention anything concerning the functionality of WiFi calling when they flip the switch on the 8th. Since my father uses a Galaxy S6, I'm going to ask him if his phone receives a software update tomorrow, hopefully giving us an indication if the change to enable WiFi calling is only on the network side, or if the handset needs new software as well to enable the feature.
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It's a software update that enables it. You then have to go enable it in the same menu as hd calling. When you turn it on you set a home adress for 911 purposes and then it activates the service. I think once you have done that on your line you can use it just like hd calling. Maybe I'm wrong though.
My wife's S6 just updated to include WiFi calling. Damn I want it on the 6P...lol
I really want this on Nexus 6P too. Any hope yet?
Has anyone tried getting Wifi calling for T-Mobile to work? It stinks that my Nexus 6 (which I bought via Verizon) works just fine with wifi calling for T-Mobile after I switched, yet so far, the G4 (also Motorola) doesn't seem to work.
As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.
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As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.
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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?
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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?
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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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I second that, Great reception AND it has the 700 mhz band for new T-Mobile LTE.
Some stuff about t-mobile 700mhz LTE band devices: http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Some more here about VoLTE and WiFi calling: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...day_anybody_able_to_confirm/d59x5ed?context=2
Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.
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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.
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A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.
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Yeah, I've thought about doing that, but I want to be able to get calls from the number everyone has for me seamlessly without having to give out a second number. It works flawlessly on my 2013 iphone 5s (which is barely hanging in there after taking a drink in the neighbor's pool and getting a subsequent rice bath) and I just want it to work on a 2016 Android phone.
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Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.
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Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.
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Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.
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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?
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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?
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Android can do it fine, the Nexus 5X and 6P can do TMO WiFi Calling, guess Moto just doesn't want to bother with it.
Many retail mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling
I have looked thru thread after thread for days and cannot seem to enable WiFi calling on my OnePlus 5 on the AT&T network, Does anyone have a clue?
I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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MrWilsonxD said:
Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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Le Pro3 is the only device that is BYOD and works on AT&T I believe.
Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Yeah, or any of their mvno's!
I was with family today in Anaheim, a highly populated, very modern city I mean Disneyland is there.
My dad has AT&T, I have mint sim (a t mobile mvno) I had near 70-80db signal, he was bouncing between 120 and up.. Had no signal whatsoever for extended periods of time. And with their low band frequency purchase, it's only getting better. It's anecdotal evidence, but still..
While I don't think t mobile offers the best network, I strongly feel they are going to get there in a couple years should they keep this up..
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I'm wondering about WiFi texting can the oneplus 5 do it? Also I noticed when in connected to WiFi I can't send any texts.
Att does not allow the 1+5, albeight the technology is there, to do VoWifi or VoLte. They reserve those features for devices solely purchased from Att, ie Only branded devices. If the Le eco does work it out of the box, that's awesome. Don't tell Att that, lol. I got into a huge argument with Att NatCs and filed troubleshooting tickets only to be told, sorry, since it wasn't purchased directly, no work. I have since made the move to TMobile. Im in NJ as a reference. And to be honest, I find the voice quality vastly better to what I had with Att, with hd voice too. I've hit some spots with little to no coverage, usually at a friend's house but my VoWifi kicks in and I have service once again with no issues.
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.wifi.calling
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Interesting app. But I'm not sure it works.
I install it, on my un-rooted OnePlus 5, then run it - hey! there's a convincing looking setting, for wifi - and so I activate it. But everytime I return to the app, the setting is 'off' again. Does that mean the setting doesn't 'stick' and my phone (running on AT&T) cannot actually use wifi?
Plus, it looks to me as though the app has to remain running (although there's a setting to not display the notification icon, it doesn't seem to 'stick' either).
Ultimately, I cannot seem to get my phone to actually make a wifi call. For this reason, I'm skeptical this app is able to enable wifi calling, on the AT&T network.
I just called ATT.
I want to upgrade to the 5 and i need it to call over wifi as most of the time i'm in a rural situation with no coverage.
The ATT tech support said there would be no problem.
I hate to say it, but they lied (unless there's been a drastic change as-of-late).
Even if you can get them to provision your 5T, it'll only "stick" for a minute or so, and then revert.
AT&T is somewhat "famous" for their lack of BYOD (non-branded) WiFi call/text support. The exception is iOS devices, and a couple of "certified" Android phones; I think the HTC 10 (or maybe it was the 9) was an example, you can probably count these on one hand.
I call At&T today. No changes so far.
AT&T has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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at&t has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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BOO... At&t... BOO!