I bought a 2gb of ram moto g3 and i have noticed that camera2 api is not implemented so i can´t use Manual Camera, or another camera app to do raw shots, have manual controls, etc.
I´m surprised because my mother´s moto e 2014 has it.
Very dissapointed with that. The camera module is not bad at all but post-processing kills the photos.
Support for the Camera2 API usually comes down to the availability of hardware drivers for the camera module. I doubt Motorola has much say in this situation.
bozzykid said:
Support for the Camera2 API usually comes down to the availability of hardware drivers for the camera module. I doubt Motorola has much say in this situation.
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We have the exact same camera hardware as Nexus 6, and I believe both Moto X 2015 variants....I highly doubt it's a matter of availablity...it's FAR more likely Lenovo opted to cheap out, while last year, Moto opted for quality over revenue in almost every aspect.
Could we pester Motorola so include the API in the Marshmallow update?
Moto X 2015 variants? They've got different sensors.. 21MP vs 13MP.
I really miss the manual controls after coming from a Lumia ? Like @Kevinjs said can we pester Motorola to include the API?
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Could we pester Motorola so include the API in the Marshmallow update?
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You could but it would solve nothing. Literally, the only thing stopping camera2 support is proper drivers that support the api. And Motorola does not provide them.
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hp420 said:
We have the exact same camera hardware as Nexus 6.
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No. It has the same sensor. It doesn't necessarily have the exact same camera module.
That's a shame! Motorola could develop compatible drivers right? We must start a petition or something. XD
mcnico said:
That's a shame! Motorola could develop compatible drivers right? We must start a petition or something. XD
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No, Motorola doesn't manufacture the camera module. So they have no say in the drivers. Of course, we don't know what their contract is like with the camera hardware manufacturer, so we have no way of knowing the process of getting updated drivers from them.
bozzykid said:
No, Motorola doesn't manufacture the camera module. So they have no say in the drivers. Of course, we don't know what their contract is like with the camera hardware manufacturer, so we have no way of knowing the process of getting updated drivers from them.
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Yeah I see the problem.. I was just joking though. Cause there are petitions for anything and everything today xD
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THey guys i just created this petition for sony to add Camera2 API , in a Sony forum , Sony Xperia Staff stated that they will add this feature if there is a huge demand on it .
" we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand "
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/td-p/974742
So i just created this petition to show the great demand of users , please share it all over xda
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobil...pport-to-xperia-smartphones?just_created=true
Thank you!
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I'm pretty sure a petition already exists
@muzab a
I looked everywhere i couldn't find one , now just share this one so we can reach thousands
Thank You
http://email.change.org/mpss/c/hQA/...YsbFj-2Fnr1tIwpy-2BPjoUzKExudIx-2BxnqUA-3D-3D
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Delete yr one and use this
This is something else , my petiotion is for Camera2 API , check the sony website they said they will support it if they find huge demand.
that petition has nothing to do with that
Guys please share it , just copy the link and post on other threads, we need to reach thousands so sony can see it and see the demand
Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
@RollingRoman uhh noobs again , this forum is for all sony devices and you can see it in any sony device forum , but for sure we only mean devices that are still in support
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Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
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Man..please, forgot about ended support 4.0.4, it's xperia 2011 series..... For that, hope that CM12 would release lollipop update with Camera2 API..
Now we're talking about the Z series (maybe T2 Ultra and C3 too) which got official lollipop update and yes, Camera2 API is a part of lollipop feature. We're hoping sony to release an update featured with Camera2 API and this is cross-sony device section.. So it means all "SONY" related thing is here.. sorry, no hard feeling no harshing.. PEACE NO WAR brother..
@daniLaLaLaLaLa Thank you
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Signed. I hope we succeed.I also wrote to Sony. Here is their answer:
Dear Mr. Tochev,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that Android™ 5.0 supports the new camera features via android.hardware.camera2, and Google™ defines three modes for the new camera features:
1.Legacy mode (no support RAW capture)
2.Limited mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
3.Full mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
Currently, Xperia™ supports Legacy mode in our Lollipop update which incorporate features and functionality in addition to our already renowned camera experience.
As always, we monitoring our customer expectations and regarding supporting taking pictures in RAW format, we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand.
They write the exxact same thing everytime.We have to push them harder to succeed.
@BlAckXpeRia
Let's show them the demand
Actually i think its nothing more than scripted customer care reply...It will take a lot of work for them to incorporate camera 2 api in our devices and i don't think they will bother..maybe incorporate it in future devices or something.
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Let's show them the demand
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I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
BlAckXpeRia said:
I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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I think it will come atleast for Z2 and Z3. They are really similar. But no matter what Sony does, I am stuck with them. I just can't get away from that beautiful design and software. All other manufactures have things I hate(LG-plastic, Samsung-software, nexus line and motorola- awful camera). My only problem with Sony is the new API. And they don't forget their devices-even the 2012 xperia z has lollipop and may get M.
Its not guaranteed to come to z3 or even z2, z1 and grampa z we can now easily forget since z has an expired 18 months period and z1 is close to expiration... Further on, LG G$ as it stands has way more superior camera then z3, Samsung is also investing hugely in marketing, and only thing Sony needs to do basically to survive is to a) improve software department, not so much the overall UI but software in camera for instance, it lags behind Samsung, Apple and LG as things stand, but they mosty use Sony's hardware, more limited one, so there is no objection for not handling software part more effectivley. and B) to improve customer relations, as we all know Sony is always lagging with announcments for new software features, heck they event dont know if the M2 or T3 are in plans for LP upgrade (which is lousy)!!!!
Onwards, remember the explanation provided for question wheter Sony will publish and software update for camera2 API or not, Sony gave as a bunch of c**p and basically told us ''oh, go f**k yourself with that'' masked in ''if there will be public demand we will then see...''
Of corse there is public demand, why wouldn't there be on since people always appreciate good featured updates. Look at Samsung, they are doing everything they can to fix camera things, publishing updates more oftenlly then Sony Social networks CM published something on either Social network used by Sony.
This is a really compelling phone by blackberry. Nice aesthetics and features, even though the design makes it practically an idol 4, but I think the DTEK50 will be the phone to consider. What I would like to know, unlike the Priv, will it be possible to break through the bootloader and root this device?
Both good and bad to see Blackberry taking another approach
I don't think it will be rootable...
tatail said:
I don't think it will be rootable...
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Yup. Since security is the whole point of the BlackBerry phones, I'm guessing no.
felipe175gr said:
Yup. Since security is the whole point of the BlackBerry phones, I'm guessing no.
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
Happy to see blackberry take another stab at it. Just have to see if it hits a better chord with people this time.
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
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So it'll be able to be rooted the same way? Same firmware and everything? I think that bootloader will be tough though.
probably rootable but hard to achieve because blackberry has been boasting its security features on this phone..
According to a BBC news article, this phone will have a modified chipset inside and hardware signing capabilities to eliminate the ability of the user to install custom Roms to eliminate the risk. The chances of root, let alone a custom rom and recovery for this device is so small that I wouldn't even say 1%
Edit - direct quote "But Blackberry says the phone has unique internal hardware, with its chips protected by cryptographic keys to prevent tampering and thwart hackers"
no to root
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
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Not the blackberry version. It's got hardware encryption to prevent tampering.
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Not the blackberry version. It's got hardware encryption to prevent tampering.
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You probably meant software encryption. You don't encrypt hardware. Most likely there will be some level of encryption, but if it has a subforum here on XDA, bet it'll be rooted before a month is out after it's releasee.
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You probably meant software encryption. You don't encrypt hardware. Most likely there will be some level of encryption, but if it has a subforum here on XDA, bet it'll be rooted before a month is out after it's releasee.
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Software encryption for sure. I don't see the confidence in gaining root though, as far as I see the priv is still without root
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Software encryption for sure. I don't see the confidence in gaining root though, as far as I see the priv is still without root
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I love how the priv looks and I love blackberry keyboards but no root = no purchase.
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I love how the priv looks and blackberry make great keyboards, but without root I'm not interested.
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I love how the priv looks and I love blackberry keyboards but no root = no purchase.
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I love how the priv looks and blackberry make great keyboards, but without root I'm not interested.
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Blackberry phones aren't rooted because you negate any encryption on the phone and any security features that are enabled. If you aren't a security and business minded individual you shouldn't purchase a blackberry product.
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Blackberry phones aren't rooted because you negate any encryption on the phone and any security features that are enabled. If you aren't a security and business minded individual you shouldn't purchase a blackberry product.
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That is quite certainly true, I never said anything about the security, nor of its benefits and cons, I complimented it's good looks and was sad that the option wasn't made in some form for those us that would like root.
I know of atleast one company that will allow bootloader unlocks through request only so the regular person doesn't break the security, but the option for those of us that want root is always one that should have more consideration.
Edit; As a tech with an old school blackberry for work, having one on android I could root with the knowledge to circumvent most of the consequences would be pretty much a dream, I've used blackberrys in some form since my adolescent
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That is quite certainly true, I never said anything about the security, nor of its benefits and cons, I complimented it's good looks and was sad that the option wasn't made in some form for those us that would like root.
I know of atleast one company that will allow bootloader unlocks through request only so the regular person doesn't break the security, but the option for those of us that want root is always one that should have more consideration.
Edit; As a tech with an old school blackberry for work, having one on android I could root with the knowledge to circumvent most of the consequences would be pretty much a dream, I've used blackberrys in some form since my adolescent
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I used to love Blackberry. I've had many myself also. My fav was the Torch series they released. That thing lasted me through the USMC looking like it got blown up, but still worked great and when it got stolen whoever took it wouldn't get anything. I'm not sure Blackberry does this, but I hope they don't make certain security features break the phone if you manage to circumvent them in some way.
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I used to love Blackberry. I've had many myself also. My fav was the Torch series they released. That thing lasted me through the USMC looking like it got blown up, but still worked great and when it got stolen whoever took it wouldn't get anything. I'm not sure Blackberry does this, but I hope they don't make certain security features break the phone if you manage to circumvent them in some way.
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I think if you want to root a blackberry device, you should be willing and know that certain security features won't work. It's naive to think that you could
"Unique ID, verified boot, a hardened kernel, full disk encryption, the promise of zero-day patching and monthly security updates" - the register
Blackberry also released a pdf documenting security features that's available online, I think for the �£275 price tag it'll be a good phone, and for the security conscious and business guy it's a good deal, it's good for the company to scale back on the hardware side but I'll miss the priv for sure. I doubt I'll be heading back to blackberry anytime soon but it's been interesting to watch their strategy play out.
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The DTEK50 takes its name from the DTEK application installed, it used only notify but it's been fleshed into a permissions manager, running on marshmallow.
Edit 2:.Specifications:..
Octocore Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 system-on-chip (four at 1.5GHz and four at 1.2GHz).
3GB RAM, 16GB flash, and a slot for microSD cards up to 2TB.
5.2 inch full-HD 1080-by-1920-pixel display, at 424 PPI.
13MP f2.0 main camera and 8MP front camera with flash.
Stereo front facing speakers.
2610mAH battery with QuickCharge 2.0
u0aol said:
"Unique ID, verified boot, a hardened kernel, full disk encryption, the promise of zero-day patching and monthly security updates" - the register
Blackberry also released a pdf documenting security features that's available online, I think for the �£275 price tag it'll be a good phone, and for the security conscious and business guy it's a good deal, it's good for the company to scale back on the hardware side but I'll miss the priv for sure. I doubt I'll be heading back to blackberry anytime soon but it's been interesting to watch their strategy play out.
Edit: update,
The DTEK50 takes its name from the DTEK application installed, it used only notify but it's been fleshed into a permissions manager, running on marshmallow.
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Octocore Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 system-on-chip (four at 1.5GHz and four at 1.2GHz).
3GB RAM, 16GB flash, and a slot for microSD cards up to 2TB.
5.2 inch full-HD 1080-by-1920-pixel display, at 424 PPI.
13MP f2.0 main camera and 8MP front camera with flash.
Stereo front facing speakers.
2610mAH battery with QuickCharge 2.0
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The specs are that of the Idol 4 which is exclusive to cricket. None of the hardware is changed. It's all in the software. Also it seems for blackberry security the phone is apparently worth 80 bucks more than the standard idol 4 which is 200 bucks. Don't really see how that computes, but oklydokly. Also I don't think you understood my last post. I'm talking about blackberry adding security features built in that once turned off breaks the phone as in the phone stops working. All phone have limited software security that when broken the security doesn't work. That's obvious.
So, the Xiaomi MI6 is having an IMX386, and a Snapdragon 835, as everyone already know, and these are capable for recording up to 720p240FPS and 1080p120FPS. Maybe more, but I can't find any official specification for the camera sensor, only a phone with this sensor that capable of these recording settings: https://imgur.com/a/VpiMx
My question is belong to our great developers, are you having some kind of interest modding this device to support these options, or we have to wait for the kernel source code first, or is it possible at all?
I think it is possible, but we have to wait till the source code. My guess is that Xiaomi releases it mid-October.
I'm trying to figure out FHD/60fps recording here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-6/help/to-enable-hd-60fps-recording-t3626185
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I'm trying to figure out FHD/60fps recording here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-6/help/to-enable-hd-60fps-recording-t3626185
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I don't think it's possible (yet). Tried a lot of things, none of them actually recorded 60fps...
You can try to ask the developers of freedcam or Bacon Camera. and see if they can provide any support for it.
Also, if the camera driver doesn't provide support for it, I'm not sure it is even possible to do.
Freedcam thread is over here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/camera-freedcam-4-0-3-t3115548
Bacon Camera is over here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/camera-bacon-camera-t3253278
Bacon Camera already seems to have some support for Xiaomi Mi6, but I don't which features it support on this device, but you should try it before you ask for support of course..
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I think it is possible, but we have to wait till the source code. My guess is that Xiaomi releases it mid-October.
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That's not related to kernel source... Blobs handle that kind of stuff.
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That's not related to kernel source... Blobs handle that kind of stuff.
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So do you think we'll ever see 60fps recording ?
Moto Z2 Force uses 2 IMX 386 sensors.
Their Kernel is released.
Maybe there's something that can be done.
Anybody know if camera2 api access to manual camera functions supported in MM, Nougat updates? Nice phone but no camera2 api support dealbreaker for me and my students. Cheers.
It seems there's no support
What the actual #[email protected]?! I wish I knew this before I bought it. To think that I went for 'an older phone but with a good camera' just to end up with worse camera controls than the cheapest 2013 Lumia...
It's ok man move into a new phone.
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It's ok man move into a new phone.
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The thing is it IS my new phone. The maximum I could afford. But hey, at least I bailed out from the two-year-abandonware Window Phone/Windows <whatever>.
By the way...
Q: Why can't I change shutter speed / ISO / focus? Where is RAW?
A: Only devices with Camera2 API support have access to these features. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about this, it is up to your device manufacturer to add support.
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More details
http://www.riseupgames.com/proshot/camera2api
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/howto-enable-camera2-manual-camera-t3238748/
can someone port Moto camera 2 app from 2018 motorola devices..
ajaikumarnadar said:
can someone port Moto camera 2 app from 2018 motorola devices..
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Did you update your Play Store apps in the last 2 months? Or am I missing something?
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Did you update your Play Store apps in the last 2 months? Or am I missing something?
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i have updated the camera app.. but still many camera features are missing that are with 2018 Motorola devices... which doesn't require additional hardware support for functioning..
i have checked in Playstore there are two Motorola camera apps which one camera app belongs to older devices another camera app belongs to Newer 2018 devices
older camera app for 2016 devices
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.cameraone
newer camera app for 2018 devices
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.camera2