I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?
moraleja39 said:
I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?
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my friend...its called capitalism.
moraleja39 said:
I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?
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Do you have VAT over there?
We don't have VAT in U.S.
Becaue you have been baddly rob---bbb---bbed by your goverment.
Okay but now seriously are there any helpful americans out there which would order them for us/me and we pay it.
Then you would send it as a gift and belive then we dont need to pay taxes or those stupid GEMA fees. atleast in Germany.
ollidiemaus said:
Okay but now seriously are there any helpful americans out there which would order them for us/me and we pay it.
Then you would send it as a gift and belive then we dont need to pay taxes or those stupid GEMA fees. atleast in Germany.
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I would consider doing this as long as I incur no charges at all.
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I would consider doing this as long as I incur no charges at all.
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Im currently investing into this afaik you wouldnt pay any taxes only me when i get it but they dont check all packages only some of them and then i would pay 17,5% in worst case. this is still less than the normal taxes with 19%.
But i read that the 6p usa version doesn't have the Lt band number 20 which is kinda important here in Germany need to look a little further into this.
How much taxes do oyu guys pay in America?
Taxes vary by state. I think most are around 6-8% these days. Couple of states don't have a sales tax.
you could also consider canada. but we have higher taxes (13% in my province), mine(64gb graphite) cost 846$ with taxe (571 euro).
I Have a pre-order on the 64gb graphite, but i'm considering buying a Sony Xpera Z5... so I don't know if I will sell my 6p
I would also be willing to help out fellow XDAers. I would want to do it through some kind of official channel however so i don't get scammed. I would be willing to post on e-bay for example with no mark up and let you buy it ( you would have to cover my e-bay costs however - so i don't know how it would all work out).
Freedom. That's why.
No taxes here in NH, so I paid $499 total for my 32GB. What's involved in shipping it internationally on our part? I'd hate to have to lie on forms and then get caught and charged some sort of fee.
I really dont know what the shipping fees are I dont even know which companys are shipping in the us.
And the Idea with ebay is kinda good i think then both sides would have some sort of security.
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Has anyone noticed people selling new Nexus One's on eBay for more money that google is selling them for? Really humerous that people would pay $650 for a Nexus One. I guess there is one born everyday.
youre forgetting that the people selling on ebay are shipping the phones out to people who live in areas google is not shipping to.
I noticed that as well right when people started getting their's and contemplated selling mine for the profit then repurchase it.....but I didn't.
Several of the ads say USA sales only; or USA, Canada, EU sales only.
As well, I am willing to bet money more than 1 person has bought one off eBay at those inflated prices that could have gotten it off Google just fine.
you know i'm thinking about buying a N1 try it out, and if i really really can't stand it resell it on ebay..
obviously not a light decision as there's still risk, and ebay fees that you have to consider
pjcforpres said:
Several of the ads say USA sales only; or USA, Canada, EU sales only.
As well, I am willing to bet money more than 1 person has bought one off eBay at those inflated prices that could have gotten it off Google just fine.
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yes that too. Some people will just try to scam money out of a person who did not do his research.
When the Playstation 3 first came out, it was being sold EASILY on ebay for over $1000!
if you notice, alot of bidders have 0 feedbacks. and lots of those are just scams.
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if you notice, alot of bidders have 0 feedbacks. and lots of those are just scams.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-GOOGL...ZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item1c0f3eb522
Not talking about auction items, talking about Buy It Now only listings like that one, where the price is $100 over googles, and unless you live in the lower 48, you gotta pay extra for shipping!
Just an FYI, that $650 price might be pushing it, but even then, anything under $650 if you include cashback rewards will be cheaper than google's price for some people because of tax and ebay cashback.
As of right now there is a total of 13% cash back if you know what you're doing. So for example, $650 minus 13% cashback is about $565.50 which would be cheaper for some people. $529 + TAX = $570+ for some people. $650 buy it now would be pushing it, but imagine if it were $600. Yea, to someone who didn't know any better, he might think OMG that's way overpriced, but $600 - 13% cashback is cheaper than $529 + TAX. Hell it's even cheaper than $529 with no tax.
Then you add in the people that have paypal coupons and you get the picture.
Here's my logic:
phone $530 +
USA tax (depends on State of your mailbox address) $0 to $53? +
USA mailbox $15 single use? +
USA to Canada shipping $30 and more (those sites don't want to take risks) +
Canada import fees, around $70 (phone NOT made in USA) +
USPS/UPS/FedEx brokerage fees $5 to $30 depends
If you want to take risks you can TRY to have the USA-forwarding company lower the value, so you save some import fees. A lot of them won't, because of the high volume of shipments they do.
With ebay sellers they are more likely to lower the declared value and even mark it as a gift if you ask. $659 shipped to Canada looks like a deal to me LOL....
melterx12 said:
yes that too. Some people will just try to scam money out of a person who did not do his research.
When the Playstation 3 first came out, it was being sold EASILY on ebay for over $1000!
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I got a grand each for a couple PS2's. People thought I was wrong for doing it, but hey, I waited overnight in upstate NY, towards the end of winter. My time and freezing cahones were worth a grand to me and obviously the guys that paid it. lol
Why are people purchasing Nexus ones for $650 on ebay when they could be purchasing it straight from google for $530?
Why are people doing this?
Is it out of sheer idiocracy?
Do they not realize where the sellers are getting these phone?
It's making me want to buy one from Google just to resell on ebay to make a $100 profit!
A fool and their money are easily parted.
Look at this,
it sold for almost $4k. I cannot believe this is real.
cgi .ebay .com /ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200431495643
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some of the bids are fake just to raise the price up to tempt buyers.
Mostly for customers in countries where Google isn't shipping to yet and for others without a credit card.
If you want to risk shipping a phone to Nigeria , go for it.
Be careful, a lot of scams going on especially in Nigeria!
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Is it out of sheer idiocy?
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FTFY.
And yes, I think some may be.. but as people said, probably a lot of scams, or people ordering overseas where Google isn't shipping yet...
Google is not shipping it where I live or study (Turkey/Bulgaria), so I bought one from eBay for $599.9 and I am happy with it. I am sure that there is so many "idiots" like me living on mother earth.
izmar said:
Look at this,
it sold for almost $4k. I cannot believe this is real.
cgi .ebay .com /ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200431495643
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according to the description, a lot of 5 (phones) were sold for about $750.00 each, totaling $3.8K. still a fairly steep price to pay.
I got mine for $760AUD ($680USD at the time) shipped via FedEx Express, from an eBay seller - simply because Google weren't accepting orders from Australia. Was happy to pay that much for a phone that wasn't even officially shipping to Aus yet - and I absoluetly love my phone.
Got mine for 599$, i think it's a fair price, since i cant buy it in Albania. I gambled a little with marking the shipment as 99$ so i didnt have to pay taxes.
Remember its not actually $530 from google. Its $530 plus vat and/or duty.
That means a phone to the UK for example would be $530 * 1.175 = $622.
If u then resold that phone to someone in europe u'd only be making about $30 for the trouble, minus shipping, exchange rate, paypal/ebay fees and taking a chance that his payment doesnt get retracted.
Even if you ship it to the US and reship you still need to add sales tax, and more expensive shipping. In actual fact $650 isnt too bad a price at all. Anything more is kinda stupid, especially considering how many peole are doing it now.
Having said that, ff you cant get it shipped to youre country you're better off using something like demailbox.com
They give you a virtual mailbox in the US, and reship it to you. Since they're based in delaware there's no US tax in that state, and free shipping to them because its in the US. That means you only pay the google price + reshipping to your country + the demailbox fee.
Just found this deal. Unlocked for $599, best price I have found. Anyone dealt with this place before?
http://electroprise.com/samsung-galaxy-note-gt-n7000-gsm-hsdpa-quadband-unlocked-p-2911.html
Be careful...they use to be called "Exoticphones.com"
I'd be careful too...
How can they offer a discount with an ATT plan????
Seems suspicious to me...but good luck if you go with it!
Im only guessing here but I bet a phone vendor could sign you up for ATT with any phone, like an iPhone. Then turn around and sell that iPhone at retail to another person. But give you the 2 year discount on the Note.
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Im only guessing here but I bet a phone vendor could sign you up for ATT with any phone, like an iPhone. Then turn around and sell that iPhone at retail to another person. But give you the 2 year discount on the Note.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Vendor signs you up for a new 2 year contract with at&t. They choose iphone 4s as your new phone. They keep the 4s and sell it for like $600 bucks. They are then able to offer you the note for $599
I would cut the middle man out and just do it yourself if you don't already have an at&t contract or are not in upgrade status.
Just odered with overnight shipping. Will let you guys know how it goes. Im beyond excited!
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sprintuser1977 said:
Just odered with overnight shipping. Will let you guys know how it goes. Im beyond excited!
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Did you order for $599, or did you do the contract? If legit, the contract is very tempting.
dscline said:
Did you order for $599, or did you do the contract? If legit, the contract is very tempting.
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The contract is only $200 cheaper. If you instead extend your contract with buying an iphone 4s, you'll come out far ahead. You'll pay $200 (instead of $400) and you can sell it on ebay for $600 at least then use that money for the Note. So in effect the iphone route is at least $200 cheaper for the same end result. That is assuming this is legit, and ignoring ebay fees (use craigslist.)
"If it seems too good to be true..."
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/ExoticPhone_GSM_International_Inc
I also just called them up. I work in NYC and they seem to offer local pickup, so what better way to see if they actually have it in stock then to walk over there...The person that answered said it was out of stock and due back in, in about 2 weeks.
When I pressed for a more specific date, he just said he wasn't sure, but about 2 weeks.
...All kinds of red flags here.
maxh said:
The contract is only $200 cheaper. If you instead extend your contract with buying an iphone 4s, you'll come out far ahead. You'll pay $200 (instead of $400) and you can sell it on ebay for $600 at least then use that money for the Note.
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Thanks. I was partially looking at it as a convenience issue (not having to deal with reselling, no fees, no uncertainty of what it ultimately sells for), but you're right, $200, or even $100, is a big chunk for convenience. But ultimately, it's not very convenient if "electropirise" screws you over.
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... so what better way to see if they actually have it in stock then to walk over there...
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Thanks for doing that, good to get some insight before blindly trusting them.
only $95 more on expansys-usa if you use promo code BFNOTE. then you dont have a contract to deal with either. it also ships from the us
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=n0thingr3mains;19925414]only $95 more on expansys-usa if you use promo code BFNOTE. then you dont have a contract to deal with either. it also ships from the us
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So its $494 on there without a contract?
is $399.00 with a contract. so add 95 to that?
What you posted makes no sense, but i know what you were trying to say.
You want people to pay 95 more full price compared to the full price on that other site in the OP
Wait, that also makes no sense
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=n0thingr3mains;19925414]only $95 more on expansys-usa if you use promo code BFNOTE. then you dont have a contract to deal with either. it also ships from the us
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So its $494 on there without a contract?
is $399.00 with a contract. so add 95 to that?
What you posted makes no sense, but i know what you were trying to say.
You want people to pay 95 more full price compared to the full price on that other site in the OP
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nevermind...thought it was $599 with the contract. now I see its $399 with the contract. that does sound like a good deal then if the site is legit.
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only $95 more on expansys-usa if you use promo code BFNOTE. then you dont have a contract to deal with either. it also ships from the us
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This is a pretty good deal -- except no way to get warranty. Expansys USA has a great reputation on resellerratings.com.
Will probably get mine thru ebay so I can get a SquareTrade warranty.
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only $95 more on expansys-usa if you use promo code BFNOTE. then you dont have a contract to deal with either. it also ships from the us
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Wow total came out to be $694.99 not too shabby! Thanks for the code!!!
Watching this thread since I wouldn't advice anyone to order anything from that website and I'm really curious to see if they will deliver.
There's another thread discussing the website that OP bought the phone. Always use the search button.
Just wanted to make everyone aware that Amazon is selling Notes for $660 shipped. That is the cheapest I've seen ANYWHERE on the web. I picked one up today through amazon, fulfilled by the oem shop.
Hopefully I'll get a new unit that hasn't been opened.
Yesasia.com has it about $650. I only bought small things from the site,yet I feel it does business alright.
inurb said:
Just wanted to make everyone aware that Amazon is selling Notes for $660 shipped. That is the cheapest I've seen ANYWHERE on the web. I picked one up today through amazon, fulfilled by the oem shop.
Hopefully I'll get a new unit that hasn't been opened.
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I got one today and already received tracking with it delivered Thursday ... it was transformersandgsmphones on Amazon. Paid $669 with 2 day shipping. Not bad!
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OP, did you get it?
Anyone know if the OP got his Note next day, or at all?
Dang, Expansys-USA is up to a whopping $779.99 for theirs.
Okay I think I've been reading around a bit too much, and I'm pretty confused about the taxes now.
I live in India and I want to get this phone from the US, either by ordering it online and paying customs + shipping, or by getting it through a relative who stays in the US.
Now I have a couple of questions.
1 - If someone from the US buys it from the google play store, does he have to pay any tax? Or is the $349 inclusive of all taxes?
2 - Does anyone know what the charges for customs are? Suppose my relative is getting about three phones, I'm assuming he has to declare the items. So how much tax and duties does he have to pay for them?
3 - Are there any other hidden costs that I should look out for?
Mohit12 said:
Okay I think I've been reading around a bit too much, and I'm pretty confused about the taxes now.
I live in India and I want to get this phone from the US, either by ordering it online and paying customs + shipping, or by getting it through a relative who stays in the US.
Now I have a couple of questions.
1 - If someone from the US buys it from the google play store, does he have to pay any tax? Or is the $349 inclusive of all taxes?
2 - Does anyone know what the charges for customs are? Suppose my relative is getting about three phones, I'm assuming he has to declare the items. So how much tax and duties does he have to pay for them?
3 - Are there any other hidden costs that I should look out for?
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1. The 349 doesn't include sales tax. Wherever you are shipping the phone to you have to pay extra for the sales tax. I got charged local tax rate, so it depends on where you ship it.
2. No idea. You should ask India Customs. In China we usually don't declare it because we are paying 100% which is ridiculous.
3. Yes. You pay for shipping. It's 10.5 for UPS two-day shipping. In total I paid ~33 for shipping and tax.
So in the US you are looking at paying 359.5 + whatever tax that is.
Refer to this for all the details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963554
Hint look for my posts.
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Mohit12 said:
Okay I think I've been reading around a bit too much, and I'm pretty confused about the taxes now.
I live in India and I want to get this phone from the US, either by ordering it online and paying customs + shipping, or by getting it through a relative who stays in the US.
Now I have a couple of questions.
1 - If someone from the US buys it from the google play store, does he have to pay any tax? Or is the $349 inclusive of all taxes?
2 - Does anyone know what the charges for customs are? Suppose my relative is getting about three phones, I'm assuming he has to declare the items. So how much tax and duties does he have to pay for them?
3 - Are there any other hidden costs that I should look out for?
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1. Taxes are extra. Depending on where the person stays in the US, it might be around 390. Prices are never inclusive of taxes because they are location dependent.
2. He 'technically' has to declare them. However, he can carry two phones with him for personal use (like in the carry on) and another one in the check in. Most of the time they just let you go without paying anything. Then again, it depends on how well you are with your words Remember, its India we are talking about.
3. 349+Taxes is all you pay. No other costs.
Just having a look on the Oneplus sites for USA and Europe and the pricing has me scratching my head.
For the exact same product (e.g. 8GB - 128gb) EU Customers are paying €70 more when currency conversions are done.
Am I reading too much into this, does economic growth come into this?, I can't see that as being the cause, or are EU People paying too much for the very same phone, or is there another reason?
I dont know, but do USA prices already include taxes? I think i read somewhere that it didnt, because taxes work different on the USA depending on the state you live?
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I dont know, but do USA prices already include taxes? I think i read somewhere that it didnt, because taxes work different on the USA depending on the state you live?
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There is no tax if you buy from OnePlus.com directly
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There is no tax if you buy from OnePlus.com directly
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Not applied to the phurcase, but doesn't it "add" to your system taxation or something and you've to pay it later somehow? If not... yeah pricing is weird than
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Not applied to the phurcase, but doesn't it "add" to your system taxation or something and you've to pay it later somehow? If not... yeah pricing is weird than
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No, you don't pay tax at all if you buy from OnePlus.com at least that's how it was until OnePlus 6...
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Not applied to the phurcase, but doesn't it "add" to your system taxation or something and you've to pay it later somehow? If not... yeah pricing is weird than
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No, you don't pay tax at all if you buy from OnePlus.com at least that's how it was until OnePlus 6...
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But you are required by state law to pay those taxes when you do your tax calculations at the end of the year. This is not always enforced, unless you are making a large amount of un-taxed purchases which then opens yourself to audit if not paid.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/9sqyjn/why_is_the_oneplus_6t_so_much_more_expensive_for/
US prices almost never show the tax. That's because tax is dependent on where you live or where you purchase the product. Shipping items to my house gets taxed at 4.5% but if I were to walk three minutes to a neighbor they are taxed at 7%. If I go to a Best Buy that is a two minute car drive away it gets jacked to 7.8%. Each city or county adds their own taxes so having to display that on a web page would be complicated. We don't have a VAT.