I noticed when I get a Gmail notification, my Moto Display turns on about every 5 seconds to show me the notification. I have Moto Approach turned off. I thought it would just show up once and then I would only get the notification once I picked up my phone? Is it supposed to come on every 5 seconds? I need to confirm if it does this on all my notifications or just Gmail.
Think of MotoDisplay like an LED indicator. It's going to notify every 5 sec until you acknowledge the alert. If it didn't, then you wouldn't know you had an alert if you missed the initial.
okay just making sure that is normal....I thought before it would only go off when I picked up the phone, guess I was not paying attention. Hmm so what uses more battery, approach or it coming on every 5 seconds?
Even with approach on, it will still flash every 5 sec if you have a notification. They have nothing to do with each other.
whats the point of approach? Just in case you want to see those notifications in-between the 5 seconds or just so you can see your clock? lol
So that you don't have to push the power button.
Mine doesn't flash every 5 seconds. It flashes once then if I don't see it I can either use approach (which I have turned off) or I just nudge the phone or pick it up to see if there are ay notifications waiting.
how do you turn on the "approach" option?
This phone has more bugs than a louisiana swamp
Sometimes the notifications pulse until i stop them ....sometimes they pulse a few times and then stop by themselves ...and sometimes it never pulses at all
tmzbeme said:
how do you turn on the "approach" option?
This phone has more bugs than a louisiana swamp
Sometimes the notifications pulse until i stop them ....sometimes they pulse a few times and then stop by themselves ...and sometimes it never pulses at all
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Go to your app drawer, select Moto, hit the stars in the upper right hand side corner, select actions and top action is approach for Moto Display
I had my approach off but when I got out of the shower today, I saw mine coming on about every 2-3 seconds. Apparently it was my emails. I blocked my email from activating the screen and it stopped. It is not an issue for me as I am working at my computer most days and can check emails at the computer. The days I am on the road, I have always been in the habit of checking my emails when I feel like it. I don't need the notifications.
If it's on its back and sensing physical movement.... For example.... Waiting on your passenger seat in a moving car.... It will light up.... It's sensing movement. If you put it vertical it doesn't light up....
This is with approach turned off.
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shoman94 said:
If it's on its back and sensing physical movement.... For example.... Waiting on your passenger seat in a moving car.... It will light up.... It's sensing movement. If you put it vertical it doesn't light up....
This is with approach turned off.
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I noticed mine doing this from a text/hangout notification, while I was driving, though, it was "vertical" in my car dock.
I notice while driving it comes on more often, vertical or not. Changes in lighting conditions inside car affect it. If I leave it in darker area of vehicle it doesn't come on continuously.
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Weird.... With approach off and vertical.. Mine doesn't light up.
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So, I have a Behold II and noticed this damn thing doesn't have a notification LED. So i was wondering.... can someone make the following app:
When you receive a text, there is no LED to show you got one, so you constantly need to look at your phone...
If someone can make an app where when you receive a text... your screen slowly glows? that would be pretty neet. Let me know if theoretically this is possible.
Imagine, phone on your desk, you get up, come back and its slowly fading on and off... (i know this will be a battery killer).
Handcent sms has a funtion that turns your phone on when you get a text...
The problem with that is that it might turn on the screen momentarily but then it'll auto sleep again in a minute or less. I want to know if someone can make something where when we get a text, the screen just faintly "glows" white.... a slow fade in and out until you grab your phone.
Ideas would be:
- Make the screen fade in and out slowly (a faint glow, almost like the Flashlight App, but faint... not BAM LIGHT lol)
- Make a settings to be able to choose the color you want
- Make a setting to pick the time of day you don't want it to glow (save battery). So if I set "no glow" from 12AM - 8AM and i get a text at 3AM my phone won't glow cause it'll glow all morning till i wake up and drain all battery.
Any ideas?
If you make the screen glow until you grab your phone, this would kill the battery. Just imagine receiving a text at 1 am while u r sleeping, when you wake up your battery would be unecessarily used up.
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If you make the screen glow until you grab your phone, this would kill the battery. Just imagine receiving a text at 1 am while u r sleeping, when you wake up your battery would be unecessarily used up.
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thats why i wrote one of the settings for time frame... a "NO GLOW" time...
so you can set NO GLOW from 12AM - 8AM (while you're sleeping) and if you get a text nothing happens... It only works at the hours you choose.
Sounds like a cool app and for those that have hearing problems kinda even more important
In case this never materializes you could turn the notification reminders on so it could beep or vibrate after the initial notification
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Sounds like a cool app and for those that have hearing problems kinda even more important
In case this never materializes you could turn the notification reminders on so it could beep or vibrate after the initial notification
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Thats how I have it now but it only vibrates once every so often... I could use more of a visual notification specially while at work... phone goes on the desk and I don't always feel the vibration
I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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what do you mean with locked screen?
pattern security?
i can tell from my previous droid maxx that active display works on locked by pattern or unlocked phone. and you can even choose to show the notification or just the app. (i.e. active display showing the whatsapp message you just got or just the whatsapp icon to let you know that you have a new message.)
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I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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Yes, it works if you don't have any lock screen setup. Actually it works better (definitely faster) imo because Active Display just opens up the app right away, when you scroll up with the notification icon. Otherwise, you scroll up on the AD icon, then get stuck having to enter your password/pin, and finally the app opens up.
As others said, you do not need security for Active Display, if it works anything like the Moto X.
I use Tasker and Secure Settings to toggle PIN lockscreen when I'm on home WiFi. If I leave home, my lockscreen is reactivated, but Active Display still works. I usually don't leave my phone sit long enough to lock during the day (30 minutes), but if it does lock, swiping the active display brings you to the lockscreen to put in your PIN. It's not the same as the normal lock screen, it's like a "popup" that only shows the keypad. It does not show the clock, alarms, etc (which I think is actually just the stock lockscreen widget).
If lockscreen is off, swiping the Active Display takes you straight to the home screen.
Hope this helps.
having swapped out my GS3 (worst phone i ever owned) for a Droid Maxx last year i can say that Active Display (now Moto Display i think?) is the greatest thing ever!...I was worried about losing the LED notification back then, but active display is just plain better...
and now it does not require a lock screen setup afaik
Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Correct. If there is no lock screen, the Active Display shows the clock and notification icons. On the Moto X you can swipe down to unlock to the home screen, up to go to the app with the most recent notification, or swipe left/right to dismiss the current notifications from Active Display.
Active Display it self sort of serves as a lock screen, just a slide to unlock. If you press the physical power button the phone turns on to the home screen.
But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
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But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
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If there was no security method selected, yes.
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If there was no security method selected, yes.
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Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
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Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Me replying with "awesome" = yourself and others did a superb job explaining everything to me and making this a non-concern for me regarding potentially getting the Turbo.
But totality appreciate you giving me more input on how the Active Display works, especially the breathing aspect.
Regarding using the Active Display to wake up a non-locked screen instead of the power button, I was actually curious to see if there were others who are adjusted to using the Active Display for this purpose and now prefer it over the power button.
Otherwise, I'm now really excited to go demo it tomorrow and see for myself how it works.
Cheers.
I nearly always use the screen gesture to turn on the display, usually to the home screen.
When you move the Moto X at all (I usually just tap it so it rocks to one side on the curved back, or "twist" it slightly while it is laying on the table) the active display comes up. This is usually just to check the time. You can also hold on the unlock ring and see some of the details for the current pending notifications. For example, if Fenix has a notification, I can hold the unlock ring and see the first few bits of the notification to see if I really want to unlock for that or not.
From there I can let go (nothing happens), swipe up to open Fenix, swipe down for home screen, or swipe left/right to clear that notification from Fenix.
You will get used to AD very quickly.
I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
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I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
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Yeah, little things like that are borderline panic worthy for some of us. TBH, I find that on average friends who have iPhones take a decent while longer to get back to me than those with Android phones or even Blackberries. Why? Because if they miss a call, sms, or email there's no way of knowing unless they actually physically touch there phone. At least this was the case last time I checked or of course they can always enable "LED Flash for Alerts"....smh.
So coming back to the topic - I gave it some thought and feel like this Active Display is probably an even better option than LEDs.
Instead of the LED notifications on our GS3s lighting up in different colors (the correlation of which I still haven't memorized even to this day), we'll now have Motorola's Active Display which allows for "breathing" when there are notifications. What this does is cause your screen to flash every couple of seconds with notification information. This is awesome because at a glance you'll now know exactly what's going on. So if you're like me and like it when your nearby phone let's you know you may have missed a call, sms, or email then this seems like it'll be quite useful. You also have the option of turning the "breathing" off at night along with managing which apps you wish to work with the AD.
At least I hope that is the case because I've never really spent a lot of time with a Moto X (only briefly on one of my friend's). So for those who are AD vets if I said something that's off please correct me.
This video also helped me understand how it works a little better (so hopefully it'll help you and others who are in the same boat):
This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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Don't think we'll need to be charging our Turbos at a place other than the comfort of our own personal nightstands given the battery capacity we're getting here.
Otherwise, yeah, LEDs are nice to have for when your phone is in a non-nearby situation and you wish to quickly glance at it for an update.
So my moto display will constantly light up every other second when I have notification such as E-mail etc. I feel like that kills a lot of battery when I just put it on the table. Is there are way to change the setting or something so it only light up for once or twice. I can always reach to the phone to check the notification so there is no need for notification always light up. Also, I found out that if I block the IR blaster it will not light up anymore but as soon as I remove the cover it will constantly light up again. I think constantly light up screen really burn down a lot of battery.
It doesn't use as much as you'd think. Moto Display (formerly Active Display on Moto X 2013) only lights the pixels that you can see. The rest of the screen is off.
With the Moto X, the display "breathes" when there are notifications pending. It flashes every 2-3 seconds, but does flash slower if left alone for a while. Placing the phone face down turns it off. You can also define quiet hours that disable the Active Display completely. Lastly, you can turn it on or off for specific apps that you don't want to trigger the notifications. For example, you may want your Gmail and text messages, but not Twitter. You can also dismiss the notifications by swiping left/right when selecting them (not certain if that is still true for Turbo as it has multiple notifications whereas the Moto X 2013 only shows one at a time).
I don't know of any way to turn it off after some amount of time, it's either on or off, but you can change the apps that are included. And as I said, it does blink slower (more time between blinks) if you don't touch the phone for a while.
Ok thanks that really helps... I just hope they can add a setting so it won't always light up. I'm also wondering if battery consumption by moto display count as part of the cell standby because it is still quite high compare to other smartphone I had used before.
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Ok thanks that really helps... I just hope they can add a setting so it won't always light up. I'm also wondering if battery consumption by moto display count as part of the cell standby because it is still quite high compare to other smartphone I had used before.
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The Moto Display battery usage falls under the "Android System" app in the battery stats. You can confirm it in by opening the app in the battery stats and observing the "Active Display System Process" listed.
You can turn off moto display...or you can swipe the notification to the right or left to "dismiss it" without opening the phone...or you can leave the phone face down on the table
I am unsure if I will buy this device.
Someone who has moto maxx can download an application from the notification screen and test if it works well?
These applications promise to pick a different light for each application notification screen on moto maxx. (Since he does not have conventional LED)
I will be very grateful if someone could do this to me
I think Moto should definitely change the Moto Display behavior so that it uses the front sensors instead of the gyro (movement) when there is no current notification. This would allow you to wave for the time and it would be displayed when you pulled it out of your pocket, but it would not be shown by bumps in the road or other movement. If there is a notification waiting the behavior should stay the same because it is up to the user to acknowledge/dismiss it.
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I think Moto should definitely change the Moto Display behavior so that it uses the front sensors instead of the gyro (movement) when there is no current notification. This would allow you to wave for the time and it would be displayed when you pulled it out of your pocket, but it would not be shown by bumps in the road or other movement. If there is a notification waiting the behavior should stay the same because it is up to the user to acknowledge/dismiss it.
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On the Moto X 2013 at least, it doesn't turn on every time it moves. If you're holding it in your hand and walking, it doesn't just stay on all the time. Once you set it down on the table and let it sit for a moment, then touch it again, it lights up.
I usually leave mine sitting on my desk at work and if there are no notifications pending (to make it breathe), I just touch it so it rolls slightly on the curved back and it shows me the time.
If my phone is flat, facing up, and I walk near it or wave my hands over it, the screen turns on. Not sure if this is an Android MM issue or a setting within the phone but I want to turn that off. Any ideas?
Turn it off? It's such a great feature that Google straight up ripped it off from Moto...
Bit anyways...open the "Moto" app and look under gestures
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Metfanant said:
Turn it off? It's such a great feature that Google straight up ripped it off from Moto...
Bit anyways...open the "Moto" app and look under gestures
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LOL, it spooks the sh1t out of me. Like its on the desk next to me while I'm working and I'll look at it and its like "oh, you must want to know the time".
its one of the main features of this phone and its predecessors, and a big reason why myself and others would buy a motorola phone . Its called ambient display and it takes the place of a notification light by turning on at regular intervals when you have a notification like a text message. It will also turn on when you get close, or when you pull it out of your pocket, so you can see if you have any notifications or just check the time. since its an AMOLED screen, its only turns on the pixels of the white font, and any black area is "off", so it doesnt completely wake your device every time and kill your battery. its a very useful feature and i would suggest giving it a shot. if you get used to it, its super handy
Moto gestures are one of my main reasons to get a moto device. That and I can have nice hardware without Touchwiz. Love the 3500mah battery in my force.
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
If this so incenses you, send it back.
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LG didn't deliver an LED on the V20. Nuke it from orbit.
I use no led app in the play Store. It blinks on the main screen... How this helps...
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1) Get some glasses cause if you can't see the second screen from a foot away you have some issues.
I have my phone on my desk and I can see every single notification and time that is displayed. easily.
I agree an LED should have been included but that's cause I'm used to it, but it's not a must have really. There are WAY more phones out there without LED notification than with (ie: iPhone)
2) Every app has it's own notification options. If something isn't working how it should, then go into their notification and adjust it. I use Vibrate at work and have no issues getting my text notification, email notification or really notification from any app that matters(ones I've taken the time to set up). Personally I hate an audible notification for email, but Gmail doesn't allow me to turn just the sound off, so I downloaded (using the app mentioned below) a notification sound called "silent" that is just 1 second of nothing so that I can have my email just vibrate.
3) If you hate the notification/ringtones then change them. Simple as that. A great easy app is Zedge - you can download what you want and set it how you want.
I am far sighted and need glasses to read text anywhere up to two feet out or so...... and I can tell from the second screen if I have a text or email waiting for me with it a foot away..... without my reading glasses on.
As stated, you need to look at your settings for the phone and app. I get vibrations for texts and emails. That's the only communications I do anymore.
And I haven't had a notification LED since my Note 3. I figured manufacturers were drifting away from them in favor of other notification systems. To tell you the truth, I don't miss having a light blinding me in the middle of the night or flashing in bars. I much more prefer the smoother new systems in place.
well wearing my gear fit2 that i got for free, notification led is useless for me haha... so ive been very happy with v20 soo far..
they should build a led into the fps =D
I agree, no notification light is a super bummer. If we could just get an update to blink the screen maybe. Its not the brightness, its the viewing angle is poor. The brightness in screen off mode is terrible if you're coming from the N7 AOD.
If this phone upsets you this much, why are you still using it?
Why not exchange for something that suit your needs better?
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Exactly! Just in case you guys didn't notice..... this IS NOT a Samsung. We get it. It doesn't have a notification light. We don't need to hear about it in every thread. Get over it or get rid of the device. It's not going to magically grow one.
I don't have the V20 yet, but maybe someone can write an app and use the entire strip as a LED notification substitute.
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HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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Really??? Because maybe you would have checked this out before hand... Or possibly looked into it's predecessor the V10... There is this really cool stuff you can do, those of us with common sense call it research... It's a nice thing to fall back on before dropping $700 USD on a phone. Or you could take it back and get an led... Either way I implore you to quit crying, and leave this thread open for real issues like my V20 picking out mismatched socks this morning.
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ZDeuce2 said:
Really??? Because maybe you would have checked this out before hand... Or possibly looked into it's predecessor the V10... There is this really cool stuff you can do, those of us with common sense call it research... It's a nice thing to fall back on before dropping $700 USD on a phone. Or you could take it back and get an led... Either way I implore you to quit crying, and leave this thread open for real issues like my V20 picking out mismatched socks this morning.
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Sup Zac!
We all knew before we bought this phone that it didn't and wouldn't have a led so why complain about it just move on.
HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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I don't understand why you are ranting about it not having a notification LED. It was never advertised to have one. If it really irks you so much please take it back and spare us all the long rant. You should have done your research before buying this phone. In fact, if the LED was so important for you why didn't you check if it had one in the shop before brining it home? I don't think you should keep a phone you're not satisfied with. Just please return it.
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HikariNoKitsune said:
I don't know why LG decided to do this....
A) No Notification LED? Seriously? That's a serious thing to just 'not have'... IDC if the second screen shows notifications... a second screen with its backlight turned off 95% of the time does NOT make for a good 'hey you have a message!' system... You can't see it at all... and I'm currently less than a foot away from the phone! Its sitting on the desk right in front of me and I can't SEE the second screen what so ever. Now if I move closer to it, then I can make out the date and time, but when its just sitting on the desk its impossible. I wish I had another device to take a picture so people could see just what I'm getting at here...
Sure some people people will just say 'well its the second screen, all notifications go there and its honestly way better!'... but to me its not. I don't know about anyone else, but say you set your phone down on the table next to you in the living room. You're watching a movie and decide to pause it so you can get something to drink. You leave the phone on the table. You come back with your drink, and one of two things can happen depending on the implementation.
1) You have a phone with a Notification LED. You see it flashing so you sit down and pick up the phone to reply to whatever is going on.
2) You have a phone without a Notification LED. You don't notice anything on the phone as you glance towards it, so you sit down and resume the movie, potentially missing that you have 20 missed calls from your mother/father who is trying to get a hold of you because your mother/father was just in a serious car wreck and is dying in a hospital...
A Notification LED is something that should just be a god damn given on every phone in existence...
B) When you have your phone set to 'vibrate', the Notification Sound and Touch Feedback & System dials are MUTED. When I get a text message or an email, there is no vibration AT ALL. Yet the phone's sound profile is set to VIBRATE.... I don't understand this at all... A smart phone in today's day and age, is mainly used for non-audio means of communication... ei text messages, kik messages, whatsapp messages, facebook messages, hangouts messages, and whatever other messaging platforms that exist out there.... So why make it so that their only means of telling you that something is going on, is disabled when you turn it to vibrate? People put their devices on vibrate so that they can receive their notifications without disturbing people around them... If people wanted to ignore the notifications completely, they'd just put the damn phone on silent!
I personally have a room mate. I try to respect them by keeping my phone on 'vibrate' so they can sleep and to generally just not bug them with loud sounds every time someone texts. But with the V20, I just CAN'T do that now. I have no indication that I've received ANYTHING.... No LED blinking at me, no vibrations grabbing my attention, nothing!
C) The sounds for notifications, when I do end up having them on, are terrible... Not the sounds themselves, but how they seem to 'work'. If I get a text message, it'll be blaringly loud when only set to half volume. Then I get an email or something, and the notification is so soft you can barely hear it. Then another email comes in and suddenly its freaking loud as hell again! Then maybe I get another text message, and it'll be back to being super quiet...
Its like the sound level for notifications changes every other notification!
With all that said, and my anger fueled rant almost at its completion... I'm at my wits end with this phone. I love its features, but hate its usability. I need a phone that tells me when **** is going on. Not a phone that's off in la la land. Not a phone that I have to actively check every few minutes to see if someone's messaged or an important email has arrived. I seriously hoped that after all the crap I saw people complaining about on the V10 notification wise, that LG would get their act together and make a good notification system or at least add a freaking LED! -sigh- so here's hoping that after two phones being released in this manner, some amazing dev out there finds a way to control the second screen without needing root (I like using Android Pay...) so that it has some sort of 'breathing' color effect or something whenever a notification is there. With a screen that large, it doesn't even need to really blink all that frequently like an LED normally would... could just have it do it maybe every 30 seconds. It'd be bright enough and large enough to grab your attention instantly, unlike a tiny little LED...
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Try Tasker App...it might be a helpful solution to your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/2nd-screen-flash-text-message-tasker-t3490220
I have it installed and I think it is better...
HikariNoKitsune said:
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I just want you to know I thanked your post because you actually took the time to type all that up and then you posted it.
It was either do or die sir and you died spectacularly. It was a rant worthy of a proper send-off.
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Well, I understand where the op is coming from. When my internet at home dies, I turn into the hulk and want to smash things lol. Technology has that effect on us haha.
I used to take time setting the colors of my led notifications to know which app has a notification. I got the v20 knowing it didn't have one but didn't think it was that important. I figured i used my phone a lot that I'll be picking it up anyways even without a blinking light.
Turns out, I got used to the 2nd screen and don't miss the led notifications one bit. To the original poster, try the few suggestions here or just start picking up your phone periodically to look at the 2nd screen. If none of that works for you, then maybe you do need to return the phone.
But I think if you give it time, your habits will adapt to the phone eventually. ?
RiNo808 said:
I use no led app in the play Store. It blinks on the main screen... How this helps...
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Damn. How did I not know about this? But then you don't know about things until you need them. This is just what I needed.