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Nexus One vs. iPhone (CNET Prizefight)

It has happened, the iPhone FINALLY loses a prizefight.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/nexus-one-vs-iphone-3gs/9742-1_53-50083136.html

Android Touch said:
It has happened, the iPhone FINALLY loses a prizefight.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/nexus-one-vs-iphone-3gs/9742-1_53-50083136.html
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I had to watch that with no sound... damn work computer... I wanted to see the ratings though. Did the Nexus One have the multi-touch update? I would assume no. And I am also assuming that would go a long way in helping out on a couple of those 4.0 scores.

They did not include the new MT support. Time for a rematch!

pjcforpres said:
I had to watch that with no sound... damn work computer... I wanted to see the ratings though. Did the Nexus One have the multi-touch update? I would assume no. And I am also assuming that would go a long way in helping out on a couple of those 4.0 scores.
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Nope, and yeah it definately would.

full Froyo or press release.

I've been noticing a lot of the apps on the market stating that we all have press release versions of Froyo. Is this true?

Can you give some examples?
Haven't seen this.

yeah, PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!

Paul22000 said:
Can you give some examples?
Haven't seen this.
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yeah really
also is that picture of yours gordon freeman?

look at nexus mod...
and look at this http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/22/android-2-2s-froyo-goodness-hitting-the-nexus-one-already/ check out the 3rd update
We've done some additional investigation, and as far as we can tell, Google is only updating review Nexus Ones that had been provided to the press -- not off-the-shelf phones. We'll stay on this and let you know more as soon as we do.
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this the only thing that made me believe it:
from @Romain Guy
http://twitter.com/romainguy/status/14650964801

If that turns out to be the case, we will get the new file so we can flash it; if not we can alway download the old 2.1 update file, flash and then let the OTA hit the phone.

ChillRays said:
yeah really
also is that picture of yours gordon freeman?
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LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!

Paul22000 said:
LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!
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Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.

wocman said:
Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.
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Man! now I don't know what I want more... Official FROYO or episode 3
Google/Valve... it's about time you

wocman said:
Really? I thought everyone interested enough in tinkering with gadgets (aka nerds, JK ) knew Freeman, the famous silent protagonist armed with the mighty crowbar. Or maybe I'm just getting old and ppl don't play PC games anymore.
Anyway, hopefully a new rom will come. I still have problems mounting the SD card which sometimes causes crashes. And also missing market links.
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yea i think 70 percent or more of this forum should know freeman from half life gosh i remember the pc crowbar days ... was i the only one who played demos like they was the full game if they didn't have the money at the moment lol

Paul22000 said:
LOL Yes. First person to get it so far!
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lol.. One of my favorite videos on youtube is called "half life full life consequences". Its not "lol" funny but very amusing =)

Guys, let's continue the discussion in the older thread, too many duplicate threads being created... lets keep all in one place. Thanks though.

Still no tv out?

Has anyone been able to enable tv out on the epic 4G like the other galaxy s phones have?
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mormegil83 said:
Has anyone been able to enable tv out on the epic 4G like the other galaxy s phones have?
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I hear you. I bought the Nokia cable before I found out TV out was missing from the menu. Doesn't any of these ROMs bring it back. I have yet to flash but I was going to do
Tayutama 1.1 w/ Voodoo Lag fix Beta 4

Bump. Anyone?
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mormegil83 said:
Bump. Anyone?
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There is another thread about this I found. Search for it. Anyway, it seems that the issue is Touchwiz 2.5. SO...we have to wait until Froyo comes out with TW3.0 and THEN see if the TV out is available. All of the other SGS phones that have it are TW 3.0.
But I'm with you man.

ZenInsight said:
There is another thread about this I found. Search for it. Anyway, it seems that the issue is Touchwiz 2.5. SO...we have to wait until Froyo comes out with TW3.0 and THEN see if the TV out is available. All of the other SGS phones that have it are TW 3.0.
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This is partially true, but not totally true.
When people talk about TV out, it's helpful if they define how they wish to get TV out.
All four US Galaxy S series phones support DLNA, which is why Samsung claims TV out features for their phones. But that's now what most folks would consider TV out...
Only the GSM phones have TV out via the 3.5mm output.
So to say that this is a TW 3.0 issue, would be inaccurate. The Fascinate has TW3.0 and does not support TV out via the 3.5mm port. I read a post somewhere that described the CDMA chip not being able to work with the 3.5mm out port, but I haven't been able to find it. I thought it was BS at the time so I ignored it, but now that the Fascinate is out and the 3.5mm port does not support TV out, I'm trying desperately to find it to double check the specs.
That leaves TV out via the microUSB port. Samsung's website was offering (they still might be) an HDMI cable that worked via the microUSB port and specifically listed the Galaxy S series (including the Fascinate, Captivate, Vibrant and Epic by name) however, nobody has been able to get it to work.
And thuse we're left with the speculation that TV out via the MicroUSB might be a Froyo addition, but not necessarily something that might be part of TW3.0 independently.

I found the post. Here you go:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/132687-no-tv-out-sprint-epic-2.html#post1932751
CzechPleez said:
Hi, I'm a Sprint employee and Epic owner. Having worked with the Samsung developers a little I can tell you with assurance that the TV Out option was not "disabled" by Sprint's choice. It's a h/w limitation. When you first boot the phone you get an auto update which appears to disable the TV Out option, but I think that's a mandatory because the shipping ROM is universal to domestic carriers from Samsung. The TV Out limitation is due to the CDMA SOC (system on chip), which will be true for the Verizon model coming soon. The Galaxy S devices based on the GSM SOC do have the TV Out option.
DLNA is the only option for displaying multimedia on a remote display, but keep in mind you are limited to self-created content. You can't broadcast YouTube or SprintTV across DLNA as the DRM encryption is not supported on either the Epic or any remote device.
We're glad you're a Sprint customer and hope you remain happy with your Epic!
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vansmack said:
I found the post. Here you go:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/132687-no-tv-out-sprint-epic-2.html#post1932751
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WTF! Are you kidding me? This is absolutely terrible news. I'm really disappointing if this is true.

Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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WTF! Are you kidding me? This is absolutely terrible news. I'm really disappointing if this is true.
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itsmebryan said:
Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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Because composite out allows anything on the screen to appear on tv.....any tv. Every tv has rca's. Not every one has hdmi. And I don't want hdcp and hdmi drm restrictions. Good enough reason?

I'm sad and my dreams are dashed.

itsmebryan said:
Why are people so mad about this? No one ever said it would have tv out via cable only through dlna.
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Because you cannot share your self-recorded Movies through every DLNA device. PS3 and the Xbox both do not support our 3gp HD movie format.
I would like to visit my mother's house and be able to plug into her TV and show her the recordings of her granddaughters and other self-recorded video but I will be unable to do so without expensive extra hardware.

Well, don't shoot the messenger - I simply pay attention.
And second, RCA jacks are so 1990's I don't really care if they don't support them. This is a top of the line phone, so I'm glad if they sacrificed somewhere that they sacrificed 1990s technology.
That being said, don't give me HDMI out with the Froyo update and, well I'll have a CDMI issue. Good thing I'm on Sprint with 4G and not Verizon where I'd be really screwed. No 4G, no TV out, nothing to justify my costs, really...

kennethlongshaw said:
I'm sad and my dreams are dashed.
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Don't give up till froyo is out.

ZenInsight said:
Because composite out allows anything on the screen to appear on tv.....any tv. Every tv has rca's. Not every one has hdmi. And I don't want hdcp and hdmi drm restrictions. Good enough reason?
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I understand. But this phone never said it would have a tv out.

itsmebryan said:
I understand. But this phone never said it would have a tv out.
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Look man. No other phone said they would hace tv out via 3.5 jack, but they do. What are you doing here anyway?

so do we have hdmi out or what?

J3ff said:
so do we have hdmi out or what?
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http://www.nationwidediscounts.net/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Micro-USB-to-HDMI-Video-Cable.html
"Posted in SDX by Zeinzu.
Idk if this brings hope for anyone but one of my own customers hooked up his epic to our hdtv and streamed micro usb to hdmi both video and sound, i watched this with my own 2 eyes, he "claims" his epic was stock, I've yet to try mine cause we don't carry the cable and he had brought his own"

Given that last post, I'm almost tempted to gamble with $40. If anyone else has seen this done, just 1 more person to verify and I'm in. Now that I've heard a physical 'my own 2 eyes' confirmation, I'm feeling a bit optomistic (although probably setting myself up for disappointment). Anyone else tried or know someone who's tried?
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Just trying to understand this thread. Before this phone came out a lot of threads were talking about the fact the phone had no tv-out. Many said that was a deal breaker. I get that. Everyone know weeks before the phone came out it had no tv-out. I just understand the "tv-out" threads. Sorry
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Look man. No other phone said they would hace tv out via 3.5 jack, but they do. What are you doing here anyway?
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Well, I agree that people shouldn't be upset if it ISN'T there. However, if people are mearly asking for alternatives/workarounds, or possibly finding unadvertised features (ie 3.5 jack on gsm models) I believe that's exactly what this forum is for. However I also believe people should not be starting a ton of threads. Search for those that exist, and continue that thread (or make this one 'the thread')
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I feel bad for idiots... -.-

I was just browsing the ATT site cause I'm due for an upgrade. The only phone running android other than the aria worth getting is the captivate, but I still love my aria and its gonna take one monster of a phone to get me away from it. Anyway, I stumbled on the aria's product page and read a few 1 star reviews from the "average" person... They generally hate this phone, they don't understand simple concepts... like using the phone correctly... It's so depressing, I'd hate to be such a primitive minded person in these technology driven times, I'd post a link to a guide to root the phone if I didn't already know att would delete it, and possibly punish me for breach of contract.

CES is less than 2 weeks away. HTC and ATT are supposed to announce a premier partnership, and unveil a Dual core HTC Android that is supposed to kill everything lit there.
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jbizz said:
CES is less than 2 weeks away. HTC and ATT are supposed to announce a premier partnership, and unveil a Dual core HTC Android that is supposed to kill everything lit there.
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Weird, never heard of it mentioned at gsmarena.com yet...

jbizz said:
CES is less than 2 weeks away. HTC and ATT are supposed to announce a premier partnership, and unveil a Dual core HTC Android that is supposed to kill everything lit there.
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You must be mistaken:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...ts-own-media-streamer-during-CES-2011_id15032
It's a Motorola device.

kaschenberg said:
You must be mistaken:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...ts-own-media-streamer-during-CES-2011_id15032
It's a Motorola device.
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I have 2 friends that are both managers for AT&T stores, 1 of them saw said device that the HTC rep had.
I know about the Olympus, anyone that has an Android phone with AT&T has already heard about the Olympus.

jbizz said:
I know about the Olympus, anyone that has an Android phone with AT&T has already heard about the Olympus.
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I guess I've been living under a rock then, 'cause this is the first I've heard of it...

jbizz said:
I have 2 friends that are both managers for AT&T stores, 1 of them saw said device that the HTC rep had.
I know about the Olympus, anyone that has an Android phone with AT&T has already heard about the Olympus.
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ORLY
That's funny because I'd be willing to bet that the guys at gsmarena, engadget, and phonearena have 10x the inside scoop than any of your ATT manager buddies ever will.

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That's funny because I'd be willing to bet that the guys at gsmarena, engadget, and phonearena have 10x the inside scoop than any of your ATT manager buddies ever will.
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Fo Sho! My friend is pretty excited about it! The HTC guy said that there are going to be some pretty amazing phones at CES. There was a post a while back on a website, and the guy said that he was testing a 4" screen HTC model with front and rear camera. Wish I could find the link, I have been searching for hrs.
Look man, I am just telling you what I have heard, take it as you will!

Does XDA have an ignore feature? This forum would be much more enjoyable without Kaschenberg.

Oh man, yeah, I can't wait for a dual core android... portable n64 anyone? lol, prolly won't go THAT far, but it certainly will before you know it, now... if only I could connect my ps3 controller with bluetooth...

Awesome, I just checked the Aria reviews on the AT&T site and mine was the #1 most helpful! I'm glad I can help sway some opinions in favor of the Aria.

911jason said:
Does XDA have an ignore feature? This forum would be much more enjoyable without Kaschenberg.
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Sure, I'll help your sorry ***. Click my name -> User Profile -> User List -> Add to Ignore List.
Nice to meet you too - if you would, give me a "Thanks", appreciate it buddy.

That's the first helpful thing I've ever seen from you... definitely worthy of a thanks.
...and then an ignore.

Awesmazing said:
I'd post a link to a guide to root the phone if I didn't already know att would delete it, and possibly punish me for breach of contract.
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While it's very l33t and in line with this forum in general to root your phone, in no way does the Aria require rooting. Anyone giving it a 1 star rating probably should just stick to Razr's.
My wife's Aria is stock and she loves it. It's fast, smooth, and besides her seemingly ALWAYS getting "select vs dial" confused in the dialer, she has zero problems with it. Only minor problem she has is seemingly inconsistent battery life.. Sometimes she'll get 2 days, sometimes it's 12 hours, even with her fairly constant type of usage.

Awesmazing said:
Oh man, yeah, I can't wait for a dual core android... portable n64 anyone? lol, prolly won't go THAT far, but it certainly will before you know it, now... if only I could connect my ps3 controller with bluetooth...
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Portable N64 would been the godliest thing ever.
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khaytsus said:
While it's very l33t and in line with this forum in general to root your phone, in no way does the Aria require rooting. Anyone giving it a 1 star rating probably should just stick to Razr's.
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oh yeah, I completely agree, the only reason I finally rooted MY aria was for the overclock kernel so I could fully enjoy the SNES emu I paid for. I was so reluctant to root originally cause stock was just so enjoyable for me.
Also, please don't dis the Razr :'( My last phone was a gold Razr V3xx which had bookworm on it with a game scoring over 28 mil, and the sickest tower defense game ever put on a phone via .jar files... But I do get your point
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Portable N64 would been the godliest thing ever.
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Yeah, it will. There's some super bulky prototype models you can go buy from personal sellers that run you about 300 bucks and is basically an N64 just with a custom plastic molded case for handheld use. But I bet a hacked 3DS will be around much sooner than a phone with native N64 support... Hopefully, I'm wrong, but the best part is, doesn't matter if I am!

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Portable N64 would been the godliest thing ever.
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That shouldn't be too far off the horizon. There is a playstation 1 emulator already and graphics-wise they were very similar.

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That shouldn't be too far off the horizon. There is a playstation 1 emulator already and graphics-wise they were very similar.
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To the untrained eye the graphics of a PS1 and N64 may LOOK to be very similar. But there are WAY more factors involved other than how the graphics may appear to look from each system. An N64 emulator as I've read to believe requires almost 5 times the power of the hardware required to run a PS1 emulator. Possibly even MORE hardware power is required depending on the game you want to play (like games that used the expansion pack). The N64 portable emu (short of a modified N64) is a little further off than you may think... But I wouldn't be surprised if some betas spring up sometime this year.

i agree.. its the most simple interface you can possibly get. menu/settings
menu/apps menu/wallpaper
if you want something done, push fking menu! xD
oh yeah, dual core plz

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That's funny because I'd be willing to bet that the guys at gsmarena, engadget, and phonearena have 10x the inside scoop than any of your ATT manager buddies ever will.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...erizon-and-inspire-4g-for-atandt-break-cover/
WOW... Guess my ATT manager buddies didn't have the scoop before Engadget!
Oops... so its not the dual core... but still knew about it before Engadget!

Official Netflix support coming in 3.2?

Could be: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/2...cial-netflix-support-with-android-3-2-update/
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Android Central said you could port a regular netflix app and it should work already.

wynand32 said:
Could be: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/2...cial-netflix-support-with-android-3-2-update/
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Just read the same post... YES!!! Finally! ...the earlier apk for rooted TF101s with patch was awesome for sure, but it's great we're finally getting some official love (and support).

Yes, I also own a Xoom running 3.2 and you can sideload the Netflix app on it and it works fine. I am waiting for it to show up in the Market though so I can get the automatic Netflix updates as opposed to the sideloaded version that you must manually update. Hopefully, the TF will get this working in 3.2... Keeping my fingers crossed...

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Android Central said you could port a regular netflix app and it should work already.
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That requires root and the installation of a patch. I have no time for such things (including messing around with unrooting when then next TF update comes), and so having an official Netflix app will be most welcome.

http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer/specification
Theyre claiming Netflix(us only) on their site, so possibly after 3.2

Keeping my fingers crossed. I've held out on rooting this far. Love my transformer and honestly can live without netflix on it, but it would surely be a plus to have it added.

what so special in Netflix everyone wants it?

nokianich said:
what so special in Netflix everyone wants it?
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Old cheesy B movies and crap peeps don't wanna see. Nah I'm a Netflix subscriber and I do use it a couple times a month at least and it would just be nice to have since many other devices have it is all.

nokianich said:
what so special in Netflix everyone wants it?
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For me it adds an extra component to the transformer that other tablets already have. At this point android is playing catchup to Ipad. (well..everyone is)
They all are, but android has a good chance to get there, but they need to add what competitors offer and then add their own extra spice.
Personally, i have netflix enabled in all my tvs at home, but would love to have it on my TF for road trips. If i stay on a hotel, tether off the phone in the car..it just adds more thrills to an already good device.
Oh, and the TF has replaced the newspaper and book in my restroom. BEST reading material for when taking care of business.. Imagine watching some movie while pooping..lol Legs would fall asleep..

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Oh, and the TF has replaced the newspaper and book in my restroom. BEST reading material for when taking care of business.. Imagine watching some movie while pooping..lol Legs would fall asleep..
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I can't wait until someone hacks the forward facing camera control. Dude, you're totally gonna be famous. Or at least make it on Tosh.0

No Netflix.

and no HBOgo

dubge said:
and no HBOgo
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It works great through the browser.
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cvfl said:
I can't wait until someone hacks the forward facing camera control. Dude, you're totally gonna be famous. Or at least make it on Tosh.0
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Now that's funny! LOL
I don't understand WTF is up with Netflix and the TF. It works fine sideloaded on my unrooted Xoom and even my old Viewsonic GTablet has an official Netflix app in the market and it works great. It's rooted but it's Froyo 2.2! It does load in portrait mode but plays back perfect in landscape...

pside15 said:
It works great through the browser.
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I didn't know you could do that, thanks

argghh.. I forgot mine's TW version, haha, so still can't watch netflix with this, too bad