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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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I'm very curious about this too.
I've looked into this briefly and from what I gather, any device that supports WIFI direct should be able to do this. I think I read somewhere that the N7 has wifi direct. Miracast is only a standard. There are other non-standard devices out there that can also do the same thing, but requires changes to the core android files.
Search for xbounds on youtube and the internet. You will see some demos of it. it requires an hdmi dongle that has wifi on it that communicates with your device.
In any event, if the N7 doesn't support miracast, it will support xbounds via a custom ROM (if and when somebody decides to build a custom ROM with xbounds integrated). Then all that is required is the xbounds dongle. Unfortunately, there is not much information on xbounds and when it will be released.
What would I need to purchase to get this working?
Hopefully, we don't need to buy stuff, we just need to update our devices when miracast comes down. There's a list of compatible devices on the Wi-Fi Alliance website. -Ara
EDIT: here's a link to the tegra explanation of miracast, taken from an article on the issue. Yeah, a dangle may be involved depending on the setup. http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-miracast-whitepaper-final.pdf
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I've not found any hardware that you could plug into say an HTML Monitor that will work with this yet. I do think it will be coming available soon though.
hope so
I reckon it will work with a Nexus 7. Hopefully the dongle isn't too expensive and my Nexus 7 will be my new PSone.
Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Nexus Q might get Miracast support
Nexus 7 and most Tegra 3 (also Galaxy S3) phones/tablets can get a fw upgrade to enable miracast (most that support WIFI Direct probably can have Miracast enabled).
Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
Personaly I think Miracast will be added out of the box and maybee even Google TV.
I only hope that it won't be possible to disable mirroring from inside an app using the API, if so I'm sure some streaming services will disable mirroring of the screen while using there apps lika HBO Go have done to Airplay
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Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
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Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
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Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
widi and Miracast adapters
I am thinking that these will do what we need on the display side. Now to enable it on the Nexus 7.
Netgear announces Push2TV WiDi adapter and three new NeoTV units
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
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Has anyone heard any updated news on miracast? I tried Google but all I found was old news. I'm really tired of waiting.
Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
Thanks
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Holy crap I swear the lack of information on miracast will be its demise. Its seriously pathetic that one can't even simply search for 'how to use miracast' and find simple answers. Miracast is seriously the equivalent to a unicorn at this point.
Somebody PLEASE prove me wrong. Its my most anticipated feature of 4.2.
What you just said is completely right. I tried many sources but nothing :/
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Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
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Bubble up player is great to stream from the tablet..
I use it because you can pick the device where the files are at. Say on a network computer share folder. Stream them thru the tablet to a Tv on the same network..
You can also select where the video is rendered .. Local ON THE SHARE Device or on the ..
MY Samsung shows up as a DLNA /Media device on all my networked devices . Its great feature..
YOU just have to play with the settings to find what works best with your tv and network shares.. There is also a SAMSUNG ALL SHARE App and program for windows pcs. that does NOT Require a samsung device..
As far as miracast who knows if or when....
The thing is, I don't want just DLNA playing to another device/computer/television. I want mirroring. I want exactly what Miracast is supposed to give me. And even now if you Google how to use Miracast you will find *nothing* about actually *how* to use it. You see a whole bunch of hype about people saying how it's going to beat AirPlay and how it's the best thing since sliced bread -- yet nobody has actually used it.
It's appalling how biased people can be without any evidence of the feature working (short of a video given to us by the friggin manufacturer). I feel like I purchased an iDevice. This feature is a ghost.
Exactly, feels like there are more Andro Sheep than iSheep. For now, 4.2 only brought amazing Bluetooth-NFC connectivity. As well as some UI stuff which there are plenty of custom on Android.
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What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.
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What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.
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Well I, for one, wouldn't even be connecting it to a TV. My home theater PC, however, should easily be able to have some sort of software running on it that would be able to receive the signal. The problem is that the functionality is only half-baked at this time no matter where you look.
And without any device currently on the market, how can people swear by it?
Before we all start a witch hunt, remember miracast is still in development. You can't have something that hasn't had an official release yet.
Android Central has had a few articles on it, so far there are no official streaming devices for it (although some companies have claimed their upcoming streaming devices will support it).
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Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.
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Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.
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EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.
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EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.
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Lazy, bad reporting.
They don't mention the 7 in the article, just the 10 and 4. I don't mind living without mirroring (my phone has MHL, if I ever bother to buy the adapter), but the wireless mirroring was a selling point on this tablet for me, even if I have to go custom to enable it.
As a filmmaking student, the capability to control and mirror screens on, say, a movie set, or a classroom, without plugging everything up just so, sounds pretty sweet. And I'm personally just tired of collecting single-use cables and adapters.
Patience, however, is a virtue, and I am willing to wait for Google to get off their asses once the mob realizes the shortchanges they're giving us. -Ara
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What I don't understand is why did they hype it so much? From what I understood, no ones TV even supports this yet. Am I supposed to buy a new TV for this feature?
And I also don't understand, how is N7 not mentioned in those articles? Official Miracast video says that this is going to be enabled for NVIDIA Tegra 3 devices. Only N7 has Tegra 3, N4 and N10 both have different stuff inside.
This thing lacks so much information.
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Yeah, prob a mistake to hype it so much. I mean, wait until the ecosystem is ready. Airplay has been out for so long it seems. Get off your asses, Google!
any devolopment?
Any devolopment on this? I just searched for an hour and only came up with articles on it, no downloads or hardware..
Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?
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Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?
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I have always wanted to try out a raspberry pi or to see a good video breakdown of mirroring the display. Hopefully the Miracast standard will take off but I heard you can't be connected to WiFi and use miracast at the same time
I would also like to know some options
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Has anyone made progress geting Nexus 7 mirroring working to a TV/Monitor?
I feel this tablet is sooooooo close to PERFECT except for this one thing...
no mirroring on Nexus 7
Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.
I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505
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I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505
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very cool. did you get to talk to anyone who had it working and any comments on it?
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Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.
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I don't think that "didn't implement" means the same thing as "blocked". OTOH, I never saw the (apparently short-lived) marketing claims by Google that said the N7 would do it.
This post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34464132&postcount=4
seems to suggest that there may be specific hardware performance limitations that make it improbable on the N7.
There are some threads on XDA (& other places too) where folks talk about their experiences attempting either WiDi or Miracast connection with the N4/N7/N10.
I haven't seen any reports of success with either on the N7... despite the curious WiDi option in the display settings in stock 4.2.1 on the N7... what's it for?
I was aware of all this prior to my purchase, but bought the N7 anyway. I'm still hopeful that something will happen in a future update; Miracast is still relatively new... Netgear is shipping their 3rd PTV device, and they are not yet Miracast certified.
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Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Yeah my adapter is powered but I did not have it plugged into USB. I'll try it again.
So does the Tab 4 (specificly the 8.0) support HDMI out? I notice that the US website and Best Buy mentions HDMI, but the canadian samsung website doesn't mention it.
The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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Hi I tried several adapters ordered by Amazon including this one Samsung ET-H10FAUWEGWW but no chance of getting HDMI a signal out.
Therefore I contacted Samsung using the Smart Tutor app of samsung and unfortunately after remote examining the device, they confirmed that MHL is NOT supported by this device. However this might apply only to the European versions.
So what, now I am so disappointed?! Does anybody know if Samsung maybe deactivated this feature in their ROMs, if so maybe we could get
HDMI out with a custom ROM in the future.
kind regards
Mjay
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You have to be careful in choosing an adapter for these. The following one did NOT work for my tab 4 10.1:
Go to amazon dot com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But this one specifically says it does, and comments seem to confirm it:
Go to amazon com/gp/product/B00KGP5SEC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have one on order, and I will post my results when I get it and try it.
Eric
I wish you luck with the second cable you mentioned, but I read all 24 pages of reviews for it and the Tab 4 is not mentioned as working in any review. Half the reviews say it doesn't even work with the devices listed!
Most CS staff have very little technical knowledge. I would not put one bit of faith in a CS rep saying, oh it's not listed in the adapter specs but it should work...lol.
I would lay odds that wired HDMI out is not implemented in the kernel we have now. There are a few reports here that people lost wired HDMI out on Tab 3 after the Kit Kat update.
Well, I would think that the tab 4 would be supported as the tab 3 was, but that is why I am getting the cheap adapter rather than the official Samsung one (that one is around $75 on Amazon, but $35-$39 elsewhere). Having been in IT, I have found that most of the problems that people have are self induced, i.e. they did not read the instructions, or took shortcuts. It is worth noting that there seems to be two Samsung MHL adapters, one for the phones and one for the tablets. I do not know why they would do that, it does not make sense to me, as it causes too much confusion.
Eric
Samsung has a history of changing cables and adapters for various devices as this page explains better than most.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
I figure that they want to sell some $100 AllShare Cast dongles before they introduce an new hardware keyed 11 pin micro USB adapter!
I can confirm that my Canadian Tab 4 8.0 has the Samsung 11 pin micro USB jack.
I tried again after reading the reviews of that cable.....reboot both devices...powered from Tab 4 power wart....changed HDMI inputs on TV....screen mirroring on/off......NADA.....
Well, the Tab 4 does not support MHL. At the moment anyway. My 10.1 does have the 11 pin connector, AFAICT, but I get no results when plugging a cable in. BTW macbroom, my last post was not directed at you, just those who buy something and don't read the directions.
Eric
I recently purchased a AUVIO MHL adapter ( male micro USB to female HDMI) for my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 (sm-t530nu). It uses a external power supply and also included the Samsung 11 pin adapter. I had read on a website that it does support MHL so I didn't think it would be an issue. However, it did NOT work and I tried with and without the adapter. After some browsing I found a miracast/allshare dongle on amazon for 22$ with free shipping and it works like a charm for the screen mirroring. I did notice while browsing that best buy had a "accessory kit" for the tab 4 10.1 that included a wall/car charger, OTG cable, and a MHL adapter. It was a dongle that plugged into your TV HDMI port and had a USB port that you connected the tab 4s charger to. So maybe it does support it and they just made changes to the connectors pins. It may have just been a mislabeled product also, who knows.
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I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
The setup I use with my Samsung S5 phone doesn't seem to work for my tablet, regardless of the order in which I hook everything up
I read elsewhere that the issue was related to the 5-pin vs. 11-pin connection, but adding an adapter for that in the mix didn't work either.
I'm not familiar with the Miracast/Allshare dongle - but that plugs into the TV, right? I had hoped to be able to display movies to a TV while on vacation, so won't know what type of TV (or associated ports) might be available...
I've found this EEEKit which is listed for the Tab 4 (bestbuy dot com/site/eeekit-bundle-3-in-1-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-4-10-1-t530mhl-to-hdmi-cable-otg-cable-sync-cable/1311158404.p?id=mp1311158404&skuId=1311158404&st=eeekit%20hdmi%20%22tab%204%22&cp=1&lp=1#tab=buyingOptions ) but no comments or reviews yet.
So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
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I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
...So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
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As much as I hate to say it, the new Tab 4 is going back to the store! I spent some time at Best Buy with their in-store Samsung rep, who made calls to *SOMEWHERE* to verify that the Tab 4 IS NOT COMPATIBLE with MHL connections. He tells me, the only way to disply your Tab screen on a TV is through AllShare Cast. Of course, he was willing to sell me their $65 connector! Since I've already purchased MHL adapters to use with my phones, I really don't want to invest in something else for the Tab. Just not that important.
Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Ohh okay, you mean that Knox nonsense. No, sorry I didn't understand what you mean't by that. Sorry ive only owned a samsung for a few weeks. Ive only had a Atrix HD so im use to flashing until my hearts content with no repercussion. However, Towelroot doesn't change the counter on the TAB 4 so simply rooting shouldn't be a problem if done correct. That's pathetic however, they really take away someone's ability to cast their screen because they enjoy modding/ flashing their devices? Terrible road to choose for a company with such nice devices.
Well, the good thing is that Chromecast does work on the Tab 4's. The bad news is that screen mirroring is in beta, and only supported on a few devices, officially. If you search for 'Enable Mirroring from any device', you will fine a thread on how to mirror from almost any unit via chromecast. Even though it is beta, it works on my Tab 4.
Eric
Does Galaxy tab 4 t231 have USB otg support? If not, can it be enabled by any method? Planning to buy this tablet. Please answer.. Thank you for your time
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Would really love to know this too. It's my understanding previous versions of the Galaxy Tab support USB OTG, and would love to enable it on the Tab 4.
On my smartphone I have an option in settings to turn OTG on and off, unfortunately no option seems to exist on my Tab4. Assuming the Tab 4 has hardware support for it, how would I go about enabling OTG?
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Would LOVE a solution as well~!:good:
Ran USB Diagnostics. As of now there is no support whatsoever but a custom ROM or Kernel may be able to enable it. I suppose there is a slight chance since the larger variants have OTG support and the hardware is similar.
Edit: Playing around with some OTG apps, it appears that we do not have hardware support so there's about 70-90% chance the tablet will purely not support it and trying to do so would be impossible.
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Ran USB Diagnostics. As of now there is no support whatsoever but a custom ROM or Kernel may be able to enable it. I suppose there is a slight chance since the larger variants have OTG support and the hardware is similar.
Edit: Playing around with some OTG apps, it appears that we do not have hardware support so there's about 70-90% chance the tablet will purely not support it and trying to do so would be impossible.
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I ran that same app on my Tab4 as well, unfortunately I wasn't able to understand everything the app told me so I concluded OTG support on the Tab4 was inconclusive =P
Considering OTG is supported on the other Galaxy Tab devices, what reasoning would Samsung have to not enable this feature on the Tab4 7.0? Especially if the hardware is the same (or very similar) it just doesn't make any sense to me why they wouldn't give the Tab4 7.0 OTG support as well. It's actually very frustrating in 2014 that this Tab doesn't support OTG. I am almost considering returning it solely for this reason (I haven't yet, because I'm very pleased with everything else the Tab4 has to offer).
My cheap, Chinese sub $100 android ICS tablet I bought last year had OTG support! What gives Samsung? I sort of expect more from a major brand like Samsung.
osiris010 said:
I ran that same app on my Tab4 as well, unfortunately I wasn't able to understand everything the app told me so I concluded OTG support on the Tab4 was inconclusive =P
Considering OTG is supported on the other Galaxy Tab devices, what reasoning would Samsung have to not enable this feature on the Tab4 7.0? Especially if the hardware is the same (or very similar) it just doesn't make any sense to me why they wouldn't give the Tab4 7.0 OTG support as well. It's actually very frustrating in 2014 that this Tab doesn't support OTG. I am almost considering returning it solely for this reason (I haven't yet, because I'm very pleased with everything else the Tab4 has to offer).
My cheap, Chinese sub $100 android ICS tablet I bought last year had OTG support! What gives Samsung? I sort of expect more from a major brand like Samsung.
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So, I may be wrong but I believe the problem may be in chip set itself, since its Marvell CPU (I never heard of this company). However, the Tab 3 also carried an older Marvell CPU, which they were able to overcome this problem with a custom Kernel. So, may be this tablet has slight chance of having OTG support but Scumbag Samsung decided that they don't the cheaper tablet to sell.
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So, I may be wrong but I believe the problem may be in chip set itself, since its Marvell CPU (I never heard of this company). However, the Tab 3 also carried an older Marvell CPU, which they were able to overcome this problem with a custom Kernel. So, may be this tablet has slight chance of having OTG support but Scumbag Samsung decided that they don't the cheaper tablet to sell.
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Well I'll certainly be holding out on that slight chance for OTG support lol. I was really looking forward to using my tab 4 as a second display with DSLR Controller, so you can imagine my disappointment when it didn't work =/
Either way, if a dev ends up seeing this and wants to implement this feature, let me know if I can do anything help (beta testing custom kernels) or whatever, just let me know. I'm more than willing to help move this forward, even if it ends up not working.
Hi, on my t235 otg works. For now i've tested it inly with usb storage sticks (8gb tdk, 8gb toshiba and 16gb verbatim) - stock file manager and total commander fully works with it. I dont have any mouse or keyboard to check that it works on otg.
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Hi, on my t235 otg works. For now i've tested it inly with usb storage sticks (8gb tdk, 8gb toshiba and 16gb verbatim) - stock file manager and total commander fully works with it. I dont have any mouse or keyboard to check that it works on otg.
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Correct, but 230 =/= 235. 235> 230.
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Correct, but 230 =/= 235. 235> 230.
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Someone managed to root?
ive managed to get usb stick to work otg on my smt530
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Someone managed to root?
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I did. No help at all
sscdougal said:
ive managed to get usb stick to work otg on my smt530
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Yeah it works but not for the SM-T230NU
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I could try working on it but i need someone to test it since i don't have a otg cable.
did root tab4 but never got otg running
Still looking to get otg going. I dumb assumed since my cell 4.4.2 ran it my tab 4 4.4.2 woukd also.
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Well I'll certainly be holding out on that slight chance for OTG support lol. I was really looking forward to using my tab 4 as a second display with DSLR Controller, so you can imagine my disappointment when it didn't work =/
Either way, if a dev ends up seeing this and wants to implement this feature, let me know if I can do anything help (beta testing custom kernels) or whatever, just let me know. I'm more than willing to help move this forward, even if it ends up not working.
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HI Osiris, do you got OTG work with Tab4? i'm in a similar situation with a Canon 70D & DSLR Controller...
In the page of DSLRController is a list to compatibility & models
best regards
i am willing to test the otg kernel i have a cable and a few different usb devices i would like to use with my wifi only
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I was curious if my Tab 4 has usb otg support. Turns out it did, even tho those usb otg checker apps said it didn't. I was able to open up the stuf on my usb stick. My model is SM-T330NU and i'm on 4.4.2
Also, it also supports external dac (Tested with Fiio E17) and it works with spotfiy. I'm starting to like this tablet even more .
I would like to buy this cable in order to use my Tab 4 to charge my Nexus 4. (Only need this on the road charging done when I'm on vacation, which is every 2-3 years, making buying a battery bank not worth it)
Would this cable work fine?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Micro-USB-Ma...323059?hash=item419dbd9ab3:g:h94AAOSwuWVWE0V1
Please note my main objective is not accessing USB keys or HDD's, but purely use the cable to charge my phone. Accessing a USB media storage would be a bonus.
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I was curious if my Tab 4 has usb otg support. Turns out it did, even tho those usb otg checker apps said it didn't. I was able to open up the stuf on my usb stick. My model is SM-T330NU and i'm on 4.4.2
Also, it also supports external dac (Tested with Fiio E17) and it works with spotfiy. I'm starting to like this tablet even more .
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Hi is that a 7" or an 8"? The 8 has otg but my 7 doesn't as standard. If it's a 7" how did you get it to work? Would LOVE to get OTG working on my tab4 7" as it's literally the only reason I bought it and didn't realise and (wrongly) assumed) it would have it.
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justin
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Hi is that a 7" or an 8"? The 8 has otg but my 7 doesn't as standard. If it's a 7" how did you get it to work? Would LOVE to get OTG working on my tab4 7" as it's literally the only reason I bought it and didn't realise and (wrongly) assumed) it would have it.
cheers
justin
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I got the 8 inch version.