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Nexus One vs. iPhone (CNET Prizefight)

It has happened, the iPhone FINALLY loses a prizefight.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/nexus-one-vs-iphone-3gs/9742-1_53-50083136.html

Android Touch said:
It has happened, the iPhone FINALLY loses a prizefight.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/nexus-one-vs-iphone-3gs/9742-1_53-50083136.html
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I had to watch that with no sound... damn work computer... I wanted to see the ratings though. Did the Nexus One have the multi-touch update? I would assume no. And I am also assuming that would go a long way in helping out on a couple of those 4.0 scores.

They did not include the new MT support. Time for a rematch!

pjcforpres said:
I had to watch that with no sound... damn work computer... I wanted to see the ratings though. Did the Nexus One have the multi-touch update? I would assume no. And I am also assuming that would go a long way in helping out on a couple of those 4.0 scores.
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Nope, and yeah it definately would.

Still no tv out?

Has anyone been able to enable tv out on the epic 4G like the other galaxy s phones have?
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mormegil83 said:
Has anyone been able to enable tv out on the epic 4G like the other galaxy s phones have?
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I hear you. I bought the Nokia cable before I found out TV out was missing from the menu. Doesn't any of these ROMs bring it back. I have yet to flash but I was going to do
Tayutama 1.1 w/ Voodoo Lag fix Beta 4

Bump. Anyone?
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mormegil83 said:
Bump. Anyone?
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There is another thread about this I found. Search for it. Anyway, it seems that the issue is Touchwiz 2.5. SO...we have to wait until Froyo comes out with TW3.0 and THEN see if the TV out is available. All of the other SGS phones that have it are TW 3.0.
But I'm with you man.

ZenInsight said:
There is another thread about this I found. Search for it. Anyway, it seems that the issue is Touchwiz 2.5. SO...we have to wait until Froyo comes out with TW3.0 and THEN see if the TV out is available. All of the other SGS phones that have it are TW 3.0.
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This is partially true, but not totally true.
When people talk about TV out, it's helpful if they define how they wish to get TV out.
All four US Galaxy S series phones support DLNA, which is why Samsung claims TV out features for their phones. But that's now what most folks would consider TV out...
Only the GSM phones have TV out via the 3.5mm output.
So to say that this is a TW 3.0 issue, would be inaccurate. The Fascinate has TW3.0 and does not support TV out via the 3.5mm port. I read a post somewhere that described the CDMA chip not being able to work with the 3.5mm out port, but I haven't been able to find it. I thought it was BS at the time so I ignored it, but now that the Fascinate is out and the 3.5mm port does not support TV out, I'm trying desperately to find it to double check the specs.
That leaves TV out via the microUSB port. Samsung's website was offering (they still might be) an HDMI cable that worked via the microUSB port and specifically listed the Galaxy S series (including the Fascinate, Captivate, Vibrant and Epic by name) however, nobody has been able to get it to work.
And thuse we're left with the speculation that TV out via the MicroUSB might be a Froyo addition, but not necessarily something that might be part of TW3.0 independently.

I found the post. Here you go:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/132687-no-tv-out-sprint-epic-2.html#post1932751
CzechPleez said:
Hi, I'm a Sprint employee and Epic owner. Having worked with the Samsung developers a little I can tell you with assurance that the TV Out option was not "disabled" by Sprint's choice. It's a h/w limitation. When you first boot the phone you get an auto update which appears to disable the TV Out option, but I think that's a mandatory because the shipping ROM is universal to domestic carriers from Samsung. The TV Out limitation is due to the CDMA SOC (system on chip), which will be true for the Verizon model coming soon. The Galaxy S devices based on the GSM SOC do have the TV Out option.
DLNA is the only option for displaying multimedia on a remote display, but keep in mind you are limited to self-created content. You can't broadcast YouTube or SprintTV across DLNA as the DRM encryption is not supported on either the Epic or any remote device.
We're glad you're a Sprint customer and hope you remain happy with your Epic!
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vansmack said:
I found the post. Here you go:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/132687-no-tv-out-sprint-epic-2.html#post1932751
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WTF! Are you kidding me? This is absolutely terrible news. I'm really disappointing if this is true.

Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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WTF! Are you kidding me? This is absolutely terrible news. I'm really disappointing if this is true.
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itsmebryan said:
Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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Because composite out allows anything on the screen to appear on tv.....any tv. Every tv has rca's. Not every one has hdmi. And I don't want hdcp and hdmi drm restrictions. Good enough reason?

I'm sad and my dreams are dashed.

itsmebryan said:
Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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Because you cannot share your self-recorded Movies through every DLNA device. PS3 and the Xbox both do not support our 3gp HD movie format.
I would like to visit my mother's house and be able to plug into her TV and show her the recordings of her granddaughters and other self-recorded video but I will be unable to do so without expensive extra hardware.

Well, don't shoot the messenger - I simply pay attention.
And second, RCA jacks are so 1990's I don't really care if they don't support them. This is a top of the line phone, so I'm glad if they sacrificed somewhere that they sacrificed 1990s technology.
That being said, don't give me HDMI out with the Froyo update and, well I'll have a CDMI issue. Good thing I'm on Sprint with 4G and not Verizon where I'd be really screwed. No 4G, no TV out, nothing to justify my costs, really...

kennethlongshaw said:
I'm sad and my dreams are dashed.
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Don't give up till froyo is out.

ZenInsight said:
Because composite out allows anything on the screen to appear on tv.....any tv. Every tv has rca's. Not every one has hdmi. And I don't want hdcp and hdmi drm restrictions. Good enough reason?
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I understand. But this phone never said it would have a tv out.

itsmebryan said:
I understand. But this phone never said it would have a tv out.
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Look man. No other phone said they would hace tv out via 3.5 jack, but they do. What are you doing here anyway?

so do we have hdmi out or what?

J3ff said:
so do we have hdmi out or what?
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http://www.nationwidediscounts.net/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Micro-USB-to-HDMI-Video-Cable.html
"Posted in SDX by Zeinzu.
Idk if this brings hope for anyone but one of my own customers hooked up his epic to our hdtv and streamed micro usb to hdmi both video and sound, i watched this with my own 2 eyes, he "claims" his epic was stock, I've yet to try mine cause we don't carry the cable and he had brought his own"

Given that last post, I'm almost tempted to gamble with $40. If anyone else has seen this done, just 1 more person to verify and I'm in. Now that I've heard a physical 'my own 2 eyes' confirmation, I'm feeling a bit optomistic (although probably setting myself up for disappointment). Anyone else tried or know someone who's tried?
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Just trying to understand this thread. Before this phone came out a lot of threads were talking about the fact the phone had no tv-out. Many said that was a deal breaker. I get that. Everyone know weeks before the phone came out it had no tv-out. I just understand the "tv-out" threads. Sorry
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Look man. No other phone said they would hace tv out via 3.5 jack, but they do. What are you doing here anyway?
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Well, I agree that people shouldn't be upset if it ISN'T there. However, if people are mearly asking for alternatives/workarounds, or possibly finding unadvertised features (ie 3.5 jack on gsm models) I believe that's exactly what this forum is for. However I also believe people should not be starting a ton of threads. Search for those that exist, and continue that thread (or make this one 'the thread')
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Galaxy Tab Cable on the Streak?

Has anyone else noticed that the Galaxy Tab uses a connection pretty damn similar to the one on our Streaks? After doing some reading it looks as though both use PDMI and cables sold as Galaxy Tab cables are a damns sight cheaper. So I've just ordered one and hopefully I will have some good news to report, we'll be able to spend a fiver instead of £30 for a cable! Not to mention car chargers.
But if anyone knows someone with a Tab they can test, we might get an answer sooner?
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Does not work I have both devices and theu do not fit
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Bummer on the cheap cable idea;-(
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Mail me your gtab so I can see!
Ha. Almost gotcha..

tchamander said:
Does not work I have both devices and theu do not fit
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Ahhhh that sux! But I think, had I searched google for "Dell streak with galaxy tab cable" I would have noticed the amount of people that had the same bright spark idea.... (leave me alone, it was late.... LOL)... But since I'm going to have one delivered that I have no need for, I'm going to see if I can mutilate it enough to fit
It does annoy the hell out of me, how they can use a "standard" and make it proprietary.

Don`t want to spoil your morning but i already mutilated mine Tab cable and it still didn`t fit...

betono said:
Don`t want to spoil your morning but i already mutilated mine Tab cable and it still didn`t fit...
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Motherfff..... back on eBay it goes then.... ha ha ha
)
I did find a company on ebay supposedly selling them for £7.95 (or there abouts) called speedydelivery.co.uk but as I've not heard of them before Ive sent them an email to see if anyone "lives" there, before I ordered one.
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Wouldn`t count on that neither
http://android.modaco.com/content/z.../new-battery-p7-35-case-p2-75-speedydelivery/
Damn, i`m in Poland and there is no way of buying Streak accessories here...

It's just not working out for you is it RavenY2K3?
So how can Dells connection and Samsung's connection bother be PDMI yet both are different?
I got a lil excited at one point as my lil sister has a little creative MP3 player and that had a simialr looking connector but that didn't fit

Keethos said:
It's just not working out for you is it RavenY2K3?
So how can Dells connection and Samsung's connection bother be PDMI yet both are different?
I got a lil excited at one point as my lil sister has a little creative MP3 player and that had a simialr looking connector but that didn't fit
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It certainly isn't mate, think I'll get me coat now ha ha, I don't how they can be PDMI, that's what I mean about changing standards, it would be like a company adding an extra contact in USB and still calling it USB, im not going to give up....
we shall fight Dell on the beaches,
we shall fight Dell on the landing grounds,
we shall fight Dell in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight Dell in the hills;
we shall never surrender! We will find cheaper alternatives to their accessories..... ha ha
Okay, Winston Churchill style rant over )
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RavenY2K3 said:
I did find a company on ebay supposedly selling them for £7.95 (or there abouts) called speedydelivery.co.uk
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See this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829234

Cheap replacement galaxy tab cable here if you need a replacement: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51799

Slacker G2 apparently has the same cable as the Streak, since their dock works for charging and connecting to computer. The only thing the dock doesn't do is audio out. But to get one cheap you have to be in the States. $18 free shipping.

twe69 said:
Cheap replacement galaxy tab cable here if you need a replacement: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51799
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It say Data cable anyone can confirm if it's charging too?

iamloco said:
It say Data cable anyone can confirm if it's charging too?
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Charging what?

twe69 said:
Cheap replacement galaxy tab cable here if you need a replacement: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51799
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Um - why are you posting this in the Dell Streak forum? It's not as if the Tab and the Streak use the same cable :-(

Philip said:
Um - why are you posting this in the Dell Streak forum? It's not as if the Tab and the Streak use the same cable :-(
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Because someone posted they wrecked they tab cable trying to make it work with the streak. If they need a new one, thats the link. Did you read the whole thread? I dont think so

They should use micro-usb instead
Next year every manufacturer need to use micro-usb for every device

Trust_no1 said:
They should use micro-usb instead
Next year every manufacturer need to use micro-usb for every device
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Not for every device, only for mobile phones and regulation is only for EU...
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Of course there are at least 4 different kinds of 'micro' usb connectors out there...

EVO HDMI

This is an attempt to get some information about HDMI.
For a long time I hear people saying somebody from the CM already got it working but so far the only thing I see is rumors like nobody knows for sure. Some people don’t live in a 4g are so like me they don’t worry about 4g, so for people like us the only thing keeping us for going in to cyanogen or any other none sense rom is the HDMI.
So here is my big questions, does anybody know for sure if this rumor is true or not about the HDMI?
Anybody from cyanogen did something with the HDMI or not?
Would that be any hope for CM7?
I know somebody already got the 4g working on the CM rom, I just hope someday soon we can have HDMI as well.
If anybody out there from CM see this thread I will really appreciated if you give us any hope.
For those people that check every little misspell sorry if I misspelled anything.
Hope to hear something from you guys

Cjunior said:
So here is my big questions, does anybody know for sure if this rumor is true or not about the HDMI?
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No
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Anybody from cyanogen did something with the HDMI or not?
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Maybe
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Would that be any hope for CM7?
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Perhaps
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.

nobody knows.
its top secret.
i wish i knew myself....
Cjunior said:
This is an attempt to get some information about HDMI.
For a long time I hear people saying somebody from the CM already got it working but so far the only thing I see is rumors like nobody knows for sure. Some people don’t live in a 4g are so like me they don’t worry about 4g, so for people like us the only thing keeping us for going in to cyanogen or any other none sense rom is the HDMI.
So here is my big questions, does anybody know for sure if this rumor is true or not about the HDMI?
Anybody from cyanogen did something with the HDMI or not?
Would that be any hope for CM7?
I know somebody already got the 4g working on the CM rom, I just hope someday soon we can have HDMI as well.
If anybody out there from CM see this thread I will really appreciated if you give us any hope.
For those people that check every little misspell sorry if I misspelled anything.
Hope to hear something from you guys
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Just think of HDMI on CM like Duke Nukem Forever on ... well ... any platform.

Just wish somebody from the cyanogen would say something.
That is a lot of rumors going on and nobody knows for sure anything

Justin.G11 said:
Just think of HDMI on CM like Duke Nukem Forever on ... well ... any platform.
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lol really, who uses HDMI on their EVOs?
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.

Cjunior said:
Just wish somebody from the cyanogen would say something.
That is a lot of rumors going on and nobody knows for sure anything
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Have you tried contacting one of them and asking?
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.

Cjunior said:
Just wish somebody from the cyanogen would say something.
That is a lot of rumors going on and nobody knows for sure anything
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Cyanogenmod/Team Douche is one of the most mum's-the-word groups that I've seen in the opensource arena. I think they find it better to not talk about anything they are working on that isn't eminent.

HondaCop said:
lol really, who uses HDMI on their EVOs?
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
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I use it all the time, playing videos from YouTube doing karaoke. But hey that is just me….LoL

Justin.G11 said:
Cyanogenmod/Team Douche is one of the most mum's-the-word groups that I've seen in the opensource arena. I think they find it better to not talk about anything they are working on that isn't eminent.
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I kind of agree with that… but that is one of the reasons I open the thread, I keep seeing stuff like somebody from cm already go it working but he got in to an accident. It would just be nice to know if that was really true or not.

i'd love to use the full hdmi.
big screen tv+snesoid+wii remote= full gaming system on your phone
same thing with the bt keyboard and mouse= another computer in the house
the phone already displays the full webpage its just a pain seeing it on the small phone.
put that on a 22 inch tv. it would be nice.
full hdmi would be awesome.
dont forget about the psx emulator either
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I use it all the time, playing videos from YouTube doing karaoke. But hey that is just me….LoL
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dtr145r said:
i'd love to use the full hdmi.
big screen tv+snes+wii remote= full gaming system on your phone
same thing with the bt keyboard and mouse= another computer in the house
the phone already displays the full webpage its just a pain seeing it on the small phone.
put that on a 22 inch tv. it would be nice.
full hdmi would be awesome.
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Could I recommend a HTPC tons of gaming to be done with that

BrianDigital said:
Could I recommend a HTPC tons of gaming to be done with that
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nah. already got one.

HondaCop said:
lol really, who uses HDMI on their EVOs?
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
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maybe if there was a hdmi mirroring app to connect the evo to a hdtv to watch atdhe.net

dtr145r said:
i'd love to use the full hdmi.
big screen tv+snesoid+wii remote= full gaming system on your phone
same thing with the bt keyboard and mouse= another computer in the house
the phone already displays the full webpage its just a pain seeing it on the small phone.
put that on a 22 inch tv. it would be nice.
full hdmi would be awesome.
dont forget about the psx emulator either
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Can I recommend a PS3, XBOX 360, Wii? Heck, even a Super NES from eBay.
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.

Who know what _would_ be doable and cool though? use the bluetooth on your phone as an authenticator for various things in the house like your xbox or even google tv.
Fire up the XBOX and during its controller scan it picks up my phone and knows which account to log in as and to unlock the parental controls .... when watching TV it could toggle the parental filters ... my computer could know to always browse in porn mode ...
As soon as I leave the room BAM! My bos are kicked out of Live, Google TV turns off skinimax, and google safe search filter is turned back on.

HondaCop said:
Can I recommend a PS3, XBOX 360, Wii? Heck, even a Super NES from eBay.
Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
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this is true

Justin.G11 said:
Just think of HDMI on CM like Duke Nukem Forever on ... well ... any platform.
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This game got an official release year after waiting over 8 years to hear about it. This year in 2011 its finally coming son
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I hope somebody can do it soon, I know if any dev needs people to test it me and a lot others would be more than happy to help.

Cjunior said:
I hope somebody can do it soon, I know if any dev needs people to test it me and a lot others would be more than happy to help.
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I rather they just focus their efforts on finishing wimax and gingerbread cm 7. Those seem like more important priorities.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

Developer support

What are we thinking guys? Are the developers going to support our skip this device? I hope work the low cost we can lure some of the devs from higher priced flagships but with the lower specs will they take the device seriously? Let me know what you think.

i hope it gets support. should be fairly easy too as it is a pixel

jmtjr278 said:
What are we thinking guys? Are the developers going to support our skip this device? I hope work the low cost we can lure some of the devs from higher priced flagships but with the lower specs will they take the device seriously? Let me know what you think.
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Of course it will. That's kind of a silly question. The x4 is getting support, and this phone already has far more appeal.

Usually the more popular budget style phones get a lot of dev support. I would be surprised if this one doesnt.

Archangel said:
Usually the more popular budget style phones get a lot of dev support. I would be surprised if this one doesnt.
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I tend to agree with you. It really brings back shades of the Nexus 5 with this price point. Also, VZW is not the sole carrier and BB along with others is selling it for basically $299 after credits / gift cards. The only 2 things that slightly bother me is the lack of waterproof and no wireless charging neither of which is a deal breaker. I'm curious what they look like so I'll head over to BB later. Now comes the question, will there be a Pixel 4a and what will that be like?

I was kinda bummed about wireless charging but I just put a wireless charging receiver on it from Amazon and it charges surprisingly fast.
bobby janow said:
I tend to agree with you. It really brings back shades of the Nexus 5 with this price point. Also, VZW is not the sole carrier and BB along with others is selling it for basically $299 after credits / gift cards. The only 2 things that slightly bother me is the lack of waterproof and no wireless charging neither of which is a deal breaker. I'm curious what they look like so I'll head over to BB later. Now comes the question, will there be a Pixel 4a and what will that be like?
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i saw a teardown and it seems they may have sealed the phone and just opted to not get it an ip rating to save cost(one plus does this)

Archangel said:
I was kinda bummed about wireless charging but I just put a wireless charging receiver on it from Amazon and it charges surprisingly fast.
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I bit the bullet after your recommendation and bought one today. I always have 2 phones and two lines.. just because. I traded in my 5X and had a $125 store credit and got mine for about a buck fifty after rebate. My other car is a Benz. Lol. J/k I have a Pixel 3 in hand. Went to Best Buy today, took one look and feel of the 3a and bought it in the parking lot.

Awesome brother, yeah I have not regretted buying my 3a. I had the Pixel 3 when it first came out and sold it for a used Galaxy S9 and a OnePlus6T which were both better than the Pixel 3. There isnt anything that I miss from my Pixel 3 to this Pixel 3a,,,all of the good features are here. Plus with the addition of a wireless charging receiver from Amazon for 9 bucks I am all good LOL.
bobby janow said:
I bit the bullet after your recommendation and bought one today. I always have 2 phones and two lines.. just because. I traded in my 5X and had a $125 store credit and got mine for about a buck fifty after rebate. My other car is a Benz. Lol. J/k I have a Pixel 3 in hand. Went to Best Buy today, took one look and feel of the 3a and bought it in the parking lot.
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Archangel said:
I was kinda bummed about wireless charging but I just put a wireless charging receiver on it from Amazon and it charges surprisingly fast.
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Would you please supply a link to that? Thanks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5FDXD4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Would you please supply a link to that? Thanks.
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For sure.
The Pixel 3A has already booted on DU and Carbon. TWRP trees exist for it too. They just aren't finished, but they work.

ZVNexus said:
For sure.
The Pixel 3A has already booted on DU and Carbon. TWRP trees exist for it too. They just aren't finished, but they work.
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Yeah I saw the du post. Excited. But that was for the xl. I would assume they share the same source but I'm not positive. Flar says there are hardware differences over on the ex thread.
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jmtjr278 said:
Yeah I saw the du post. Excited. But that was for the xl. I would assume they share the same source but I'm not positive. Flar says there are hardware differences over on the ex thread.
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Would you mind sharing on link to the post? I'd love to check it out.

crackedvenom2 said:
Would you mind sharing on link to the post? I'd love to check it out.
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I questioned him on the differences. Never got a response. I will link you to the post. Give me a minute
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=79538548
Here it is. Not sure what he meant as I thought the only difference was the 0.4 inches in screen and the 700mah battery size.
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jmtjr278 said:
I questioned him on the differences. Never got a response. I will link you to the post. Give me a minute
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=79538548
Here it is. Not sure what he meant as I thought the only difference was the 0.4 inches in screen and the 700mah battery size.
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Cool man. Well, I hope we see some stuff soon.

jmtjr278 said:
I questioned him on the differences. Never got a response. I will link you to the post. Give me a minute
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=79538548
Here it is. Not sure what he meant as I thought the only difference was the 0.4 inches in screen and the 700mah battery size.
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Yes the only difference is the panel and battery from what I can tell.

So after a month doesn't look to good.. No ROMs no TWRP.
Is it still to early?

yabadabadooo said:
So after a month doesn't look to good.. No ROMs no TWRP.
Is it still to early?
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Oneplus 7 had twrp after a week :/

Unstroofy said:
Oneplus 7 had twrp after a week :/
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A good developer, @tdhite, mentioned swapping over to a Pixel 3a from the Samsung flagships, not sure if he's going XL though. I also heard someone is working on TWRP, not sure on the progress.