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I must be doing something wrong, but can't figure out what
I wanted to enable fast charge, cause my device drains more battery than it charges, I installed the "fast charge" app from the play store, but it always says my kernel is unsupported.
I've already tried these kernels:
-franco (franco kernel updater)
-fugumod (fugumod updater)
-trinity (trinity kernel toolkit)
-faux (fauxClock)
-timur
and I've searched in each app for a place to switch it on but couldn't find it anywhere.
I'm running cyanogenmod 10.1
the tablet is rooted and unlocked.
anyone any idea what could be the problem?
thanks for your time!
Give NCX Kernel a go, I'm nearly 100% sure (99.9999%) that has fastcharge enabled.
Wilks3y said:
Give NCX Kernel a go, I'm nearly 100% sure (99.9999%) that has fastcharge enabled.
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so far, I've been unable to find a zip with that NCX kernel, so I could flash it, can you provide me with a link or something?
I only find .img files, and I'm unsure what I have to do with them :s
Don't waste your time. If you tread the reviews, your problem is common with that app. Download Trickster Mod and use that asp.
Also, fast charge isn't going to have any effect if you're plugged into an ac outlet.
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Like najaboy said, fast charge has no effect using an ac charger. Only speeds up charging if your charging via USB.
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Does fast charge via USB even exist for the nexus 7, because so far this seems like some sort of vapourware joke that doesn't exist.
My device is shot, the headphone jack has gone bad, and now regardless of what I do I will always get charging from USB. It won't connect to the PC, and won't power devices from an otg cable, I even made a fast charge usb cable that tricks the device into thinking its an ac power source..... It works with everything but this, so its safe to assume that if indeed there is no fast charge I will take great pleasure in smashing this to bits.
Has to be up there with the first generation Xbox 360 as one of the worst build quality devices ever made.
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Like najaboy said, fast charge has no effect using an ac charger. Only speeds up charging if your charging via USB.
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And even then only if the active USB device (e.g. powered hub) is also designed to not current clamp or fault-open at currents above 500 mA. It takes two to tango.
Even when it does work, it's nowhere near as fast as a 2A AC adapter, btw.
USB 3 can output 900mA
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Any change to resolve this issue?
I have a 2A usb car charger, but is I use GPS programs (like waze) , battery drain in too high , and charging current is not enough.
Any Fast Charge supporting kernel could be the solution.
It worked very well in my previous Galaxy Nexus phone.
Any idea?
spidertop said:
Any change to resolve this issue?
I have a 2A usb car charger, but is I use GPS programs (like waze) , battery drain in too high , and charging current is not enough.
Any Fast Charge supporting kernel could be the solution.
It worked very well in my previous Galaxy Nexus phone.
Any idea?
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A kernel with fast charge is inapplicable to your situation. You simply need ausb cable that had the d+ and d- pins shorted.
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I have a Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 i815.
It's an amazing tablet for video playback because of the large AMOLED screen. Comparable to plasma screens.
So, the problem I have is that while it's great for this, it is also extremely picky on the charger. Basically, the only thing I can get to recharge this is with the Samsung usb charger that plugs into power.
It will not even charge from the computer.
And of course, it refuses to charge from portable power banks. This is kind of a big deal because the battery life of this tablet is pretty bad, so being able to use a power bank would be great.
Any idea why this is? How to fix? Maybe I just have a bad unit? What's going on?
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I have a Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 i815.
It's an amazing tablet for video playback because of the large AMOLED screen. Comparable to plasma screens.
So, the problem I have is that while it's great for this, it is also extremely picky on the charger. Basically, the only thing I can get to recharge this is with the Samsung usb charger that plugs into power.
It will not even charge from the computer.
And of course, it refuses to charge from portable power banks. This is kind of a big deal because the battery life of this tablet is pretty bad, so being able to use a power bank would be great.
Any idea why this is? How to fix? Maybe I just have a bad unit? What's going on?
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You need an adapter to charge with computer or battery or anything besides the stock charger. I was trying to find one on ebay without success. I will look again. The one I have is made by Pizen and was $2.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-Samsung...=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item1c36f25bea
You need something like this.
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taiwwa said:
I have a Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 i815.
It's an amazing tablet for video playback because of the large AMOLED screen. Comparable to plasma screens.
So, the problem I have is that while it's great for this, it is also extremely picky on the charger. Basically, the only thing I can get to recharge this is with the Samsung usb charger that plugs into power.
It will not even charge from the computer.
And of course, it refuses to charge from portable power banks. This is kind of a big deal because the battery life of this tablet is pretty bad, so being able to use a power bank would be great.
Any idea why this is? How to fix? Maybe I just have a bad unit? What's going on?
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Mine (a P6800) charges normally from USB (only with the screen off and charges VERY slowly, though; despite the battery icon showing an "X") and from my power bank. That power bank is chinese, got it from DealExtreme, and puts out 2A of current (the same as the stock charger). The battery icon also shows an "X" when charging from it, though.
Are you sure it doesn't charge? Or does it display an "X" but still charges when not in use?
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Mine (a P6800) charges normally from USB (only with the screen off and charges VERY slowly, though; despite the battery icon showing an "X") and from my power bank. That power bank is chinese, got it from DealExtreme, and puts out 2A of current (the same as the stock charger). The battery icon also shows an "X" when charging from it, though.
Are you sure it doesn't charge? Or does it display an "X" but still charges when not in use?
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Just for info.
The stock kernel will allow only USB charge at a rate of 450mA, regardless of a power bank or PC USB connection. Max AC is 1500mA.
my P6800/P6810 SkyHigh kernel will USB charge up to AC max (1500mA), using same device circuitry. The kernel is also modded to allow charging icon animation when connected to USB power source. This is because it thinks the source is AC. There are no System.UI.apk changes needed
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how do you install this?
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how do you install this?
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Sorry, the kernel will only work on P6800/P6810 devices (if that's what you're referring to). Was was info about charging rates...
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Just for info.
The stock kernel will allow only USB charge at a rate of 450mA, regardless of a power bank or PC USB connection. Max AC is 1500mA.
my P6800/P6810 SkyHigh kernel will USB charge up to AC max (1500mA), using same device circuitry. The kernel is also modded to allow charging icon animation when connected to USB power source. This is because it thinks the source is AC. There are no System.UI.apk changes needed
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AC max is 1.5A? Weird... The charger is good for 2A, and we've got more than enough battery to charge at 2A safely. Any way to increase the AC limit on your kernel, maybe configurable by a file/variable/etc?
And I'm pretty sure the device charges at more than 450mA from my power bank. Just checked, and realized that the charging icon appears normally (on stock 4.1 kernel). Galaxy Charging Current reports a 2A current on my S3 (Temasek kernel, adjusted for a maximum of 2000 mA on AC, 1200 mA on USB3 and 650 mA on USB2). Some power banks appear exactly like an AC charger as far as the USB connection is concerned.
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AC max is 1.5A? Weird... The charger is good for 2A, and we've got more than enough battery to charge at 2A safely. Any way to increase the AC limit on your kernel, maybe configurable by a file/variable/etc?
And I'm pretty sure the device charges at more than 450mA from my power bank. Just checked, and realized that the charging icon appears normally (on stock 4.1 kernel). Galaxy Charging Current reports a 2A current on my S3 (Temasek kernel, adjusted for a maximum of 2000 mA on AC, 1200 mA on USB3 and 650 mA on USB2). Some power banks appear exactly like an AC charger as far as the USB connection is concerned.
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Why weird? Is all in the P6800 kernel source code.... I've not mentioned SGS3 ....
Those apps may just detect the source input, not the actual charge rate limited by kernel. Big difference afraid.
If the P6800 stock kernel detects it being charged as USB, all you will actually get is max 450mA. Same goes for AC, may show the source input greater, but charging rate is limited to max 1500mA. You can see my kernel commits on gitHub and study for yourself.
Remember, those charging current apps while useful, do have a large degree of variance as well.
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UpInTheAir said:
Why weird? Is all in the P6800 kernel source code.... I've not mentioned SGS3 ....
Those apps may just detect the source input, not the actual charge rate limited by kernel. Big difference afraid.
If the P6800 stock kernel detects it being charged as USB, all you will actually get is max 450mA. Same goes for AC, may show the source input greater, but charging rate is limited to max 1500mA. You can see my kernel commits on gitHub and study for yourself.
Remember, those charging current apps while useful, do have a large degree of variance as well.
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Weird because the charger that comes with the P6800 is rated 2A, and the P6800 battery is big enough to charge at 2A and stay under 0.7C. There is no reason at all to limit the charge to only 1.5A, unless the circuitry won't handle that (which would be a bad screwup by Samsung). I just asked if it is possible to change this "hard" limit on your kernel. I didn't mention the I9300 on this point, only as an example of a device where this is adjustable on custom kernels (it's also adjustable on your I9500, by the way, check Perseus kernel).
Actually, that app detect the actual charge rate as limited by the kernel (on the I9300). That app doesn't work on the P6800, because the kernel doesn't output those values. On the I9300, some kernels allow you to configure the maximum input current (@5V, from the charger) and the maximum current output (@~4.35V, to charge the battery). But that is not important; my point was just that some power banks (like mine) have the exact same USB connection as a regular wall charger, so the phone/tablet/whatever sees it as a regular wall charger even on stock kernel. The OP could search for one of those, if his device charges normally from wall chargers it will charge from a power bank like this.
And BTW, Apple chargers are crap, they won't output full current unless they detect an Apple device. So, no Android/WP/etc will charge correctly from an Apple charger.
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Weird because the charger that comes with the P6800 is rated 2A, and the P6800 battery is big enough to charge at 2A and stay under 0.7C. There is no reason at all to limit the charge to only 1.5A, unless the circuitry won't handle that (which would be a bad screwup by Samsung). I just asked if it is possible to change this "hard" limit on your kernel. I didn't mention the I9300 on this point, only as an example of a device where this is adjustable on custom kernels (it's also adjustable on your I9500, by the way, check Perseus kernel).
Actually, that app detect the actual charge rate as limited by the kernel (on the I9300). That app doesn't work on the P6800, because the kernel doesn't output those values. On the I9300, some kernels allow you to configure the maximum input current (@5V, from the charger) and the maximum current output (@~4.35V, to charge the battery). But that is not important; my point was just that some power banks (like mine) have the exact same USB connection as a regular wall charger, so the phone/tablet/whatever sees it as a regular wall charger even on stock kernel. The OP could search for one of those, if his device charges normally from wall chargers it will charge from a power bank like this.
And BTW, Apple chargers are crap, they won't output full current unless they detect an Apple device. So, no Android/WP/etc will charge correctly from an Apple charger.
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Comparing kernels from different boards and CPU etc is like comparing apples and oranges.
If I could make the charge current configurable in my kernel, don't you think I would have already? Not everything is "cut and paste" and I expended allot of time in trying to port the mod for our current hardware.
Yeah, I've used just about all the kernels (at time of owing device) including perseus, siyah etc, do have good experienceI with configurable kernel charge. After using/having SGS2 x2, SGS3 x1, SGS4 x1 and SGT P6810 x1, it's not the first time I've heard of it.....
I won't be increasing max charge rate on the SkyHigh kernel above 1500mA. This generally increases battery heat and shortens lifespan.
On stock kernel + unmodified systemUI.apk for battery charge icons, if the kernel detects ANY charge source as USB, the max rate will be 450 mA. You will not see any battery charging animation (just the red x), which is a "sure fire way" to check.
In short, on our SGT-7.7, under stock conditions, if you connect ANY charging source and you DON'T have the battery charge animation, it will be USB charge at 450mA max.
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Comparing kernels from different boards and CPU etc is like comparing apples and oranges.
If I could make the charge current configurable in my kernel, don't you think I would have already? Not everything is "cut and paste" and I expended allot of time in trying to port the mod for our current hardware.
Yeah, I've used just about all the kernels (at time of owing device) including perseus, siyah etc, do have good experienceI with configurable kernel charge. After using/having SGS2 x2, SGS3 x1, SGS4 x1 and SGT P6810 x1, it's not the first time I've heard of it.....
I won't be increasing max charge rate on the SkyHigh kernel above 1500mA. This generally increases battery heat and shortens lifespan.
On stock kernel + unmodified systemUI.apk for battery charge icons, if the kernel detects ANY charge source as USB, the max rate will be 450 mA. You will not see any battery charging animation (just the red x), which is a "sure fire way" to check.
In short, on our SGT-7.7, under stock conditions, if you connect ANY charging source and you DON'T have the battery charge animation, it will be USB charge at 450mA max.
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I didn't say it would be an easy/simple port, I just asked if it was possible. I didn't look at your github (and I have almost no experience with the P6800 kernel)... You know your sources better than anyone else, so I assumed you would understand better than I do what (and where) would need to be changed. I'm not diminishing your work or your effort in any way, shape or form; I respect the developers who stuck with this amazing device for so long, and who continue to make it usable way past what Samsung intended.
Our battery has a total capacity of 5100 mAh. From http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries:
The charge rate of a typical consumer Li-ion battery is between 0.5 and 1C
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That gives us a "safe" maximum charging rate of between 2550 mA and 5100 mA. 0.7C is generally agreed as a good rate for this first stage charge for Li-Po batteries, which means 3570 mA; the regulators on the tablet will reduce the rate when needed. Generally, charging Li-ion/Li-po batteries at such a low rate (~0.3C) is detrimental to the battery max charge, and a major screwup by Samsung (and explains why my P6800's battery doesn't last as long now as it did on its first month); that is why I asked. But that was just a question. If you won't do it, I respect your position.
About charging from the power bank, I don't get your point. As I said, when I plug my P6800 on my power bank, I don't get the red X; I see the regular charging animation, and the device charges as fast as it does on the stock wall charger (which is just an adapter that presents an USB connection where you plug the tablet's cable). I understand that when the tablet recognizes it's on a standard USB port, it will use the lower charge rate. But "power-only" USB ports, such as the one on the Samsung wall charger and the one on some power banks, will be recognized as power-only connections (or as the same as the Samsung wall charger), and will charge the device as fast as the kernel allows.
My power bank (this model to be precise) is detected as an AC charger on both my I9300 and my P6800, and would be a good option for the OP.
Don't get my point? Please 're-read the last paragraph in my previous post carefully.... I wasn't disputing your claim, but explaining about the battery charge icon.
Obviously your power bank has some "trickery" to fool the device as AC charge. Probably a resistor combo across the lines inside the source. This being the case, makes a good option for OP (or anyone else) on stock.
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Don't get my point? Please 're-read the last paragraph in my previous post carefully.... I wasn't disputing your claim, but explaining about the battery charge icon.
Obviously your power bank has some "trickery" to fool the device as AC charge. Probably a resistor combo across the lines inside the source. This being the case, makes a good option for OP (or anyone else) on stock.
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yeah, one of my power banks would trick my tab on one of its ports. some resistor thing.
Its due to having resistors put across the data lines.
This is done to trigger the tablet into AC charging mode.
the wall charger has this done to it.
some batterys have a samsung charger cable or a micro usb adapter.
This adapter has resisters inside it.
i have one of these and charges on ac charging.
if i get another cable such as data or car charger etc..
it wont trigger charge even on 2 amps.
good news is a adapter can be made to go from usb to usb...look it up it has 2 resisters in it and also shorts the data lines to each other.
MRBR7 said:
Its due to having resistors put across the data lines.
This is done to trigger the tablet into AC charging mode.
the wall charger has this done to it.
some batterys have a samsung charger cable or a micro usb adapter.
This adapter has resisters inside it.
i have one of these and charges on ac charging.
if i get another cable such as data or car charger etc..
it wont trigger charge even on 2 amps.
good news is a adapter can be made to go from usb to usb...look it up it has 2 resisters in it and also shorts the data lines to each other.
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Just as I presumed. Thanks
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I have a charger that has two usb ports in it. One says ipad and the other galaxy tab.
If I use the ipad one and use it on the 7.7 it thinks an usb device is connected, shows the charging icon and also the red x, but doesn't charge. I think it just has to do with the voltage it receives on certain pins, but what is the meaning of the cross?
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I have a charger that has two usb ports in it. One says ipad and the other galaxy tab.
If I use the ipad one and use it on the 7.7 it thinks an usb device is connected, shows the charging icon and also the red x, but doesn't charge. I think it just has to do with the voltage it receives on certain pins, but what is the meaning of the cross?
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As it will accept a max of 450mA on detected "USB charge", it still should charge, but very slowly.
If you leave the screen off for a while, you should see the battery % indicator increase. If you use the tab while on detected USB charge, the device may consume more current than 450mA, hence the battery % indicator may not increase but instead decrease.
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Disappointed that the xperia z5 charger only has an output of 1500mA. I've read on forums where some xperia z5 owners were given the 1800mA (I think) out of the box. My previous Samsung Galaxy S4 had an output of 2100mA so I'm wondering if I used that charger can the xperia z5 take advantage of the extra mA?
Nope I had to use another charger to get the fast charge up and running
Still with any fast charger i get 1600ma to the z5, while my s5 juiced 1800ma
How are you testing to get these figures?
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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Ampere from play store.
I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
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I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
Ah I apologise I don't actually have a new charger only an older charger I'll have a look at the rating later. It would however accept the Samsung charger I'll have a dig around for the ratings in the data sheets
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Yes u can use 2A chargers wont hurt your phone or battery.
Try it and make comparison how long it takes to fully charge ur phone.
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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I'm going to use my old samsung galaxy s4 charger in that case. I have no idea why Sony is supplying a mediocre 1.5A charger. Even the 1.8A is still too slow for the current size of batteries in smartphones
I didn't even get a charger with mine as O2 are too cheap to provide one.
I'm using Samsung S6 fast charger and LG G4 normal charger.
Fast charging works very well.
I actually use a Blackberry 2.0 Amp charger, and it definitely charges all my phones (Z5,Z3,Z1) faster than the stock Sony charger. My Sony charger says 1.5 Amp and it's ok, just not as quick.
The Blackberry charger has the added advantage of having a nice long lead, as opposed to the short lead which Sony provides. It is a dedicated charger only though, so you can't use it for file transfers.
Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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The Z3 Compact series has gone through these same discoveries. Sony (for some reason) doesn't FULLY support QC 2.0 charging speeds. You'll only see about 1.5 amps when charging with the phone on, and maybe a bump to 1.8 when the phone is powered off (not just screen off). Because of this, 2 amp tablet chargers are effectively just as capable as the expensive quick chargers.
To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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DeathStroke said:
To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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Where's the proof of that?
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Where's the proof of that?
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Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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DeathStroke said:
Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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There is still no proof that it will cause heating and degrade the battery life though. The phone will only ask for so much draw that it can handle from the charger I'm all good for people correcting something however you need to provide proper proof to show it is a fact
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It is well known and has been proven many times that the faster you charge a battery the hotter it gets and less charge cycles it lasts.
Sometimes it might be necessary to do a quick charge, but i don't think it is a good idea to QC your batteries every day.
Hi, I bought Z3+ two days ago. Fast Charger is taking around 2 hours 15 mins to full charge the phone in switch on mode. Is it the actual time to charge it with Fast Charger?
If I connected it to PC USB Cable, the charging time is very slow. Is there is any tips improve it?
Thanks in advance
What fast charger are you using? 2:15 sounds reasonable to me though I never really stopped time on a quick charge 2.0. PC usb Ports output 500 mA, which is far less than even the stock sony charger outputs, so no there is no way to speed that up.
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Hi, I bought Z3+ two days ago. Fast Charger is taking around 2 hours 15 mins to full charge the phone in switch on mode. Is it the actual time to charge it with Fast Charger?
If I connected it to PC USB Cable, the charging time is very slow. Is there is any tips improve it?
Thanks in advance
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I use quick charger to charge my Z3+ almost every day.. The charging rate is around up 1% per minute.. Usually I turn off the phone while doing so because using quick charger makes the phone quiet hot compared to when using normal charger, and that makes the charging rate just a bit more faster..
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I use quick charger to charge my Z3+ almost every day.. The charging rate is around up 1% per minute.. Usually I turn off the phone while doing so because using quick charger makes the phone quiet hot compared to when using normal charger, and that makes the charging rate just a bit more faster..
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Thanks for the reply, I have got Fast Charger with the phone. But it is also taking around 2 hours 30 Mins for full charge when the phone is switch on mode. That is why I asked about the charging time.
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What fast charger are you using? 2:15 sounds reasonable to me though I never really stopped time on a quick charge 2.0. PC usb Ports output 500 mA, which is far less than even the stock sony charger outputs, so no there is no way to speed that up.
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Thanks for the reply, I am using the Fast Charger bundled with Z3+.
It did not come bundled with a fast charger here. You mean quick charge 2.0?
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It did not come bundled with a fast charger here. You mean quick charge 2.0?
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Sorry, If "Fast Charger" is diff from "Quick Charger". I have received Quick Charger bundled with Z3+ which is taking more than 2 hours for full charge the phone.
Is it saying "quick charge 2.0" somewhere on the charger? It's a brand by Qualcomm and is faster than just a charger with high Ampere.
The point is that the charge which bundled with Z3+ just a normal charger!! ( well if you think it is)
All you need is a charger with qc2.0
Yep, although QC will wear out your battery faster.
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The point is that the charge which bundled with Z3+ just a normal charger!! ( well if you think it is)
All you need is a charger with qc2.0
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But, I received a Quick Charge 2 compatible charger bundled with Z3+
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But, I received a Quick Charge 2 compatible charger bundled with Z3+
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Prics of Quick Charge 2 compatible Charger bundled with Z3+
I don't see the QC logo and quick charge 2.0 on your pic. And fast charge is not quick charge. My fast charge completed in about 2.5 hours. My quick charger does it in just over an hour. So I also got a quick charge battery booster as well. Both are by anker and I got on Amazon. Well worth it.
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Prics of Quick Charge 2 compatible Charger bundled with Z3+
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I think the charger is really a quick charger since it have multiple output settings.. But I have read on one of the threads here that QC2.0 does not much boost the charging time of Z3+.. Specially the dual sim variant.. Remember that sony only said that the single variant is the only one that is QC2.0 compatible..
I have encountered a problem with the charging speed of my Xperia Z3+. I have got the single SIM variant and according to the internet it should support QC 2.0. But in reality when I want to charge my device it doesn't feel like QC 2.0. For comparison I have downloaded an app called Ampere on my Z3+ and my Z3 Tablet Compact (its chipset also supports QC2.0 and it seems to work flawlessly) and it displays the current charging flow speed if I'm not wrong. I will attach two screenshots, the higher number of flow is from the tablet and the other of course from my Z3+. Anybody know what might be the problem? I have used the same charger with the same cable.
We all know that the Qualcomm Hardware which is in our Sony Xperia Z2 theoraticlaly support Quick Charge 2.0! However, we also know that Sony blocked this feature by simply not adding the quick charge code in our OS which is obviously Android. BUT since the new and final Marshmallow 6.0.1 Update 23.5.A.1.291 rolled for the Z2 there have been some rumors about this topic. These rumors are about potential quick charge 2.0 support for this device. Well, I did some testing using the new Quick Charger and the normal one from Sony. I bought the QC 3.0 model because it supports QC2.0 as well. Let`s find out if quick charge 2.0 indeed work on the XPERIA Z2. The charging may be different for your Z2 because I use different settings and background apps. CHECK OUT THE RESULTS AND THEN READ THE CONCLUSION! SPOILER! YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED :crying:
Device: Xperia Z2 D6503
slightly undervolted: -30mV
Android 6.0.1 build 291
used chargers:
Stock SONY charger
Ye!! 3in1 Charger (I used the 2.1A port)
Aukey Quick Charge 3.0
Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 + Jackos_QuickCharge2.0_rev5.zip
COMPARISON
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10 minutes charging with normal Charger by SONY (1m cable)
max: 1200mA
average: 1090mA
max battery temp: 34.5 degree celsius
percent gained: 3%
start: 30%
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10 minutes charging with 2.1A Tablet Charger by Ye!! (1m cable)
max:990mA
average: 970mA
max battery temp: 33.9 degree celsius
percent gained: 3%
start: 37%
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10 minutes charging with Quick Charge 2.0 by AUKEY (1m cable)
max: 1230mA
average: 1050mA
max battery temp: 41.3 degree celsius
percent gained: 3%
start: 25%
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10 minutes charging with Quick Charge 2.0 by AUKEY (1m cable) + jackos_qcboost zip
max: 1670mA
average: 1640mA
max battery temp: 40.3 degree celsius
percent gained: 6-7%
start: 40%
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SCREENSHOTS↓SONY CHARGER↓ Sorry the value is that low because my charger is broken
↓Ye!! 2.1A CHARGER↓
↓QUICK CHARGE 3.0 AUKEY↓
CONCLUSION:
Well now you saw the results. What do you think? I am sorry that I have to say that but no, Quick Charge 2.0 isn`t supported in build 23.5.A.1.291! If Quick Charge 2.0 would be supported we could charge our Z2 with 2000mA = 2A instead of only ~1200mA. But you can still charge your phone faster using jackos quick charge zip which allows you to get a charging speed up to 1650mA while charging wiht a QC2.0 charger. @Jackos method works on Android Lollipop and Android Marshmallow (inlcuding all builds). The Bootloader can be LOCKED AND UNLOCKED! Check out the thread, if you are using a wuick charger it`s totally worth it! Yes, I know, we all hoped that we can now charge our phone with 2A but build 291 was officially the last one and we won`t get real Quick Charge 2.0 unless somebody builds a kernel which is based on build 291.
JACKOS QUICK CHARGE HACK FOR 1650mA CHARGING SPEED ON ANDROID MARSHMALLOW
used quick charger:
Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 Charger
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01AHWOH54/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Jackos Quick Charge 2.0 flashable Zip:
THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490
Download Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62713192&postcount=255
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Do you feel that the battery drains faster when charging with the quick charger rather than the normal sony charger. I once bought a tronsmart quick charge 2.0 charger it also gave high mA but in returned drained the battery faster.Any help will be appreciated.
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Do you feel that the battery drains faster when charging with the quick charger rather than the normal sony charger. I once bought a tronsmart quick charge 2.0 charger it also gave high mA but in returned drained the battery faster.Any help will be appreciated.
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i can tell you that tomorrow. i got the charger today and in austria it`s 18:30 now so i have to wait a few hours for checking that
Thanks for the quick reply. I will be waiting
I will flash the "Jackos_QuickCharge2.0_rev5.zip" from the Android 5.1.1 QC 2.0 hack and test if the charging is faster
Broken cable maybe? I'm on 4.4.2 Still and get max 1500Ma from the Sony charger and cable.
Only on 4.4.2 because I only just got this phone (Demo Unit) and had to flash stock Firmware
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Broken cable maybe? I'm on 4.4.2 Still and get max 1500Ma from the Sony charger and cable.
Only on 4.4.2 because I only just got this phone (Demo Unit) and had to flash stock Firmware
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maybe. i try the 1m cable which got with the quick charger
but the comparison between quick charger and quick charger+zip is quite interesting. to be honest, when I look at these two result I don`t believe that sony provides us the quci kcharge 2.0 feature
i used QC 2.0 from 4 mouth ago when up top 6.0.1 and them working like you (using Quick Charge 2.0 by AUKEY(model PA-T2) + 1m cable + jackos_qcboost zip) 1600~1650 mAh, but i can't chaging to 2000~ mAh like thread hack qC 2.0 for 5.1.1
Charging up to 2000mA is only possible with kernel modifications.
BTW What is the purpose of this thread? This is nothing new and there is already a thread for enabling QC2.0 on Z2.
The new firmware .291 changes nothing in this regard.
Tronsmart Quick Charge 2.0 on Jackos Mod
This is what I'm getting using Tronsmart quick charge 2.0 on Rooted 291 thru usb.. Using magnetic cable it gives me 1600ma but not as stable as the usb port
It really charges faster..
By the way...I've been using Tronsmart quick charge 2.0 for Almost 1 Year and a Half now.. And still Rocks!!! Plan of getting Tronsmart 3.0 very Soon.. I'll try to compare
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Charging up to 2000mA is only possible with kernel modifications.
BTW What is the purpose of this thread? This is nothing new and there is already a thread for enabling QC2.0 on Z2.
The new firmware .291 changes nothing in this regard.
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well because many people are confused right now. some say that 291 officially supports qc2.0 without your flashable zip and without the quick charge kernel for 5.1.1
this shows exactly what you mentioned. that nothing changed ^^
thats why I started this thread to compare and see if a quick charger really gets up to 2A while charging on 291 which would have shown us that qc works but even with your zip we only get around 1600mA which is good but not fully supported quick charge
and we all know that the full quick charge hack for the z2 only works on 5.1.1
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By the way...I've been using Tronsmart quick charge 2.0 for Almost 1 Year and a Half now.. And still Rocks!!! Plan of getting Tronsmart 3.0 very Soon.. I'll try to compare
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there won`t be a difference. maybe the mA value is more stable while charging but it won`t increase...
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i used QC 2.0 from 4 mouth ago when up top 6.0.1 and them working like you (using Quick Charge 2.0 by AUKEY(model PA-T2) + 1m cable + jackos_qcboost zip) 1600~1650 mAh, but i can't chaging to 2000~ mAh like thread hack qC 2.0 for 5.1.1
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thats because quick charge 2.0 isn`t supported by build 291. too bad but thats why i started this thread to find out. for Android 6.0.1 you can only improve your charging speed by flashing jackos quick charge zip, but this only gets you up to 1650mA which is good but no real quick charge! i made this thread to show u guys that qucik charge 2.0 isn`t supported
does the battery drain faster while using quick charge 2.0 charger rather than the stock sony
Anyone know how to turn off this stupid "no full charge" thing it popped up saying phone won't fully charge to prolong battery life bla bla bla!
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Anyone know how to turn off this stupid "no full charge" thing it popped up saying phone won't fully charge to prolong battery life bla bla bla!
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go into setting then about phone then status and there will be charging optimization turn that off.
lol two people didn`t fully read my thread. those two still think that qc22.0 is supported xd
I charge my Z2 with Jackos' zip @ 1700 mA, it takes around 1 hour from 20% to 100% So how can you say QC 2.0 isn't supported? Does it have to be 2000 mA?