Since some people seem to think Nexus 5x is overpriced/underspec'ed and think that the Moto x play or style are more viable options, what are some of your reasons for getting one or the other?
I personally pre-ordered the Nexus 5x but am reconsidering because the Moto X play is similarly sized but with a bigger screen, expandable storage (32 gb may not be enough or pushing is close), and way bigger battery.
Let me and the rest of the community know your for and against for each.
For Nexus 5X: Finger print scanner. Guaranteed updates for a long time - unlike moto X 2014 on at&t (not getting 6.0) - which for me is a huge deal and causes me to distrust Motorola. Smaller form factor. Better camera in low light (I'm hoping, but it sounds like it will be).
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For Nexus 5X: Finger print scanner. Guaranteed updates for a long time - unlike moto X 2014 on at&t (not getting 6.0) - which for me is a huge deal and causes me to distrust Motorola. Smaller form factor. Better camera in low light (I'm hoping, but it sounds like it will be).
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Verizon Moto X isn't getting it either. Even the Moto E was axed. That's really bad that phones only a year old is not going to get the update. Like you, I really lost respect for Moto
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Guaranteed updates with 5x and is of now no development on the moto
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Verizon Moto X isn't getting it either. Even the Moto E was axed. That's really bad that phones only a year old is not going to get the update. Like you, I really lost respect for Moto
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Moto E was just released this year, and its not getting 6.0. That's real sad, for me its a no brainer to go the Nexus route.
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For Nexus 5X: Finger print scanner. Guaranteed updates for a long time - unlike moto X 2014 on at&t (not getting 6.0) - which for me is a huge deal and causes me to distrust Motorola. Smaller form factor. Better camera in low light (I'm hoping, but it sounds like it will be).
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Thats interesting I didn't notice that Moto left out the Moto x 2014 from the update list. Maybe it will be added later? Or did they explicitly say it will be left out? Also the Moto X play was the intriguing phone for me since it's practically the same size (within 3 mm in all dimensions). But way bigger battery, storage and screen (bittersweet, may be too big).
Nexus 5x for me has better screen size but still bigger footprint than size suggests. Also 32 gb may be too little especially with increasing app size. Updates are key to me.
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Thats interesting I didn't notice that Moto left out the Moto x 2014 from the update list. Maybe it will be added later? Or did they explicitly say it will be left out? Also the Moto X play was the intriguing phone for me since it's practically the same size (within 3 mm in all dimensions). But way bigger battery, storage and screen (bittersweet, may be too big).
Nexus 5x for me has better screen size but still bigger footprint than size suggests. Also 32 gb may be too little especially with increasing app size. Updates are key to me.
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If timely updates are key to you, then the Nexus, all the way.
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Thats interesting I didn't notice that Moto left out the Moto x 2014 from the update list. Maybe it will be added later? Or did they explicitly say it will be left out? Also the Moto X play was the intriguing phone for me since it's practically the same size (within 3 mm in all dimensions). But way bigger battery, storage and screen (bittersweet, may be too big).
Nexus 5x for me has better screen size but still bigger footprint than size suggests. Also 32 gb may be too little especially with increasing app size. Updates are key to me.
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The 2014 pure is getting the update but not any of the carrier ones.
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Verizon Moto X 2014 user here. Just submitted my 5X order. Done with Motorola after this recent experience.
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The 2014 pure is getting the update but not any of the carrier ones.
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Yeah people that bought the carrier moto X should have seen that coming. The moto X pure was released for a reason. The carrier version was for people on a budget that wanted a decent performing smartphone and didn't care about rooting or Android version numbers
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Moto X is too big. The Nexus 5 is too big as well but it is closer to a phone than a phablet.
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Moto X is too big. The Nexus 5 is too big as well but it is closer to a phone than a phablet.
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Actually if you look at the spec list and even the phone arena size compare tool with overlap you will notice that the Moto X play is only very very close to the footprint of the 5x but with a bigger screen and its thicker but has micro sd slot. Only thing that doesnt seem great is the performance which is hit or miss for some. It even has CMod.
Also I pre ordered the 5x as well so I'm not here to sing praise but I noticed the X play and wanted to get people's opinions.
TL;DR - I'm returning the Moto X Pure (for now) in order to give the Nexus 5X a shot.
Here's my opinion on 5X vs Moto X (2015 Pure in my case).
I'll start off saying that I've become incredibly picky with finding the perfect phone for me, or at least close enough. There's no such thing as the perfect phone for everyone.
My general requirements (desires) are:
Decent processor/storage/battery/camera. Top notch specs aren't required.
Rooted and unlocked bootloader or the ability to flash custom roms if not fully unlocked
Stock or close to stock android or CM12.x
Compatible with Verizon (still have unlimited and not giving it up)
I'm coming from an LG G2 (Verizon VS980) which I ran from 11/2014 until 09/2015. It was rooted and running CM12/12.1 or a variant. It ran great, few complaints other than battery life (a little over 3hr SOT max, often less). 32gb was never an issue for my usage and I don't do any gaming so top spec'd processor doesn't really matter as long as normal OS navigation is smooth and fast.
I preordered the G4, but the lack of development and having to run LG's skin turned me away. I also had issues with missed touches and some strange screen glitching that appeared to be related to defective HW. I returned this and went back to the G2.
I thought the Moto X Pure (2015) would be perfect. It has a good processor, battery and camera. The fast charging is fantastic and gets me from 20ish% to full on my 45+ min commute using a QC 2.0 Anker car charger. I love the weight and the feel of the device, feels premium to me. But it's a bit too large even though I have large hands and can grip fully around the device without issue. 5.2-5.5 is the sweet spot for me. I've been experiencing a lot of lag, and honestly the G2 feels a lot faster. I didn't expect to have lag with the Moto X especially since it's mostly stock Android. I also haven't had good battery life even being rooted, unlocked and running greenify along with some other wakelock-reducing tweaks (wifi, BT, location are always on and I don't turn off syncing of anything in my google account). Phone is off the charger daily around 5-5:30am and while I have the ability to charge at work and to/from work, if I don't, I get around 18hrs off the charger and MAX of 3hrs SOT. Maybe that's good, but it just doesn't seem to cut it for me.
I'm going with the 5X in hopes that the size will feel better, the 1080p won't draw as much power so the downsizing from 3000 to 2700mah will be a moot point. I think the camera will live up to my expectations. I'm into photography and have a Canon 6D along with some nice L glass that I pull out when I need a good photo. Since I don't do any gaming or run apps that really hog any memory, I don't expect the 2gb RAM to be an issue (it was fine on the G2).
I should know soon enough if the 5X will be the right phone for me. I'm optimistic, but if it's not, then I'll be able to compare to the Moto X Pure and decide to keep the 5X or to repurchase the Moto X Pure. They're the only 2 phones on the market that seem to meet my criteria.
My apologies for the long-winded reply, but hopefully this will help someone else.
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Actually if you look at the spec list and even the phone arena size compare tool with overlap you will notice that the Moto X play is only very very close to the footprint of the 5x but with a bigger screen and its thicker but has micro sd slot. Only thing that doesnt seem great is the performance which is hit or miss for some. It even has CMod.
Also I pre ordered the 5x as well so I'm not here to sing praise but I noticed the X play and wanted to get people's opinions.
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I'm on of those who had a bad experience with the Moto X Play. Some tell me theirs has no lag at all, mine lags for the most simple tasks. Swiping down the quick toggles while inside Google Play Music is the worst. I can't recommend it.
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I'm on of those who had a bad experience with the Moto X Play. Some tell me theirs has no lag at all, mine lags for the most simple tasks. Swiping down the quick toggles while inside Google Play Music is the worst. I can't recommend it.
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On my 2nd gen X (att... Not pure) I had a lot of those issues. Notifications and recent are by far the worst. Actually caused me to sell it and go back to N5
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TL;DR - I'm returning the Moto X Pure (for now) in order to give the Nexus 5X a shot.
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agree 100% what you said in the long post. Our priorities and values are in line. But I am coming from a moto x dev
I'm having the same difficulty deciding as well. I think performance will be mostly equal as will battery. I never cared about a finger print scanner, and the updates will be not that far away from each other (i'm confident moto will have it by month's end, which might beat some peoples Nexus 5x/6p shipments). The biggest thing here for me will be the moto add ons like moto voice, turbopower charger and front speakers compared to the Nexus 5x's smaller yet preferred size and most likely better camera.
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unlike moto X 2014 on at&t (not getting 6.0) - which for me is a huge deal and causes me to distrust Motorola.
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Like you, I really lost respect for Moto
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OK first of all those are CARRIER decisions that Moto has nothing to do with. Which is why the are releasing it for the Pure Editions (which they control). Blaming moto isn't fair, blame your carriers.
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First the Nexus 5 was my favorite phone of all time. I still miss it. BUT it obviously had some shortcomings. Battery life wasn't one of it's strong points and even though 6.0 will be more efficient I'm going to be in the camp that if you were not happy with 18hrs/3hr SOT then you won't be happy with the 5X battery time is my guess. I'm really torn myself, I think I'm going to skip over this round and wait until the 820 SoC phones come out.
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OK first of all those are CARRIER decisions that Moto has nothing to do with. Which is why the are releasing it for the Pure Editions (which they control). Blaming moto isn't fair, blame your carriers.
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Why should I blame the carriers when I had the Pure? They were slow after 5.0 and that's a problem
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Alot of those Moto perks were likely determined/designed while Google still owned Moto. Now that they dont, I'd be very wary of them keeping it up down the line past a year. Of course, most of you will have a new phone by then anyways.
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Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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Thanks for the review. I'm surprised about the screen being so good when it's nearly 30% less in PPI. Running so well on low specs is moto's specialty so that doesn't surprise me, neither the poor camera.
I still think the moto g is a better deal, especially when I got my 16gb version fro. Tesco for just over £100
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Not as surprised as I was, I was expecting a grainy narrow angle screen, like on the low-end samsungs. Complete opposite. I would probably agree with you about the Moto G though, that's still a bargain of the year considering it's specs.
I think the E will be aimed towards people that don't really want to spend a lot, don't really care about super-dooper specs, and just want a phone that works well.
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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I have a little concern for the CPU. So no lag, no problem ?
I'm coming from Xperia U and i would not have lags
I can honestly say that I am yet to experience any lag through everyday use. Just because it's dual core doesn't mean it's going to be equivalent to other dual core phones (ehem Samsung).
wish the camera had Autofocus too
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Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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Got mine today and I am very impressed with it. Awesome phone and does look like premium device as compared to micromax.
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Ankush menat said:
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd
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moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd
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Don't think that's coming to India.:what:
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nice review but i have a few questions
sikodemon said:
Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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Thanks for this that's cool. Wonder if this phone will get rooted and some cyanogenmod etc ported would be cool
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?
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wish the camera had Autofocus too
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It does have auto focus.
I got my Moto G yesterday (XT1022, Indian version) and I paired it up with a 32 GB memory card that arrived today.
A few points.
The screen is pretty sharp. It's not the best but it's a HUGE step up from the Samsung Galaxy Y, HTC explorer and the Galaxy Ace and even the Sony Xperia M that I have plenty of experience with in this price range. It doesn't match up with the G though. But then again, I can always tell the difference between my N5 and N7. So, yeah...
2. No USB cable is a bummer. I have 2 more lying about and I transfer data over WiFi or cloud though and it's not really a problem for me but is it really that much more expensive to give a charger and cable separately?
3. I don't really care about benchmarks. If you've seen enough, they stop making sense and I've stopped caring about anything other than pure graphics benchmarks. But anyway, general performance is good, especially on ART. However you hit it's limits pretty fast and it is a good bit slower in general - even simple stuff like hitting a settings option gives makes the phone hesitate a tiny bit longer. But then, I can spot those on an N5. It's either equal to or slightly worse than the Moto G and people tell me don't see it at all. YMMV. I haven't this phone around
. so I can't really comment about the E just yet.
4. Touch response is good. None of the annoying stuff you see on most low end phones.
5. No freezes or hiccups so far. Software seems solid
6. Loudspeaker is LOUD. Try the pyxis ringtone to get all that loudness out
7. Both sim slots support 3G, but you might have to change this setting in dial sim setup
8. The headset provided is Meh. The Sony Xperia M headset is still SO much better. And the microphone appears to work in the E.
Those are all the things off the top off my head. Let me know of you guys have any questions.
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Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?
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Tried Google camera. Panaroma not there but there is lens blur and HDR.
Panaroma is in stock moto cam so you can use that.
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Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
Don't have moto g so can't tell the difference. But as of now it seems phone can last a day on average usage.(Got it yestdy, its just my view).
Will report once I try dead trigger or dead effect.
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are you able to play large games like galaxy on fire 2 etc without lag
Played asphalt 8 without any issues. Like playing on moto e rather than my xperia ion.
Will report on other games as and when I try it.
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Antutu Benchmark Results
Here's the results from Antutu. Not bad considering it sits just below the S3.
As a comparison the Moto G resulted around ~17,200
So here's the story.
Yesterday I dropped, my beloved, motox and broke the screen. So I scrambled on kijjiji to find a used one. I only managed to find 2,one guy was asking 260 and another guy was asking 340.
I decided to check my carrier to see if I was eligible for an upgrade. I was with an early upgrade fee (125), I thought this was great. So I clicked to search for a motox but Rogers doesn't sell it anymore. So I had to settle for a nexus 5 ($0 on 2 year renewal).
I've been playing with it for 2 hours and I already miss my motox, I can't wait to sell this thing and get the new motox (motox+1).
Pros of the nexus 5 over a motox:
Not much. I really have to struggle to put something here.
-Okay no carrier name in the notification shade.
-Timely updates.
-Grippy back.
-Lighter
Cons:
Everything.
-I miss touchless control (I miss being able to say 'OK Google now' from anywhere and it would respond)
-I miss touchless notifications
-I miss twist to launch camera (I didn't think I'd use this feature as much as I did). Its so handy to grab the phone and twist it and the camera is ready to shoot.
-I miss being able to press anywhere on the viewfinder to take a picture.
-camera controls are crap
-placement of power and volume buttons are to high up on the phone
Motox did so many things right
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I just had the same exact thing happen to me.
My wife dropped my Moto X and cracked the screen, i then bought a 32gb Nexus 5 from EBay and I don't like it !.
The Touchless controls and active notifications are the things I miss the most.
I find the camera also to suck on the Nexus 5.
So a friend yesterday sent me this article.
I can't post the link as I'm a new user so I will private message it to you.
If your Moto X is still under warranty and you used the moto maker, you can request RMA and send back to Motorola.
Motorola will let you recreate a new moto x for free !
Once you receive your new free replacement you are obligated to send back your broken moto x within 10 days otherwise they will charge full price for the new handset.
The Article has all the details.
If you have any questions, just hit me up !
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Wannabekula, thanks for article I responded to the private message.
The motox should have sold better than the nexus5.
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I went from nexus 5 to moto x and while I am using more and more of the unique features such as touch less control (driving) and the camera hand twist, I will disagree with you that the moto x has the better camera. Camera and screen are where the nexus 5 have the advantage. My wife still has her nexus 5 her pictures of the same things we shoot come out on top more often than not. Mostly because of the OIS. Color accuracy is better on the n5 as well. Don't get me wrong, the moto x has definitely grown on me and touch less controls are becoming a MUST. If the moto x+1 can fix those few gripes I'll definitely stay in the moto family. oh and moto x on average gets better battery life than my n5.
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Damn I thought Moto X had a great build quality! I am scared to buy it now!
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I went from nexus 5 to moto x and while I am using more and more of the unique features such as touch less control (driving) and the camera hand twist, I will disagree with you that the moto x has the better camera. Camera and screen are where the nexus 5 have the advantage. My wife still has her nexus 5 her pictures of the same things we shoot come out on top more often than not. Mostly because of the OIS. Color accuracy is better on the n5 as well. Don't get me wrong, the moto x has definitely grown on me and touch less controls are becoming a MUST. If the moto x+1 can fix those few gripes I'll definitely stay in the moto family. oh and moto x on average gets better battery life than my n5.
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I never implied the picture quality on the motox is better, I was simply saying the camera controls are better in the motox. For example if you want to flip to front camera the control is right there on the viewfinder I don't have to go into a menu to do it. Same applies for taking a video it's right there.
Motorola really made the motox functional. If they had priced it right, it would have sold like crazy.
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Damn I thought Moto X had a great build quality! I am scared to buy it now!
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moto x is the best phone i ever had to date. and im not looking to replace it because its so good
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I never implied the picture quality on the motox is better, I was simply saying the camera controls are better in the motox. For example if you want to flip to front camera the control is right there on the viewfinder I don't have to go into a menu to do it. Same applies for taking a video it's right there.
Motorola really made the motox functional. If they had priced it right, it would have sold like crazy.
It does have a great build. You won't be disappointed. Get it.
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The camera part was more directed to the person who said the nexus 5 camera sucks. I do like most of the motox cameras features. I like that you don't pinch to zoom, you just swipe up or down and you can do burst mode by just holding down on the screen.
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After only only 8 hours with the nexus5 I've decided to return it. I can't deal with its shortcomings. Also it's got issues when streaming music over bluetooth, a lot of crackling, seems to be a common problem.
I'd rather have a broken (screen) motox than a new nexus5.
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
If they pull that again then it's highly likely I will be tempted by the Nexus 6 or Android Silver line (whichever actually happens) which, if history serves as a guide, will come out towards the end of the year.
Which would be a shame because I wouldn't mind swapping my Snapdragon 800/1080p/2GB RAM/32GB storage phone for one of the same specification soon - but there's no way I would do that next year, when Snapdragon 801 will have been superceded by 805, and pretty much every flagship is going to have 3GB RAM and QHD display by that time. That would just stick in my craw a bit too much.
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
If they pull that again then it's highly likely I will be tempted by the Nexus 6 or Android Silver line (whichever actually happens) which, if history serves as a guide, will come out towards the end of the year.
Which would be a shame because I wouldn't mind swapping my Snapdragon 800/1080p/2GB RAM/32GB storage phone for one of the same specification soon - but there's no way I would do that next year, when Snapdragon 801 will have been superceded by 805, and pretty much every flagship is going to have 3GB RAM and QHD display by that time. That would just stick in my craw a bit too much.
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If higher numbers specs that much, you really need to follow it...
... but, for everyone who had read about it, knows that its not just higher numbers, not even the "outdate" (just because its a dual-core). Simply enough, architecture, the Android necessarily need quad or octa? 3gb of ram? 2k?
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
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Setspeed Trust me man, it's not about the number of processor or anything if the hardware is optimised to the software specs mean nothing. Use the motox and you'll see what I mean.
Motorola did make a few mistakes marketing this phone though. Not selling world wide on initial release, pricing too high and not marketing enough. Because the motox offers all the benefits of vanilla android with the added features of touchless control and active display.
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Had an N5 from launch to replace my n4 from launch (and other nexus beforehand). Both are great, beautiful phones. Came to the moto x for the touchless features and the essentially stock 4.4.2. I love it. It is beautifully designed, maybe a little underpowered, but very well executed. The x8 chip set is excellent, but could probably do better with a slight improvement in the main cores. I've had a few issues, some regular force closes, but nothing that takes the shine off.
Long story short? I loved my n5... I sold it only because I love the features that moto x has... I didn't expect to buy a feature smartphone, but it's a freak in the smartphone category... Long live the moto x (+1?)
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Yeah I'm aware that the user experience is great on Moto devices - a friend just bought the Moto G and it's unbelievably good for the price. Unfortunately the X was too little too late by the time it came to the UK.
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We'll see if Motorola learned their lesson with the release of the motox+1. Because if they market well, release world wide and price it aggressive the new phone will sell like hotcakes.
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Setspeed Trust me man, it's not about the number of processor or anything if the hardware is optimised to the software specs mean nothing. Use the motox and you'll see what I mean.
Motorola did make a few mistakes marketing this phone though. Not selling world wide on initial release, pricing too high and not marketing enough. Because the motox offers all the benefits of vanilla android with the added features of touchless control and active display.
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I don't know when people will understand that really. I mean look at the sales, all the high specified phones are selling like hotcakes, and the Moto X, well nowhere near. God knows what people like in a highly spec'ed phone which runs like crap. The three devices I had were S4, Note 2, S2, and other than the S2 all of them are overpriced sh!t. Seriously. People call me crazy that I am thinking about getting the Moto X after owning the S4
It's like they are buying a computer, higher you go, more performance you get, like they will play Watch Dogs on it. However I utterly hate iPhone and iOS but there's some point why that bloody thing sells well.
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I don't know when people will understand that really. I mean look at the sales, all the high specified phones are selling like hotcakes, and the Moto X, well nowhere near. God knows what people like in a highly spec'ed phone which runs like crap. The three devices I had were S4, Note 2, S2, and other than the S2 all of them are overpriced sh!t. Seriously. People call me crazy that I am thinking about getting the Moto X after owning the S4
It's like they are buying a computer, higher you go, more performance you get, like they will play Watch Dogs on it. However I utterly hate iPhone and iOS but there's some point why that bloody thing sells well.
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I see what you're saying when it comes to Samsung, but not the Nexus - it performs better than any other Android phone because it's the highest specced stock software phone. I guarantee you that it's quicker and smoother than the Moto X, because of better hardware. If I could get the always listening touchless controls on my N5 then I wouldn't even be hanging around this forum sniffing about for X+1 news! But I can't, so here I am :laugh:
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After only only 8 hours with the nexus5 I've decided to return it. I can't deal with its shortcomings. Also it's got issues when streaming music over bluetooth, a lot of crackling, seems to be a common problem.
I'd rather have a broken (screen) motox than a new nexus5.
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Good decision my man!
You've just saved yourself from dealing with a load of issues by returning the N5!
I've come from the N5 to my Moto X and haven't looked back seriously.
I had so many issues with the N5 that I got Google to send me 11 replacements (YES ELEVEN REPLACEMENTS!!!) and in the end Google decided it wasn't the phone for me and gave me a full refund.
My issues experienced:
-Extremely poor call quality where the person on the other end can hardly hear you and you always have to shout to be heard
-Noise cancellation broken/faulty (looks like a hardware issue)
-Poor build quality as I kept getting dead pixels on 3 of the handsets
-Speaker volume very very low compared to the Moto X
-SIM card tray never used to sit flush with the body on quite a few of the models
-Bluetooth streaming issues
The main issue for me was the fact that I couldn't make phone calls properly. I loved the vanilla experience but I still get that with my Moto X.
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Pros of the nexus 5 over a motox:
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The Moto X is the same weight as the N5 although the Moto X feels slightly chunkier in the hand.
Wutang200 said:
Good decision my man!
You've just saved yourself from dealing with a load of issues by returning the N5!
I've come from the N5 to my Moto X and haven't looked back seriously.
I had so many issues with the N5 that I got Google to send me 11 replacements (YES ELEVEN REPLACEMENTS!!!) and in the end Google decided it wasn't the phone for me and gave me a full refund.
My issues experienced:
-Extremely poor call quality where the person on the other end can hardly hear you and you always have to shout to be heard
-Noise cancellation broken/faulty (looks like a hardware issue)
-Poor build quality as I kept getting dead pixels on 3 of the handsets
-Speaker volume very very low compared to the Moto X
-SIM card tray never used to sit flush with the body on quite a few of the models
-Bluetooth streaming issues
The main issue for me was the fact that I couldn't make phone calls properly. I loved the vanilla experience but I still get that with my Moto X.
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Wow that's got to be some kind of record, for a person to receive ELEVEN faulty handsets in a row...
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Do you guys think there'll be a surge of orders from Nexus users who don't want to upgrade to a phone as big as the Nexus 6?
The new Moto X is the closest to a Nexus phone now (not phablet).
I think it's more likely that they stick with the Nexus 5 and pray Google comes back down to earth next year. I can't imagine that releasing a 5.9" phone as your one and only is going to pay off.
Yeah, I think the Moto X might pick of a few Nexus users (myself included) if the next Nexus device really only offers a 6" screen. But I suspect the reasons people want a Nexus device go deeper than that. The 1st Gen. Moto X got almost no development. If you want the roms and the hacks and all that, nothing is like the Nexus (and the Moto X is far from 2nd runner up, in terms of amount of development). So the near stock rom on the Moto X is a bit of a mirage. I'm still not sure I'm ready to make the jump and lose out on the development options (as well as the increased control and potential privacy offered by something like Cyanogen, over any manufacturer maintained rom).
Also the price on the Nexus has always been at least $100 lower than what a Moto X goes for. That's going to be a big deciding factor. Nothing talks like money.
But for people who aren't into the roms and just like the stock Android experience and don't care about price so much, maybe some of them will jump ship from the Nexus.
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Literally everything is pointing to a 5.9" screen. No one is even acknowledging that a 5.2" device is even in the works any more. More likely the 5.2" phone everyone was talking about was the Droid Turbo.
Are the Nexus 5 and Moto X using the same size sim?
EDIT: Nope. Curses.
Yea cause I'm most likely one of them. I think the better speakers is what I want most. Weak speakers is the only thing I don't like about the Nexus
I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I was a Nexus 4 user, and why I got the Moto X is because my n4 was dying on me. Also, it's a nice phone, and the added hardware and software tweaks is worth enough for the price imo. I just want a clean stock experience, and that is why I like both the Nexus and Moto X
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Nexus user here - owned every Nexus phone since the original. I've picked up a Moto X simply because this year's Nexus is too large. But I agree with the analysis here - the X is a good substitute, but it isn't quite the same thing and I hope we won't see any negatives from that. If we don't get L pronto I will be complaining all over Twitter :crying:
I bought the nexus 5 first and the moto x after but sold my nexus 5 and used the moto x exclusively. My wife got a new iphone so now i'm using her nexus 5.
Things i like since moving to the Nexus 5
larger crisper screen.
snappier performance (very noticable) whether in games, browsing, and using google now voice commands, everything just comes quicker and faster.
willingness to take more pictures because it has a better camera
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
Touchless controls. I can't wake my phone from sleep. I don't use it much but when I want to I can't with the N5
--mics Moto's mics are awesome. I don't have to raise my voice like I do with the N5 when using the OK google command.
* on the N5 i have the google voice detection turned on for all screens and it drains the battery a little more. When plugged in, i leave the screen on so I have somewhat of touchless control.
Speaker - The moto's speaker is super loud compared to the N5.
Moto Assist - I use "AGENT" for the N5 but it's just not the same. The text reading and replying is very similar but with the Moto's mics the experience is better on the moto, but agent works very well as an alternative. Incoming calls aren't read out loud to you in Agent but they are in Moto Assist. AGENT relies on connecting to a trusted device in order for drive mode to come on while moto assist is able to detect when you're driving even w/o connecting to the trusted bluetooth device.
Battery life - i consistently get an hour more of SOT time with the moto over the N5 with just about the exact same type of usage.
There are a few other quirks between the two but these are the major ones for me.
The Moto X 2014 seems to blend both of these phones together and that's why I'm really wanting it, despite the battery life complaints. If it's equal to or greater to the moto x 2013 I'll probably get it. ESPECIALLY if the moto nexus doesn't have the moto tweaks. I doubt it does but i'm holding onto that small sliver of hope it does. These moto enhancements are very very very usual and i wish Google would bake these into Android but then Moto wouldn't be as unique any longer.
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Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
My take on it is that Motorola provides the nearest to Nexus experience (aside from GPE editions), with some extras in the sensors/software. The new Moto X is of the same hardware generation as the Nexus 5, so I think most will stick with the 5 unless they want a larger phone, and those will go to the 6 (which is about 1/2 generation newer if we believe the Snapdragon 805 [I almost called it a dragonball - now that will show my age in the mobile chip world] rumor). The phone jumpers will end up trying both the X and the 6, and may end up back at the 5.
I've been scratching my head between a Nexus 5 and Moto X to replace my work-supplied blackberry (company started to support Android in August) and think I am about to pull the trigger on the X. I thought about the M8 GPE, but holding both the new X and the M8 yesterday, the X definitely won out in-hand.
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
I have an N5, OPO and Moto X 2014. The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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Also, the battery drain will be a little bit more since the n5 screen is LCD. Having an active display like feature is made for amoled screens if you want to conserve battery
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I'm considering the Moto X but I am waiting to see if a root method (an prefereably an easy way to unlock the bootloader like the first gen Moto X) appears for the non-pure edition devices. If that doesn't happen by January, I may just have to rock a stupidly huge device. Being able to root and customize/backup/automate to my heart's desire is the most important feature of a phone to me. Second is stock Android and fast updates (so obviously the Moto X meets that).
For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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Even after the most recent GPU update lol I still own mine and play with it occasionally
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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I know. Almost 3yrs at this point. But what was I gonna do? We have unlimited data on our two phones, and get a nice discount through my wife's work. And she travels in places like Kentucky and West Virginia so the Verizon coverage is a big deal. If it was just me I would've switched to T-Mobile already. So, considering that....what could I do but keep the Galaxy Nexus? I couldn't stand Samsung's crapware etc, and nothing else interested me. The new X is the first thing that seems like a real option.
I hope it lives up to my expectations.
My wife is still rocking a Motorola Droid Razr. If you think the Galaxy Nexus struggles to function now you should try her phone....she gave up before me, and she still uses a Blackberry Curve for work.
Hey all
The Motorola Droid Turbo packs some truly eye-watering specs, with a 5.2" QHD display and a powerful Quad-Core processor running at 2.65 GHz, whats not to like?
Feel free to comment on the hardware or overall design feature of the Motorola Droid Turbo:good:
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Chipset - Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU - Quad-core 2.65 GHz Krait 450
GPU - Adreno 420
RAM - 3GB
Memory - 32GB
Camera - 21MP, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 2MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 3900 mAh
Dimensions - 143.5 x 73.3 x 8.3 - 11.2mm
Weight - 169g
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I'm concerned about the 32gb coupled with no sd slot. They're putting 4k video recording capability on there (great!) but it seems limited without adequate storage capacity. Not a big fan of cap buttons. I'm also unsure about the difference a quad hd display makes on a 5.2" screen and more importantly if it's worth the tradeoff in battery life.
Other than those things I'm loving this phone. I'm a big moto fan and can't wait to see it in stores.
it is sad that its not going to have ext sd. i wasted my money on a 64gb extreme SD. Well ill just put it in my nexus 9. Really hope the turbo goes to 64gb internal though. Specs sound awesome i just wish it had a K1 64 bit in there, im sure android 5.0 and the 805soc will be extremely fluid, i just dont want to get it then a month later here that devs are really unleashing the potential of 64bit socs. Most importantly for me is the long battery life and awesome camera. 21 mp sounds nice so hopefully it will take some amazing photos and be quick. OIS better be there too. My GS4 takes awesome photos in HDR i just wish it was snappier. Love the fact they went with 5.2 qhd, perfect moto! If they want this thing to sell out then they need at least a 5mp front facing and an awesome price point. Most importantly, dont you dare put all that bloat in there!
Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...
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why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...
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I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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My main concern is that nothing has yet mentioned optical image stabilization. At 21MP, this thing will likely pick up shake pretty easily.
Rest of it looks like a beast
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I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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Yeah and since Moto was just owned by Google, I would sure hope they get them out very rapidly lol.
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I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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the 2013 Moto Droids were basically the first phones on 4.4...the Droids run as close to stock android as you can get without being stock they get updated crazy fast...
It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.
Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)
Not a play version, but there have been Dev. editions with unlockable bootloaders.
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Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)
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The waterproof coating they use (assuming its the same as the 2013 moto x) is really good. Other than having to wait for your speaker to dry out to sound normal you could basically dunk it under water without concern. I didn't do it...but other people did
zathus said:
It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.
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I'm wondering this as well. What sources state that it will have an ips display?
The nexus 6 seems to have amoled, so it really only makes sense for Motorola to continue the trend and support their active display.
The only reason I wouldn't get this instead of the Nexus 6 is because I just can't have a locked bootloader and root that is virtually impossible to crack until it's too late ie. the Droid Ultra/Maxx and all devs have moved on to more developer friendly phones
If I'm right...don't they usually release/announce the Developer Verizon months later? Cause unless it'll be within a month of the initial release, I can't keep dealing with my GNex. I've run every ROM out there... and this thing needs to be euthanized
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So I was looking for the user manual for this thing. It's easy to find a ton of websites talking about the manual, and linking to it. You either get a dead link or to another article that shows a page or two. Didn't anyone download the entire manual where I can get it?
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I've had my turbo for about 5 months now. Bought it from a friend for 120 . orange ballistic nylon edition. I recently had the new phone bug bite me. So I started searching for a new device.. Note 5, nexus 6 and 6p, lg g4, lg v10, iPhone 6s ,s7 , been looking for something new.. Truth is last night I was on my way to buy s7 edge and turned around and went home . why should I ditch this turbo now?.. With cm13 I'm extremely happy at the performance and battery life. So no new phone for me for a while .. Anyone felt the same way?
I would consider leaving this phone for the moto nexus 6. And the only reason is for massive development. Other than that. No I would not trade it off.
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The Quark is almost perfect combination of size and specs. The only phone absolutely better right now would be the Samsung Galaxy S7, if you could unlock bootloader and fully root.
The 2014 6" Moto Nexus 6 was just too big. Even Google realized that and made the 2015 Nexus 6P smaller. But I don't want a phablet even 5.7". (I also want Qi wireless charging, which this year's Nexus phones do NOT have.)
And I want a top tier phone with 1440p and at least 3GB RAM. So, that leaves out the mid-tier Nexus 5X with 1080p and 2GB RAM. Google should realize we want a reasonable size phone (5.1" - 5.3") with TOP TIER SPECS. If Google made a Nexus phone like this:
current Snapdragon chipset
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display
at least 3GB RAM
at least 64GB internal memory
turbo charging
Qi wireless charging
large battery
stereo speakers
rear camera OIS
unlock-able bootloader, root
I would buy two or three of them. The Motorola Quark had enough of that wish list (see bolded) I bought THREE of them instead of the Nexus 6. Google's loss.
Yeah, the Quark no longer has current Snapdragon, but the Snapdragon 805 is still fast enough -- plus the other features I can't find all in one phone.
The only thing Motorola could have done better with the Quark is give us the rear camera OIS and stereo speakers the Moto Nexus 6 had. For the price they charged ($700 for the XT1225), I don't know why they left that off. I still bought two at that price, for me and my wife. I later bought a third XT1225 to have a backup, but the price had dropped to almost half by then.
If Motorola had remedied that shortcoming with Quark successor Kinzie (2015 Droid Turbo 2, Moto X Force), I would have upgraded to those phones. But they didn't.
This is the first phone I'm keeping for at least two full years. Amazing.
juggamonkey said:
I've had my turbo for about 5 months now. Bought it from a friend for 120 . orange ballistic nylon edition. I recently had the new phone bug bite me. So I started searching for a new device.. Note 5, nexus 6 and 6p, lg g4, lg v10, iPhone 6s ,s7 , been looking for something new.. Truth is last night I was on my way to buy s7 edge and turned around and went home . why should I ditch this turbo now?.. With cm13 I'm extremely happy at the performance and battery life. So no new phone for me for a while .. Anyone felt the same way?
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Have you had any cell connection issues with CM13? I had them with 12.1. Ended up having to use Verizon's repair tool to get cell service back.
mrkhigh said:
I would consider leaving this phone for the moto nexus 6. And the only reason is for massive development. Other than that. No I would not trade it off.
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I actually moved from the Nexus 6 to the Droid Turbo don't get me wrong I love the Nexus 6 but at the end of the day the turbo fits better in my hand even though I have large hands and could manage the nexus 6 but I still prefer the turbo size any day... and far as development goes really now a days all are pretty much the same with minor tweaks when I had my Nexus it seems like I was flashing a new ROM every 3 days but nothing really ever changed so I decided to stick with the pure Nexus ROM and that was really close to stock and after everything is said and done I just want something that I can tweak and works like cm13 for my turbo
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Have you had any cell connection issues with CM13? I had them with 12.1. Ended up having to use Verizon's repair tool to get cell service back.
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No service issue here everything has been stable except no volte which was expected
Unless skrilax keeps this device longer than the average user, my guess is the nexus six will far outlive our device. Don't get me wrong I like this size too but the reality is nexus in Dev life is typically > than others.
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I gave my wife my gray/orange ballistic nylon Turbo last fall and got a G3. I enjoyed that phone for a while but ended up getting another Turbo this time in black kevlar. Wish I could get my orange one back but the wifey isn't giving it up. Not sure what's next on my list, maybe the new HTC 10.
ChazzMatt said:
The Quark is almost perfect combination of size and specs. The only phone absolutely better right now would be the Samsung Galaxy S7, if you could unlock bootloader and fully root.
The 2014 6" Moto Nexus 6 was just too big. Even Google realized that and made the 2015 Nexus 6P smaller. But I don't want a phablet even 5.7". (I also want Qi wireless charging, which this year's Nexus phones do NOT have.)
And I want a top tier phone with 1440p and at least 3GB RAM. So, that leaves out the mid-tier Nexus 5X with 1080p and 2GB RAM. Google should realize we want a reasonable size phone (5.1" - 5.3") with TOP TIER SPECS. If Google made a Nexus phone like this:
current Snapdragon chipset
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display
at least 3GB RAM
at least 64GB internal memory
turbo charging
Qi wireless charging
stereo speakers
rear camera OIS
unlock-able bootloader, root
I would buy two or three of them. The Quark had enough of that list I bought THREE. Google's loss.
Yeah, the Quark no longer has current Snapdragon, but the 805 is still fast enough -- plus the other features I can't find all in one phone.
The only thing Motorola could have done better with the Quark is give us the rear camera OIS and stereo speakers the Moto Nexus 6 had. For the price they charged ($700 for the XT1225), I don't know why they left that off. I bought two at that price. I later bought a third XT1225 for backup purposes, but the price had dropped to almost half by then.
If Motorola had remedied that shortcoming with Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2, Moto X Force), I would have upgraded to those phones. But they didn't.
This is the first phone I'm keeping for at least two full years. Amazing.
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Your post is basically 100% in every facet and detail. EXACTLY how I feel
rajuabju said:
Your post is basically 100% in every facet and detail. EXACTLY how I feel
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One thing on the wish list, which I went back and added was "large" battery. When owning the gen3 Galaxy Nexus and gen5 Nexus 5, the one thing I HATED was the puny batteries Google put into those phones!
I find it hilarious the 5.2" Moto Quark has a BIGGER battery than the 6" Moto Nexus 6 (Shamu). 3900 mAh vs 3200 mAh. I appreciate Motorola put a large battery into this phone, whereas last year for the Samsung Galaxy S6 that manufacturer went SMALLER than the S5. It was a huge mistake, and for the S7 they increased the battery size. Consumers are NOT demanding smaller batteries!
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Most of you already know this, but posting again for newbies doing research:
There are basically two Motorola Quark devices (two different FCC IDs), sold under three model names: Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo, Moto Maxx. All have the same hardware, but different radios. The Motorola Quark was basically the Moto Nexus 6 (Shamu) in a 5.2" size. In fact, as late as mid-August 2014, Google/Motorola was testing a 5.2" Shamu variant. We saw the leaked benchmarks... But Google decided on the 6" whale, which was a mistake. I bought the Quark instead.
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5.2" Moto Maxx vs massive 5.96" Nexus 6
Motorola obviously re-purposed the 5.2" "Shamu" variant as the "Quark" -- Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx, changed the camera and gave it a BIGGER battery. Still, a lot of the hardware specs remains the same as the Nexus 6.
Same manufacturer (Motorola),
same CPU/GPU (Snapdragon 805),
same RAM (3GB),
same resolution (1440p),
same "turbo" charger
same Qi wireless charging.
Same 64GB internal storage as the 64GB version of the Nexus 6.
Bigger battery than the Nexus 6, even though a smaller phone!
We will soon get stock Marshmallow (in soak tests), but we already have custom ROM Marshmallow.[/size]
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Droid Turbo XT1254 (sold by U.S. carrier Verizon; 32/64GB internal memory)
U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers; 32GB internal memory)
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"international" Moto Maxx XT1225 (64GB internal memory)
Moto Turbo XT1225 (sold in India, but identical to Moto Maxx XT1225)
I live in the U.S. but have THREE "international" XT1225, as it has ALL the U.S. carrier AT&T LTE bands (2,4, 5, 17), plus all the Brazil LTE bands (3, 7) when I visit Brazil (my wife is Brazilian).[/FONT]
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I've enjoyed my Turbo so far. Bought a new 32 GB (they didn't list a 64 GB version) black ballistic nylon version in November, to replace my Droid RAZR M as my daily driver.
Five months in, I still haven't flashed CM to it, but I gladly paid for Sunshine and unlocked the bootloader a couple of weeks after the beta release. So I'm still sitting on stock Lollipop, rooted and with a tethering "bypass".
I continue to enjoy the phone, and using it side-by-side with my RAZR M (which is now a WiFi-only device that gets used primarily as a music player) really shows how much of a beast the Turbo is. The RAZR M still runs out of power after ~2 hours of SoT, while the Turbo is still kickin' with similar usage; and, of course, the Snapdragon 805 and 3GB of RAM absolutely beats the pants off of a Snapdragon S4 with 1 GB to its name.
My only regret about the phone is that I wish it had a microSD slot, so that I wouldn't need to rely on my RAZR M (or a better LTE plan) to carry around my music.
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I've been thinking about getting one of those memory dongles for the micro USB port. Just for music.
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Where is the marshmallow update for this phone
Jithukr said:
Where is the marshmallow update for this phone
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There's two Marshmallow custom ROMs for this phone, CM13 and Resurrection Remix.
If you mean stock Motorola Marshmallow, there was soak test in Brazil for the XT1225 Quark. Presumably it's still going on? But that's a LONG soak test. Or Lenovo/Motorola is waiting for Verizon to sign off on the XT1254 update before releasing Marshmallow for all Quarks.
ChazzMatt said:
There's two Marshmallow custom ROMs for this phone, CM13 and Resurrection Remix.
If you mean stock Motorola Marshmallow, there was soak test in Brazil for the XT1225 Quark. Presumably it's still going on? But that's a LONG soak test. Or Lenovo/Motorola is waiting for Verizon to sign off on the XT1254 update before releasing Marshmallow for all Quarks.
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thanks for the reply friend. Thing is i am waiting for the stock rom. since most of the mid range phones of motorola got the new update, i feel pity to use a beast like moto turbo with lollipop.
Only thing I'd trade in for would be the new HTC 10. Very, very attractive device and an unlockable bootloader!
My Droid Incredible and M7 were by far my best phones. Great design and even better developer support. Hell, I'd still be rocking my M7 if the cameras and battery life was just a bit better.
Still, I agree with all the above. I bought the Droid Turbo knowing damn well that this phone would get me through two years and it most definitely will and then some!
pjd2011 said:
Only thing I'd trade in for would be the new HTC 10. Very, very attractive device and an unlockable bootloader!
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If only the HTC 10 had Qi wireless -- which it can't with the metal body. It did catch my interest for a few minutes, however.
pjd2011 said:
Only thing I'd trade in for would be the new HTC 10. Very, very attractive device and an unlockable bootloader!
My Droid Incredible and M7 were by far my best phones. Great design and even better developer support. Hell, I'd still be rocking my M7 if the cameras and battery life was just a bit better.
Still, I agree with all the above. I bought the Droid Turbo knowing damn well that this phone would get me through two years and it most definitely will and then some!
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HTC went on record saying that “certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.” So if you want the Verizon model, there's a 99.999999% chance the bootloader will be locked. Hopefully there will be a local carrier XT1250-esque case that can get around this. It is a sweet looking phone though. If Sense wasn't so ugly, I might consider it, but I'm in no hurry to drop my Turbo.
Edit: It looks like the home screen has a fairly stock-ish layout. Interesting...will HTC become the new Motorola?
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ChazzMatt said:
If only the HTC 10 had Qi wireless -- which it can't with the metal body. It did catch my interest for a few minutes, however.
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I thought the S6 and S7 both supported wireless charging with their metal bodies?
TheSt33v said:
I thought the S6 and S7 both supported wireless charging with their metal bodies?
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They do support Qi. My sister has an S6.
But for both the LG G5 not having Qi and the HTC 10 not having Qi, the reason stated was due to the all metal bodies. I don't know how Samsung does it.
ChazzMatt said:
They do support Qi. My sister has an S6.
But for both the LG G5 not having Qi and the HTC 10 not having Qi, the reason stated was due to the all metal bodies. I don't know how Samsung does it.
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Samsung gs6 and gs7 have glass backs with metal bands around the body. Qi works fine thru glass.