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Has anyone noticed people selling new Nexus One's on eBay for more money that google is selling them for? Really humerous that people would pay $650 for a Nexus One. I guess there is one born everyday.

youre forgetting that the people selling on ebay are shipping the phones out to people who live in areas google is not shipping to.

I noticed that as well right when people started getting their's and contemplated selling mine for the profit then repurchase it.....but I didn't.

Several of the ads say USA sales only; or USA, Canada, EU sales only.
As well, I am willing to bet money more than 1 person has bought one off eBay at those inflated prices that could have gotten it off Google just fine.

you know i'm thinking about buying a N1 try it out, and if i really really can't stand it resell it on ebay..
obviously not a light decision as there's still risk, and ebay fees that you have to consider

pjcforpres said:
Several of the ads say USA sales only; or USA, Canada, EU sales only.
As well, I am willing to bet money more than 1 person has bought one off eBay at those inflated prices that could have gotten it off Google just fine.
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yes that too. Some people will just try to scam money out of a person who did not do his research.
When the Playstation 3 first came out, it was being sold EASILY on ebay for over $1000!

if you notice, alot of bidders have 0 feedbacks. and lots of those are just scams.

kolyan said:
if you notice, alot of bidders have 0 feedbacks. and lots of those are just scams.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-GOOGL...ZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item1c0f3eb522
Not talking about auction items, talking about Buy It Now only listings like that one, where the price is $100 over googles, and unless you live in the lower 48, you gotta pay extra for shipping!

Just an FYI, that $650 price might be pushing it, but even then, anything under $650 if you include cashback rewards will be cheaper than google's price for some people because of tax and ebay cashback.
As of right now there is a total of 13% cash back if you know what you're doing. So for example, $650 minus 13% cashback is about $565.50 which would be cheaper for some people. $529 + TAX = $570+ for some people. $650 buy it now would be pushing it, but imagine if it were $600. Yea, to someone who didn't know any better, he might think OMG that's way overpriced, but $600 - 13% cashback is cheaper than $529 + TAX. Hell it's even cheaper than $529 with no tax.
Then you add in the people that have paypal coupons and you get the picture.

Here's my logic:
phone $530 +
USA tax (depends on State of your mailbox address) $0 to $53? +
USA mailbox $15 single use? +
USA to Canada shipping $30 and more (those sites don't want to take risks) +
Canada import fees, around $70 (phone NOT made in USA) +
USPS/UPS/FedEx brokerage fees $5 to $30 depends
If you want to take risks you can TRY to have the USA-forwarding company lower the value, so you save some import fees. A lot of them won't, because of the high volume of shipments they do.
With ebay sellers they are more likely to lower the declared value and even mark it as a gift if you ask. $659 shipped to Canada looks like a deal to me LOL....

melterx12 said:
yes that too. Some people will just try to scam money out of a person who did not do his research.
When the Playstation 3 first came out, it was being sold EASILY on ebay for over $1000!
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I got a grand each for a couple PS2's. People thought I was wrong for doing it, but hey, I waited overnight in upstate NY, towards the end of winter. My time and freezing cahones were worth a grand to me and obviously the guys that paid it. lol

Nexus Ones, selling for $650+ ON EBAY!?

Why are people purchasing Nexus ones for $650 on ebay when they could be purchasing it straight from google for $530?
Why are people doing this?
Is it out of sheer idiocracy?
Do they not realize where the sellers are getting these phone?
It's making me want to buy one from Google just to resell on ebay to make a $100 profit!

A fool and their money are easily parted.

Look at this,
it sold for almost $4k. I cannot believe this is real.
cgi .ebay .com /ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200431495643
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some of the bids are fake just to raise the price up to tempt buyers.

Mostly for customers in countries where Google isn't shipping to yet and for others without a credit card.
If you want to risk shipping a phone to Nigeria , go for it.

Be careful, a lot of scams going on especially in Nigeria!

izmar said:
Is it out of sheer idiocy?
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FTFY.
And yes, I think some may be.. but as people said, probably a lot of scams, or people ordering overseas where Google isn't shipping yet...

Google is not shipping it where I live or study (Turkey/Bulgaria), so I bought one from eBay for $599.9 and I am happy with it. I am sure that there is so many "idiots" like me living on mother earth.

izmar said:
Look at this,
it sold for almost $4k. I cannot believe this is real.
cgi .ebay .com /ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200431495643
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according to the description, a lot of 5 (phones) were sold for about $750.00 each, totaling $3.8K. still a fairly steep price to pay.

I got mine for $760AUD ($680USD at the time) shipped via FedEx Express, from an eBay seller - simply because Google weren't accepting orders from Australia. Was happy to pay that much for a phone that wasn't even officially shipping to Aus yet - and I absoluetly love my phone.

Got mine for 599$, i think it's a fair price, since i cant buy it in Albania. I gambled a little with marking the shipment as 99$ so i didnt have to pay taxes.

Remember its not actually $530 from google. Its $530 plus vat and/or duty.
That means a phone to the UK for example would be $530 * 1.175 = $622.
If u then resold that phone to someone in europe u'd only be making about $30 for the trouble, minus shipping, exchange rate, paypal/ebay fees and taking a chance that his payment doesnt get retracted.
Even if you ship it to the US and reship you still need to add sales tax, and more expensive shipping. In actual fact $650 isnt too bad a price at all. Anything more is kinda stupid, especially considering how many peole are doing it now.
Having said that, ff you cant get it shipped to youre country you're better off using something like demailbox.com
They give you a virtual mailbox in the US, and reship it to you. Since they're based in delaware there's no US tax in that state, and free shipping to them because its in the US. That means you only pay the google price + reshipping to your country + the demailbox fee.

Nexus One Sales Tax!!

We’re writing in regards to your recent Nexus One purchase. There was an issue with the way the sales tax was applied to your order. When your order was placed, you paid taxes on the full retail price of the phone. However, you should have only been charged taxes on the sales price of the phone. We apologize for this issue and wanted to let you know that Google will issue a partial refund for the difference in the amount of taxes you were charged.
The refund will be issued to the debit/credit card used to complete the original purchase. To verify which card will receive the refund, please sign in to your Google Checkout account at https://checkout.google.com and click ‘View order’. The payment information for the order will be listed at the bottom of the order receipt.
If the debit/credit card used to complete your purchase has been closed, your card-issuing bank should forward these funds to your new account or mail a check to you for the amount of the refund.
If you have any questions about the refund, or if you need further assistance, please reply to this email and we’ll be happy to help.
Sincerely,
The Nexus One Team
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
You've received this mandatory service announcement email to update you about important changes to your Nexus One order.
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sooo google charged extra for sales tax;; who else got this email?

I do, can't wait cause i'm broke!!!
Apple would never do something like this, thanks for being so honest Google

well i just calculated it
these are my numbers
8.875% = NYC Sales Tax
529.00 = RETAIL Price
-250.00 = Discount
8.875% of (529.00 - 250.00) = $24.76125
not much of a refund i guess but its good they are being honest...

I got the same email today too

Do you guys live in states with a sales tax?
I got mine forwarded to AUS via oregon, which i don't believe has sales tax. I did not pay any import tax, So i am assuming that at no point did i pay tax for the phone, would that be right? or do they put tax on at the time of purchase?

I paid full price...529 + 46 nys tax.
Im assuming i dont apply.

A friend of mine and I both got that email today as well.

i presume this is for US only? not UK?
thanks

so, this doesn't apply to the people that bought it at full price or does it? i didn't get an email yet...

Got that email yesterday as well. I guess we were too excited to actually check the sales tax we paid?

I looked at the sales tax I paid through google checkout, and then cross referenced that through my bank account, and I paid the correct ammount. Hmmmmm, maybe a global refund of the 20+ dollars?

t0mmy said:
so, this doesn't apply to the people that bought it at full price or does it? i didn't get an email yet...
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It wouldn't apply because you paid the correct sales tax. Google was taxing for the full price when people were buying at the subsidized price.

Not in California ???

YES! 14 dollar refund?!?!?! Thats fine by me

Hmm.. I wonder why I haven't received this email. I just checked my google checkout receipt and it looks like I paid full tax amount on subsidized price too lol. I wondered why tax was so much but I was too excited to think more of it haha.

I get my Google phones for free, so nope! *sticks out tongue*

EdwardUong said:
Not in California ???
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Nope, even buying subsidized from a retail store (in california) they still charge you sales tax on the full price of the phone.. So no refund..

swgbex said:
Nope, even buying subsidized from a retail store (in california) they still charge you sales tax on the full price of the phone.. So no refund..
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Aww dammit. That's not cool. I was juiced about a reimbursement too. Guess I can kiss that goodbye

They should refund me the price difference between the touchscreen they used and a legitimate touch screen.

[Q] Best Buy - Sales Tax

I'm not sure how sales tax works in the USA, but with Best Buy do you pay the same sales tax in store and online (for pickup at that store)? The store I am thinking of is EVERETT MA, 162 SANTILLI HWY.

Yes. It'll be the same tax either way
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Sales tax is the precise reason (or at least large part) why I decided to purchase my 32GB grey GT10.1 from Amazon and not Best Buy. Well, in full disclosure I decided to take my business to Amazon because I purchased a presale on the GT10.1 from Best Buy and the store GM guarenteed me I would have it on June 17. Low and behold come June 17 at around 7:00p I walked in to pick it up and they said "ooops, sorry but we do not have it yet and no, we have no way of telling when they will arrive." (Okay, I'm done ranting now).
Anyways I decided to go with Amazon because there was no sales tax and they guarenteed I would get it in 1 day with the 1 day shipping option. Sure enough my GT10.1 arrived 1 day later and the beauty of it is, the fastest shipping option from Amazon (1 day) was HALF the price of the sales tax I would have paid at Best Buy. Sales tax would have racked out at $45.43 and the 1 day shipping option from Amazon was $19.
Simple math, simple decision. That and I would MUCH rather give my business to a company that will actually follow through on their promise. Thank you Amazon.
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I would rather pay the sales tax which in this case is $37.50 as I have the option of returning it to the store if there is anything wrong with it. The tablet is being brought back to the UK for me next week so I need the quick turn around, rather than having to post it back to Amazon etc.

RnFstRuckHrd said:
Simple math, simple decision. That and I would MUCH rather give my business to a company that will actually follow through on their promise. Thank you Amazon.
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Yeah, tax is the reason I ordered mine online...of course, I'm sitting here without my Tab right now because I had to return it and get another one.

I just spoke to Best Buy in the USA, and apparently they have international warranty, so their UK branches will cover any devices that go wrong. I wonder if this is actually true...

rjohmit said:
Yeah, tax is the reason I ordered mine online...of course, I'm sitting here without my Tab right now because I had to return it and get another one.
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Why?
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yes I use to think that way also. But if you have problems and need to return if for what ever reasons. Then it's a problem.

Hello everyone. I'm about to buy the galaxy tab and was also deciding to pay the Best Buy tax or not. I noticed everyone said they didn't pay tax on Amazon but I am being charged $44. Could this be because I live in NYC? I noticed Newegg doesn't charge tax. Has anyone purchased their tab from them? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind, I just googled Amazon's tax page and NY is subject to tax. Guess I'll buy it in Best Buy.

hshah said:
I just spoke to Best Buy in the USA, and apparently they have international warranty, so their UK branches will cover any devices that go wrong. I wonder if this is actually true...
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Err, better read the fine print on that "supposed" international warranty, as there's nowhere it stipulates that you can walk into a bestbuy say in the U.K or BestBuy Canada for example and they'll service it. Doesn't work that way.
The so called international warranty the sales person is salivating to sell you (also known as Geek Squad Black Tie Protection, GSBTP) is a REIMBURSEMENT PLAN, insured by an insurance company. YOU Re responsible for having it repaired at your cost and then contacting a 1-800-number to file a claim. Either mail or fax your paperwork over and you are then REIMBURSED for "qualified" repairs. Accidental or physical damages are not available for "international plans", so even if you're suckered into buying the plan, at least don't let them upsell you on the extra accidental damage protection.
How do I know all this? Used to work there at a store located in a high tourist area and used to weep inside at the foreigners suckered into "international warranties" that were all but useless, even on some products that CAME with worldwide warranties like some Asus laptops, Olympus and Casio cameras and so forth. I still know all the tricks and trade secrets.
Sad really.

lyun said:
Hello everyone. I'm about to buy the galaxy tab and was also deciding to pay the Best Buy tax or not. I noticed everyone said they didn't pay tax on Amazon but I am being charged $44. Could this be because I live in NYC? I noticed Newegg doesn't charge tax. Has anyone purchased their tab from them? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind, I just googled Amazon's tax page and NY is subject to tax. Guess I'll buy it in Best Buy.
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I think this should help you decide. This is from Amazon Q&A.
The amount of tax charged depends upon many factors, including the identity of the seller, the type of item purchased, and the destination of the shipment.
Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax.
For sales tax purposes, electronically delivered products (e-books, e-documents, and electronically delivered software) are considered to be shipped to your credit card billing address.
No sales tax is charged when purchasing gift cards; however, purchases paid for with gift cards may be subject to tax.

Let me help you out a bit. If a store/retailer has a physical presence in a state it must charge sales tax so since best buy/ walmart etc have physical stores and shipping facilities in almost every state they have to charge sales tax online and at the store. With this rule online stores like newegg and amazon get away with not charging tax in states other then the ones they operate in. For example amazon has a large shipping and distribution center in Kentucky so it must charge taxes in that state.

How 499$ are 649€?

I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?

moraleja39 said:
I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?
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my friend...its called capitalism.

moraleja39 said:
I am aware of all of the taxes and impediments that the EU puts on this kind of things, but this huge price difference came totally unexpected to me. The cheapest Nexus 6P will cost 730 US$ in Europe? That is pretty disappointing. Besides, at this moment the Nexus 6 costs 499$ on the US store, and 459€ on my local one. Why did they got the dollar to euro conversion right on the 6 and so terribly wrong on 6P?
Anyone has any idea to circumvent this blatant stickup? Is it possible to buy it from a foreign Google Store? Maybe it will be on sale on Amazon or whatsoever?
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Do you have VAT over there?
We don't have VAT in U.S.

Becaue you have been baddly rob---bbb---bbed by your goverment.

Okay but now seriously are there any helpful americans out there which would order them for us/me and we pay it.
Then you would send it as a gift and belive then we dont need to pay taxes or those stupid GEMA fees. atleast in Germany.

ollidiemaus said:
Okay but now seriously are there any helpful americans out there which would order them for us/me and we pay it.
Then you would send it as a gift and belive then we dont need to pay taxes or those stupid GEMA fees. atleast in Germany.
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I would consider doing this as long as I incur no charges at all.
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I would consider doing this as long as I incur no charges at all.
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Im currently investing into this afaik you wouldnt pay any taxes only me when i get it but they dont check all packages only some of them and then i would pay 17,5% in worst case. this is still less than the normal taxes with 19%.
But i read that the 6p usa version doesn't have the Lt band number 20 which is kinda important here in Germany need to look a little further into this.
How much taxes do oyu guys pay in America?

Taxes vary by state. I think most are around 6-8% these days. Couple of states don't have a sales tax.

you could also consider canada. but we have higher taxes (13% in my province), mine(64gb graphite) cost 846$ with taxe (571 euro).
I Have a pre-order on the 64gb graphite, but i'm considering buying a Sony Xpera Z5... so I don't know if I will sell my 6p

I would also be willing to help out fellow XDAers. I would want to do it through some kind of official channel however so i don't get scammed. I would be willing to post on e-bay for example with no mark up and let you buy it ( you would have to cover my e-bay costs however - so i don't know how it would all work out).

Freedom. That's why.

No taxes here in NH, so I paid $499 total for my 32GB. What's involved in shipping it internationally on our part? I'd hate to have to lie on forms and then get caught and charged some sort of fee.

I really dont know what the shipping fees are I dont even know which companys are shipping in the us.
And the Idea with ebay is kinda good i think then both sides would have some sort of security.