UPDATE: Nevermind. Seems as though I was told incorrectly by a certain Verizon store, they all thought you didn't have to be grandfathered in, but you do.
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Sorry for the truncated title there. Apparantely you can get unlimited mobile hotspot capability on your Verizon 4G LTE phone, but you're still limited to the 4GB-20GB standard data rate on the phone. How does that even work? Couldn't a simple loopback of some sort be created to make it seem as if you are using the hotspot instead of the "strictly mobile" data part of it? I've got the $30 4GB data plan, and I'll be getting the tethering unlimited $30 plan too. I would just simply like to use the unlimited side for both if at all possible... Got a rooted Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Anyone heard anything? Still searching the forums, so far nadda.
I haven't activated it yet because I don't want to start getting charged. Since the OS has a built in HotSpot feature, will Verizon charge me as if I was using their Mobile HotSpot App?
What plan do you have? The newest ones all come with free mobile Hotspot.
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I still have unlimited data.
As far as I am aware it will prompt you once you start it up or once you try to connect a device. Basically telling you this will add a monthly charge. I still have unlimited data and use FoxFi for tethering to get around this.
sage3 said:
As far as I am aware it will prompt you once you start it up or once you try to connect a device. Basically telling you this will add a monthly charge. I still have unlimited data and use FoxFi for tethering to get around this.
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Foxfi works great. Use it all the time with unlimited data.
I'm on with Verizon with no Hotspot plan and I can turn mine on on my phone with no issues as it's included with my plan.
"Will I be charged to use Mobile Hotspot?
Depending on your plan, you may be charged monthly to have the Mobile Hotspot feature on your account. Regardless of which plan you have, you'll be charged data usage according to your monthly data allowance.
Monthly Charges
If you have The Verizon Plan or The MORE Everything® Plan, Mobile Hotspot is included for no additional monthly charge. With other plans, you'll need to add Mobile Hotspot to your account and you'll be charged monthly to use Mobile Hotspot on your device.
Data Usage Charges
The data used by devices when they're connected to your Mobile Hotspot will be deducted from your monthly data allowance.
If you need to increase your data allowance due to additional data use through your Mobile Hotspot, you can do so any time on the Change Your Plan page in My Verizon. For more information, refer to our Understand and Change Your Plan FAQs.
A great way to thank someone for sharing their Mobile Hotspot with you is to buy them the gift of more data. Refer to our Data Gifting FAQs to learn about giving data as a gift."
You can't use the built-in hotspot with your unlimited data plan, it will tell you that you need to subscribe first. Downloading FoxFi however bypasses this and will allow you to tether without paying for the plan.
Looks like I might be buying Foxfi today
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Looks like I might be buying Foxfi today
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It's well worth it. I do miss my Nexus 6P and being able to use the native hotspot, as it's a bit of a pain to open FoxFi, then go to settings and toggle the hotspot, but at least it's something. I've been using it for a couple months with no issues.
People who have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and have an unlocked Nexus 6p can bypass Verizon's tethering restriction (ie tether without paying extra).
My question is for anyone who has an unlocked phone like the 6p and has the new Verizon Unlimited plan: can Verizon detect the 10GB of tethering then throw you to 3G? Or is it not detectable because there's no Verizon software on your phone?
In other words: is the 10GB tether limit detected locally on your phone or on Verizon's end?
I was actually wondering this exact same thing, if anyone happens to know.
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I just switched from grandfathered to the new unlimited. They cannot detect tethering at all as they do not have their software on the phone.
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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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By simply turning on the tethering option in settings.
And you're sure this prevents Verizon from seeing it?
I almost created a new thread asking this question, but then I saw my questions was already asked.
Can we confirm that the new 10gb tethering cap is undetectable on VZW Unlimited plan?
wow i was thinking about switching from tmobile unlimited cuz they be detecting me to bypass i use pdanet with cable to hide tether and it works 100%. But I wanted to make the switch to verizon unlimited it's just that I'm paying 50$ a month for unlimited tmobile
I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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It's probably phones from Verizon.
I tether with my 6P on 7.1.2 and have since I got it new with 6.x.
Verizon doesn't do what AT&T and other to do to detect tethering.
I have tethered all my phones for years without Verizon noticing..
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
I can tell you Verizon can and does detect tethering no matter the phone or plan.... But can't really stop it on the grandfathered unlimited plans. It's usually small fish to fry for them at this point. With their stance on 100gb a month or they cancel you has pretty much eliminated the big abusers (I pass No judgment as I just last week finally ditched my grandfathered udp). In the pixel they provided block after block if you were not an early purchaser and used depixel8 to unlock the bootloader from firewaterdevs. @ Jan 17 a Google update finally put a stop to depixel8 (it was after all a bootloader security flaw) and if you purchased a pixel from VZW that had been updated to 7.1.1 you were SOL. There have been some tricks to pop the sim card in and out to enable tethering but many were difficult and the timing had to be precise. I am/was a pixel owner..... Back to my N6p. Daughter got my wife's S7, she took my pixel since the 6p is too big for her liking.
While the pixel requires a bootloader unlock to root and enable tethering or install a custom ROM done for you already.... The 6p is VERY different from the pixel as far as it never being a Verizon issued phone as well as not having the split A/B partition (you'll all find out about that on your next upgrade) VZW is well aware of your tethering usage. Just a matter of making an issue out of it....which unless you are using it as your home wifi.......there are fewer and fewer grandfathered plans left to bother with.
I tethered while traveling with the kids and the largest data amount I ever tethered was 25gb. Usually more in the 10-12 range. I finally gave up the UDP because to add a phone for my kid (middle school now) it would have cost 30 more for data and I would have only gotten 2gb for her. With 3 lines on new "unlimited" I pay $15 less than I was paying. I'm not upgrading to the higher unlimited plan until I need to travel again. Right now I've seen zero difference in my service but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it. Honestly on a 5inch screen it's not a big deal to have dvd quality vs HD. Once my wife's contract ends in March from the S7 subsidized purchase 18 months ago we'll upgrade to the higher UDP with the 15gb tethering cap.
My only question is that 15gb per line tethering or per plan?
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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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Me as well (using pdanet), I have satellite internet as I am outside of City limits. Frustrating Verizon is regressing rather than progressing. Mainly due to greed.
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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I ditched my GUDP last month based on the info from this thread. I used over 30GB of tethering last month, and Verizon shows I used 0GB for tethering. I was excited until this month, as I just got a text that I hit 15GB of tethering and I'm throttled at 600kbs now. Something else I noticed is that when I log into my Verizon account, it shows I'm currently using a Huawei - H1511. If I remember correctly, Verizon couldn't recognize it was a Huawei phone on my account up until now.
Can anyone confirm if using PDA Net or ClockworkMod Tether works around this limitation? The free trials are too limited to fully test them out, and I don't want to purchase the paid version of the apps if I'll be stuck with the same tethering limitations of the stock hotspot.
Thanks!
Pda-Net works Via USB to PC, as for CWM I don't know.
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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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Ditto on this. I'm now really regretting having moved away from the grandfather plan.
Thank you all for posting, you’ve convinced me to keep gUDP. I am tethering in excess of 1TB per billing cycle. On contract of course. Now to extend the contract...
Found a fix!
I feel silly for not having found this sooner.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-free-wifi-tethering-android-marshmallow-0167832/
tldr;
add
Code:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
to your /system/build.prop file and reboot
Just tested with my new unlimited plan and can confirm I'm now back above the 600kbps mark!!
Lineage OS 14.1 on Axon 7
Edit: Nevermind. I'm not sure what I did the other day but I can't recreate this.
So I hit my 15gb hotspot tether limit on the new verizon " unlimited" plan , I then was limited to ~600kbps as described in the fine print , I however can confirm that if I connect pc via usb or wifi hotspot and place pc or other tethered device on a vpn such as Private internet access I am able to then able to get normal speed ~15mbs I also streamed youtube in 1440p for testing for ~10mins . I will test tonight with my 4k tv watching netflix and see if I can continue past the 22gb limit and still get UHD streaming . FYI im on ipad and iphone , host device does not seem to matter the trick is the device connected to the hotspot must be on a vpn that does not use split tunneling .
Hey guys, the OTA update hit my phone, but I haven't installed it yet. For those who have, does FoxFi tethering work? If I can't tether, then I'll be stuck on 6.0.1
Just downloaded and i can confirm it is not working as of yet.
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Id love to know how battery life is and this
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Based on what I read it pretty much never will work. It has to do with an exploit that was used to hijack a setting to get tethering to work.
Is there a way to prevent the phone from updating, or at least get rid of the nag screen?
me too....help
My kid and I both have S7, he unfortunately updated to Nougat. No foxfi for him. But we do have unlimited data, the new plan. Verizon is only carrier to give 10g of hot spot tethering, he uses it as if he still had foxfi. There are no overage charges. He games, Alot. No complaints.
The tethering on my phone has always worked never had to use foxfi just turn on the mobile hotspot and connect with whatever device you need connected I use this for online gaming on ps4 and youtube videos at night
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jolly_roger_hook said:
The tethering on my phone has always worked never had to use foxfi just turn on the mobile hotspot and connect with whatever device you need connected I use this for online gaming on ps4 and youtube videos at night
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I believe tethering is included when you have a tiered data plan. Those of us with an older grandfathered unlimited data plan, we needed FoxFi to tether to avoid the $30+- charge. Now Verizon requires us to select the new unlimited data plan (that throttles at 22gb) to even pay to use tethering.
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I believe tethering is included when you have a tiered data plan. Those of us with an older grandfathered unlimited data plan, we needed FoxFi to tether to avoid the $30+- charge. Now Verizon requires us to select the new unlimited data plan (that throttles at 22gb) to even pay to use tethering.
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It's not really throttled it just puts you second to lower data users on the same tower that you are connected to I guess I don't experience the slow down because of where I live but even in the big cities neer me I still get full speed but I understand being on the grandfathered plans I was too at one time then I got a family lol
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