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Hello fellow Xperia Z owners. I have had a chance to play with the new Xperia Z1. Here is my short hands on and an answer to whether you should upgrade Hope you will enjoy the video
The only thing that stops me to upgrade is camera issue wehen unlock bootloader
FakeSmile said:
The only thing that stops me to upgrade is camera issue wehen unlock bootloader
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At the moment there are pretty much no ROMs available anyways. You can still root the phone. I am sure that Sony will provide a bootloader unlocking solution that doesn't break the camera soon.
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I have Z almost 8 months, and I will be back to Samsung fastest I can. Z1 is the same s... like Z. That is my opinion.
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I would never buy a samsung phone cause every samsung phone os UGLY.Doesn't matter what specifications the phone have.
zirado said:
I have Z almost 8 months, and I will be back to Samsung fastest I can. Z1 is the same s... like Z. That is my opinion.
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hmm..Z1 potentially is the best Android ever. I'm going to wait the great work of devs
anyway, if you like Samsung plastics you have to read here before doing reckless actions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
Sony decided to update our Z1 to Android 5.0 Lollipop...
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
Super! Thanks for your information!
Sony used to be lazy in doing updates
I didnt expect even Xperia Z will have Android L
This is great. I just hope we would get the Ultra Stamina Mode and Vivid mode but justvkeeping my fingers crossed.
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wow, that is great
Amazing!!!
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KWOKSFUNG said:
Sony used to be lazy in doing updates
I didnt expect even Xperia Z will have Android L
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Not true, Sony was used to be lazy, now Sony is become the fastest to bring update..... Z1 was the first phone to get the 4.4.4 update before all other brand.... GREAT SONY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Excelent!
That kind of behavior puts Sony as the first for my next smartphone / tablet.
The way they keep supporting "older" devices and the fact that their "skin" is light and not intrusive (cough* cough* samsung) is a big plus in my mind!
I wounder if they will enable features like 4k / 120+FPS on the Z1 with the update. That would be awesome to get thoses things natively!
Any ROM makers planning on making a custom rom when it comes out? I'd love for a 5.0 rom real soon.
cingolat said:
Not true, Sony was used to be lazy, now Sony is become the fastest to bring update..... Z1 was the first phone to get the 4.4.4 update before all other brand.... GREAT SONY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
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I also love how quick to announce these updates they were, and even included variants (Z1s, z3v) so we don't have to assume. Great support!
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I hope Material Design + Xperia Theme = Awesome ?
However I do not expect much from Sony so I will not be disappointed once the update will be available lol
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[Fenix] said:
I hope Material Design + Xperia Theme = Awesome ?
However I do not expect much from Sony so I will not be disappointed once the update will be available lol
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Agreed ,I'm not expecting much. The update itself will be fine to me, any additional tweaks or stuff they add will be a bonus. Not expecting a miracle update ..just glad they're giving us the update.
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Agreed ,I'm not expecting much. The update itself will be fine to me, any additional tweaks or stuff they add will be a bonus. Not expecting a miracle update ..just glad they're giving us the update.
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If only the L features are there, which will be....that alone will make the device a whole lot better standby battery life wise and camera tweaks will help immensely. Many features users here on our Z1 forums have been wanting from the Z2/Z3 are there by default, an ultra stamina mode(restricted performance to drastically improve battery life in cases of emergencies), double tap to wake, move to wake, more camera controls(RAW, Exposure control, shutter speed and better quality photos).
Even if some of these aren't implemented on stock Sony apps the updated google apps for 5.0 will have them. I'm not expecting much from Sony's side either, but as long as they just update it, which they will, Google's tweaks alone will make things significantly better.
Problem is Sony ROMs are quite buggy. They haven't fixed the Camera not available issue yet and all headphones stop working randomly every 2-3 days and phone needs to be restarted. There's also a delay in the lock screen unlocking process. If they simply update to 5.0 and make it really bug free I'm happy.
Omg yessssss, they even confirmed Z1s, which is my lame phone hoorayyy victorryyyyy
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Also, since Android Lolipop said it's going to have a new type of camera api, that probably means our cameras will be going full potential possibly, same goes for the Xperia Z where people said it had horrible quality for a 13mp? was it or 8? i forget, other wise I hope our camera improves a lot since it's one of Android L's new features, or so iread somewhere
We all knew the z1 would be updated the z was the biggest shocker. I've just bought my z1 thinking my z would not be updated lol. Is there any news from cyanogenmod as when cm12 will be available
gavster26 said:
We all knew the z1 would be updated the z was the biggest shocker. I've just bought my z1 thinking my z would not be updated lol. Is there any news from cyanogenmod as when cm12 will be available
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Cm 12 will be released by the end of the year, and I think the same for PA and other custom roms (just my opinion)
For cm I saw this article here http://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/cyanogenmod-12-android-l-cm-12-203109/ (sorry is in Italian)
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Cm 12 will be released by the end of the year, and I think the same for PA and other custom roms (just my opinion)
For cm I saw this article here http://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/cyanogenmod-12-android-l-cm-12-203109/ (sorry is in Italian)
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CM was pretty plagued with bugs after they started Kitkat, even on the Nexus I had back then.
Sony will surely have a good rom much faster.
My only worries are: Xposed+ART is nogo, will rooting with locked BL be possible with all the new security stuff.
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CM was pretty plagued with bugs after they started Kitkat, even on the Nexus I had back then.
Sony will surely have a good rom much faster.
My only worries are: Xposed+ART is nogo, will rooting with locked BL be possible with all the new security stuff.
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Saw some articles on net: Android L is already rooted and the dev of xposed will release a new separate version that supports art
See more here: (sorry it's in italian)
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/10/...mi-commenti-rovo89-predicano-pazienza-253430/ (xposed)
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/android...e-il-root-per-android-lollipop-lpx13d-225117/ (Android 5.0 root)
Anyway yes we should wait official release from sony to see if it will be full rootable, but remember we have great devs here
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wow...wow...wow...wow
By the time it hits the Z1 the Xperia will likely have released
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I meant The Z5 sorry for the double post, I'm using the new xda one app and it doesn't allow editing of posts
"We’re bringing Android 5.0; Lollipop to the entire Xperia Z Series " SAID SONY today !!!
"You’ve probably seen Google unveil Android version 5.0; Lollipop…
Since the initial reveal of the Android “L” Developer Preview, we’ve seen lots of questions on our upgrade roadmap about our plans – so, here goes…
We’ll be making Sony Mobile’s Android “L” upgrade available for the entire premium Z series*: including Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1S, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Compact, Xperia Z2, Xperia Z2 Tablet, Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3v, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact. Sony Z Ultra Google Play edition devices will be first up – we’ll be back with more details on that soon.
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above.
We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our Z Series devices as we can, as quickly as we can. We’re really excited about the new Sony features & functionality and the improvements we’ve made to the user experience – and we’ll be sharing more soon… so stay tuned to the blog and @SonyMobileNews for all the latest and greatest.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability will vary by market/operator. Most models supported but some operator/market exceptions will apply"
i love you Sony ! they really supported this device fair enough ) #respect for them
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10/16/were-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
Didn't expected android L on our Z, good job Sony
Sony the best
Amazing work Sony!!! You're rock!
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Thank you SONY ?
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Yep. -MOD EDIT-
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I was as well With that done by them my next device will be Sony for sure
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Any news about galaxy s4 Android Lollipop?
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All hail Sony!
Awesome that we are still getting the update. :good:
The Z is one of the best supported devices by Sony. I was happy with this unbelievable phone for 18 month and just bought an Z3 as a support for Sony great work. Keep it up
If I'm happy? yes.
But too bad we gonna get it about a year after the official release, just like every Android update =\
Wow that is awesome sony is the best:good:
woohoo! thank you sony!
UnbredHalflingers said:
If I'm happy? yes.
But too bad we gonna get it about a year after the official release, just like every Android update =\
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Come on now, let's not be silly. :silly:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/19/whoa-android-4-4-4-factory-images-posted-as-build-kut84p/
4.4.4 released the 19th of June. We got it the beginning of September, well ahead of many other OEM's devices. Less than 3 months to bring up, produce, test, certify and release. Great going by Sony.
They could promise to support this device for the next 5 years and some people would still be negative.
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I'm actually shocked. Didn't expect another update whatsoever. Not that I'll probably make use of it due to my new upgrade in the new year but I'm happy that this phone is not being dropped
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Come on now, let's not be silly. :silly:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/19/whoa-android-4-4-4-factory-images-posted-as-build-kut84p/
4.4.4 released the 19th of June. We got it the beginning of September, well ahead of many other OEM's devices. Less than 3 months to bring up, produce, test, certify and release. Great going by Sony.
They could promise to support this device for the next 5 years and some people would still be negative.
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Agree with you. You deserve one Thanks..
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Just SONY
When can we expect the update for Xperia Z?
CyrilThomas92 said:
When can we expect the update for Xperia Z?
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Is it so hard for you to read the first post entirely?
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above.[/QUOTE said:
Beginning could be the first 3 months of next year and then you have to wait 2 or 3 months more , just like with 4.4.4.
So probably in half a year you will have Lollipop 5..0.
Anytime sooner will be better, leys just be happy we got 4.4.4 at all and that now the 5.0 is comming.
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Maybe like KitKat. We receive 4.4 on May
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How about UI?
Its really a great news indeed. Thankful to Sony for their continuous support to Z especially.
Google's Android 5.0 Lollipop is completely a new UI, well known as Material design. Sony and other OEMs will build their own Stock ROM and interface. Now my question is, which may be too early to ask but yet a thought came in.. Will they retain L's material design? or they going to continue with their UI.
Well time can answer, will wait and see!
If you guys could switch from z2 right now to any phone what would it be? Share
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There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
ghostofcain said:
There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty. There's nothing out there which remotely compares to this phone other than the Z3, and most of its advantages will likely be in the Z2 soon, too. And personally, I prefer the styling of the Z2 over the Z3.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty.
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Ha ha hadn't thought of that, a purple Z2 for me then
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Z3 compact
I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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Pretty much the same as everyone else.
I've only had my Z2 for a few weeks, but as far as I'm concerned, I don't want to swap for another phone, even a Z3.
Like some of the other guys, I prefer the styling of the Z2 and, thanks to Niaboc79's ROM, I have most of the Z3's bells and whistles anyway. HD Audio and a slimmer design just aren't enough of a reason to upgrade to a Z3 and there's nothing else out there that catches my eye.
For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
Think I would consider an LG G3
Jiyeon90 said:
I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
Id probably swap for a Z2 with a 4.4.4 FTF on the internal storage
In other words im happy with Z2
You will need to wait until March / April time for the next batch of phones. After how Sony treated the Z2 i do not think i will ever touch a sony phone again.
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For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Yes, @niaboc79's ROM is the single reason I have got a M8, REAL TALK!!!!!
Check out NUT's dual recovery for locked bootloaders, ist a combination of a stock kernel with a custom recovery.
There are threads in the Z2 forums that detail the process.
I have a unlocked bootloader, so I just smash & flash...
muhammadshais said:
That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
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It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Jiyeon90 said:
It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Is it the DSEE HX thing? If it is, according to the leak 4.4.4 rom, the Z2 will get it also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/rom-exr-sony-xperia-z24-4-423-0-1-0-t2907571
sofia-captivate said:
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Quite the opposite, it's just that the Z2 ticks all the boxes for me, but at a push the M8 or Nexus 6 would suffice.
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ldorbin said:
Think I would consider an LG G3
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I was all set and then I heard about the battery life.
3f1f37 said:
For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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sofia-captivate said:
Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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Creator of existenz rom
Very good dev, very good in coding
able to make 'well put together' and clean stock based custom roms
Many use of very serious post though
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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odie70 said:
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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I'm pretty sure we will get Android M through various different means, even if Sony doesn't do it.
Does this include the AOSP developer version or just official stable roms?
Official stable roms.
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Bad luck man,3 years is good time tho
You'll be happy with z5 mate
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I know that sony can definitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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I know that sony can difinitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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You're right, I think we deserve the android M from Sony
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
wmcdrugs said:
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Softw...e/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/...0-marshmallow/
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Both of those links are broken.
Fixed, thanks
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
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Yes, sony dev are suck i guess
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
No hating, but I suggest we all turn up the heat with Z1 getting 6.0. I mean look at the Z, it received updates up until 5.1.1, so it doesn't seem logical that the Z1 being a much newer and higher spec phone compared to the Z gets up to 5.1.1 only. We should get the 6.0 update. As for the Z, IMHO it's update until 5.1.1 is already a welcome farewell to the grandfather beast. Because of the Z, Sony has come along way.
Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Mostly because the updates where just all a mess except 4.4.4
But my mayor concern is if the Z5 sales fail - Sony will for sure sell their Xperia department this time ...
I was really keen to get a Z5, but considering the awesome specs of the Lumina 950 and 950XL, updates as you are used to get them on Windows I probably give it a try. Continuum is just to good to be true. Would the 950 be Waterresistant, no doubt at all to move...
Some people fighting for latest firmware. And there's people like me who still staying with Kit kat for stability and stuff.
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
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The core of the ROM is mainly from another device such as the Z2, but they're built against specific device configs. It's really not that complicated and it's something that Sony could easily support as it'd be no different to what they've already done with Lollipop.
The Nexus 5 is similar to the Z1 and that'll be receiving Marshmallow. Hell, the Z2 isn't all that different from the Z1 either. The only difficult part to deal with is the camera, but it's not like Sony can't get it done.
People should keep complaining and demanding the 6.0 update for the Z1 and then we might end up with an update, but if people sit quiet and don't even bother to ask about it then we'll be stuck on 5.1.1 unless you want to unlock your bootloader and install ROM's that will never be 100% stable.