THey guys i just created this petition for sony to add Camera2 API , in a Sony forum , Sony Xperia Staff stated that they will add this feature if there is a huge demand on it .
" we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand "
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/td-p/974742
So i just created this petition to show the great demand of users , please share it all over xda
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobil...pport-to-xperia-smartphones?just_created=true
Thank you!
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I'm pretty sure a petition already exists
@muzab a
I looked everywhere i couldn't find one , now just share this one so we can reach thousands
Thank You
http://email.change.org/mpss/c/hQA/...YsbFj-2Fnr1tIwpy-2BPjoUzKExudIx-2BxnqUA-3D-3D
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Delete yr one and use this
This is something else , my petiotion is for Camera2 API , check the sony website they said they will support it if they find huge demand.
that petition has nothing to do with that
Guys please share it , just copy the link and post on other threads, we need to reach thousands so sony can see it and see the demand
Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
@RollingRoman uhh noobs again , this forum is for all sony devices and you can see it in any sony device forum , but for sure we only mean devices that are still in support
RollingRoman said:
Are you really that naive? Support for the device ended after ICS 4.0.4 and you really expect them to add support to Camera2 API (which by the way is an Lollipop feature)?
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Man..please, forgot about ended support 4.0.4, it's xperia 2011 series..... For that, hope that CM12 would release lollipop update with Camera2 API..
Now we're talking about the Z series (maybe T2 Ultra and C3 too) which got official lollipop update and yes, Camera2 API is a part of lollipop feature. We're hoping sony to release an update featured with Camera2 API and this is cross-sony device section.. So it means all "SONY" related thing is here.. sorry, no hard feeling no harshing.. PEACE NO WAR brother..
@daniLaLaLaLaLa Thank you
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Signed. I hope we succeed.I also wrote to Sony. Here is their answer:
Dear Mr. Tochev,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that Android™ 5.0 supports the new camera features via android.hardware.camera2, and Google™ defines three modes for the new camera features:
1.Legacy mode (no support RAW capture)
2.Limited mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
3.Full mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
Currently, Xperia™ supports Legacy mode in our Lollipop update which incorporate features and functionality in addition to our already renowned camera experience.
As always, we monitoring our customer expectations and regarding supporting taking pictures in RAW format, we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand.
They write the exxact same thing everytime.We have to push them harder to succeed.
@BlAckXpeRia
Let's show them the demand
Actually i think its nothing more than scripted customer care reply...It will take a lot of work for them to incorporate camera 2 api in our devices and i don't think they will bother..maybe incorporate it in future devices or something.
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@BlAckXpeRia
Let's show them the demand
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I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
BlAckXpeRia said:
I think we did it! Look at the Z3+. It supports all manual functions exept RAW.
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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''We did it'' one may say only when Sony pushes this API on all LP devices. Untill then, and i think they will keep it that way because they need to seel the new phone somehow, we should keep raising our voice, as it is not fair to have a damn good hardware that is ''ruined'' by lousy software. They need to enhance it ASAP in my opinion, or else Sony is risking a bad reputation going even worse...
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I think it will come atleast for Z2 and Z3. They are really similar. But no matter what Sony does, I am stuck with them. I just can't get away from that beautiful design and software. All other manufactures have things I hate(LG-plastic, Samsung-software, nexus line and motorola- awful camera). My only problem with Sony is the new API. And they don't forget their devices-even the 2012 xperia z has lollipop and may get M.
Its not guaranteed to come to z3 or even z2, z1 and grampa z we can now easily forget since z has an expired 18 months period and z1 is close to expiration... Further on, LG G$ as it stands has way more superior camera then z3, Samsung is also investing hugely in marketing, and only thing Sony needs to do basically to survive is to a) improve software department, not so much the overall UI but software in camera for instance, it lags behind Samsung, Apple and LG as things stand, but they mosty use Sony's hardware, more limited one, so there is no objection for not handling software part more effectivley. and B) to improve customer relations, as we all know Sony is always lagging with announcments for new software features, heck they event dont know if the M2 or T3 are in plans for LP upgrade (which is lousy)!!!!
Onwards, remember the explanation provided for question wheter Sony will publish and software update for camera2 API or not, Sony gave as a bunch of c**p and basically told us ''oh, go f**k yourself with that'' masked in ''if there will be public demand we will then see...''
Of corse there is public demand, why wouldn't there be on since people always appreciate good featured updates. Look at Samsung, they are doing everything they can to fix camera things, publishing updates more oftenlly then Sony Social networks CM published something on either Social network used by Sony.
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http://goo.gl/Eb7eY
take alook in feture>os
it say we can upgrade officially 2.3
I think its just a mistyping. Once I saw that X8 has got 1GHz CPU So don't eat it.
EDIT: "Disclaimer. We can not guarantee that the information on this page is 100% correct."
X8 is upgradable, yes. This means X8's hardware support Android 2.3. Pity, but this does not mean that the X8 updated officially to 2.3
they fool people around they say u can run flash on x8 after upgrading to 2.2
and it has arm11 processor which is a big lie
ithunter said:
http://goo.gl/Eb7eY
take alook in feture>os
it say we can upgrade officially 2.3
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Maybe the guys from that website saw GingerDX on XDA and that's why they put X8 as upgradeable to 2.3 because Dx's roms are better than official
IROC_69 said:
they fool people around they say u can run flash on x8 after upgrading to 2.2
and it has arm11 processor which is a big lie
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Not completely false. Our processor family is Arm 11 and version is Armv6.
Sent from my X8 using XDA App
Well I guess most of the great developers are here so its better to listen to them than hoax info from other people. They know more about it I think.
i dont believe it
Look this http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
ok this thread gives me goosebumps i wonder if this is really true
i will cross my finghers
lotus13 said:
ok this thread gives me goosebumps i wonder if this is really true
i will cross my finghers
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hope we will have official gingerbread #justhope
i just emailed gsmarena about this modification.If this info is from SE.
W8ing for response
If that's really true, i will happy b coz of it and still love my X8 haha!!
PS: By the way, change the title
wowww, u made my day, I saw 2.1 a week ago on gsmarena. that's good if it's not a mistake.
maybe they've been hacked by a x8 owner who was drunk and decided to have some fun
that's true, its in sony ericsson official page 'New software upgrade for Xperia™ 2011 smartphones announced' check it out
'We’ve just announced a major software upgrade for 2011 Xperia™ smartphones. The Xperia™ software upgrade provides users with:
The latest version of Android software (Gingerbread) including Google Talk with Video Chat for smartphones with front-facing cameras.
Updated Facebook inside Xperia™ which allows users to like, share, and discover on Facebook faster and easier; users also have the ability to share games, apps and songs directly to Facebook™.
Enhanced camera capabilities from Sony, including 3D sweep panorama
Connectivity to USB peripherals (mouse, keypad, or game controller) through the Sony Ericsson LiveDock™ multimedia station.
Swipe to write which allows for text input by swiping the finger from one letter to the next.
Screen capture from anywhere on the phone.'
'The Xperia™ software update will be available for most Sony Ericsson devices launched in 2011. The software upgrade will be available in select markets through a phased roll out starting from October 2011, and applicable Xperia™ phone owners will receive a notification instructing them to download the software over the air via 3G or WiFi. Alternately, they have the option to connect to a computer and download it via PC Companion.
For more details on the Xperia™ software upgrade features, check out our YouTube video'
sordia said:
that's true, its in sony ericsson official page 'New software upgrade for Xperia™ 2011 smartphones announced' check it out
'We’ve just announced a major software upgrade for 2011 Xperia™ smartphones. The Xperia™ software upgrade provides users with:
The latest version of Android software (Gingerbread) including Google Talk with Video Chat for smartphones with front-facing cameras.
Updated Facebook inside Xperia™ which allows users to like, share, and discover on Facebook faster and easier; users also have the ability to share games, apps and songs directly to Facebook™.
Enhanced camera capabilities from Sony, including 3D sweep panorama
Connectivity to USB peripherals (mouse, keypad, or game controller) through the Sony Ericsson LiveDock™ multimedia station.
Swipe to write which allows for text input by swiping the finger from one letter to the next.
Screen capture from anywhere on the phone.'
'The Xperia™ software update will be available for most Sony Ericsson devices launched in 2011. The software upgrade will be available in select markets through a phased roll out starting from October 2011, and applicable Xperia™ phone owners will receive a notification instructing them to download the software over the air via 3G or WiFi. Alternately, they have the option to connect to a computer and download it via PC Companion.
For more details on the Xperia™ software upgrade features, check out our YouTube video'
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It is only for 2011 phones.
x8 are from 2010
lopman said:
It is only for 2011 phones.
x8 are from 2010
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mmm... yes I think that I got over excited but can be trued!!
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have now been connected to an agent.
Nemesis: hi
Agent Wilken: Hi Nemesis, thanks for choosing Sony Ericsson Chat Support. My name is Wilken your Xperia™ Support Representative. I'll be glad to help you with your question today.
Nemesis: I would like to confirm this : " according to gsmarena.com and may other website it says xperia x8 is upgradeable to 2.3 is it really gonna happen ?
Agent Wilken: We are sorry but we can't comment what third party website is posting on the web.
Nemesis: ya that's right, I really respect sony and would love to see more and more quality products from sony in future, thanks for your precious time, but is there any official confirmation on this ?
Agent Wilken: I don't know. However, you can check our blog for update on that.
Nemesis: i would love to click a link
Agent Wilken: Here is the link: http://talk.sonyericsson.com/community/support?cc=us&lc=en
Nemesis: thanks alot, Sony ericsson rules, keep up the good work
Agent Wilken: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Nemesis: ya one question though, while it was announced that w995 would be last in w series why a w8 appears ?
Agent Wilken: I am sorry, did you read that information on our website? Because, understand, if the information is not posted on the Sony Ericsson website, we can't make any comment.
Nemesis: i see, thanks alot for replying sony still kicks M$, thanks alot for home appliances and playstation, that's it
Agent Wilken: Thank you.
Agent Wilken: Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson. If you require more information about our products please visit our Support Forum at http://bit.ly/amX5Ec.
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http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/100695#100695
ithunter said:
hope we will have official gingerbread #justhope
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what difference would that make? X8 will still have the same s*itty amount of RAM... and dont expect 211MB storage either...
sosad dat it only includes 2011 lineup
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/11/17/camera-libraries-available-for-sony-ericsson-phones/
Camera libraries available for Sony Ericsson phones
As promised when we announced our support of independent developers, we have now made the camera library binaries for a number of Sony Ericsson phones available under a special end user license agreement (EULA). You can use these camera libraries to handle the camera hardware in our 2011 Xperia™ phones except Xperia™ PLAY, which has a different camera module.
Download and find out more after the jump.
As we stated a while back, we recognise custom ROMs as an important part of the Android™ ecosystem. When we decided to support the FreeXperia group working on the custom ROMs for Sony Ericsson phones, we quickly found out they had problems with our cameras. This is because the camera technology used by Sony Ericsson is a very advanced – we actually consider it to be the best in the market. However it is a closed implementation, so we can’t share the source code for it.
However, after some discussions with the FreeXperia team, we agreed to allow the FreeXperia team to use our libraries (which can be seen as drivers) for the cameras. But these libraries could not be used as they were, since they had dependencies to other modules in the phone that could not be included in the custom ROM project. To solve this, we rebuilt the libraries and provided them with a special EULA.
These newly rebuilt camera libraries are now modified with less dependencies to other libraries. We have recompiled the libraries without code changes but with different build flags. You can use these camera libraries under a special EULA-license. There are several important conditions you need to comply with, for example:
The Software can be copied and distributed under the condition that the original copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty will stay intact and the Licensee will not charge money or fees for the Software, whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology.
Several more conditions apply – please read the full EULA and make sure you are complying before using the camera libraries in any software. Download the camera libraries and find the full EULA text in the zip. Here you can also find a short instruction on how to start using these libraries. For more information on how use libraries like these, please see the FreeXperia project related thread on the XDA forum. We don’t have any possibilities in providing further support on this.
At last but not least, we want to say thanks to all of you in the community supporting this work, we really appreciate it. Even though we might not be able to support every single request we get, we are doing our best to support the community going forward.
Karl-Johan Dahlström
Head of Developer Relations
Sony Ericsson
More information
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Find out how Sony Ericsson is supporting independent developers.
Learn how to build a Linux kernel.
Visit our unlock boot loader web service.
sounds good. anyone who understand this may improve the photo quality.
i can't wait to
anakinlam95 said:
sosad dat it only includes 2011 lineup
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/11/17/camera-libraries-available-for-sony-ericsson-phones/
Camera libraries available for Sony Ericsson phones
As promised when we announced our support of independent developers, we have now made the camera library binaries for a number of Sony Ericsson phones available under a special end user license agreement (EULA). You can use these camera libraries to handle the camera hardware in our 2011 Xperia™ phones except Xperia™ PLAY, which has a different camera module.
Download and find out more after the jump.
As we stated a while back, we recognise custom ROMs as an important part of the Android™ ecosystem. When we decided to support the FreeXperia group working on the custom ROMs for Sony Ericsson phones, we quickly found out they had problems with our cameras. This is because the camera technology used by Sony Ericsson is a very advanced – we actually consider it to be the best in the market. However it is a closed implementation, so we can’t share the source code for it.
However, after some discussions with the FreeXperia team, we agreed to allow the FreeXperia team to use our libraries (which can be seen as drivers) for the cameras. But these libraries could not be used as they were, since they had dependencies to other modules in the phone that could not be included in the custom ROM project. To solve this, we rebuilt the libraries and provided them with a special EULA.
These newly rebuilt camera libraries are now modified with less dependencies to other libraries. We have recompiled the libraries without code changes but with different build flags. You can use these camera libraries under a special EULA-license. There are several important conditions you need to comply with, for example:
The Software can be copied and distributed under the condition that the original copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty will stay intact and the Licensee will not charge money or fees for the Software, whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology.
Several more conditions apply – please read the full EULA and make sure you are complying before using the camera libraries in any software. Download the camera libraries and find the full EULA text in the zip. Here you can also find a short instruction on how to start using these libraries. For more information on how use libraries like these, please see the FreeXperia project related thread on the XDA forum. We don’t have any possibilities in providing further support on this.
At last but not least, we want to say thanks to all of you in the community supporting this work, we really appreciate it. Even though we might not be able to support every single request we get, we are doing our best to support the community going forward.
Karl-Johan Dahlström
Head of Developer Relations
Sony Ericsson
More information
Download the camera libraries for the 2011 Xperia phones.
Find out how Sony Ericsson is supporting independent developers.
Learn how to build a Linux kernel.
Visit our unlock boot loader web service.
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2011 line of [email protected]#$% [email protected]#%$ phones...
MASSIVE FACE PALM.
What i find so funny.. is how the x10 gets nothing.
They must have buried the source code disks for the x10 in the SUN.
Because it's nearly impossible to find anything on any 2010 device.
x10 wont go anywhere....even x10 as old phone also they not share the drivers libraries. thats mean our development for x10 wont go so far. They just gave another reason why we should not buy x10 at these days and why we should start looking for new phone.
Problem....
Hi all..i copied the 3 files for my arc and into the correct folder as instructed..
then i rebooted..
now the phone is on 'sony ericsson' screen..reboot n rebooted..
erm..
anyway to remove the 3 files again?
hinata76 said:
Hi all..i copied the 3 files for my arc and into the correct folder as instructed..
then i rebooted..
now the phone is on 'sony ericsson' screen..reboot n rebooted..
erm..
anyway to remove the 3 files again?
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Are you trying to use arc camera lib files on x10? Only way to repair is recovery restore if it is working or flashtool a ftf rom or seus...
Sent from my X10i using xda premium
hinata76 said:
Hi all..i copied the 3 files for my arc and into the correct folder as instructed..
then i rebooted..
now the phone is on 'sony ericsson' screen..reboot n rebooted..
erm..
anyway to remove the 3 files again?
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If u copied the files given by SE in ur arc so u are doing it wrong
that files are for development purposes
Repair ur phone using pc companion
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Are you trying to use arc camera lib files on x10? Only way to repair is recovery restore if it is working or flashtool a ftf rom or seus...
Sent from my X10i using xda premium
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no im using on arc..then the whole phone just died..
just reflashed now okay!
almost got my fingers burnt..lol.
Don't know if anyone or the devs notice this:
Dec 8, 2011
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 add-on for the Android SDK
The Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 add-on for the Android SDK includes the complete Android system with additions customizing it for the X10 : Sony Ericsson splash screen; X10 colour backgrounds; A "skin" of the X10 which is a simple graphic of the front of the phone; A hardware.ini file to set the operating parameters for screen, camera, audio and so on. Link:http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wportal/devworld/downloads/download/dw-102216-xperia-x10sdkadd-onr1?cc=gb&lc=en
Can this help with the camera development?
Can anyone make normal flash for x10?
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Hello guys
May i ask if OmniROM will ever make it to the Xperia Z2 (Sirius)?
Been missing it for ages now
Keep up the great work
mariotme said:
Hello guys
May i ask if OmniROM will ever make it to the Xperia Z2 (Sirius)?
Been missing it for ages now
Keep up the great work
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I normally just report device requests, but since I've done a lot of the Sony bringups:
I wanted a Z2. I really, really wanted one.
However I don't buy greymarket imports, and Sony refused to sell the Z2 in North America until after the Z3 was launched. Even now, the purchasing link is nearly impossible to find (it is not listed for sale anywhere on sonymobile.com)
Z3 is a possibility if it goes on sale unlocked in North America in a timely fashion. (Which is unlikely...) Z2 is a possibility if some maintainer picks it up, of course, but considering the device's successor is out now, that's pretty unlikely.
Entropy512 said:
I normally just report device requests, but since I've done a lot of the Sony bringups:
I wanted a Z2. I really, really wanted one.
However I don't buy greymarket imports, and Sony refused to sell the Z2 in North America until after the Z3 was launched. Even now, the purchasing link is nearly impossible to find (it is not listed for sale anywhere on sonymobile.com)
Z3 is a possibility if it goes on sale unlocked in North America in a timely fashion. (Which is unlikely...) Z2 is a possibility if some maintainer picks it up, of course, but considering the device's successor is out now, that's pretty unlikely.
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I totally understand Entropy512! Thanks for your input buddy. Appreciate all your efforts man. Keep it up :good:
Entropy512 said:
I wanted a Z2. I really, really wanted one.
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Thanks for your answer, yes that's the best smartphone I've ever got! Why the hell do they think they don't need to sell their devices in america??
As I know you are a major developer of OmniRom, I really hope you will be able to get an Xperia Z4, and hopefully port the ROM on it..
Thanks for your work!:good:
May I Taste said:
Thanks for your answer, yes that's the best smartphone I've ever got! Why the hell do they think they don't need to sell their devices in america??
As I know you are a major developer of OmniRom, I really hope you will be able to get an Xperia Z4, and hopefully port the ROM on it..
Thanks for your work!:good:
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I'll probably skip the Z4 thanks to Sony's crazy 6-month product cycle.
I have a Z3 but so far it's stock. This device is holding a record for the longest I've gone without root/unlocking the BL.
Sony did an awesome job with the stock firmware on the SIM-unlocked Z3.
Entropy512 said:
I'll probably skip the Z4 thanks to Sony's crazy 6-month product cycle.
I have a Z3 but so far it's stock. This device is holding a record for the longest I've gone without root/unlocking the BL.
Sony did an awesome job with the stock firmware on the SIM-unlocked Z3.
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Thanks for your kind answer and I can understand you. It seems however that the Z4 will now last for one year as flagship. Anyway I'll make sure to stay tuned if by chance you work on OmniROM for it.
Have a wonderful year, you and your whole family!
There some unofficial builds for the Sony Sirius floating around...
http://infectedbuilds.net/downloads/sirius/omni_lp/
From my very brief play with it, there's no Cam or NFC but everything else seems pretty useable.
A number of Omni team members are working with the Sony AOSP guys. Short-term it means a lot of things are broken that aren't in CM since Sony AOSP is reworking a bunch of stuff onto a newer unified kernel that will support a large variety of devices. Long-term it'll allow us to support more Sony devices with less effort.
I think one of the guys working this has a sirius... I forget who.
I just synced all the Omnirom repos and compiled for the Z2. It works ok, just no Camera, recovery and there seems to be a bug around internal storage, as it thinks there is no space left.
I'd be interested in helping to fix these things, I'm pretty comfortable using git and gerrit and know some Java and C++ but I have no idea where to start.
Code:
adb logcat | grep camera
- waiting for device -
E/CameraService( 373): Could not load camera HAL module
W/ResourcesManager( 1057): Asset path '/system/framework/com.google.android.camera2.jar' does not exist or contains no resources.
I/CameraManagerGlobal( 1057): getCameraService: Reconnecting to camera service
E/CameraService( 373): getCameraVendorTagDescriptor: camera hardware module doesn't exist
W/CameraManagerGlobal( 1057): Failed to set up vendor tags: The camera device is removable and has been disconnected from the Android device, or the camera service has shut down the connection due to a higher-priority access request for the camera device.
So I'd guess I'd have to find out why the camera HAL module can't be loaded?
mikeysteele said:
I just synced all the Omnirom repos and compiled for the Z2. It works ok, just no Camera, recovery and there seems to be a bug around internal storage, as it thinks there is no space left.
I'd be interested in helping to fix these things, I'm pretty comfortable using git and gerrit and know some Java and C++ but I have no idea where to start.
Code:
adb logcat | grep camera
- waiting for device -
E/CameraService( 373): Could not load camera HAL module
W/ResourcesManager( 1057): Asset path '/system/framework/com.google.android.camera2.jar' does not exist or contains no resources.
I/CameraManagerGlobal( 1057): getCameraService: Reconnecting to camera service
E/CameraService( 373): getCameraVendorTagDescriptor: camera hardware module doesn't exist
W/CameraManagerGlobal( 1057): Failed to set up vendor tags: The camera device is removable and has been disconnected from the Android device, or the camera service has shut down the connection due to a higher-priority access request for the camera device.
So I'd guess I'd have to find out why the camera HAL module can't be loaded?
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Camera is far away from being supported. The blobs are completely missing, because they simply won't work with our kernel.
There's work being done, however a lot of it has to be done by someone within Sony and that results in stuff having to go through a legal approval process.
In theory it might be possible with some work to get 5.0 camera blobs working with a lot of kernel hacking, but most people are focusing on a cleaner approach that will take longer and unfortunately has dependencies on Sony's lawyers.
Entropy512 said:
Camera is far away from being supported. The blobs are completely missing, because they simply won't work with our kernel.
There's work being done, however a lot of it has to be done by someone within Sony and that results in stuff having to go through a legal approval process.
In theory it might be possible with some work to get 5.0 camera blobs working with a lot of kernel hacking, but most people are focusing on a cleaner approach that will take longer and unfortunately has dependencies on Sony's lawyers.
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Thanks for the update. I noticed there weren't any camera blobs in the source, so I assumed it wasn't as simple as just adding them in. I see on github the CM guys hacked their kernel to be able to use the old Jellybean camera blobs which looks painful. Hopefully Sony's lawyers aren't too obstructionist. Although to their credit the Sony stock rom isn't actually too bad. Nothing compared to Omni Rom though.
mikeysteele said:
Thanks for the update. I noticed there weren't any camera blobs in the source, so I assumed it wasn't as simple as just adding them in. I see on github the CM guys hacked their kernel to be able to use the old Jellybean camera blobs which looks painful. Hopefully Sony's lawyers aren't too obstructionist. Although to their credit the Sony stock rom isn't actually too bad. Nothing compared to Omni Rom though.
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Yeah. They used a kernel backcompat hack, and are using old 4.3 rhine blobs because those are the last ones that were completely 100% DRM-free.
DRM issues have caused all sorts of problems with rhine/shinano cameras ever since 4.4 - Workarounds for many of these have been found, but not all. But the kernel backcompat hacks would still be needed (potentially multiple hacks for each device supported by the Sony AOSP kernel) and that gets nasty.
So the current plan is to have a unified set of sensor drivers in the kernel, with blobs provided as part of the Sony AOSP project. However I think this is going to be easier said than done - it's not just Sony lawyers, but Qualcomm lawyers. It really sucks that the entirety of Qualcomm's mm-camera subsystem is proprietary and there's no way for an opensource developer to write modules for it, which prevents any of the community side of the Sony AOSP project from working on some things. Otherwise it would probably be not too difficult to replace Sony's noise reduction algorithm (likely with a better one... Sony's NR algorithm got slammed for being too aggressive and killing sharpness over in a dpreview review... All that DRM protection for something some people actually prefer to have gone.)
Edit: And yes, Sony's stock firmwares are amazing. My Z3 holds the record for longest I've ever owned a device without even bothering to root it.
Another thing, my phone is the China Mobile version (L50t) and OmniRom runs perfectly on it, I just have to change the radio and wlan firmware. I can supply the required files and be a tester if you wanted to add official support for this varient.
The Sony Xperia Z2 and Z3 devices are both amongs one of Sony's best smartphones ever that they has released. By signing this petition, we will all let Sony take action and update our precious Z2 and even Z3 devices to Android Nougat!
But what about Vulkan API support???
Anything is possible, and we will prove to Google and Sony that having the minimum requirements for software to work correctly, is plain garbage, and that Vulkan API can be left out for them, because it's not like the Vulkan API is a necessity for Nougat in order to run correctly.
ANYMORE QUESTIONS WILL BE BROUGHT UP FROM THE COMMENTS ONTO THE OP AND ANSWERED HERE.
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I Just Want A Stable 7.0 Build For Z2
Man i think this is impossible. Qualcomm completely left the development of the SD800/801 and if Sony update our devices without permission of Google, they will be in a big trouble. To me, this is impossible.
You are totally right Little Snevil. I also think that official update it's impossible because Qualcomm processor.
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Well, MAYBE it is possibile to get android 7.0 on snap 801. Just look http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...coming-soon-geekbench-benchmark-hints-yes.htm
This is sad, but change.org never has been listed by Google or Sony, like happen with z1 and marshmallow, Xperia L and kit kat, Xperia sp and kit kat. The true is Google and Sony never listen to users, only look the sales, and for those is better for him sale the new and forget the old
what i can say in that?
@Brandon Nel
Having a petition is a good idea, and I am not against it.
But there are two questions I would like to raise before proceeding to sign the petition:
1. Our Z3 and Z2 has been released for 24 and 30 months already, this already exceed the normal aftermarket support for Android devices (usually it goes among 18 to 24 months). Although you might say there has been rule breakers recently (for instance the Xperia Z that has almost 36 months of follow up upgrade), but however there are also some far below standard devices (eg Xperia C, which has no android upgrade since release). After all, Qualcomm, Sony and any other companies still have to make money for R&D and make a living, right? So I am thinking that shouldnt we live with what we are having now (AOSP 7.0)?
2. Shouldnt Qualcomm the company you should challenge against? Vulkan and OpenGS are featured in the chipset which is manufactured by QC, not Sony!
We should petition Qualcomm & Google instead of Sony.. Sony tried their best to bring Nougat through their Beta program for Z3.
But due to the lack of chipset updates from Qualcomm and the Vulkan API requirement set by Google, so many devices have been abandoned from the update even though they are fully capable to run N. This includes Z2 & Z3.
So in this case, either Qualcomm has to release update to our chipset or we have to force Google to remove mandatory Vulkan API requirement.
i need to pls make stable nougat..........................
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i need to pls make stable nougat..........................
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//This is purely an opinion, might be treated as sarcasm, but it is an opinion
1. Nougat is bad for me, it is uglier and security is even worse because of getting more strict.
2. It is nearly impossible to push this through, because now you need to actually HAVE that VulkanAPI support in order to get a cert from google to use gapps(Noone will use Vulkan straight away, because of fragmentation, but well, three billion devices run java, now three billion devices will have to run Vulkan as well and if not, they'll die)
Any effort is worthwhile haha. This should be shared in the Z3 forums!
Well, Sony published AOSP for Xperias. This might mean something, maybe they will be able to somehow get that cert.
Did you see this :
Sony is not to blame for leaving the Xperia Z3 off the Android Nougat list
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/3...ng-the-xperia-z3-off-the-android-nougat-list/
All devices with SD 800/801 will not updated to Android N 7.0 , Because of Qulacomm .
Alaa | Google Android said:
Did you see this :
Sony is not to blame for leaving the Xperia Z3 off the Android Nougat list
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/3...ng-the-xperia-z3-off-the-android-nougat-list/
All devices with SD 800/801 will not updated to Android N 7.0 , Because of Qulacomm .
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Not because of Qualcomm, but because of Google. They made Vulkan obligatory for getting certs. No one is going to use it from day one of Nougat anyway, because fragmentation, they want to push APIs, but Nougat isn't like 99% of Android right now. Although it might be handy when it reaches higher shares due to Vulkan's performance.
I guess we are done for security updates. It has been right at 2 years. Sad thing is, this is still a great little phone. I am not in the mood to root and tinker with issues. I wished there was a stable ROM out there to use. I wished that LineageOS would pick this little jewel up. Oh, well. It has been a good 2 years of a small, but very informative community of X Compact users.
I am still searching for a small phone replacement since Sony does not make small phones anymore. Post here if you have any recommendations.
Cheers!
del
I feel you. I think I've said it before on this forum, but I really don't get why there isn't a lineageos build for this phone. Lots of sony xperia phones have official lineageos builds and there even is an unofficial build for this device (so it's not exactly impossible to build).
That being said, I generally prefer omnirom and luckily they are supporting this device. I've been on omnirom 8.1 for ages and haven't encountered a bug yet, so imho it can definitely be considered stable. Right now I'm using a self-built omnirom 9.0 (security patch level 5 november 2018) as a daily driver and for a pre-official build it is already pretty stable. Sony's 'Pie' software binaries (which thankfully they still provide) are still in beta, so coupled with the omnirom team efforts the stability will only increase.
Bottom line for smartphone manufacturers: Just provide what is needed for the open source community to flourish, it'll cost you next to nothing and will pay you back in goodwill many times over.
Next upcoming problem is the lack of support for the Project Treble in Xperia X series devices which at least may cause significant delay in releasing ROMs based the newer Android versions or in the worst case might result in stopping their development as the successor - XZ1 series - supports it. I hope developers will follow the Z5 series path as there already is LineageOS for these. And hopefully some Xiaomi devices path as there are devices which now have unofficial support of the Project Treble.
BTW, we should also thank to the Google for an unwise cycle of releasing new Android version every year which accelerates fragmentation significantly as its main reason seems to be to persuade people to buy newer devices with latest version of Andoid OS on board.
harryharryharry said:
Lots of sony xperia phones have official lineageos builds and there even is an unofficial build for this device (so it's not exactly impossible to build).
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I suppose more recent Sony smartphones have been sold in significantly lower quantities than older ones (I read many times about Sony's smartphones poor sales numbers) and it might be the reason of a smaller community gathered around those newer devices.
Software security updates stopped?
If Sony stops providing software updates after 2y, it means those of us with a Sony Xperia X Compact (F5321) are unable to add Work e-mail accounts as the Microsoft Intune app requires an Android software update dated May 2019.
This silly policy by Sony is preventing me from adding my work O365 account to the device and means I am very unlikely to buy another Sony mobile phone ever again as its usable life is 2 years max. I am actually quite raging because I like the phone -this is beyond stupid from Sony.
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If Sony stops providing software updates after 2y, it means those of us with a Sony Xperia X Compact (F5321) are unable to add Work e-mail accounts as the Microsoft Intune app requires an Android software update dated May 2019.
This silly policy by Sony is preventing me from adding my work O365 account to the device and means I am very unlikely to buy another Sony mobile phone ever again as its usable life is 2 years max. I am actually quite raging because I like the phone -this is beyond stupid from Sony.
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use browser.
intune sucks anyway.
RTV_1974 said:
If Sony stops providing software updates after 2y, it means those of us with a Sony Xperia X Compact (F5321) are unable to add Work e-mail accounts as the Microsoft Intune app requires an Android software update dated May 2019.
This silly policy by Sony is preventing me from adding my work O365 account to the device and means I am very unlikely to buy another Sony mobile phone ever again as its usable life is 2 years max. I am actually quite raging because I like the phone -this is beyond stupid from Sony.
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This device has pretty lackluster support even in the dev community as well. All it's really got going for it atm but fortunately we have Lineage 17.1 and Project Treble. I recommend flashing a new rom if you don't want to switch phones.