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How us the ppi detail? Is 720p that good?
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It's amazing. There is some banding and I seem to have a stuck pixel though
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pachi72 said:
How us the ppi detail? Is 720p that good?
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Some slight banding in gradients, similar to SGS though not quite as bad. Personally I think the screen is GORGEOUS, and I would never be able to tell it was pentile without a magnifying glass, or comparing it side-by-side to a non-pentile display. The extra dpi makes up for it.
amazing !!! ( vivid colour, pop up, black is black )watched few tv shows 720p i downloaded last night and gonna watch some more tonight. love the big screen. ( never gonan go back to smaller than this one now)
Do we know if the resizing issue with wallpapers is going to be fixed in ics?
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That is the one thing that really ticks me off about Android devices. Unless it is the stock wallpaper you have to jump threw hoops to get it to size correctly on your screen. On Apple devices its as simple as 1 click. Why can't Android do that??
Unicorn tears. Steve soaked up all of them on the market.
its already solved. just use multipicture wallpaper from the market its free
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its already solved. just use multipicture wallpaper from the market its free
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That isn't solved. That's a workaround.
"Hey my headlight is out!" "Just tape a flashlight in there."
What's the "resizing issue" in the first place?
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What's the "resizing issue" in the first place?
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On HC devices, try setting an image as your wallpaper. Even if the image is really high-res, it only allows you to select a very small portion of the picture to use as a wallpaper. The end result is, your selection gets all blown-up and pixelated. It's nigh-impossible to get a good-looking, full-res wallpaper without using one of the stock wallpapers or a workaround.
What he said
Is this really a honeycomb issue or is it the form factor of the screen needing to have a wallpaper that fits portrait and landscape? I wonder how wallpaper selection is on the smaller galaxy tabs?
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Is this really a honeycomb issue or is it the form factor of the screen needing to have a wallpaper that fits portrait and landscape? I wonder how wallpaper selection is on the smaller galaxy tabs?
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If an image fits the screen, it fits. It shouldn't matter what way I'm holding it.
Until you rotate it. Then the image won't fit the screen.
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Until you rotate it. Then the image won't fit the screen.
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...Why does the image have to move when I rotate it?
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...Why does the image have to move when I rotate it?
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think about what you have said.
if you have a landscape picture then rotate ur screen to portrait youll get black bars top and bottom.
Landscape height = 800pixels
Portrait height = 1280 pixels
then youll start complaing why do i have black bars when my screen is in portrait mode -_-
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think about what you have said.
if you have a landscape picture then rotate ur screen to portrait youll get black bars top and bottom.
Landscape height = 800pixels
Portrait height = 1280 pixels
then youll start complaing why do i have black bars when my screen is in portrait mode -_-
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Actually his question is legit. Why the picture has to rotate? Let's say he wants to use a picture of a metal grid as the background, that picture doesn't really have to move or rotate (just like it happens on computers). There should be an option in the settings to allow this, I completely agree with him even if I doubt I'll use it very often.
...and if you want to have a nice landscape as a background picture?
You rotate your tab 180 and trees are growing upside down.
You guys do realize that this is not a bug or error.. It's a feature, the small portion you are referring to is the actual homescreen.. When you select a wallpaper it's a sort of cross. Why is it a cross? Well when you open the app drawer the wallpaper scrolls down to give another perspective.. So basicly, the horizontal bar of the cross is the actual wallpaper on the homescreen. The vertical bar is for scrolling up in the app drawer. If you don't want that move to another launcher, or set wallpaper scrolling to off.
lol @ feature.
Lets make sure the picture you want as a desktop....the thing most easily identifiable as customizing....the thing youve been doing with your desktop since windows 98....lets make sure we make it the biggest pain in the ass for you to change it to what you want.
Its ugly ,its stupid ,and useless.
All 3rd party apps door poor jobs of keeping the original res.
So AGAIN...does ICS fix this ? Anyone with half a brain or 15 seconds of Android use knows that a pain this is.
Simple Answer.
Sorry, but no.
It is not fixed yet,i hope it will be fixed in future.
I agree. It's very annoying, and needs to be fixed'
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if you resize your wallpaper to 1900x1408 (or is it 1900x1425?), and the wallpaper won't be stretched. You have to use larger images than the screen resolution because of the way the wallpaper scrolls.
Though I do have to say, my HP touchpad (running ICS) renders wallpapers much better than the galaxy tab does. It does have a different aspect ratio though
It struck me as a little odd that the display isn't 720p like the Galaxy Nexus, but in fact 1280x768. Especially with the on screen buttons which will use up some vertical pixels, I'm afraid that the display might almost seem not wide/tall enough. Is it just me?
vinay427 said:
It struck me as a little odd that the display isn't 720p like the Galaxy Nexus, but in fact 1280x768. Especially with the on screen buttons which will use up some vertical pixels, I'm afraid that the display might almost seem not wide/tall enough. Is it just me?
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Maybe because the screen is 4.7 inches vs. the Gnex which is 4.65?
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It struck me as a little odd that the display isn't 720p like the Galaxy Nexus, but in fact 1280x768. Especially with the on screen buttons which will use up some vertical pixels, I'm afraid that the display might almost seem not wide/tall enough. Is it just me?
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You realize 1280x768 is bigger than 720p (1280x720) right? As in, it will have more pixels than the Galaxy Nexus.
You will probably lose about 48px with the on-screen buttons, so it will actually be 1280x720
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Pixel density should actually be higher than the gs3, due to the screen being smaller, I'm pretty sure if you exclude the pixels taken by the on screen buttons, it's exactly 720p.
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You will probably lose about 48px with the on-screen buttons, so it will actually be 1280x720
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768 is the horizontal resolution
The physical buttons are almost always on the bottom.
if the bottom bars were 48 pixels you're subtract that from the vertical resolution.
1232x720 usable.
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768 is the horizontal resolution
The physical buttons are almost always on the bottom.
if the bottom bars were 48 pixels you're subtract that from the vertical resolution.
1232x720 usable.
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Except that in a full screen app, they'll disappear anyways, such as when you're watching a video, exactly like every other nexus device.
The nexus 4 PPI is higher (320 vs 316) however the big difference is that there are 33% fewer sub pixels in the pen tile display of the Galaxy Nexus. This is where you will see the difference, not in the additional 4 PPI.
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It actually is 720p. 1280x768. Nav bar = 48px. 768-48=720. 1280x720.
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It actually is 720p. 1280x768. Nav bar = 48px. 768-48=720. 1280x720.
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That's incorrect, it was already said in a previous post.
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768 is the horizontal resolution
The physical buttons are almost always on the bottom.
if the bottom bars were 48 pixels you're subtract that from the vertical resolution.
1232x720 usable.
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Although it'd be 1232x768.
Either way, I see it as an advantage. There's more screen real estate in the end, even if it's only an extra 48px in width. Assuming it's centered, when watching 720p video there will be a 24px gap above and below the video. Not that big of a deal. If it is, you could fit it to the screen so there isn't any wasted screen space.
Anyone who had a Galaxy Note like me would appreciate a nice 8:5 ratio screen with the extra pixels. 720p is a very loosely used term. Why complain when you get even higher resolution?
I wasn't complaining; just wondering if this would make a big difference in normal usage. The general consensus on the thread seems to be that although it will result in a 1232x768 resolution not counting the buttons, the only real "issue" will be small black bars when watching a 16:9 movie. Thanks guys!
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This is almost the only thing that bothers me: those buttons... I think this choice is really weird. Why don't they put normal buttons under the screen? Because of this choice, I feel there is a big black part down for nothing. It's ugly...
In addition, the buttons, are they automatically hidden in all applications? And when the Nexus is used with a TV, even the nav bar is displayed?
Yes and no. It hides when you're playing a movie, YouTube video, etc. regardless of whether it's hooked up to a TV, I believe.
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There are 1280pixels vertically.. However, the default navbar takes up 48 of those pixels.
So the screen is a bit wider allowing it to have 768 pixels (720+48)
So to make up for the on screen nav bars they have made the display a little wider.
The aspect ratio suffers though as it will not be perfectly 16:9
Okay. There seems to be some confusion here. Horizontal resolution defines a display's height (in pixels, not inches; and assuming all resolutions are defined in landscape). Vertical resolution defines a display's width. The assumption that the nav bar's 48 pixels effectively make it a 720p display is false. The nav bar subtracts from the display's vertical resolution, not it's horizontal; which makes it 1232x768. It does not make it 1280x720.
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The nav bar's 48 pixels change the display's aspect ratio from 5:3 to 77:48 (in landscape).
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You will probably lose about 48px with the on-screen buttons, so it will actually be 1280x720
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Exactly and isnt that the size of the navbar stock right 48px
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Exactly and isnt that the size of the navbar stock right 48px
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Read the post above yours. The 48px comes from the 1280, not the width which is 768. I think a mod should really delete all of the other posts except the one from @Mister_Mxyzptlk and close this thread because all it seems to be doing is causing confusion.
really who gives a ****, does your screen not look awesome?
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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yes it is...
every review say that One x's display is slightly better than LG one...so i made this question to htc forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33605612#post33605612
HTC isn't a screen manufacturer,so where they took the best display on the merket?
I thought the new LG display was absolutly the best one... :crying:
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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The LG Nexus 4 do not have capacitive buttons. Neither do it take up 15% of the space.
Google posted the spec themselves, they would not lie about it, that would result in a class action lawsuit.
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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The important detail is that when watching full screen videos, the buttons auto-hide and you can use that screen space.
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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Technically, 1280x720 is usable, the rest is used on the software keys
Not true, you took the value off the wrong dimension.
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Not true, you took the value off the wrong dimension.
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Oh, so I did, derp
Maybe 1200x768 then
The buttons take up 96 pixels vertically on the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming the same size, that leaves 768x1184 "usable" resolution at 4.45 inches.
so the screen is not 16:9 anymore...but 15:9 -->1280x768 pixels
so if we play a 720p video in landscape,we will have a black bar up or down the video?
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so the screen is not 16:9 anymore...but 15:9 -->1280x768 pixels
so if we play a 720p video in landscape,we will have a black bar up or down the video?
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No. The bar will disappear when watching videos.
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No. The bar will disappear when watching videos.
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i am not talking about the bar with 3 keys...
When will a company make a phone with on screen keys that don't take up screen real estate.
When you factor in the software keys the screen is closer to 4.4 inches.
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When will a company make a phone with on screen keys that don't take up screen real estate.
When you factor in the software keys the screen is closer to 4.4 inches.
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How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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Search for gnex fullscreen. There are several mods that let you hide soft navigation keys and replacce with gesture based navigation or something like the camera has in 4.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKNgoLbml-4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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With the Nexus 4 I would say put the onscreen keys in the bezel area. (Where the hard keys would go) It would make it a 5 inch screen in theory but at all times you would have the full 4.7 of screen real estate to use.
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With the Nexus 4 I would say put the onscreen keys in the bezel area. (Where the hard keys would go) It would make it a 5 inch screen in theory but at all times you would have the full 4.7 of screen real estate to use.
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So you want a bigger phone, thus giving you more real estate? Easy solution: buy a Galaxy Note II.
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So you want a bigger phone, thus giving you more real estate? Easy solution: buy a Galaxy Note II.
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no... im pretty sure he said he wanted a screen with a thinner bezel on the bottom so that with the on screen buttons, it looks only just bottom heavy (in terms of black)
There seem to be a lot of confusion about the screen size of this device due to google including the on screen menu buttons to the advertised screen size. I have made a lot of research on this topic and contacted several testers and here is the deal... Similarly to the Galaxy Nexus, the 4.7" full screen mode (without on screen menu keys) only activates when watching videos. No other apps such as games, gallery or browser support it. The external dimensions of the phone are those of any other 4.7" phone, but the usable screen never exceeds 4.45" due to the on screen keys always present, except for videos. 16:9 videos, due to the aspect ratio of the N4, will have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, and won't be truly full screen either, but with a better 4.6" diagonal... Note that if you happen to shoot photos or videos at native screen ratio you will then have black bars on each side of your TV. A mod was made available for rooted Gnex to hide the on screen buttons and use them only when needed. Without it, the N4 is a big phone with a small screen compared to the competition.
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The buttons take up 96 pixels vertically on the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming the same size, that leaves 768x1184 "usable" resolution at 4.45 inches.
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That's perfect! I think a study showed that the ideal screen size for the average hand is 4.5" and that's pretty darn close and just right under it!
The left over screen size is perfectly fine and the fact that the soft keys auto hide make it much more convenient when doing things such as watching videos. The size of the screen makes me a happy camper!
I've noticed when I connect the N10 to my LCD TV with native resolution of 1368x768 using a micro-HDMI to HDMI cable that the image doesn't stretch all the way to the edge of the display. Instead it leaves black bars on either side of probably 75-100 pixels. Does anyone else notice this?? Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to scale the display to fill the entire screen?
Doesn't fill my TV either, the issue, I guess is that it's mirroring so it won't change aspect, that may be different for videos but I haven't tried.
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I've noticed when I connect the N10 to my LCD TV with native resolution of 1368x768 using a micro-HDMI to HDMI cable that the image doesn't stretch all the way to the edge of the display. Instead it leaves black bars on either side of probably 75-100 pixels. Does anyone else notice this?? Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to scale the display to fill the entire screen?
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Only way to change the aspect ratio is through your TV. My 50in Philips LCD HD, has settings option to change the display view. Maybe in later firmware updates they may include HDMI options through the device.
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Yep, its the aspect ratio. TVs have standardized on 16:9. Android phones and 7" tablets are also 16:9, but since 10" tablets are meant to be held in landscape Google's set the standard to be 16:10 so the soft keys dont take too much of the display away from actual content.
Put in laymans terms, the Nexus has more height per width than your TV, so it either must use black bars, stretch, or crop. Black bars look the best of those options.
Good to know its not just me or my HDMI cable. If this issue is important to you to get resolved, please check out this link and star the issue. With enough votes Google might provide us more options to scale the mirrored output or select a custom resolution in a future release of Android.
It fills your screen when you watch a Movie or TV show though right?
So it is definitely possible for the Nexus to send the signal.